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#1667612
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⭐ Star Wars' <strong>50th anniversary</strong> in 2027 ⭐ | Your hopes and expectations <em>(if any)</em>...
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Broom Kid said:

It’s been a locked room for almost 20 years now, and the people who got locked in all those decades ago frequently don’t know how to act anymore, LOL. If they ever did, considering when it was that the doors got nailed shut.

Surely it is more like 10 years? Are we now that old? (Don’t answer that!)… 😉

 

That guy with no name said:

Broom Kid said:

It’s been a locked room for almost 20 years now, and the people who got locked in all those decades ago frequently don’t know how to act anymore, LOL. If they ever did, considering when it was that the doors got nailed shut.

What was the reason they closed up shop again?

An answer can be found in the MySpleen post of ❕ ‘How do I do this?’ on the OriginalTrilogy.com; some info & answers + member FAQs ❕

^ Sadly, IMHO, it is becoming an all-to-familiar story on here in recent times as well.

 

JF_Sanderson said:

Why is sandstorm still b&w? Because they don’t want to (or can’t) track down uncut negative and conform it to dailies edit?

I’m not sure mate - though this is all a ‘Work In Progress’ project. Some scenes and shots simply may have been uploaded on more of a stage-by-stage process before they are ‘final’? Maybe, hopefully, we’ll see uploads of more complete / final shots later. 👍
 

digitalfreaknyc said:

oojason said:

NEW SCREENSHOT COMPARISON - AND A NEW VIDEO CLIP - FROM STAR WARS

 

 

For these comparisons: the folks over at blu-ray.com are complaining that the source of the 4k is not lossless. Whoever is making them, can you please use the original disc - if you’re not?

The folks (or rather the same few vocal naysayers) at blu-ray.com are once again incorrect - and way off the mark.

The source of the 4K UHD image screenshot comparisons are the official 4K UHD discs.
 

The actual reason is a recent (mid-October-ish) compression issue with the platform from which these images comparison shots are originally being shared on that was the problem. The platform understandably has size limits and quotas for what they could host / share… and since mid-October_(-ish)_ have compressed the images uploaded there since - which was unbeknownst to us - until we found out last night.

So when I saved the images from there and then reuploaded them to Imgur (as to not use the platform’s limited bandwidth or be traced back to source etc)… I was inadvertently saving compressed images. For unknowingly doing that I apologise.

However, this recent compression change would have affected all the screenshot comparisons images taken from there; for the ALI, the UHD, the 2011 blu ray, and the 4K77/80/83 images used - NOT just the UHD - which is the apparent focus of their attention.

So such recent claims from blu-ray.com as…

‘…we have been collectively misled to perceive that the UHD BR transfers as are far inferior than they truly are.’

‘The fact that the uploader(s) have not publicly acknowledged and corrected the record with these demonstrably inaccurate images nor clarified weeks ago these comparisons were wrong, raises a whole host of concerns and questions.’

and…

‘…and now the clearly fuzzed UHD caps blatantly putting the thumb on the scale in the leaks’ favour.’

‘…they have done a disservice to themselves and the SW community by uploading images from the official UHD BR transfers which are demonstrably inaccurate to the source and creates false disparity when comparing them to the ALI images.’

…are not only woefully incorrect - but are also without merit.
 

Much like many of the previously incorrect claims and assertions made on there (though latterly acknowledged as being false / mistaken)… they also form part of the reason why I personally choose to try and avoid such small minorities of vocal naysayers who are both quick to jump to conclusions and make accusatory remarks without even a cursory look at the wider picture (a bizarre ‘shoot first - ask questions later’ rinse n’ repeat approach).

Instead, they could have simply reached out on here with any queries or issues - instead they chose not to - and we are treated to yet more of the above. So, my apologies digitalfreaknyc, yet I hope you understand that is why I won’t be commenting on / replying to anything coming from there in the future. Life is just too short. Others can do as they wish, of course. 👍
 

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#1667489
Topic
Star Wars Insider - R.I.P.
Time

Star Wars Insider to Launch Final Issue in 2026

The magazine, most recently produced by Titan Publishing Group, will cap its run with 237 issues in print.

www.starwars.com/news/star-wars-insider
 

 
'After more than 200 issues, Star Wars Insider will end its current run in 2026.

