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An Index & Help Thread for Original Trilogy Discussion

 
An Index of just a few of the 2300+ topics that have been posted in the ‘Original Trilogy Discussion’ section of the OriginalTrilogy•com down the years… to try help everyone find topics of interest and information a little more easily.

 

The Index Categories are:-

Original Trilogy Discussions…

The three Original Trilogy Films, including sub-categories such as…

  • Scenes, Dialogue, Tropes, and Meta (+ Deleted or Missing Scenes)
  • Plot holes, inconsistencies, contradictions, disconnects, mental gymnastics, + stretches etc: the OT vs later Star Wars
  • Characters & Actors
  • Creatures, Aliens & Droids
  • Gadgets & Gizmos (including clothing, uniforms, lightsabers etc)
  • Ships & Vehicles
  • Settings & Planets (including Systems and Death Stars etc)
  • The Force; The Light, The Dark, the in-between, and the mystery… (with midichlorians & Anakin’s fall to the dark side)

Media (Threads re News, Images, Art, Posters, Captions, Gifs, Videos etc)
Soundtracks / Music / Audio threads
Documentaries
Anniversaries - 2017, 2020 & 2023 | 2027 for the 50th | plus other anniversaries & ‘Star Wars Days’

Fandom (Info : Thoughts : Questions : Viewing the films : Your love of the OT : What the unaltered OT means to you : This site)…

  • General Fandom Discussion; random thoughts, favourite moments, retro & nostalgia, rabbit holes, love of the OT
  • Watching the Original Trilogy for the first time - and introducing the next generation
  • ❗❕ Threads highlighting efforts for an official release of the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy ❕❗
  • Other websites / communities supposed issues with the OT•com, the Original Trilogy, or the unaltered theatrical cuts.

Archival / Historical Discussions (History & Events : George Lucas & numerous talents Behind The Scenes in the OT / Lucasfilm era)
The numerous alterations made to the Original Trilogy films over the years
The Home Releases and Formats of the differing versions of the Original Trilogy (+ many discussions on the 2006 GOUT DVDs)

FAQs, Information & Useful Links…

Useful Links & Information (many are to / by familiar names and faces from around here)
FAQs, Encyclopaedias & similar resources, and Star Wars Lore
 

 


 

For the many of us wanting to have an official release for the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy…

 
#ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy | doubleofive’s ‘Disney+ Should Offer the Star Wars Original Cuts’ article on the Wired website

^ A quality and comprehensive article on why the films are important to the people who grew up with them, why they wish to have the option to experience them as they originally were released - as well as preserving important and cultural film history for everyone to view and enjoy. A reminder that the various ‘Special Edition’ versions are NOT the award-winning, iconic, landmark & ground-breaking original version of the films. And highlights just why we are here - some of us for many years, and some just taking our first steps…

WIRED’s Article “Disney+ Should Offer the Star Wars Original Cuts”, doubleofive’s Magnum Opus (OT•com thread on ^ article)

#ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy | What We Want And How To Make It - a sequel piece by doubleofive to the above Wired article.
 

❗ #ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy | OriginalTrilogy•com’s enduring goal | How YOU can help… ❗

^ The OT•com supporting the #ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy campaign - the call for an official release of the unaltered theatrical version of the three classic Star Wars films films - and what YOU can do to help restore them to the galaxy. MTFBWY… Always.

 
 


 

If you are looking for Fan Preservations of the Original Trilogy - this is where to look…

 
(Notably Harmy’s Despecialized Editions, or TN1’s 4K77/80/83 Trilogy, or other countless preservation projects made by fans)
 

Star Wars Preservation

and

An Index Of Projects & Help Thread for Star Wars Preservations
 

as well looking in…

About, Help, Welcome to the OriginalTrilogy.com | Introduce yourself in here | Useful info within, and ‘How do I do this?’ on the OriginalTrilogy.com; some info & answers + member FAQs - for links to useful info and some often-searched fan projects.
 

Information can also be found in the various pinned ‘Index & Help’ threads located around the forum.

👍

 
 


 
 

These Star Wars discussion threads prove to be quite popular / useful (and so are also ‘pinned’ up here at the top of this Index) - as well as a general ‘Star Wars News’ thread:-

Original Trilogy news & articles thread - online pieces on the OT films, the cast and crew - a 2023 thread

Star Wars News - articles that may not have enough interest for their own threads… - a 2018 thread, in ‘General SW Discussion’

General Star Wars Questions - a 2017 thread; Got a quick query you want answered? Don’t create a new thread - ask it in here…

The Retro Star Wars Thread - a 2016 thread

4K restoration on Star Wars - a 2014 thread; starting with Reliance Media Works undertaking a 4K restoration of the Original Trilogy films - and onto the 4K releases (with further changes made to the films) in November 2019 - aka the ‘2019 Special Edition’…

 

The following four ‘Random Thoughts’ threads for the Original Trilogy movies are also listed here for ease of use:-

Star Wars (1977) - a general Random Thoughts thread

The Empire Strikes Back - a general Random Thoughts thread

Return Of The Jedi - a general Random Thoughts thread

The Original Trilogy - a general Random Thoughts thread

 

 

 

 

Original Trilogy Discussions…

 
(The OT Films : Scenes, Tropes & Meta : Characters & Actors : Ships & Vehicles : Settings : Fandom : Media, Collections & Memorabilia)

 

 

 

 

The Original Trilogy Films…

 

That Star Wars Feeling… | What Star Wars has meant to you | How has Star Wars aged with you? | What feels most Star Wars
 

4K restoration on Star Wars (a 2014 thread - Lowry Digital / RelianceMediaWorks)

Lucas’ Inspirations for Star Wars (2012 thread)

How much does Lucas owe to Jorodowky’s Dune? Would Star Wars even exist without Dune? (2015 thread)

Similarities between Star Wars and Dune (2007 thread)

Bushido of Star Wars (2004 thread; and the influence in Star Wars)

Star Wars / Hidden Fortress (2009 thread)

The Journal of the Whills: A Reconstruction of the 1973 Plot (2015 thread)

Star Wars '73 (2017 thread)

Visuals/Origins of the SW 1974 Rough Draft (image heavy) (2014 thread)

Dark Horse to adapt “The Star Wars” (2013 thread; re the 8-part comic series of the original 1974 draft script of Star Wars)

Gloria Katz and Willard Huyck’s work on Star Wars (2011 thread)

Leigh Brackett’s first draft of Empire (2010 thread)

The Empire Strikes Back (11/28/77 Story Synopsis Reconstruction) (2020 thread)

