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#1392184
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Random Thoughts
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DominicCobb said:

Oh I’m sorry. I thought they were the same person.

oojason left the site some time ago. He left a post in the ‘Goodbye’ thread.

No, we’re not the same person. A few people on here do know this for sure, as they tracked him down to another site a few of us frequent, looking for dirt and info on oojason and accusing him of having socks or friends on here or something similar. The friends on here part is correct. The people who did the tracking down don’t like to talk about it though, probably because they’d have to actually admit tracking ooj down if they did. I’m told they have been quiet on the matter since.
 

Why much of our posting is similar is that a couple of us have finished up his incomplete projects on here, using his part-finished draft notes, links, layout and formatting (and copying & pasting). It was mentioned at the time in the project threads.

Handman said:

Fated-Dualist said:

Handman said:

Fated-Dualist said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Fated-Dualist said:

Are you the daddy or mommy?

I’m whatever you want me to be, ooj.

You not in touch with the stalker crowd, ‘TV Frink #’? Maybe the ‘oojason obsessives fan club’ should phone ooj again and ask him?

ooj still living rent-free in some peoples’ heads 😃

I am still in touch with TV’s Frink. I can believe someone might have called oojason, but it was not Frink or any of the others I talk to. Linking that incident directly to him is utter bullshit and you should be ashamed.

“Linking that incident to him is utter bullshit and you should be ashamed”?

I didn’t, I jokingly accused Duracell of being TV Fink #2, and asked if he (Duracell) is in touch with the stalker crowd.

It is you who have just linked TV’s Frink to the person(s) phoning ooj.

For the record I don’t think it was Frink either. Someone else likely in, or feeding off those PM threads on here, on other sites, in 40-page threads about this place, or various Discords over the past 2 years, for sure.
 

I have nothing to be ashamed about (well, not on here anyway). So take your mock indignation, accusation at me, and go discuss it with the ‘others you talk to’ in the ‘oojason obsessives fan club’.

Don’t gaslight me. You know what you’re doing, asshole. Playing the victim card for two years and demonizing a group of people who didn’t do anything to you is stupid and absurd.

Such anger and hostility from someone ‘who didn’t anything wrong’.

No victim card played, just pointed out the facts, and you certainly don’t like that. Quite aggressive and quick to throw insults about. Huh.

This is all very weird and toxic. And for that reason, and having finished ooj’s projects, I’m out. I really like this place, love classic Star Wars, the history of the site and what it does. But I have no desire to end up receiving the attention, harassment, stalking and malicious contacts that oojason did, or does. So it is bye from me.

I hope to be worthy of at least mention on your many platforms continuing to shit or vent on this place, or the mods & admin here. Though hopefully not the rest of it. Time will tell on that.

 

To the regular straight up people on the site, and those who make an effort to contribute on here, good luck for the future. I think it may be needed.

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#1392045
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Random Thoughts
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Handman said:

Fated-Dualist said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Fated-Dualist said:

Are you the daddy or mommy?

I’m whatever you want me to be, ooj.

You not in touch with the stalker crowd, ‘TV Frink #’? Maybe the ‘oojason obsessives fan club’ should phone ooj again and ask him?

ooj still living rent-free in some peoples’ heads 😃

I am still in touch with TV’s Frink. I can believe someone might have called oojason, but it was not Frink or any of the others I talk to. Linking that incident directly to him is utter bullshit and you should be ashamed.

“Linking that incident to him is utter bullshit and you should be ashamed”?

I didn’t, I jokingly accused Duracell of being TV Fink #2, and asked if he (Duracell) is in touch with the stalker crowd.

It is you who have just linked TV’s Frink to the person(s) phoning ooj.

For the record I don’t think it was Frink either. Someone else likely in, or feeding off those PM threads on here, on other sites, in 40-page threads about this place, or various Discords over the past 2 years, for sure.
 

I have nothing to be ashamed about (well, not on here anyway). So take your mock indignation, accusation at me, and go discuss it with the ‘others you talk to’ in the ‘oojason obsessives fan club’.

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#1391279
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<strong>Return Of The Jedi</strong> - a general <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> thread
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^ For all the absolute shit on You Tube about Star Wars (and still some great content too) there really should be a number of videos on this! 😃

Maybe someone on here has the relevant pages in Rinzler’s Making Of book and is willing to scan and post them?