The official Star Wars magazine first launched under the Insider moniker in 1994, part of an evolution that began with the Lucasfilm Fan Club Magazine.

But the earliest incarnation of the idea began in 1978 with the start of the Official Star Wars Fan Club. A newsletter in the membership kit was renamed Bantha Tracks after a contest in issue #2, and would mark its final edition in March of 1987 with issue #35 covering the new Star Tours ride.

The first glossy Lucasfilm Fan Club magazine debuted in the fall that same year, featuring C-3PO and R2-D2 on the cover with a cake decorated with 10 candles to mark the 10th anniversary of Star Wars: A New Hope as well as Lucasfilm’s expansion into new stories beyond the galaxy far, far away.

Growing interest in Star Wars just seven short years later spurred the new name, Star Wars Insider, which debuted with the widely coveted “premier issue” #23 in 1994. During its lifetime, the logo would be redesigned, the license would change hands, and many editors and writers would bring their love for Star Wars to those printed pages.

“Insider has been a big part of my Star Wars experience for a very long time, both as a fan and professionally,” editor Christopher Cooper tells StarWars.com. "It’s been an honor to explore the galaxy far, far away with our readers during my eight year tenure. But publishing has changed immeasurably since the Lucasfilm Fan Club magazine, and we live in an increasingly digital age, which sadly means that this chapter in Star Wars Insider’s history is coming to an end.”

“I certainly share Christopher’s sentiments. Having served as editor-in-chief of Insider during the lead up to Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith in 2004 and 2005, and then to edit the magazine for the past 9 years for Lucasfilm Publishing has been the greatest privilege of my life,” adds senior editor Brett Rector. “To say the magazine occupies a huge place in my heart is an understatement.”

Star Wars Insider issue #237 will be the magazine’s last with Titan. “As we fly off into the twin sunsets, Titan intends to go out in a blaze of glory,” Cooper adds.

The next issue, #235, a celebration of the 10th anniversary of Star Wars: The Force Awakens, will arrive on newsstands December 9, 2025. There will also be printings of the hardcover and trade paperback collections of short fiction, Star Wars: The High Republic Volume 3, a slipcase set of all three High Republic short story volumes, and a special edition celebrating the 10th anniversary of Rogue One: A Star Wars Story next year.

The final two issues of Star Wars Insider will be released in early 2026. Back issues will be available while supplies last.’

 

For me, this has notably dwindled in quality since 2001/02 - which is when it became full of Special Edition content and retconning official history and contradicting their own previous articles and content… together with a more ‘corporate’ / ‘run by the Empire’ feel to it. Certainly lacking in the fun tongue-in-cheek humour it once had at times. I’m a little surprised they kept the SW Insider magazine going for so long. The 40th anniversary edition was a pisstake / FU to many of us older / OOT fans.
 

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#1667480
Topic
⭐ Star Wars' <strong>50th anniversary</strong> in 2027 ⭐ | Your hopes and expectations <em>(if any)</em>...
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NEW SCREENSHOT COMPARISON - AND A NEW VIDEO CLIP - FROM STAR WARS

 

ALI…

 
UHD…

 
2011 blu ray…

 
4K77…

 

a streamable video clip of the above scene: https://streamable.com/2y8wqm

 
 


 
 

 
A Mini-Index for info on the ALI OOT Restoration Leaks…

An Introduction / Overview
Image Screenshots & Comparisons
Video Clips
Media Coverage & Content
FAQs
News & Updates (tba; for when we hopefully get an official announcement on the ALI OOT restoration for the 50th anniversary)

 

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#1667476
Topic
Random Musings about the Empire Strikes Back Draft Script
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Tosche Station said:

Hi all, I thought you’d all find this interesting:

Gary Kurtz:
“When we made Star Wars, Vader and Anakin were two separate people. The idea that Vader was Luke’s father didn’t exist. I remember Lucas talked about Anakin having killed Vader and then taking his identity, but that was dropped early on. The whole twist in Empire was new and unexpected.”