Hey guys, Remember when Star wars had writing like this? (2006 thread)

Star Wars Scripts: Starkiller - The Jedi Bendu Script Site (links to external site)

Ben Burtt’s “Special Effects: Anything Can Happen” (with more sources and info on Ben Burtt’s work)

The Lucas Film Edit (aka ‘How Star Wars was saved in the edit’ video) (2017 thread)

The Shifting Tone of Star Wars

OT Plot Development Analyses

Star Wars could have been a modern day Iliad

• Harmy’s My STAR WARS Thesis; I need help! thread from 2012 (we’ll do your homework for you, Harmy! 😉)

Star Wars is Surrealism, not Science Fiction (an essay) (2021 thread, by ZkinandBonez)

Science Fiction or Space Fantasy - what is Star Wars? (2018 thread, by yotsuya)

Star Wars has felt “off” to me since 1980 (essay) (2021 thread, by Pakka)

Original Trilogy Reception 1977-1983

Fondest Memory from the OT Days (2005 thread)

Apparently there were message boards discussing the OT back in '83 (2008 thread)

How big was Star Wars in the 70s 80s and 90s?

For older fans. Getting made fun of for liking Star Wars in the 70s/80s. (2014 thread)

Star Wars becoming “mainstream” and “popular” (2006 thread)

The Original Trilogy at the Oscars (2021 thread)

The 'Naysayer Guide’ by people who DON’T want an unaltered theatrical release of the Original Trilogy (2021 thread)

The Star Wars canon saga as only the Original Trilogy? (2022 thread)
 

Star Wars (1977)

 
Star Wars (1977) - a general Random Thoughts thread (2020 thread)

Star Wars (1977) - ‘Behind The Scenes / Making Of’ images thread

Star Wars at MidAmeriCon (1976) (2017 thread - with videos)

Star Wars 1977 convention pictures

StarWars.com article regarding opening day May 25, 1977 (2020 thread)

The Jedi, the Empire, and what the hell they know on Tatooine? (2020 thread)

Star Wars Reviews from 1977

Star Wars mania in 1977

The Academy Award winning editing of Episode IV (2006 thread)

A reminder that once upon a time Star Wars was just a movie (2022 thread)

A New Hope as a Stand-alone Movie (2023 thread)

How do you feel about Star Wars being re-titled A New Hope in 1981? (2020 thread)

Names matter (2020 thread; the title “A New Hope” being like another Special Edition change?)

Star Wars vs. A New Hope - Which do you say and why? (2015 thread)

How to refer to Star Wars? (2018 thread)
 

The Empire Strikes Back

 
The Empire Strikes Back - a general Random Thoughts thread (2020 thread)

Empire Strikes Back - ‘Behind The Scenes / Making Of’ images thread

How do you feel about the inclusion of “Episode V” in ESB’s opening crawl in 1980? (2020 thread)

When did The Empire Strikes Back become more highly regarded than Star Wars?

The Empire Strikes Back is the best Star Wars movie. Or is it?

Is Empire Strikes Back really George Lucas’ least favorite?

George Lucas jealous of Irvin Kershner’s Star Wars?

The Empire Strikes Back - Panic Attack Cut

Audience reaction to the reveal? (Empire Strikes Back)

how did you react to the Yoda Reveal? (2022 thread)

The Problem with “There is Another” line (2022 thread)

Help Me Understand Empire Strikes Back?

The Empire Strikes Back is a “junk movie” (Washington Post review - a 2012 thread)

ESB or TESB? (2021 thread; a ‘How do you refer to Empire Strikes Back - and why?’ discussion)
 

Leigh Brackett’s 1st draft for The Empire Strikes Back - 17th February 1978…

(Vader and Luke’s father are still two completely separate characters (George is lying once more when he claims the films were always about “the tragedy of Darth Vader”); Vader had killed Luke’s father in battle… Luke’s deceased father appears to Luke as a force ghost, and tells Luke of his sister… Nellith. Only in ESB’s 2nd draft, written by Lucas, does Vader and Luke’s father become the same person.)

^ a 2019 ‘Star Wars Mythbusting’ twitter thread by Lucasfilm Creative Arts Manager Phil Szostak, also confirms the above, and more…

Leigh Brackett’s first draft of Empire (2010 thread)

First draft of EMPIRE STRIKES BACK screenplay gets leaked… (2010 thread)

The Empire Strikes Back: 1st Draft by Leigh Brackett (Transcript) - at Starkiller: The Jedi Bendu Script Site (starwarz•com)

The Empire Strikes Back – First Draft by Leigh Brackett - article by T-bone; at Starkiller: The Jedi Bendu Script Site (starwarz•com)

A synopsis of Leigh Brackett’s ESB draft script: with concept art & production images from the time - at Star Wars Aficionado

Random Musings about the Empire Strikes Back Draft Script (2023 thread)

“Star Wars 2”: an Audio Drama of the Leigh Brackett script to ESB (2015 thread)

OT Plot Development Analyses (2012 thread; including Leigh Brackett filmic style)

George Lucas using co-writers (2005 thread)
 

Return Of The Jedi

 
Return Of The Jedi - a general Random Thoughts thread (2020 thread)

Return Of The Jedi - ‘Behind The Scenes / Making Of’ images thread

Return Of The Jedi is the best Star Wars film… discuss!

Return Of The Jedi Appreciation Thread

Opinion: Return Of The Jedi is Very Underrated. Do You Agree?

30 years: Your Memories of Waiting for ROTJ

Return of the Jedi - your opinion?

What is wrong with Return Of The Jedi?

Who Felt Return Of The Jedi Was A Letdown At The Time? (2010 thread)

Return Of The Jedi (why so much hate?)

My Top 10 Reasons ROTJ sucks (2011 thread)

Remember when everyone hated Return of the Jedi?

I can’t BELIEVE this guy!? What an A**HOLE!!! ROTJ Review (2008 thread)

Return of the Jedi: A Generational Conflict

What was the point of hiring Richard Marquand in the first place? (2016 thread)

Richard Marquand’s effect on Return of the Jedi (2020 thread)

Return Of The Jedi trivia (2003 thread)

Jabba the Hutt Strategy (2008 thread)

In Defense of the Ewoks (a ROTJ-ish thread)

Should Han have died in RotJ? (2022 thread)

Did you think Lucas regret the way Palpatine died? (2022 thread)

Return of the Jedi joins the National Film Registry (2021 thread)

Buttercup Valley, Arizona 1982 - Pics! it did happen! - fans find where ROTJ is being filmed…

Why ROTJ Feels Rushed (2023 thread)

ROTJ: Connecting Act I with the rest of the movie (2023 thread; rescue of Han on Tatooine - into the Rebel assault on DSII)

Return Of The Jedi’s ‘Black Friday’ - 22nd November 1982… (2021 thread)

Reconstructing the end of ROTJ with Storyboards (2022 thread; a superb project by timdiggerm)

B-Wings in ROTJ, editing epiphany (2011 thread)

Return of the Jedi cut-scene (2010 thread)

Show us the Death Star II construction (2022 thread)

Why did they use Arriflex cameras on Return of the Jedi rather than Panavision cameras?