Or let you know what those relevant pages are to try and get hold of?

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#1391269
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If you need to B*tch about something... this is the place
Time

It may be a good idea to step away from the internet for a bit Spuff.

Get some fresh air, go for a walk, read a book, play a game, listen to some music (not on the pc), learn a practical skill, try and relax a little more. Maybe watch some comedies, mix your daily routine up.

Maybe do all the above at the same time 😉

But stay off the internet for a bit.
 

NB: Duracell is the sex! He can not or should not stop. Perpetual motion in action.

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#1389070
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<strong>The Mandalorian</strong> - a general discussion thread - * <em><strong>SPOILERS</strong></em> *
Time

rocknroll41 said:

Couple of things I forgot to mention before:

1.Always great to see Michael Biehn getting work in Hollywood still!

Absolutely, though the Resistance sent him too far back this time 😉

2.It’s cool how this season has so many references to the Old Republic video games (the Krait Dragon battle, droids that look like HK47, the planet Tython, etc.).

I am inspired to go dig out the console from the loft and fire up the old games!
 

A great episode, yet again just leaving you wanting to see more of the story and adventure straight away. So much packed into this episode, and it could have so badly wrong if the delivery was off or lacking, yet they nailed it once again 👍
 

The only down side is that there are only three episodes left of the season (but what a season it has been so far!).

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#1389065
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YouTube/Vimeo/etc... Star Wars video finds
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Star Wars: The Complete Canon Timeline (2020)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TbykYzPxsk - 54 minute video, from the ‘Star Wars Explained’ YouTube channel
 

The blurb: ‘This is the entire history of the Star Wars canon as of May 4, 2020. The Star Wars films, TV shows, books, comics, video games, and short stories are all summarized into the most important moments in galactic history.’
 

It does a good job covering the main events of the GFFA, with a nice touch of including a link or reference to each book, game, comic or film (and now tv series) as each event is covered 👍

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#1388125
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Possible 'proof' that Greedo was always meant to shoot
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SilverWook said:

Fated-Dualist said:

It seems doubleofive got there first and saved it 😃

https://twitter.com/StarWarsVisComp/status/1330530045547438080
 

The original tweet and claim by author Paul Duncan (which he later deleted):-

I don’t know where the heck he got the idea Greedo’s subtitles were added in 1983. They have always been in the movie since 1977.
Must be open season on bad info lately. I’ve seen claims elsewhere that Splinter Of The Mind’s Eye was going to be a tv-movie, and that the Ewok films were partially shot on video. No idea where this stuff is coming from…

The worst thing for me is that Paul Duncan claims to be a film historian.

I can almost forgive some of the more outlandish claims made by clickbait journalists on clickbait-sites looking for views via a misleading and attention grabbing headline, stretching the truth, or giving a ‘different point of view’.

Yet a ‘film historian’ with two exclusive, official and expensive ‘Archive’ books currently out, and not even doing the most rudimentary of fact checks? Wow!

Perhaps Lucasfilm should be coming here for a factually correct history of Star Wars 😉

 

doubleofive said:

I’m going to be working on a definitive history of the Greedo scene in an all-new format: video.

Video? I look forward to your videos. Good luck!

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#1387787
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Help: looking for... Doug &amp; Aaahh!!! Real Monsters Pilots Preservation
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UncutIsSuperior said:

Hi. I’ve been wanting to see the original unaired pilot for Aaahh!!! Real Monsters, as well as the original pilot version of the Doug episode “Doug Can’t Dance”, for about a while now. If any of you could find these, then that would be great.

So this thread is more of a ‘Can you send me a copy of the original unaired pilot of ‘Aaahh!!! Real Monsters’?’ request, rather than a preservation project?

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#1387745
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<strong>Coronavirus</strong> (COVID-19) Pandemic thread - <strong>relevant political discussion allowed</strong> in here
Time

‘Coronavirus: Inside test-and-trace - how the ‘world beater’ went wrong’:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55008133
 

The appalling way some politicians and governments have handles this… well, thank our lucky stars we will soon have vaccines available to us. That the voting public will not forget some of the ineptitude, complacency and inaction from some of our ‘leaders’ during this pandemic which has claimed 1.4 million lives so far (directly), for which they take ‘no responsibility’.

Yet all credit to the world leaders who took firm action to suppress this.