Star Wars Insider #138, 2011

So @Barfolomew and @Channel72 were basically right. The paradigm of the Brackett draft of ESB was factually correct as it goes, but also wasn’t telling the whole story: Lucas indeed had an earlier version of the twist when they were making the first film, no less, but it was ultimately dropped. Lucas then came up with the ‘Vader killed Luke’s father’ story for the final script (the Revised fourth draft), and this is what went into film. This notion was still in place
when they started work on Empire. When it came to the second draft (by Lucas alone), Lucas re-worked his earlier dropped idea, and merged the Vader and Annikin(Anakin)Luke’s father characters, and the rest is history.

 
Just for the record…

 
Unfortunately the above quote found online by TS (via a ‘google search’) does NOT exist in ‘Star Wars Insider #138, 2011’.

Both TS and myself have had a thorough look through Issue #138 of SW Insider (which is actually the issue for January 2013 - and NOT 2011) - and there is no quote or mention of Gary Kurtz in that issue.

I’ve had a look through adjoining issues, the 2011 issues - other publications similar to SW Insider at the time, also online in general - and cannot find such a quote from Gary Kurtz. TS has also searched for the quote and cannot find a source for it either.

It does NOT look like the quote is actually from Gary Kurtz - or exists outside of what TS found in that google search.
 

If anyone does know of this quote - and where is originates from - please post it up in here. Thanks, as always. 👍

 

After a fair bit of searching for this elusive quote attributed to Gary Kurtz I can only conclude it is indeed a fake.

Kurtz made no such statement - certainly not in ‘Star Wars Insider #138, 2011’ - with people now seemingly trying to invent or misattribute online quotes for Gary Kurtz to try and re-write film history.
 

 
With much egg on my face if it the supposed quote from Gary Kurtz does turn up eventually somewhere else. 😉
 

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#1667442
Topic
STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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I loved it; starfields again! Blue skies & whiter clouds, R2’s circular eye turning blue-to red and back (and his rear circular eye being a brighter green), Threepio now facing the altered trajectory of the ‘Crawler, the overall colouring making the droids featured pop (and Threepio’s sliver leg appears more pronounced, too). The two planets in the background at night, Jawas’ brighter eyes, the Crawler’s ramp and surrounding lighting - for the distance shot, and the blue inner door of the escape pod for the ‘Look, sir. Droids!’. (plus whatever else I missed).

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#1667376
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George was telling the truth about the Father Vader twist going back to ANH, but so was Kurtz:
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Tosche Station said:

oojason said:

Tosche Station said:

Basically, the Gary Kurtz quote shows that I was wrong. Lucas did NOT merge Vader and Anakin until Empire (ESB), and it was with Empire, not Jedi (ROTJ) that he did this. The earlier ‘father Vader twist’ idea that Lucas had during the writing stage/pre-production of SW (ANH) was dropped before the final version of the script was done.

Fair play to you, TS. Not many would admit that. 👍

 

Tosche Station said:

Gary Kurtz: “When we made Star Wars, Vader and Anakin were two separate people. The idea that Vader was Luke’s father didn’t exist. I remember Lucas talked about Anakin having killed Vader and then taking his identity, but that was dropped early on. The whole twist in Empire was new and unexpected.”

Star Wars Insider #138, 2011

 
Unfortunately the above quote found online by TS (via a ‘google search’) does NOT exist in ‘Star Wars Insider #138, 2011’.

Both TS and myself have had a thorough look through Issue #138 of SW Insider (which is actually the issue for January 2013 - and NOT 2011) - and there is no quote or mention of Gary Kurtz in that issue.

I’ve had a look through adjoining issues, the 2011 issues - also online in general - and cannot find such a quote from Gary Kurtz.

It does NOT look like the quote is actually from Gary Kurtz - or exists outside of what TS found in that google search.
 

If anyone does know of this quote - and where is originates from - please post it up in here. Thanks, as always. 👍

 

September Edit: as confirmed by Tosche Station - the above quote attributed to Gary Kurtz is indeed a fake.

Kurtz made no such statement - with people now trying to invent online quotes for Gary Kurtz to try and re-write film history.
 

 
 


 
 

For anyone interested in when Vader was retconned to become Luke’s father… these may be of interest for further info:-

(from multiple sources - mainly consistent and confirmed - including from Lucasfilm high-ups, Marcia Lucas, & JW Rinzler etc)
 

Category #5 of George Lucas: Star Wars Creator, Unreliable Narrator & Time Travelling Revisionist…

• Emre’s two ‘info & image’ posts on the subject here: link & link - citing JW Rinzler and earlier drafts of scripts.