Jedi or Return? (2023 thread; a ‘How do you refer to Return Of The Jedi - and why?’ discussion)
 

General Original Trilogy

 
The Original Trilogy - a general Random Thoughts thread (2020 thread)

How much time does each movie cover?

Implied starting date of the Empire from OT dialogue - including character age discussions + when certain events took place…

What single (Non-SW) movie from the last 30 odd years has come closest to the spirit of Star Wars?.. and why?

The Visual Design of Star Wars

Ralph McQuarrie SW Art Site

Fantastic Interview with Colin Cantwell, Original Star Wars Prototypist! (2014 thread)

1975 Ship Models - Visible for 1st time (2019 thread - by Colin Cantwell)

Pre-MaQuarrie “illustrations” for Star Wars (NASA, Flash Gordon, Frazetta, etc.) (2016 thread)

The Man Who LITERALLY Built Star Wars (interview with Roger Christian; OT Set Decorator)

Hidden items in Original Trilogy and other SW

Small details that took you FOREVER to notice in the Star Wars films (2019 thread)

Star Wars: The Costume Thread

‘Behind The Scenes’ Info on the Original Trilogy from The London Film & ComicCon '07

Star Wars Trailers

Shrinking Star Wars? - the SW universe that seems to shrink in the OT/Saga…?

The Star Wars canon saga as only the OT? (2022 thread)

Credits & Leaders Thread - by none; for film credit information on the three OT films, and more…

What’s Star Wars like in your language?

If Star Wars flopped… (2006 thread)

Fondest Memory from the OT Days (2005 thread)

• Rankings for the Original Trilogy - and other Star Wars content - can be found in An Index for General Star Wars Discussion

Star Wars internet Rabbit holes (2018 thread)

The Lost Art of Star Wars - article by doubleofive. A gallery of shots where the original work for the theatrical version of the OT… is just gone. Some of it award-winning, some if it using technology they were sometimes inventing to complete, and all of it… film history.

List of Academy Awards for The Original Trilogy - article by doubleofive. Includes content replaced in the various Special Editions.

 

The Secret History of Star Wars thread on the book - by zombie84 (2007 thread)

The Secret History of Star Wars - now available in print - by zombie84 (2008 thread)

The Secret History of Star Wars - website link; kindly archived, re-uploaded and rehosted by ‘none’.

Saving Star Wars - the website - by zombie84 (2010 thread)

Saving Star Wars - website link; kindly archived, re-uploaded and rehosted by ‘none’.

Making of Star Wars (New Book) Discussion - book by J.W. Rinzler, thread by none

Making of Empire Strikes Back (the book) thread - book by J.W. Rinzler, thread by skyjedi2005 : Heilemann’s thread

Making of Return of the Jedi (the book) Thread - book by J.W. Rinzler, thread by none

Star Wars Storyboards: The Original Trilogy (the book) - book by J.W. Rinzler, thread by ATMachine

^ More books on the Original Trilogy can be found in The Expanded Universe section - with many other books, novels & comics.

 

 

 

 

Star Wars Scenes, Dialogue, Tropes, and Meta etc…

 

 

General Original Trilogy Scenes & Dialogue threads:-

 
Favourite Scene from the Original Trilogy?

Any favorite Star Wars scenes?

THE Most Awesome Scene in Star Wars

Top 5 Moments in the Original Trilogy

Favorite line from the Star Wars Saga

The Best Line in the Star Wars Films

Most Powerful Quote in all the Star Wars films

Goosebump lines

Lines you thought they said…

Worst Dialogue from the OT

The Worst Scene/Sequence in Any Star Wars Film

Am I the only one who thinks the CGI effects look fake? (2005 thread; re the Special Edition changes + some Prequel critiques)

Which Vader vs. Luke Duel is Better?

Small details that took you FOREVER to notice in the Star Wars films (2019 thread)

A mini-index of dedicated OT•com threads on the subject of Han vs Greedo / Han Shoots First in Star Wars (2019 thread)

A mini-index of dedicated OT.com threads on the subject of Anakin Skywalker’s Force Ghost in Return Of The Jedi (2020)
 

More discussion threads on Special Edition scene changes in the Original Trilogy can be found in these two categories…

‘The Scene Changes; the alterations of various scenes over the years’

&

‘The various Releases / Editions / Sets / Versions (and the changes to them)’

in An Index & Help Thread for Theatrical Cuts vs. Subsequent Releases - of the Theatrical Cuts vs. Subsequent Releases forum.

 
 

Star Wars (1977): Scenes & Dialogue…

 
ANH - Skyhopper scenes (2017 thread)
The problem of Owen Lars (2017 thread)
“I was ONCE (emphasis mine) a Jedi Knight, the same as your father.” (2007 thread)
Obi_Wan’s Reaction in Star Wars IV (Luke asks him how his father was killed) (2019 thread)
Anyone else preferring the way buildings on Tatooine looked like, before the SE and the Prequels? (2022 thread)
Your first impression of “The Clone Wars” (2011 thread)
“And these blast points, too accurate for Sand People. Only Imperial stormtroopers are so precise.” - sarcasm? (2004 thread)
Nice moves, old man (2023 thread; re Han’s “Nice moves, old man - pretty impressive” line to Ben…)
A mini-index of dedicated OT•com threads on the subject of Han vs Greedo / Han Shoots First in Star Wars (2019 thread)
Han vs Greedo (2004 thread)
Maclunkey (2019 thread)
Han Shoots First - Any valid reason to not have Han shoot first? (2021 thread)
An exact quote from Lucas on Greedo shooting first (2006 thread)
Greedo Shot First (Lucas’ false claims debunked again; frame by frame comparisons, GIF’s, the whole nine yards) - by doubleofive
Jabba the Hutt (2010 thread; re the SE insert - the redundancy of the scene reusing same dialogue from the previous Greedo scene)
Jabba scene (2009 thread; re the SE insert - the redundancy of the scene reusing same dialogue from the previous Greedo scene)
The line of dialogue “I have a bad feeling about this”… (2004 thread)
The battle of Yavin… (2010 thread)
The battle of Yavin (2008 thread)
The Battle of Yavin (2004 thread)
The Death Star trench run (2017 thread)
 