Bring on the vaccines 👍

 

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#1385042
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<strong>2006 GOUT</strong> : The changes to the OT films &amp; general 2006 GOUT DVD discussion thread
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The 2006 GOUT DVD Release

The changes to the OT films & general 2006 GOUT DVD discussion thread…

 

 

Introduction:-

 
To any Rebels, Imperials, Guild Members and the dedicated scum and villainy from the OT•com reading this…
 

This is just one of a seven-part set of linked threads (see the end of this post for the links) to talk about each of the four main ‘Special Edition’ releases and the respective changes made to them over time - including a post for the original unaltered theatrical version, and also an unlikely scenario where “Somehow Lucas has returned!” with more changes made in yet another improbable future release.

The reason for these threads is try and help inform, educate and highlight any new fans who are unaware or are uninitiated with some the history of these continuing changes made to the three iconic Original Trilogy films (or be a reminder for me some of more forgetful members here). As well as highlighting a lack of release for the Original Trilogy films in their classic pre-1997 Special Edition version, and also about some of the changes & tweaks made to the groundbreaking and award-winning OT films from 1977 to 1996 too…

To serve as a centralised discussion and information thread for each of the main Original Trilogy releases… and also an archive of some of the quality threads and posts on the subject which has taken place on here down the years - as well as any useful, insightful or informative articles elsewhere.

Or a chance to just chat some more about the 2006 DVD release of the unaltered theatrical Original Trilogy.
 

Much credit to oojason for sending me his plans & ideas for the incomplete version of these threads - ‘I will finish what you started!’
 

Below is some hopefully useful & introductory information on the GOUT release (or simply a reminder for us oldies)…

 
 

The Announcement (+ Promo material) for the 2006 GOUT bonus discs DVD release:-

 

‘The GOUT - aka the 2006 Original Trilogy DVD release’

(with the unaltered theatrical version of the OT films on bonus discs)
 

After a long campaign by Star Wars fans all over the world - and spearheaded by this very site since 2003…
 

…George Lucas finally gave in to the massive demand from fans for the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy - the version he said no longer existed anymore - to be released on DVD.

 

 

On 3rd May, 2006:

StarWars•com announcement that the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy would be released on DVD:-

^ StarWars•com’s actual post on the announcement can be found here - via the Internet Archive’s Wayback Machine.

 

 

Rebels striking from a hidden base (sort of) have won their first victory - as acknowledged by Lucasfilm…

A screenshot image of the article on the Baltimore Sun website from the 5th May 2006, featuring quotes from Lucasfilm spokesman John Singh about the OriginalTrilogy•com - the passion of the fans here - as well as acknowledging that the theatrical versions of the Original Trilogy films are “…the movies that some fans have always wanted own, because they’re the ones they first saw in theaters.”…

 

 

An abridged screenshot image of Jay’s post on the OriginalTrilogy•com at the time:-

^ Jay’s actual post can be found here - via the Internet Archive’s Wayback Machine (read from the bottom of the page to the top)

 

 

Then, later in May… came the news that coming unaltered theatrical version release on DVD would be in letterbox format - and not anamorphic widescreen. Followed by the reveal that the transfer would be from what was used for the 1993 Definitive Edition Laserdiscs - a 13 year old project and, even back then (in 2006), of substandard quality - using compressed sound and adding DVNR to reduce the picture quality and detail further.

Upon learning of this, the previous claims on Jim Ward, Lucasfilm’s VP, quoted in the official announcement as returning…

“to the Lucasfilm Archives to search exhaustively for source material that could be presented on DVD. This is something that we’re very excited to be able to give to fans in response to their continuing enthusiasm for Star Wars”

in the shade. Along his words of…

“Over the years, a truly countless number of fans have told us they would love to see and own the original version that they remember experiencing in theaters”

also ringing hollow.

 

 

Fans here and elsewhere then immediately contacted Lucasfilm via email, phonecalls, faxes, and letters - politely informing them of our dissatisfaction with their decision to use this lazy and substandard transfer as a means to release the theatrical versions of the Original Trilogy on DVD…

^ Jay’s actual post can be viewed here - via the Internet Archive’s Wayback Machine (read from the bottom of the page to the top)

 

 

Lucasfilm’s following PR statement in 2006 after receiving a barrage of criticism from fans for their choice to use such a 13 year old substandard and limited quality laserdisc transfer for the coming 2006 DVD release - complete with somewhat nonsensical and factually disingenuous reply:-

^ The actual post above can be viewed here - via the Internet Archive’s WayBack Machine

 

 

 

George Lucas in 2006, on the theatrical Original Trilogy films finally being made available on DVD - as bonus discs on a repackaged 2004 Special Edition DVD boxset - along with trailers for the “Lego Star Wars” game on the theatrical version discs:-

“It’s just the original versions, as they were. We didn’t do anything to it at all. But we’re not sure how many people want that… Now we’ll find out whether they really wanted the original or whether they wanted the improved versions. It’ll all come out in the end.”