• The 2019 ‘Star Wars Mythbusting’ twitter thread by Lucasfilm Creative Arts Manager Phil Szostak

• and the Marcia Lucas interview in ‘Icons Uncovered’ documentary where she talks about how and when George retconned Vader to be Luke’s father - whilst writing the 2nd draft of Empire Strikes Back (GL, Marcia, Huyk & Katz were all having dinner).
 

Hi, oojason. I actually didn’t confirm that, per our discussions. I said that it would be ironic if the only known quote from Kurtz contradicting that Vader was Luke’s father when STAR WARS was made turned out to not be genuine.

Ah, it appears you hadn’t quite finished editing your post reply in PMs to me - as it has changed since; hence my PM reply to you in there re it ‘turning out not to be a real one from Gary Kurtz’ at the time.

Yet still no luck finding the elusive Kurtz quote that does not seem to exist outside of a google search link? PM me if you’ve had any fortune locating it.

The Marcia Lucas Katz/Huyck thing doesn’t track at all with any contemporaneous statements from back in the early 1980’s. Had it actually happened, I doubt that biographer Dale Pollock (“Skywalking” 1983) would have failed to notice it. Though I suppose that Huyck ‘joke’ inspiring the twist could sort of serve as a provisional band-aid for those who find the just-so theory that Lucas would have come up with the twist all on his own in 1978 while writing EMPIRE, but fail to come up with it in 1975 when writing STAR WARS, to be on the very low-end of the probability scale.

Really? I thought it tracked with events quite well and also fits the timeline of George working on Empire - whilst having no reason to doubt Marcia in her own words outlining how it came all about. You did get around to watching Icons Uncovered? Hopefully it also cleared up your doubts on the issues surrounding the timeline of Gary Kurtz’ departure from Lucasfilm as per Howard Kazanjian lifting the veil on that particular situation. I must get around to giving the book a read, apparently there is much more intriguing information (in general) in there.
 

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#1667325
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⭐ Star Wars' <strong>50th anniversary</strong> in 2027 ⭐ | Your hopes and expectations <em>(if any)</em>...
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CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Do we really think George cares? He did in fact release the OUT on disc, just lazily and cheaply. And he has approved screenings of OUT prints. I think it’s more he never wanted to spend the millions to restore them, given they’re not his preferred version. If someone else spends the money, which Disney appears to be, I doubt he’d care so long as his preferred versions also remain available.

Very much this. 👍

With just one exception (emboldened for emphasis above)

…it would only have cost George the price of making a duplicate negative - which he refused to do - prior to splicing the original negatives to make the 1997 Special Editions; as per Lucasfilm employees’ statements directly involved with the process at the time. Also, George’s claim of it ‘costing millions’ is, like many of his other claims over the years, disingenuous to say the least.

Even afterwards, such a restoration of the original cuts could have cost somewhere in the region of $100,000 - as of ~2018…

 
From the Some of George Lucas’ gaslighting & divisive comments made to/about fans over time… thread:-

15. “I’m not going to spend the, we’re talking millions of dollars here, the money and the time to refurbish that…” - George Lucas’ incorrect and disingenuous claim.

^ A screenshot from the 2004 ‘Lucas talks as ‘Star Wars’ trilogy returns’ article on the 2004SE DVDs at Today•com
 

Firstly, it is worth highlighting that George Lucas refused to have a duplicate scan made of the unaltered theatrical cut for the Original Trilogy before altering the original negatives for the 1997 Special Editions (a project paid for in its entirety by 20th Century Fox). Something that “could be easily done” according to the Lucasfilm employees working on the actual project…

^ An abridged screenshot (edited for length) from Lucasfilm department director Bill Kimberlin’s 2018 book - ‘Inside The Star Wars Empire’, from ‘The Distraction’ chapter, starting on Page 194.

 

Respected professionals in the film preservation industry, as of 2018, put the figure at US $100,000 or so to cover the cost of a professional restoration of the Original Trilogy films; ‘to 4K and do it right’.

