Is is still happening mate - or has the issue cleared up now?

.

^ by Paul Shipper - from https://kyb3r.com/2019/05/peter-mayhew-by-paul-shipper/
 

pehache said:

oojason said:
Yes mate, it is bit of an old post. The ‘Why isn’t it easier to acquire Harmy’s Despecialized Editions?’ post from the ‘How do I do this?’ on the OriginalTrilogy.com - some info & answers to members’ queries thread, may be more useful?
 

Well, that’s not really the point, I fully understand the reasons why the files are not easily accessible.

My point is: the black market is generated by the difficulty to access the files (and somehow it can be an endless fight)

The black market would exist regardless even if there was a Despecialized website with a simple ‘download here’ link on it.

The black market existed before Despecialized for other projects, also exists for other easier-to-get projects, and will exist for future projects to come.

It’s unfortunate, nobody here likes it, yet that’s the way it has always been. From con hall stalls & dodgy video shops year ago, to modern dodgy websites selling projects, to ebay and other sites… and you’ll also find many of these scammers also sell other projects too.

oojason said:
Have you informed HanDuet there is an issue with for acquiring ESB? (When I receive PMs asking for help from members I’m surprised so few have actually contacted HanDuet to give him a heads-up that something has gone wrong and requires fixing or addressing).

In Section 10 of HanDuet’s superb guide:-

'If you find any errors, have feedback, or can think of ideas for improving this guide, please leave a comment on my Facebook page. I will also post on that page when a new version of this guide is published, so please “like” the page if you’d be informed of future updates:

https://www.facebook.com/HanDuet.SWDE/’

Again, not really my point. I know I will eventually find the files (actually it’s already the case). I am just wondering what can think a newcomer who is told “RTFM”, who does, and who nevertheless fails accessing the files…

I think it is the point - if there is an error with the Guide, or the Guide isn’t functioning as it should, then it’s best to let HanDuet know of it, for him to try and fix and address, yes? As it says in the Guide itself. And also so others don’t have the same frustrations and issues too.

Or that the person PMing for assistance hasn’t previously made a post asking in the relevant thread - or even read through the relevant threads - to see if the issue they are having has already been addressed.

There are tons of threads and posts here, with 2 consequences :

1. the newcomer can easily be lost without knowing where to start searching. I’m not a pure newcomer here, but still I often feel lost in the forum.
2. the newcomer can even think that the answer to his problem is indeed already somewhere in the threads, and won’t dare asking again

You probably knows where is every bit of the content of this forum, because you have been here for years.

And anyway, not everybody can read/write english easily…

You’re right - there are many, many threads on the Despecialized Editions within this site (along with other project and topic of conversation too).

Which is why there are there are Index Threads pinned at the top of most sections of the site listing the more relevant threads for projects and/or conversation of interest etc - including a section for the Despecialized Editions in the Index Thread of the Star Wars Preservation section - to help members find relevant information.

In the ‘General Assistance’ section, there is an easy to find thread with useful information on the Depecialized Edits too, titled 'Some info & help for Harmy’s Despecialized Editions of the Original Trilogy….

Also, in the ‘Help’ section pinned at the top of the site, there is also information on how/where to find the more relevant threads for the Despecialized Editions.
 

A little patience, some thought, and willingness to find and follow the guide (or Solkap’s guide - and others too) has resulted in thousands of people obtaining the Despecialized Editions over the years. Many of whom don’t speak English, or possess IT skills, or fancy/expensive equipment etc.

And for people who did struggle to acquire them… HanDuet, Harmy, Solkap, .Val, NJVC, and many, many others of the community here have kindly and generously helped people out over the years to acquire them, answer questions, come up with solutions or alternatives etc.

It isn’t a perfect system - but it’s the best we can do, and has worked for many people, over many years.

As once Jay said (I think), we could put a pinned thread with ‘Despecialized Editions - Info In Here’ on every part of this site - and we’d still get people making new threads asking where the Despecialized Editions are, how to get them, why isn’t it easier to get them, etc.
 

Candy Dulfer - Lily Was Here (live, from the Leverkusener Jazztage in 2009)…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nthf9n9IGPk

^ Beautiful sax and guitar playing in tandem.
 

How do I change my username on here…?

Changing your username on here can be quite a lengthy and arduous process for Jay (the administrator) to complete - it is NOT as easy or straightforward as simply deleting your username and entering a new one in its place. Jay has a countless list of things to do in maintaining the site - and also having a family, life, and job etc away from here - before getting down to name request changes… so any name change requests may take a while.

Changing a member’s username is not something that the moderation staff can do themselves.
 

If you do wish to change your username let Jay know by sending him a PM titled ‘username change request’ - along with a few choices of your new preferred username.

Please check that the username you wish to have is not already in use - along with a brief reason why you would like to change it.
 

If you are concerned that your current username contains personally identifiable information about yourself… let Jay know this information in your ‘username change request’ PM to him.
 