Some ideas / suggestions for more ‘Scenes & Dialogue’ / dedicated discussion threads for Star Wars (1977):-

• The Imperials chasing and securing the Tantive IV…
• The Droids escape - and their exploits on Tatooine
• Obi-Wan finds Luke - and later explains the Force…
• The Imperials searching for the droids (encounters with Jawas, Uncle Owen & Aunt Beru…)
• Mos Eisley (including The Cantina; more so The Cantina than just ‘Han vs Greedo’ - maybe the alien changes for the SEs?)
• Rescuing Leia on the Death Star (and also Obi-Wan vs Vader)
• The Medal Ceremony
 

Empire Strikes Back: Scenes & Dialogue…

 
Han and Leia’s incredibly realistic fight (2023 thread; re the scenes at Echo Base)
Audience reaction to the reveal? (Empire Strikes Back) (2006 thread)
How did you react to the Yoda Reveal? (2022 thread)
Who Was Obi Wan Kenobi’s Real Master? (2014 thread)
Was Yoda crazy? (2009 thread)
R2 left out in the rain on degobah (2017 thread)
Yoda’s line of “Too old! Yes, too old to begin the training”… (2004 thread)
About the cave on Dagobah… (2006 thread)
“If you leave now, help them you could…” (2006 thread)
The problem with “There is Another” line (2022 thread)
“Alert my Star Destroyer to prepare for my arrival.” What was the point? (2009 thread; re the SE insert)
Hoooow is that possible…” (2005 thread)
Does this make sense - Emperor and Vader dialogue from Empire Strikes Back…? (2004 thread)
What exactly did Han pull? (2011 thread)
Luke’s scream when falling after his fight with Vader at Cloud City (2018 post re the SE insert; scroll down to it)
Luke’s X-wing left at Bespin? How did he get it back? (2020 thread)
 

Some ideas / suggestions for more ‘Scenes & Dialogue’ / dedicated discussion threads for Empire Strikes Back:-

• Luke vs Hoth Wampa - and his rescue by Han (RIP Tauntaun)
• The Battle Of Hoth
• Dagobah (Yoda, training and The Force, the Cave, Luke leaving to rescue his friends)
• The Asteroid Field
• Cloud City (Vader capturing Han & Leia. Lando breaking the deal, saving ice cream makers, and Vader’s trap for Luke)
• Meeting up with the Rebel Fleet (+ general discussion on the ending of the film)
 

Return Of The Jedi: Scenes & Dialogue…

 
Jabba the Hutt Strategy (2008 thread)
The Surprisingly Strange Story of “Lapti Nek” (2012 thread)
The Lapti Nek Appreciation Thread (2011 thread)
The lost song from Jabba’s palace (2006 thread)
Song In Jabba’s Palace (2004 thread)
In Defense of the Ewoks (2017 thread)
I cannot disobey my master (2009 thread)
Return Of The Jedi’s ‘Black Friday’ - 22nd November 1982… (2021 thread; re B-Wings and the Rebel fleet at the Battle Of Endor)
‘Return of the Jedi’ Tennis Shoe Easter Egg (2023 thread)
A mini-index of OT.com threads on the subject of Anakin Skywalker’s Force Ghost in Return Of The Jedi (2020 thread)
Your first reaction to Hayden in ROTJ (2006) : Unbearable HC (2005) : Anakin’s Force Ghost (2022) : Anakin re-cast in RotJ (2019)
The ending of ROTJ re-edited for the Special Editions (2021 post; including video - www.youtube.com/watch?v=88Z6G9LewT8)
Am I the only one who prefers the old Ewok music?
Can we get some love for Yub Nub? (2021 thread)
ROTJ Celebration Themes - 1983 or 1997? (2009 thread)
Victory Celebration (2012 thread)
 

Some ideas / suggestions for more ‘Scenes & Dialogue’ / dedicated discussion threads for Return Of The Jedi:-

• Jabba’s Palace (not the music; which has been well covered on a few occasions… but more on the Palace plot and scenes)
• Jabba’s Barge & The Sarlacc Pit
• Manny Bothans (and the Rebels’ plan)
• Endor (Speeder Bike chase, the Ewoks - BBQ’d Han & persuading them to fight, + the Ground Assault on the Deflector Shield)
• The Rebel Fleet vs the Death Star & the Imperial Fleet
• Luke vs Vader and The Emperor
 

^ If there are any other OT•com threads covering individual scenes and lines of the dialogue from the Original Trilogy films please post them up in here for inclusion - thank you. There are also more topics covering some scenes in the character threads below…

 
 

Tropes & Meta etc…

 
Things you never noticed before in the films (2005 thread)

Small details that took you FOREVER to notice in the Star Wars films

Childhood Misconceptions (aka The Trap Thread, but misconceptions still welcome)

Oh my god-green shirt !

another example of Lucas changing things to appeal to a new generation - lightsaber dueling styles of OT vs PT (2010 thread)

Who Was Obi Wan Kenobi’s Real Master?

Shrinking Star Wars? (2011 thread)

Star Wars flaws (a to do list for fan edits) (2019 thread)

Things that you have always wondered about… (2006 thread)

The Infamous “Stormtrooper Aim” Explained With Science

"And these blast points, - too accurate for Sand People. Only Imperial stormtroopers are so precise." - (2004 thread)

Leia’s Role in the Rebellion

The infamous chest grope

why do people like boba fett? (2005 thread)

Why don’t people hate the Palpatine re-casting in ESB yet despise Force ghost Anakin’s re-casting in RotJ? (2019 thread)

Why no mention of “Sith” in Episodes IV-VI?

HowTo: Put Wookies into Return of the Jedi

Return of the Jedi: The “Lightman” Mystery

All Stormtroopers with Jango’s voice (2004 thread)

Qui Gon’s death (why he did not disappear a la Obi-Wan?)