 

^ A screenshot of From Interpositives to Separation Masters: How Film Preservation Works - at the ‘Save Star Wars’ website (in 2010); with an list of possible options and costs open to Lucasfilm.

 

^ A screenshot of Frequently Asked Questions: ‘4 - Restoring or presenting the original versions in high quality is very expensive isn’t it? Lucas does not have the money or desire to do so.’ - at the ‘Save Star Wars’ website (in 2010); with a couple of restoration and pricing options.

 

^ A screenshot of Saving Star Wars: The Special Edition Restoration Process and its Changing Physicality - at The Secret History of Star Wars book website (in 2009).

 

^ A screenshot from ‘Could Disney finally give us the remastered, unedited Star Wars we want?’ - article at the ARS Technica website (in 2017); with a price option of ‘under a million dollars’.

 

And finally… the cost of a preservation / restoration release by the fans…
 

This screenshot taken from The Star Wars Trilogy’s 4K77, 4K80 & 4K83 Projects in July 2019, details some of the outlay involved for their respective project at being ‘a little over $16,000’ (no labour costs or profits made - just fans working on the project outside their regular jobs in their spare time):-

 

Note: Even in 2006, the esteemed Robert Harris - the man who had hand-restored ‘Vertigo’, ‘Lawrence of Arabia’, and ‘The Godfather’ - is on record saying he knows there are pristine 35mm elements of the Original Trilogy available for use, and offered his services to restore the film - Lucasfilm did not respond to his offer…

^ A screenshot of Saving Star Wars: The Special Edition Restoration Process and its Changing Physicality - at The Secret History of Star Wars book website (in 2009). A screenshot of Robert Harris quote, via The Digital Bits website, can be found here.

 
Obviously, the work undertaken for the ALI OOT Restoration… given the levels of quality and scope (the new 6K scan in 2022, the attention to detail, the processes undertaken, and assembly of various sources etc) involved… may well likely cost significantly more.
 

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#1667130
Topic
❕ An <strong>Index</strong> + <strong>'Info &amp; Help'</strong> Thread for... <strong><em>Original Trilogy Discussion</em></strong> ❕
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Info Posts’ in this thread on the leaked ALI OOT RestorationAn Introduction / Overview | Image Screenshots & Comparisons | Video Clips from the ALI Restoration youtube channel | Media Coverage and Content on the ALI Restoration & Leaks | FAQs.
 

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#1666948
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<strong>Star Wars: Visions</strong> (animated short films) - a general discussion thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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Finally finished watching all of the Volume III episodes - only watched a couple of episodes a day to not burn out on them…
 

Overall, this was another hit of a season for me. Only a couple of episodes didn’t really resonate - though am sure others will love them, and will certainly be willing to give them another watch over time.

Highlights were The Duel: Payback, Child of Hope (as a ‘backdoor pilot’ for the coming ‘The Ninth Jedi’ spin-off series), The Lost Ones, Yuko’s Treasure, The Song of Four Wings, and Black. I really hope we get to see F in more stores in the future - a most intriguing character.

Great to see Visions back with its bold, stylistic, symbolic, mythic takes on the GFFA - whilst often being simultaneously breathless and beautiful… and also fun (with some truly ‘out there’ moments also in the mix). With some stunning visuals and art direction too.

I do hope they reach out to Genndy Tartakovsky to see if he can do an episode in the next series. As others have requested online… it’d be great too some High Republic era, and old EU stories, told in this format (or as a spinoff series in its own right).
 

a 5 minute spoiler-free ‘Volume III review’ from Star Wars Explained: www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqKV2eIa8Wc
 

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#1666903
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Anyone else totally disregard Leia being Luke's sister?
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JadedSkywalker said:

I was referring to how Obi-Wan did not lie in Star Wars because Darth Vader killed Luke’s father. A young Jedi named Darth Vader who was a pupil of mine before he turned to evil. Helped the Empire hunt down and destroy the Jedi Knights, he betrayed and murdered your father.

Now it’s just Kenobi lies all the time. Certain point of view. OH I Never owned a droid, and Yoda was my master wink wink. Except for this guy Gui-Gon. In the prequel he has r4. He does own a droid.

And Anakin never said a thing about wanting his kid to have that Lightsaber he did not even know about Luke’s existence. He knew he a child by Padme that died with her in childbirth. Not Twins.