Thank you.
 

pehache said:

This is an old post now, but anyway…

oojason said:

ZigZig said:

1. The official sources are/were TehParadox (which is closed) and MySpleen (where invitations are not available anymore).
2. When a newbie asks “where can I get them” on this forum, the 2 ou 3 same guys always answer with jokes, or “read the first post” (which is outdated), or don’t answer at all, or forbid access to newbies (you must be a member for 6 months before getting the private links, which is quite justified and understandable, but can give the impression of a closed club).
3. If you want to learn more about how to get the Despecialized Editions, you have to read 161 pages of private jokes. And do not try to give your opinion or to answer to a post, you’ll receive “get out of here” or “ridiculous” for answer from some people who think that this forum is their playground, even though the vast majority of members are kind and caring.

On the other hand, if you pay on eBay, you receive a beautiful package with a box, inner sleeves and beautifully printed blurays.

I am obviously outraged that people get paid on eBay for the volunteer and free work of other people like Harmy, Poita, Adywan or DrDre. No one should claim $ 100 on eBay for Harmy’s work, it is not fair. And I’m happy to be a (young new) member of this forum, where I can learn a lot of things about SW, and share my passion with people who are, for the most part, extremely sympathetic.

But I understand why many people end up finding eBay easier than this particular forum …

 

You raise some good valid points ZigZig - and I appreciate your efforts in here to try and come up with a solution to these issues.

To try to answer some of your points - and in the interests of clarity for others reading up about this topic…

 

Harmy’s Dspecialised Editions are widely available on both public and private torrent sites - in many differing formats and sizes. That new posters state on here that they searched ‘high and low’ on the public torrent sites and still can’t find them is somewhat baffling. Also baffling are those that say they don’t know how to use torrent sites and then ask to join myspleen…
 

In Harmy’s first post in his Despecialised Edition thread on this site is the linked ‘The Ultimate Introductory Guide’ -
which chronicles how to obtain the DE.

Harmy also has a facebook page - chronicling how to obtain his Despecialised Editions - via ‘The Ultimate Introductory Guide’ linked on it.

And a twitter page too.

There is also a youtube video out there with ‘The Ultimate Introductory Guide’ linked in on how to obtain the DE.

I think (though am not certain) that the above video, with ‘The Ultimate Introductory Guide’ linked in, is available on other similar video sites too.
 

As a kind-of-newbie, I think that this is indeed difficult to access the files. The information about them on this forum is spread over multiple topics and over multiples posts in each topic, and even some headposts contain outdated information. The guide: I followed it today to get ESB, and just failed (I can see files for TLJ, not for ANH or ESB). Public torrent trackers: mmh, there you can find multiple versions, without knowing if they are the “official” ones or altered in any way (for instance I can see a 1080p version of Harmy’s ESB, but as far as I know his version is 720p, isn’t it ?). Private trackers: probably a better source, but you have to be a happy member… Anyway, using torrent trackers if you’re not a geek who knows how to use a VPN or a remote seedboox, can get you into legal troubles in many countries. The truth is, many people don’t have many options apart from buying the stuff on ebay.

Yes mate, it is bit of an old post. The ‘Why isn’t it easier to acquire Harmy’s Despecialized Editions?’ post from the ‘How do I do this?’ on the OriginalTrilogy.com - some info & answers to members’ queries thread, may be more useful?
 

Have you informed HanDuet there is an issue with for acquiring ESB? (When I receive PMs asking for help from members I’m surprised so few have actually contacted HanDuet to give him a heads-up that something has gone wrong and requires fixing or addressing).

In Section 10 of HanDuet’s superb guide:-

'If you find any errors, have feedback, or can think of ideas for improving this guide, please leave a comment on my Facebook page. I will also post on that page when a new version of this guide is published, so please “like” the page if you’d be informed of future updates:

https://www.facebook.com/HanDuet.SWDE/’
 

Or that the person PMing for assistance hasn’t previously made a post asking in the relevant thread - or even read through the relevant threads - to see if the issue they are having has already been addressed.

pehache said:

Darth Lucas said:
I don’t think anyone is blaming people who may not know any better who buy them. But the people taking this freely available labor of love thing and making a rather hefty profit off it is pretty despicable.

I definitely won’t stand up for these guys, I would be ashamed to do what they do. But if I was the devil’s advocate, I would point out that they give access to the GOUT to some people who don’t have other options in practice, and also that take a risk.

This is the usual story of prohibition: it generates a black market that is managed by the bad boys. The first level of prohibition is from GL himself, who retains the GOUT, and the second level is the difficulty to access the versions created by the fans.

As Darth Lucas stated above, Harmy is looking at ways to make them easier to access…
 

Just a couple of things to remember for those thinking of buying the Despeicalized Editions (or other Preservations and Fan Edits) from ebay or other scammers and sites…

‘I have found some online sites and listing selling fan projects from on here…’
 

^ The roller-coaster of emotions strikes again - what a game!
 

Liverpool vs Spurs in The Final on Saturday 1st June 😃

C’mon the RedMen 💥 (and for this weekend too, of course)
 

The Europa League Semi-Final games were quite entertaining too; an Arsenal vs Chelsea final!
 

Congratulations to Man City for winning the 2018/19 Premier League, after beating Brighton earlier today.
 