Why do they go into exile? (Yoda & Obi-Wan in & after Episode III)

Best battle (2006 thread)

What if Disney decided to remake the OT? (2017 thread)

Remake of the Original Trilogy (2016 thread)

Original Trilogy Remake (2019 thread)

Alternative Star Wars Movie Titles

Unlikely Star Wars Film Titles

 

Deleted or ‘Missing’ Scenes…

 
OT Deleted Scenes Discussion (2011 thread)

Deleted scenes on BD (2011 thread)

Star Wars OOT with Deleted Scenes? (2012 thread - in ‘Theatrical Cuts vs. Subsequent Releases’)

Star Wars Deleted Scenes - Reincorporated? (2011 thread - in ‘Star Wars Fan Edits and Other Projects’)

Bonus/Extras - What am I missing? (2018 thread)

Star Wars: deleted and extended scenes - database (2016 thread, by spoRv - in ‘Star Wars Preservation’)

Star Wars deleted scenes reinserted (2014 thread - in ‘Star Wars Fan Edits and Other Projects’)

Return of the Jedi cut-scene (2010 thread)

Return Of The Jedi’s ‘Black Friday’ - 22nd November 1982… (2021 thread)

^ the Deleted Scene Preservation & Restoration Projects (and some discussions)… thread in An Index & Help Thread for Star Wars Preservations… - in the ‘Star Wars Preservation’ section of the site may also be of interest.
 

Do these missing scenes actually exist? (2022 thread)

My memory isn’t that bad, is it? (in SW '77 - Luke misses with the grappling hook?) (2006 thread)

^ the ‘The Scene Changes; the alterations of various scenes over the years…’ section of An Index & Help Thread for Theatrical Cuts vs. Subsequent Releases in Theatrical Cuts vs. Subsequent Releases may also be of interest.

 
 

These two mini-indexes of OT•com discussion threads covering ‘Han vs Greedo’ & ‘Anakin’s force ghost’ may be of some interest:-
 

A mini-index of dedicated OT•com threads on the subject of Han vs Greedo / Han Shoots First in Star Wars (2019)
 
 

A mini-index of dedicated OT•com threads on the subject of Anakin Skywalker’s Force Ghost in Return Of The Jedi (2020)

 

 

 

 

 

Plot Holes, Inconsistencies, Contradictions, Disconnects, Mental Gymnastics, Stretches etc - between the Original Trilogy and other Star Wars releases…

Discussion Threads which highlight and discuss plot holes, discrepancies & contradictions etc - between the OT and later GFFA content.

 

This category can be found in the…

Plot holes, inconsistencies, contradictions, disconnects, mental gymnastics, stretches etc (Original Trilogy vs later Star Wars)

…section of the An Index & Help Thread for General Star Wars Discussion
 

Original Trilogy vs The Prequels: inconsistencies, retcons, plot holes and discrepancies… ‘50+ issues’ list may also be of interest.
 

Obviously, everyone’s mileage may vary on what is considered a discrepancy etc - or not - and just how much of an issue each one is…

If you have any suggestions for more relevant threads to be added to the linked category above, please let us know or post them in that linked thread above. Thank you.

 

 

 

Some threads highlighting ‘pre-PT era’ lore & history - before the Prequel films retconned it & introduced new lore…

 
Pre-PT era lore | an OT & EU scrapbook resource | additional info & sources welcome (2024 thread)

Wars, organizations, relationships, and galactic history before the Prequels (2019 thread)

Putting The Original-Original Trilogy’s Prequel Story together (2008 thread)

The Prequels as Envisioned by the (Pre-PT) Expanded Universe (2012 thread)

What if The Prequels were based on the Pre-PT EU and were more “OT Accurate”? (2023 thread)

How the EU and the OT described Anakin, Palpatine and the Jedi Knights before the PT films? (2023 thread)

Implied starting date of the Empire from OT dialogue (2015 thread; + character ages + when certain events took place…)

Star Wars Prequels were mapped out in 1981, only nothing like the way they turned out (2013 thread)

What if the Prequels were made in the 80’s? (2022 thread)

Star Wars in the '90s? (2009 thread)

Interesting Hypothesis of the Prequels Story from the Mid 90’s (2005; ‘Looking Back To The Future Of Star Wars’, by John L. Flynn)

What did we all expect from the Prequel Trilogy? (2004 thread)

How did you envision the Prequels? (2007 thread)

What were your original expectations for the PT? (2007 thread)

How did you imagine The Star Wars Prequels before they came out? (2011 thread)

What did you think the Clone Wars were gonna be? (2005 thread)

How did you imagine the Emperor taking over? (2005 thread)

The Jedi Purge | a general discussion (2024 thread)

Did you think Dagobah was Yoda’s homeworld before the Prequels were made? (2022 thread)

How you pictured Anakin pre-PT (2015 thread)

“You don’t know the power of the dark side! I must obey my master” (2005 thread; OT dialogue vs PT events)

Shrinking Star Wars? (2011 thread)

Did G. Lucas ever intend to portray the Jedi as a flawed institution in the Prequels? Or was it added later in the EU? (2021)

Original Trilogy vs The Prequels: inconsistencies, retcons, plot holes and discrepancies… (2021 thread; ‘50+ issues’ list)
 

^ The Star Wars Universe: OT & EU - Life & Lore before the Prequels (the PT ushering in George’s ‘nu-SW rules’ and more retcons)’ …category of An Index Thread for General Star Wars Discussion may also be of interest for more information and discussion.

 

 

 

 

Characters and Actors…

 

 

Star Wars Names - Star Wars character names thread

Star Wars character’s names - includes your own Star Wars name & name generator

How Star Wars names are translated in non-english countries…

Best Performance by an Actor/Actress in the Star Wars Movies

Best Performance in the Original Trilogy

Strong Female characters in the Star Wars universe

The Worst Star Wars Characters

The Significance of British Accents in Star Wars

Voice dubbing in the first film

Have any of the actors from the original movies ever commented on the Prequels?

What Type of Hero do you Prefer? the Han Solo type? Luke Skywalker type? or Princess Leia type?

Favourite non Star Wars roles for Star Wars actors

What actor/actress would you like to see in new Star Wars Movies? - a 2013 thread (pre Sequel Trilogy)

Which Star Wars actors have you met?
 

The problem of Owen Lars (and more)

Who could Uncle Owen hand a serious bare knuckle beating to?

Phil Brown (Uncle Owen) passes away at 89

Voice dubbing in the first film (+ discussion on Shelagh Fraser as Aunt Beru and voice dubbing)

Beru’s voice
 

• Mark Hamill - A Force to be Reckoned With thread : Great interview : Happy Birthday Mark Hamill - September 25th

Ages of Luke & Leia

Luke’s rope-throwing talents in EP4

How did Luke not know Vader was his old man?

You’ve Failed, Your Highness

What is Luke’s goal in ROTJ?