Yeah, poor Obi-Wan really did get a rough ride through Lucas’ latterly constructed retcons, alterations, inconsistencies, as well as jarring issues with the other later films (and notably the PT movies). For me, to the point where Obi-Wan became a surrogate / proxy as an ‘unreliable narrator’ to cover for Lucas’ later discrepancies and own renowned ‘unreliable narration’.
 

Tosche Station said:

OutboundFlight said:

Had ROTJ stuck to its guns with the original script, either Han’s death or Luke walking away to focus on the Jedi would have made a far stronger conclusion to the triangle.

There’s no evidence of this ‘original script’ existing, other than as deliberate obfuscation cooked-up during EMPIRE to throw the public off-track in regards to where the story was ultimately heading.

Gary Kurtz himself, re ROTJ: '“We had an outline and George changed everything in it,’ Kurtz said. “Instead of bittersweet and poignant he wanted a euphoric ending with everybody happy. The original idea was that they would recover [the kidnapped] Han Solo in the early part of the story and that he would then die in the middle part of the film in a raid on an Imperial base. George then decided he didn’t want any of the principals killed. By that time there were really big toy sales and that was a reason.”

The discussed ending of the film that Kurtz favored presented the rebel forces in tatters, Leia grappling with her new duties as queen and Luke walking off alone “like Clint Eastwood in the spaghetti westerns,” as Kurtz put it. Kurtz said that ending would have been a more emotionally nuanced finale to an epic adventure than the forest celebration of the Ewoks that essentially ended the trilogy with a teddy bear luau.’
 

^ Sources - with more information and quotes from Gary Kurtz on ROTJ and that early era of the Star Wars Universe, etc…

www.theguardian.com/film/filmblog/2010/aug/13/return-jedi-alternative-film-endings
www.latimes.com/archives/blogs/hero-complex-blog/story/2010-08-12/did-star-wars-become-a-toy-story-producer-gary-kurtz-looks-back
https://asitecalledfred.com/2010/08/12/gary-kurtz-interview/7/ (in full; across 9 pages of the site)
Gary Kurtz on Return of the Jedi - 4+ minute youtube video interview with Gary Kurtz. From the gordongecko1975 channel.
 

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#1666834
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<strong>Star Wars: Visions Presents - The Ninth Jedi</strong> <em>(animated series)</em> - a general discussion
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I really enjoyed the Visions: Volume III episode: ‘The Ninth Jedi - Child of Hope’; a quality episode in itself - yet also set up and left me wanting more…

Thankfully we’ll only have to wait until 2026 to see this new spin-off series featuring Kara and crew in her quest to find her father. (I got some ‘Ulysses 31’ vibes watching Child Of Hope - I hope that continues into the coming series) 👍
 

https://x.com/starwars/status/1984327193867264298
 

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#1666798
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⭐ Star Wars' <strong>50th anniversary</strong> in 2027 ⭐ | Your hopes and expectations <em>(if any)</em>...
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SonnyGFunk said:

Fruit672 said:

Wait?! for the ROTJ vimeo clip, its of the deleted sand storm scene… Are they restoring the deleted SCENES!? Sorry not in the whole loop so idk everything. But OMG! omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg OMG!!! Hopefully they restore and release the scenes that haven’t been shown yet as well like the extended sailbarge sequence.

There was also a Vimeo clip from the SW deleted scene of Luke working on the moisture vaporator. Alas, we only managed a screenshot and not a download.

 
2011 blu ray…

 
ALI…

👍

 
 


 
 

 
A Mini-Index for info on the ALI OOT Restoration Leaks…

An Introduction / Overview
Image Screenshots & Comparisons
Video Clips
Media Coverage & Content
FAQs
News & Updates (tba; for when we hopefully get an official announcement on the ALI OOT restoration for the 50th anniversary)

 

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#1666776
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⭐ Star Wars' <strong>50th anniversary</strong> in 2027 ⭐ | Your hopes and expectations <em>(if any)</em>...
Time

Fruit672 said:

oojason said:

 

A few Original Trilogy video clips captured from the ALI youtube channel…

 

(The video clips below have been uploaded to a free streamable account - so are only available in 720p - and only up for 90 days)

 

 

 