 
Lucasfilm Vice-President Jim Ward was more forthcoming on the quality of this 2006 unaltered Original Trilogy DVD release:-

“It is state of the art, as of 1993, and that’s not as good as state of the art 2006.”

 
^ re the source for the 2006 unaltered Original Trilogy DVD release originally being used for a 1993 laserdisc release. To say nothing of the DNR and many other quality issues on the 2006 release.
 

So… the people did indeed speak - and did indeed want “the original” - and still do.

Though both George and Lucasfilm knew that anyway - and are on record as admitting this.

George’s comments above also highlight he didn’t seemingly consider that fans may have actually wanted both versions in the highest quality possible, using the best sources, with the love and respect they deserve.

 

The OOT has been officially unavailable for almost a decade now - a 2021 thread by Lucas The Barbarian.

^ The thread notes that despite the 2006 GOUT DVDs being originally promoted and sold as a ‘Limited Edition’ release - only being available for a 4-month period from September 12th 2006 to December 31st 2006 - it wasn’t until April 2011 that the 2006 GOUT DVDs actually ceased production, and they were still being sold on store shelves up until September 2011, just before the 2011 SE / Saga blu-rays were released.

 

 

 

For more detailed information on the events surrounding the 2006 GOUT DVD release the following threads may be of some assistance:-

An OriginalTrilogy.com Timeline | a history of the site | the why & how it came to be…

George Lucas: Star Wars Creator, Unreliable Narrator and Time Travelling Revisionist

^ To date, the 2006 GOUT bonus disc release is the only time the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy has been officially available to buy and experience in your home on a digital format.

 

 

 

‘Star Wars Original Trilogy 2006 DVD Trailer’ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmtnEQS8ICw (3 minutes, 8 seconds long)

^ Only 20 seconds of time was dedicated to the unaltered theatrical version version in the above trailer - with the Lego Star Wars game & the release being a 2004 OT SE re-release taking up the remaining time.

 

 

Sources Of Information:-

 

2006 GOUT changes information:-

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_changes_in_Star_Wars_re-releases#2006_DVD_release

 

Since the 1997 Special Editions through to the 2019 Maclunkey releases - EXCEPT the GOUT (all credit to doubleofive)

Never forget that the Death Star has been in clear site of Yavin IV from the beginning of the battle since 1997 and this is how the Special Edition should have ended.':-

www.wired.com/story/put-original-star-wars-on-disney-plus (and scroll down to the ‘The Game Breaker’ section)

 
 

Got GOUT? The 2006 Original Version Bonus Feature Fiasco’:-

https://savestarwars.com/gout.html - article at the superb and comprehensive Saving Star Wars website

^ from Michael Kaminski - the author of the excellent and exhaustive ‘The Secret History Of Star Wars’ book.

 
 

From the Star Wars Home Video Library #15: Original Trilogy on DVD, Part 2 (2006)’:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgLEP76PHoo - 14 minute video, from the Nathan P Butler YouTube channel.

 
 

From the Star Wars Home Video Library #94: Original Trilogy DVD and Comic Packs (2006)’:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sVRJQChsig - 13 minute video, from the Nathan P Butler YouTube channel.

 
 

From the Star Wars Home Video Library #166: The Original Trilogy UK Collector’s Tin’:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C57km_81Adk - 15 minute video, from the Nathan P Butler YouTube channel.

 
 

From the Star Wars Home Video Library #187​: Australian 30th Anniversary DVD Set(a 2007 GOUT DVD release):-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNFTbiMkuEw - 21 minute video, from the Nathan P Butler YouTube channel.

 

 

• The Opening Post of the ‘Complete Comparison of Special Edition Visual Changes’ OT•com thread has an index for multiple source of information on many of the changes made to the Original Trilogy films over the years.