Luke vs Han

• Carrie Fisher - on NPR : Aus interview : Wishful Drinking 2011 DVD : 2016 heart attack thread : RIP thread

Carrie Fisher on SNL 1978 (2008 thread) : Carrie Fisher should turn her AFI speech into a standup act! (2005 thread)

Leia’s Metal Bikini (2005 thread)

Carrie Fisher as Princess Leia in the Gold Bikini (2012 thread)

Cardboard Leia (2006 thread)

My Little Slave Leia Pony

Princess Leia hair and make up possibility

Leia’s Role in the Rebellion

Why is Leia a princess?

About Princess Leia and Full Names

Princess Leia

What do you think? What the hell was Leia doing at Tatooine at the start of ANH?!

Why is Princess Leia the only main character who gets shot by the otherwise aim impaired Storm Troopers?

Should Princess Leia have gotten a medal in A New Hope?

Anyone else totally disregard Leia being Luke’s sister?

Why Leia remembers Padme but Luke doesn’t

Harrison Ford had affair with Carrie Fisher when she was in her prime!! (2009 thread)

• Harrison Ford - on the Holiday Special

Was Han Solo stupid?

Is han solo the best star wars character in the world?

When Han Solo was Frozen in Carbinite How did he survive so long without Water?

What is the symbolic nature behind the Han Solo/Lando Calrissean “It’s Not My Fault!” line?

What exactly did Han pull?

Who hear thinks Jedi would have been more dramatic if Han Solo died? (in ROTJ)
 

• Peter Mayhew - Tweeting Star Wars “Journal of the Whills” script

Chewie’s Debt

‘Yesterday Was A Lie’ film

It’s not wise to upset a Wookiee

Remembering Peter Mayhew (2019 thread)
 

• Kenny Baker - Where is Kenny Baker on Ep7?

^ scroll down to the ‘Creatures, Droids and Aliens…’ section below for more threads.
 

• Anthony Daniels - Anthony Daniels (2004 thread)

^ scroll down to the ‘Creatures, Droids and Aliens…’ section below for more threads.
 

• Billy Dee Williams - Thread Title Has Billy Dee Williams In It

What reason is there BDW hasn’t been announced for 8 or 9?

The sexy Bill Will (Billy Dee Williams) Thread!!!

Star Wars and “betrayal” - Han / Lando discussion
 

Obi-Wan = OB-1?

How did Obi-Wan get so much money?

Alec Guinness
 

• Frank Oz - Yodaspeak: A Study In Yoda’s Speaking Patterns and Their Frequency in the Star Wars Movies

Yoda: CGI vs Puppet
 

Dave Prowse 1935-2020

David Prowse - What’s the beef with?

Actor of Darth Vader’s bald head in ESB

'78 interview with David Prowse [spoilers] - he reveals Vader is Luke’s father

LucasFilm Tells David Prowse that Return of the Jedi Hasn’t Made a Profit!?

• Sebastian Shaw - Sebastian Shaw Dot Com

Why Sebastian Shaw is better…

Was Sebastian Shaw the wrong choice for Anakin? (2021 thread)

James Earl Jones

How you pictured Anakin pre-PT (2015 thread)

What Luke’s father and Darth Vader would have been like had Lucas kept them separate? (2023 thread)

Vader not Luke’s Dad… imagine! (2012 thread)

The unmasking of Vader and Richard Marquand (2010 thread)

Darth Vader’s Psyche: What Went Wrong (2007 thread)

What would Darth Vader have been like as a ruler, if he had overthrown emperor palpatine and became the emperor/ruler of the galaxy himself?? (2012 thread)

Darth Vader isn’t calm in the original trilogy; he has always been very emotional (2020 thread)
 

Peter Cushing
 

All the actors who played the Emperor???

Sheev

Ian McDiarmid

Ian McDiarmid’s performance in the PT (also the OT) is memorable and absolutely enthralling (2007 thread)

When and why did Lucas decide to make The Emperor a Force-user? (2022 thread)

Emperors Head Slugs??? (2006 thread; re the ROTJ ‘slugs’ on the Emperor’s face in certain shots)

Clive Revill
 

• Warwick Davis - Return Of The Ewok - preservation : Return of the Ewok on Hyperspace

• Denis Lawson - Emmy nomination thread : That’s impossible, even for a computer voice dub thread

Wedge Antilles (Denis Lawson & Colin Higgins), ‘Col Takbright’ and Deepfakes

That’s impossible, even for a computer (2017 thread - re Wedge…)

• John Hollis - aka Lobot: RIP

• Richard LeParmentier Admiral Motti Has Passed Away

Kathleen (Koo) Stark Interview - aka ‘Camie’; a character cut from Star Wars '77

Original Trilogy Film Crew & People Behind The Scenes: Profiles, Info & Links… (2019 thread)

_Useful Website: ‘Star Wars Interviews’ - https://starwarsinterviews.com & https://twitter.com/StarWarsINTRVWS_

Useful Website: ‘Star Wars Actor Current Appearances’ - http://starwarsactorappearances.blogspot.com
 

Just For Info (despite appearing in the Prequel Trilogy and more suited to ‘Beyond The Original Trilogy’ section)

• Ewan McGregor - Interview in Playboy

Christopher Lee

 

 

 

 

Creatures, Droids and Aliens…

 

 

Star Wars: The Costume Thread

The Darth Vader costume changes

Darth Vader’s suit (2016 thread)

Monsters

What’s Your Favorite Version of the Krayt Dragon Call?

The Krayt Dragon Call

sandpeople - under the mask what do they look like?

The original ending of Ponda Baba

Whose arm? (Cantina Scene - with input from Lorne Peterson)

Tortured…droids?

3DSF.info - some insightful info on building the Droids for the Original Trilogy (2019 post)

IG-88

“Bounty Hunter”?

Bossk. Bounty Hunter. Ladies man!!!

We don’t need their scum

Mandalorian questions (2009 thread)

Full Scale Rancor Build - Teaser Trailer Documentary

Do you think the Sarlacc monster Force sensitive?

What happened to Rotta?

Where did the Mon Calamari come from?

Emperors Head Slugs???

I’m drawing a STAR WARS character every day for the rest of November

The Worst Star Wars Characters

Favorite Villain in the OT

Same actor in Star Wars?
 

R2D2…

3DSF.info - some insightful info on building the Droids for the Original Trilogy (2019 post)

R2D2’s Beeps in Return of the Jedi

R2D2’s gender

R2D2: Secret leader of the rebellion

R2 doesn’t taste very good

R2 left out in the rain on degobah
 

C3PO…

“Oh, Thank the Maker!”

Does C-3PO have feelings?