1️⃣ Star Wars

 

https://streamable.com/bixil9 : pre-SE visual
https://streamable.com/rw0rww
https://streamable.com/faojoa
https://streamable.com/jz40u0 : pre-SE visual
https://streamable.com/i3206h
https://streamable.com/tih6ly
https://streamable.com/1ftsfx
https://streamable.com/vlbkm7
https://streamable.com/x1gjyg : pre-SE visual
https://streamable.com/mjzh5m : full sequence
https://streamable.com/nf3fgh
https://streamable.com/8xxg9h : Raw OCN
https://streamable.com/10j48m : Raw OCN
https://streamable.com/p1kf96
https://streamable.com/z0e32p
https://streamable.com/e1degt
https://streamable.com/kprc5v
https://streamable.com/66fumo
https://streamable.com/493dxl
https://streamable.com/j9190t
https://streamable.com/jqrqtt : pre-SE visual
https://streamable.com/4h8vsp : pre-SE visual
https://streamable.com/ma710m
https://streamable.com/h6l2s3
https://streamable.com/cjn4h7 : pre-SE visual
https://streamable.com/xlll97
https://streamable.com/o156d9
https://streamable.com/seus30
https://streamable.com/whzbf9
https://streamable.com/zjrbas
https://streamable.com/gx0eyr
https://streamable.com/pl18qv : pre-SE visual
https://streamable.com/hek9xl : pre-SE visual
https://streamable.com/33gs3p
https://streamable.com/xi6ila
https://streamable.com/elr3og : pre-SE visual
https://streamable.com/vds0mg : pre-SE visual
https://streamable.com/cxtuez : pre-SE visual
https://streamable.com/7z3knm
https://streamable.com/5gx9mq : pre-SE visual
https://streamable.com/50s3rv
https://streamable.com/kai27z
https://streamable.com/9259wf
https://streamable.com/roflfo
https://streamable.com/rd1a1o
https://streamable.com/toxwb8
https://streamable.com/ny248v
https://streamable.com/556bk2 : pre-SE visual
https://streamable.com/87cyvp
https://streamable.com/xm5qhv : pre-SE visual
https://streamable.com/qxnl4h
https://streamable.com/98vcv8
https://streamable.com/tylli2
https://streamable.com/c8mbqd : pre-SE visual
https://streamable.com/49b1ux
https://streamable.com/pvz5z4 : pre-SE visual
https://streamable.com/v7qugd
https://streamable.com/1om88k
https://streamable.com/9m23ir
https://streamable.com/rngfi0 : pre-SE visual
https://streamable.com/1349kq
https://streamable.com/yvwa9o : pre-SE visual
https://streamable.com/s1dkz0 : pre-SE visual
https://streamable.com/f64upo
https://streamable.com/47jpxt
https://streamable.com/n9yc8g
https://streamable.com/s7krth : pre-SE visual
https://streamable.com/62zqmb
https://streamable.com/rbdv0j : pre-SE visual
https://streamable.com/nf3fgh : full sequence
https://streamable.com/qqydrw
https://streamable.com/zgon1n
https://streamable.com/ggatye
https://streamable.com/5ujh3d

 

• ALI Vimeo clips: Star Wars…

 

https://streamable.com/hg584y
https://streamable.com/j5nzac
https://streamable.com/7cm68t

 

 

2️⃣ # Empire Strikes Back

 

https://streamable.com/hmfq8s
https://streamable.com/0714z3
https://streamable.com/unx03a
https://streamable.com/ca2kgx
https://streamable.com/s3x213
https://streamable.com/yhhvpc
https://streamable.com/ylmcrl
https://streamable.com/oou8cp
https://streamable.com/29i7kj
https://streamable.com/irceen
https://streamable.com/en986l
https://streamable.com/p90822
https://streamable.com/qxm4xl
https://streamable.com/gov6h5
https://streamable.com/c6hiq8
https://streamable.com/372lm9
https://streamable.com/9nubhl
https://streamable.com/tixabj
https://streamable.com/lk5rb2
https://streamable.com/qqgkd1
https://streamable.com/8565mv
https://streamable.com/lbzlvi : pre-SE visual
https://streamable.com/g75z55
https://streamable.com/r4s9bk
https://streamable.com/68qn49
https://streamable.com/ndawco
https://streamable.com/2cowu7
https://streamable.com/sswbzf
https://streamable.com/m89pq5
https://streamable.com/0mmegd
https://streamable.com/tmigzm
https://streamable.com/22s74j
https://streamable.com/zm6qa2
https://streamable.com/oodqs5
https://streamable.com/bvnrwm
https://streamable.com/1jgmk1
https://streamable.com/30bfaq
https://streamable.com/eu2ytr
https://streamable.com/as8gfp
https://streamable.com/oazz4w : pre-SE visual
https://streamable.com/hkest7