 

 

All Changes Made to Star Wars Original Trilogy’ by Marcelo Zuniga (now reuploaded at the Luke Skywalker YouTube channel)

• ‘All Changes Made to Star Wars (Comparison Video) PART I’: www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEch4j4KyoU
• ‘All Changes Made to Star Wars (Comparison Video) PART II’: www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aFJuehq3o4
• ‘All Changes Made to The Empire Strikes Back (Comparison Video)’: www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4FG_MqVfmE
• ‘All Changes Made to Return of the Jedi (Comparison Video)’: www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hT_i05btHI

^ The informative videos above were made in 2015 - and cover the changes from the OOT through to the 2011 SE release on blu ray.

 

 

For further information on the home releases of the 2006 GOUT DVD release of the Original Trilogy:-

Star Wars Visual Comparisons - Website : Twitter - by doubleofive
Star Wars On Video - Video Collector’s website
Star Wars Home Video Reference website - projectcclarke’s website
Star Wars on DVD (up to 2005) - Prillaman’s website portal
Star Wars Trilogy Limited Edition (2006 GOUT DVD) - Prillaman’s 2006 GOUT info / review website page
Star Wars Release Info: 1982-2004 - DavisDVD•com website (via Archive•org)
Star Wars - The Changes: 1997-2011 - DVDActive•com website (via Archive•org)
‘Star Wars home video releases’ - at Wookieepedia
‘Original Unaltered Trilogy’ (2006 GOUT DVD) - at Wookieepedia

 

 

A 2006 GOUT DVD Release poster:-

 

 

General online articles about the 2006 GOUT DVD Release:-

 
BluRay.com page for the 2006 GOUT DVD Release - at bluray•com
Original Star Wars Trilogy DVD Artwork Online - at MovieWeb
Star Wars On DVD – Again - at CBS News
Han shoots first on DVD - by CNet
Original Version of Star Wars Trilogy Coming to DVD - by AWN
Star Wars Trilogy to Be Released in Non-Anamorphic Widescreen Video - by MovieWeb
Who’s The More Foolish… The Fool Or The Fool Who Buys His Non-Anamorphic DVDs - at Lard Biscuit Enterprises
The unaltered Original Trilogy to be released on DVD (2006) - at TFn (Jedi Council Forums)
Yikes… more OT STAR WARS DVD details have been released and Quint goes on a little rant… - at AICN
The Star Wars Limited Edition Original Theatrical Version - review at CinemaBlend
Star Wars Limited Edition 2006 DVD Review - review at IGN
Star Wars, the GOUT edition… - review at Velocity Reviews
• AVForums Reviews for the 2006 GOUT DVD Release - SW : ESB : ROTJ
• DVDTalk website Reviews for the 2006 GOUT DVD Release: SW : ESB : ROTJ
Star Wars on DVD - Reviews - Star Wars Trilogy Limited Edition - at the Prillaman website
DVDs: Re-release of the Star Wars Trilogy - by Sound & Vision
The Best Ways to Own the Original Star Wars Trilogy - at the redvdit website
‘Star Wars’: Where to Find the Theatrical Versions of the Original Trilogy - at Yahoo
The Glass-Half-Full Gift Of The Only Official Unaltered Star Wars Original Trilogy DVDs - at SyFy•com
Original ‘Star Wars’ films available on DVD, if you’re willing to settle - at The Star Tribune
Why Finding The Original 1977 Star Wars Film Verges On The Impossible - at Inverse
The 2006 Original Trilogy DVDs. Not quite what we wanted. - at Episode Nothing
Original Unaltered Trilogy (2006) - at Wookieepedia

^ If anyone has any suggestions for any online articles on the GOUT release to be included here please post them below - thank you.

 
 

Relevant OriginalTrilogy•com threads on the 2006 GOUT DVD release:-

 
Obviously, there are countless OT•com threads about the 2006 GOUT DVD release of the original Trilogy on here - many of which can be found in the ‘Original Trilogy Discussion’, and the ‘Theatrical Cuts vs. Subsequent Releases’ sections of the site.