Star Wars SC 38 Reimagined…

www.youtube.com/watch?v=to2SMng4u1k - 6 minute video at the FXitinPost youtube channel

“Scene 38 ReImagined” is about the final confrontation between Ben Kenobi & Darth Vader in “A New Hope” nearly 20 years after the events of “Revenge Of The Sith.” This is a one-off story driven scene reflecting the characters in its chronological order from the point of Revenge of the Sith through Rebels, Rogue One, and all canon material leading to A New Hope.
 

😃

It was like schoolboy / amateur stuff - everyone switches off and turns their back on the play…
 

Loved the way Ajax has played this season - I don’t think they’ve received the full credit and respect for beating Real Madrid and Juventus that they deserve, especially in the manner they did. I hope they do well tomorrow vs Spurs - should be a cracking game too.
 

and c’mon Brighton for the weekend vs Man City 😉 Though Liverpool may have a few injuries and tiredness after from tonight’s exploits - and Wolves are a decent side playing good footy…
 

MalàStrana said:

Good luck to Reds fans. The season finale is gonna be epic.

Go Jürgen Go !

Thank you mate 😃
 

Man, I need to go have a lie down - though think I’ll be up all night after that 😃
 

Wow.

‘Lucasfilm unveils complete ‘The Rise Of Skywalker’ publishing program’:-

https://www.starwars.com/news/journey-to-star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker-publishing-program

^ with individual front cover images and details
 

^ a fan-made twist on the coming ‘Art of The Rise Of Skywalker’ book cover, which can be found here:-

https://www.starwars.com/news/journey-to-star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker-publishing-program
 

‘Mark Hamill, Harrison Ford, George Lucas and More Remember Peter Mayhew’…

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/hollywood-stars-pay-tribute-peter-mayhew-1207124
 

‘Harrison Ford Remembers ‘Star Wars’ Co-Star Peter Mayhew: “I Loved Him”’…

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/harrison-ford-remembers-star-wars-star-peter-mayhew-i-loved-him-1207164
 

‘The family of Peter Mayhew, with deep love and sadness, regrets to share the news that Peter has passed away. He left us the evening of April 30, 2019 with his family by his side in his North Texas home.’ - https://twitter.com/TheWookieeRoars/status/1124077256240967681
 

A modern ‘X-Wing vs Tie Fighter’ would be great.

Jet Set Willy 4 for the Commodore 64… (none of that JSW3 rubbish on the Amiga) 😉
 

The kind of walls we need to be building - and maintaining…

^ from https://imgur.com/gallery/xygzO6I
 

Mocata said:

This is a lot of stuff. It should be posted somewhere more prominently, or even turned into a video series.

Aye mate - a documentary style video of it (or maybe a powerpoint style presentation - a la the Rebel Command briefing the Rebel pilots for the Death Star attack in '77 😉) would be great - as are some of the suggestions made with in this linked thread, and probably more effective than the ‘wall of text’ that this turned into! 😃

I certainly don’t have the skills needed for anything like that - though people are most welcome to give it a go…

‘Descend into the depths of Darth Vader’s Mustafar fortress when #VaderImmortal: A #StarWars VR Series launches on #OculusQuest May 21.’ - https://twitter.com/ILMxLAB/status/1123290951839932416 & https://www.oculus.com/experiences/quest/2108775495884888/ (with video)

www.ilmxlab.com : www.facebook.com/ILMxLAB : https://twitter.com/ilmxlab : www.instagram.com/ilmxlab

£7.99 for the game ($10US); not bad at all (okay, the equipment is somewhat expensive, yet a great price for the game itself)

A couple of reviews for ‘Vader Immortal - Episode 1’ from the Star Wars Explained youtube channel (contains spoilers)…

Vader Immortal Episode 1 - Gameplay, Summary, and Review (Spoilers)

30 Facts from Vader Immortal Episode 1 - Easter Eggs, References, Legends Connections, and More!
 

Vader Immortal – Episode I’ Review: A Strong Start for Canonical ‘Star Wars’ VR (article from Collider on the VR series game)

& Review: Vader Immortal: A Star Wars VR Series – Episode 1 (from the VR Focus website)

& VR alters the deal; I pray it alters it further (review article from IGN)
 

^ No worries mate 😃
 

I don’t trust stairs - they’re always up to something…

 
original full size and quality video here - https://imgur.com/gallery/NbdSRQn

Cool idea for a thread Peter Pan 😃
 

adywan has fix lists for each of his Revisited Edition Edits - which may be of some interest for inclusion in this thread…

Star Wars: Revisited : Empire Strikes Back: Revisited : Return Of The Jedi: Revisited
 

There are also a few threads in the ‘General Star Wars Discussion threads…’ section of the An Index Thread for General Star Wars Discussion which may of use too.

Good luck with it.
 

Just a quick reminder that all you guys and gals can edit your own thread titles if you wish.

Go to the first post, scroll down to the end of the post, and click on the light blue ‘Edit’ button - where you can enter text in the ‘Topic title’ section.
 

Or ask a mod to do it 😃
 

^ from https://milnersblog.com/2019/04/18/star-wars-the-mandalorian-official-hi-res-images-logos/