 

• ALI Vimeo clips: Empire Strikes Back…

 

https://streamable.com/89jnv1
https://streamable.com/6b96hr

 

 

3️⃣ Return Of The Jedi

 

https://streamable.com/r5ox4r : pre-SE visual
https://streamable.com/glxirw : pre-SE visual
https://streamable.com/aac2dl : pre-SE visual
https://streamable.com/ainil1 : pre-SE visual
https://streamable.com/22nada
https://streamable.com/mnvgzf
https://streamable.com/ianoy6
https://streamable.com/v6yxlg
https://streamable.com/dfdp0v : pre-SE visual
https://streamable.com/x2bpc3
https://streamable.com/q1txlq

 

• ALI Vimeo clips: Return Of The Jedi…

 

https://streamable.com/yti3y3

 
 

^ Posted with the kind permission of ‘Member X’ - and all credit and kudos to them. 👍
 

Last Updated: Saturday 1st November, 2025. https://streamable.com/5ujh3d (Star Wars)

 

Similar to the Screenshot Comparison Images - these video clips may not be ‘final cuts’ - this project is a ‘Work In Progress’.

 
Edit: Denoted which videos feature ‘pre-SE visuals’ - as per timdiggerm’s suggestion and work in one of the posts below, here. Plus also included further suggestions from SonnyGFunk. Thank you, both. 👍

 
 


 
 

 
A Mini-Index for info on the ALI OOT Restoration Leaks…

An Introduction / Overview
Image Screenshots & Comparisons
Video Clips
Media Coverage & Content
FAQs
News & Updates (tba; for when we hopefully get an official announcement on the ALI OOT restoration for the 50th anniversary)

 

Wait?! for the ROTJ vimeo clip, its of the deleted sand storm scene… Are they restoring the deleted SCENES!? Sorry not in the whole loop so idk everything. But OMG! omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg OMG!!! Hopefully they restore and release the scenes that haven’t been shown yet as well like the extended sailbarge sequence.

Aye, Vimeo is being used by ALI to host some restoration work for ‘deleted scenes’ & ‘raw elements’ type of content from the OOT.

👍
 

Fruit672 said:

And for the audio, are they using pre existing audio tracks or remastering the entire audio from the original multitracks? I’d love to finally get the option to get music only, sfx only, dialogue only audio options.

There some info on this in the Pastebin posted up in FAQ #3 (sources used for the ALI restoration), mate.

What will actually be featured any physical media release, if there is a release, is likely up in the air. Though we can always hope…
 

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#1666708
Topic
The <strong>random YouTube / Vimeo etc video finds</strong> thread for the Original Trilogy
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This may be of interest to anyone interested in film - and the use of VVI in Star Wars (as well as recent ALI OOT leaks)

 

Adam Savage Learns About VistaVision Filming Cameras at Paramount!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX9eV_JeVR0 - a 13 minute video from the Adam Savage Tested youtube channel.
 

The blurb: 'Adam visits the archives at Paramount Pictures, where he and Joey get to examine and learn about the history of VistaVision film cameras. Charlotte Barker, Paramount’s Director of Film Restoration and Preservation, shows us examples of this groundbreaking widescreen format and the inventive ways that VistaVision made use of 35mm film.

Tested Team Youtube Channel ‪@TestedTeam‬ ASC Video Series…
The History of Hollywood Film Cameras and Cinematography
The History of Hollywood’s Large Format Film Cameras!

 

a 2 minute snippet of ‘VistaVision for Star Wars FX’ - from Paul Hirsch’s book: www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAfe6AoX6w0
 

The Weird History of Archival Film Formats - a similar 28 minute video from the Adam Savage Tested youtube channel.