Here is just a small selection of threads…

The OOT on DVD - then what? - by Figrin_Dan (2004 thread)
Any truth to this? Lucas is releasing the three unaltered ORIGINAL Star Wars films? - by BentMyWookie
IT HAS FINALLY HAPPENED (The OOT being released on DVD) - by Nanner Split
ORIGINAL STAR WARS TRILOGY OUT 09/2006 BY LUCASFILM - by rstammer
We won! - by bomma
What is GOUT? - by 5acrifice
The Reason the OOT was released - by xombie84
How “original” do you think it is going to be…? (the 2006 GOUT DVD release) - by Vess
“GOUT” is not “unaltered”!?!?! - by g-force
The Official 2006 Discs Will Be No Better Than What We Have! - by Neil S. Bulk
Lucas talks about the Sept 12th Release of the O-OT - by CO
Fox France confirms the French OOT release >NOT< to be anamorphic - by Vigo
New DVDs NOT 16x9 - by seventiesfilmnut
Why is the GOUT not anamorphic? - by Johnboy3434
Make your voices heard! (again) - re the 2006 GOUT DVD being in letterbox format - by yanksno1
OOT DVDs - interlaced or progressive? - by Moth3r
The Official Lucasfilm Response - by Neil S. Bulk
Soundtrack for Star Wars OOT DVD? - by BountyHunter
OUT Audio: Pablo Speaks - by Zion
Torn… To buy, or not to buy - by skyranger
O-OT Star Wars “Bonus Disc” menus (www.starwars.com) - by Darth Cracker
The “original crawl” on the new DVD is NOT the original crawl! Screenshot inside! - by zombie84
2006 OT DVD: The Crawl on Star Wars - by Cable-X1
The GOUT crawl - by Darth Editous

So, this is how the DVDs are going to look… - by Laserschwert
2006 OT DVD: Poll: So What are You Going to Do? - by ESHBG (just prior to the release of the GOUT)
We have to buy this set at least to preserve it for the next generation of fans - by CO
Original Trilogy DVD FAQ (Unofficial) - by TheCassidy
Star Wars Trilogy - Original Theatrical Versions: 2006 DVD Flaw List - by Moth3r
What’s missing from GOUT - by Darth Mallwalker
Are the PAL GOUT DVDs upscaled from the NTSC masters? - by Moth3r
What Has Changed? the 2006 OT DVD release… - by THX
It has begun: StarWars.com to celebrate original films - by Zion
SW.com: “First and ONLY Time” - by ESHBG
Star Wars Trilogy tops IGN’s “Most Wanted DVDs” - by sybeman
www.dvdempire.com O-OT pre-orders rankings (updated) - by CO
Even Cosmo Magazine is Talking About the 09/12 Release… - by ESHBG

first viewing of the 2006 OOT dvds - by grifter (re AICN’s preview)
Original Trilogy DVD Article in Total Film - by Jambe Davdar
First Impressions of the OOT … - by The Dark Lord
2006 OT DVD: Got mine! - by MST
My store just got the new DVDs - by Scallenger
2006 OUT DVD to Definitive Collection LD comparison question? - by jhfagan
2006 DVD OOT - by bbbb
For me…it all came out in the end… - by Cable-X1
I heard the 2006 set with the GOUT is now gone… - by American Hominid
DIF - Difference tool to spot visual changes - Current 2004 vs 2019 - by none

Is GOUT resented? - by S_Matt
Which is considered canon, the Special Edition or GOUT? - by knreuben
What is better quality original trilogy? 2006 bonus dvd PAL - or NTSC 2006 bonus dvd? - by nobodybutjarjar42
Question about the 2006 “GOUT” DVDs - by drfsupercenter
A question re the 2006 OT DVD versions - by Farquh
Question about the 2006 dvds I think you call the GOUT - by Vaderisnothayden
9 years ago Lucasfilm announced the GOUT on DVD - by Haarspalter
10th Anniversary of the “GOUT” dvd release - by Knightmessenger
Will you buy the OOT again? - by SW
Could the 2006 DVDs become collector’s items? - by JamesEightBitStar
The OOT has been officially unavailable for almost a decade now - by Lucas The Barbarian (final GOUT DVD pressings in 2011)
How George Lucas created the O-OT fanbase… - by CO
When/Why did you become an OT purist? - by DominicCobb
Explaining the shoddy OOT treatment in public - by Vigo
You know you’re an O-OT fan when… - by JennyS1138
Random memories from 1977-83 - by CO
Fondest Memory from the OT Days - by Cable-X1
How do you feel about Star Wars being re-titled A New Hope in 1981? - by ray_afraid
Several BR/DVD players can’t access second layer of the 2006 GOUT DVDs (disc rot or other playback issues?)