R2D2 & C3PO Introductions to Ep4-6?
 

Chewbacca…

Let’s talk about Chewbacca

Chewie’s Debt

Anyone else totally disregard Lumpy being Chewbaccas’s son?

Wookies vs Ewoks in ROTJ
 

Stormtroopers…

So, are all the Stormtroopers from IV-VI clones?.. (2005 thread; yes, yes they were…)

All Stormtroopers with Jango’s voice (2004 thread)

"And these blast points,

The Infamous “Stormtrooper Aim” Explained With Science

Scientific evidence as to why the Stormtroopers had miserable aim (and why the good guys had nearly flawless aim)

Only Imperial Stormtroopers… etc.

“Close the blast doors”

Do you have a favourite stormtrooper?

Imperial “battle defection” theme (something I would like to see more of)
 

Greedo…

Greedo

Han vs Greedo

An exact quote from Lucas on Greedo shooting first

Question: Why is Greedo different?

A mini-index of dedicated OT•com threads on the subject of Han vs Greedo / Han Shoots First in Star Wars (2019)
 

Sandpeople…

sandpeople under the mask - what do they look like?
 

Yoda…

Yoda: CGI vs Puppet

Really creepy Puppet Yoda…

the origin of yoda’s name

Did you think Dagobah was Yoda’s homeworld before the Prequels were made? (2022 thread)

What species is Yoda anyway?

Yodaspeak: A Study In Yoda’s Speaking Patterns and Their Frequency in the Star Wars Movies

Was Yoda crazy?

Should Vader and The Emperor even know who Yoda is?

OT: No Lightsabres for Yoda or The Emperor

Yoda and Palpatine NEVER should have been given lightsabers

Yoda Movie
 

Boba Fett…

RIP Jeremy Bulloch, 1945-2020

Jason Wingreen has died (original voice of Boba Fett)

Jason Wingreen, disintegrated from history by Lucasfilm, for their new doc on Boba Fett (2021 thread)

Did Boba Survive?

Fett’s “Death” in ROTJ

why do people like boba fett?

Why Boba Fett is now bunk

Why does Boba shoot at Luke in ESB?

Boba Fett

Dark Horse Kills Boba Fett

BOBA LIVES!!!

BOBA FETT WAS LUKE’S MOM?

The Boba Fett movie
 

Jabba…

Who Designed The CGI Jabba In The 1997 Special Edition? (2017 thread)

The Surprisingly Strange Story of “Lapti Nek”

The Lapti Nek Appreciation Thread

Song In Jabba’s Palace

The lost song from Jabba’s palace

Question re Jabba

“The Hutts are gangsters!”

The Jabba Movie

• Categories 9 & 34 of the George Lucas: Star Wars Creator, Unreliable Narrator & Time Travelling Revisionist thread

• There are some Jabba references and Jabba discussions in Complete Comparison of Special Edition Visual Changes
 

Ewoks…

In Defense of the Ewoks

Am I the only one who prefers the old ewok music?

Ewoks do what Ewoks do

101 Uses for an Ewok

‘Drunk’ Ewoks disrupt NBC’s ‘Today’ show

Ewok Films

 

 

 

 

Gadgets and Gizmos (lightsabers, blasters, clothing etc - inc food & drink)

 

 

Star Wars: The Costume Thread (2016)

Each Character’s Best Outfit (2023)

Darth Vader’s suit

When Han Solo was Frozen in Carbinite How did he survive so long without Water?

Did they really need Carbon freezing scene in ESB?

Hidden items in OT and other SW

Dejarik A.K.A. Holochess

Hoth Bacta tank

Which of these technologies (on this list) would be the HARDEST to create in Star Wars?

What type of food do Star Wars humans eat?

do bathrooms/toilets exist in the SWU? discuss

How do Star Wars people go to the bathroom?

VIDEO: 3D Han Solo Blaster Animation Video

The weapons that turned Owen and Beru into skeletons were (at least originally meant to be) stormtrooper blasters

Real lightsabers and “holograms”
 

Lightsabers…

What methods were used in coming up with the choreography of the lightsaber duels? (2020 thread)

another example of lucas changing things to appeal to a new generation lightsaber dueling styles of OT vs PT (2010 thread)

Original Trilogy: Luke’s lightsaber color (2015 thread)

Confused about O-OT Lightsaber Colors (2012 thread)

OT lightsaber colours (2019 thread; and some waffling on about the various colours used across the OT & Expanded Universe etc)

Original colour of Luke and Obiwan’s lightsabres (2011 thread)

what is the real blue color of the lightsabers cyan or dark blue? (2017 thread)

The Curse of the Blue Lightsaber (2004 thread)

Multiple Lightsaber Colour Appreciation Thread! (2012 thread; with images for many differing saber colours over time)

Best (and worst) lightsaber colour? (2016 thread)

Best (and worst) lightsaber design? (2016 thread)

the lightsaber (2018 thread)

lightsaber ambient light (2011 thread)

Lightsaber Goofs… (2006 thread)

 

 

 

 

Ships and Vehicles…

 

 

Fantastic Interview with Colin Cantwell, Original Star Wars Prototypist! (2014 thread)

1975 Ship Models - Visible for 1st time - by Colin Cantwell (2019 thread)

Ship identification help (2017 thread)

Kitbashed : Origins of Star Wars website; with some great articles on ships & vehicles - by Heilemann (2013 thread)

Aalenfae’s Star Wars Video Essays - aka ‘EC Henry’ youtube channel; many insightful videos on ships & vehicles in the GFFA

which ship would you wanna fly? (2005 thread)

X-Wing or Y-Wing, which ship would you prefer? (2006 thread)

Which is more probable? (2016; a ‘which ship’ type thread)

CGI and Digital or Real models and actors - what’s your preference? (2004 thread)

Discussing about scales of ships in star wars (2009 thread)

The Toys That Made Us. A documentary series (2018 thread)
 

Rare McQuarrie Sandcrawler drawing? (2011 thread)

ANH - Skyhopper scenes (2017 thread)

What happened to the original Tantive IV model? (2020 thread)

X-wing Ejection (2010 thread)

The X-wing atmospheric functionality (2018 thread)

how can the X-wing land if realistic physics (2019 thread)

T-65 X-wing cockpit (2015 thread)

B-Wings in ROTJ, editing epiphany (2011; Rebel pilots & cut DSII battle scenes - info and chat)

Was there a scene with a Snowspeeder crashing into the cockpit of an AT-AT in ESB? (2015 thread)