^ If anyone has any suggestions for any OT•com threads on the GOUT release to be included here please post them below - thank you.

 

2006 GOUT DVD Improvement Projects can be found in ‘An Index Of Projects & Help Thread for Star Wars Preservations’.

 

 

 
 

 
 

 
 

 

 

General online articles on the Special Edition changes & releases:-

 
‘Disney+ Should Offer the Star Wars Original Cuts — All of Them’ - at Wired
‘What We Want And How To Make It’ - at SWVC, by doubleofive
‘Special Edition Changes’ at Saving Star Wars, by Zombie84
‘The Star Wars Special Editions’ - at The Star Wars Trilogy
‘15 Changes to the Original ‘Star Wars’ Trilogy That Still Make Us Crazy’ - at Yahoo Entertainment
‘Star Wars Original Trilogy Changes: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly’ - at ScreenRant
‘Who Shot First? The Complete List Of Star Wars Changes’ (actually, it is more of an overview) - at Empire Online
‘Greedo Shoots First’ and ‘Greedo Shoots First, Take 4: Maclunkey’ - at SWVC, by doubleofive
‘Star Wars: 10 Worst Crimes Against the Original Trilogy’ - at Den Of Geek
‘The 12 Worst Changes George Lucas Made To Star Wars’ - at Goliath
‘How Star Wars’ Special Edition Ruined Mos Eisley’s Scum & Villainy’ - at ScreenRant
‘Star Wars: Why Do People Hate Vader’s Added Line in ROTJ So Much?’ - at CheatSheet
‘The Version of Star Wars on Disney+ Changes the Canon Once Again’ - at Wired
‘J.J. Abrams Wants The Original Star Wars Trilogy Theatrical Cuts To Be Released Again’ - at ScreenRant
‘The Star Wars Blu-Ray Blues’ - at Saving Star Wars (debunking Lucas’ 2010 claim of the ‘difficulties’ in restoring the OOT)
‘Save Star Wars’ - doubleofive’s Blog article (re Lucas’ disingenuous 2010 comments on the ‘difficulties’ of restoring the OOT)
‘Untouched is impossible: the story of Star Wars in film’ - 2010 article at ARS Technica
‘Could Disney finally give us the remastered, unedited Star Wars we want?’ - 2017 article at ARS Technica

 
 

General OT•com threads covering the unaltered theatrical version & releases:-

 
An Index & Help Thread for ‘Original Trilogy Discussion’
An Index & Help Thread for ‘Theatrical Cuts vs. Subsequent Releases’
Complete Comparison of Special Edition Visual Changes
An OriginalTrilogy.com Timeline | a history of the site | the why & how it came to be…
George Lucas: Star Wars Creator, Unreliable Narrator & Time Travelling Revisionist
Some useful OT.com threads re the suppression of the theatrical Original Trilogy films
The 'Naysayer Guide’ by people who DON’T want an unaltered theatrical release of the Original Trilogy…
Articles & info that highlight / call for a classic version release of the Original Trilogy
4K restoration on Star Wars

Modern SE Revisionism
Reasoning Behind Changes from Release to Release
It seems like nobody involved in the making of the OT has spoken up about GL’s oppression of the OOT
You’d think they’d clean this up - the unfixed issues of the 2004 OT SE DVD release…
What HASN’T changed on the 2011 OT SE Blu-ray release – the uncorrected mistakes…
Uncorrected mistakes or unfixed issues of the 2019 (Maclunkey) Original Trilogy release?
Credits & Leaders Thread
Disney Plus should release all of the theatrical versions of the Star Wars movies

 

 

 

 

‘The changes to the Original Trilogy films & general Special Edition discussion’ threads:-

 
The OOT (1977-1996)
1997 Special Edition
2004 Special Edition
The 2006 GOUT DVD
2011 Special Edition
2019 Special Edition
2037 Special Edition (“Somehow… Lucas has returned!”) - or any possible future SE release.

 
 

If you know of any articles or OT•com threads that are relevant, or would improve this thread, please post them below - thank you.

 

The content of thread was originally part of the The OOT : The changes to the OT films & general (1977-96) discussion thread - though after a few suggestions from other members it seemed a good idea for the 2006 GOUT Release to have its own thread instead, so here we are!