Building the Millennium Falcon - 10 Minute short film screened in Wales Pembrookshire (2016 thread)

Ship of Riddles (2005; website with in-depth analysis of the Millennium Falcon and its layout)

Build the Millennium Falcon - New magazine (2014 thread)

3DSF.info - some insightful info on building the Droids for the Original Trilogy (2021 thread; includes info on the Falcon too)

When Should we see the Falcons Mandibles out the window? (2015 thread)

Creating the Worlds of Star Wars - 365 Days, by John Knoll (was: Millennium Falcon Exterior Sets) (2010 thread)

The Millenium Falcon and its missing conceptual development (2011 thread)

The Tie Fighter Sound (2018 thread)

getting in and out of TIE fighter (2011 thread)

Purple TIE Fighters (2010 thread)

The TIE Fighter Pilot Who Saved The Day in ‘Star Wars’ (2010 thread)

my tie interceptor model (2009 thread)

Anyone fancy a full size Scout Walker? (2013 thread)

Real-life ‘Imperial Walkers’ coming to a galaxy near you… (2008 thread)

Why did the rebels destroy the AT-AT walker on Hoth in episode 5??? (2012 thread)

The original inspiration for Star Destroyers? (2008 thread)

That thing, you know, under a star destroyer… (2012 thread)

A Question on Imperial Lasers (2012 thread)

Show us the Death Star II construction (2022 thread)

• Slave I / Slave 1 / Slave One (no thread or love for Boba’ Fett’s iconic and cool ship?)
 

Best battle of the Original Trilogy? (2006 thread)

Your Favorite type of space battle… (2015 thread)

Shields? (2011 thread)

The Star Wars model building showing-off thread! - Post your pictures or kits, figures, dioramas that you’ve done (Or are working on) (2013 thread)

Advanced Star Wars Origami (2012 thread)

Man builds 140 foot Battle of Hoth diorama in his living room! (2013 thread)

ship guide for sci-fi geeks (2004 thread)

 

 

 

 

Settings, Places and Planets (including Systems and Death Stars etc)

 

 

Visited some Star Wars filming sites

Save the Lars Homestead

Lars Homestead Restoration

Buttercup Valley, Arizona 1982 - Pics! it did happen!

Shrinking Star Wars?

Visuals/Origins of the SW 1974 Rough Draft (image heavy)

Pre-MaQuarrie “illustrations” for Star Wars (NASA, Flash Gordon, Frazetta, etc.)

The Visual Design of SW

Ralph McQuarrie SW Art Site

The Man Who LITERALLY Built Star Wars - re Roger Christian

How long to Alderaan from Tatooine?

How big was Anchorhead during the OT? (2022 thread)

Anyone else prefering the way buildings on Tatooine looked like, before the SE and the Prequels? (2022 thread)

Why was Luke so impressed when he saw Mos Eisley for the first time? Anchorhead doesn’t seem to be much smaller

How do long distance communication work in the star wars universe?

What are all the given figures for hyperdrive speed?

Reimagining the OT with more realistic space physics (2023 thread)

Have Star Wars planets been mapped?

the academy luke wants to go to

 

The battle of Yavin… (2010 thread)

The battle of Yavin (2008 thread)

The Battle of Yavin (2004 thread)

Two questions about the Battle of Yavin

newtonian star wars, Death Star assault

The Death Star trench run

The death star (2005 thread)

The Death Star

Death Star Attack Power Point (2006 thread)

Info: Construction of the CGI death star in Star Wars (youtube video) (2008 thread)

Info: Making of the Computer Graphics for Star Wars - Larry Cuba (YouTube) (2008 thread)

Animating the Death Star Trench Circa April 1978 (2011 thread)

Details about the making of the Death Star CGI in ANH & ROTJ (2024 thread)

DS detention block hallway (2011 thread)

The Death Star’s Destruction (A Inside Job?) (2013 thread)

A true conspiracy, why don’t we have answers (2007 thread; re the Death Star explosion)

Do you think Grand Moff Tarkin survived the Death Star Explosion?

Build your own death star

In Defense of Death Star II

Show us the Death Star II construction

Imperial Bureaucracy (re the two Death Stars)

The battle of Endor

Victory Celebration

 

About the cave on Dagobah…

Jedi Temple In ROTJ!?

Jabba the Hutt Strategy (the setting and plan for the rescue of Han Solo)

Your first impression of “The Clone Wars”

What did you think the Clone Wars were gonna be?

Your Weather Forecast - via Star Wars Planets

Worlds with Double Sunsets Common

Sets

Why would starfields have been shot on colour film stock?

 

 

 

 

The Force; The Light, The Dark Side, the in-between, and the mystery…

with Midichlorians and Anakin’s fall to the dark side…

 

 
Including discussions on the dissonance between the Jedi of the Original Trilogy era vs Prequels & since… (1976-1998 vs 1999-present)
 

Lucas’ Inspirations for Star Wars

Bushido of Star Wars

The Jedi Purge | a general discussion (2024 thread)

Ignorance in the Star Wars Galaxy - the Jedi being forgotten within 20 years…

Do you think the average citizen of the Star Wars galaxy would even be aware of the Force?

Personal Opinions on the Nature of the Force

Questions about the The Force & the SW universe

What was George talking about here? In his conversation with Alan Dean Foster? - re The Force in ESB

Inconsistent use of “the force”

Frivolous use of the Force

Unused force ability?

Force Speed question?

How did Vader deflect those shots?

“explanations” about Vader (2009 thread)

Help me settle an argument: does Luke use the ‘force choke’?

“You don’t know the power of the dark side! I must obey my master”

How you pictured Anakin pre-PT (2015 thread)

Luke VS the Emperor- What if Vader hadn’t been there?

In 30 years why do you think Emperor… never taught Vader how to do the lightning? (2016 thread)

When and why did Lucas decide to make The Emperor a Force-user? (2022 thread)

What would Darth Vader have been like as a ruler, if he had overthrown emperor palpatine and became the emperor/ruler of the galaxy himself??
 

The Jedi…

Your favorite Jedi? (2011 thread)

“I was ONCE (emphasis mine) a Jedi Knight, the same as your father.” (2007 thread)

Is Obi-Wan a Jedi Master or a Jedi Knight? (2016 thread)

Who Was Obi Wan Kenobi’s Real Master? (2014 thread)

Original Trilogy vs The Prequels: inconsistencies, retcons, plot holes and discrepancies… (2021 unfinished ‘50+ topics list’ thread)

Are the Jedi so good? (2011 thread)

When did the Jedi become monks? (2007 thread)

Were the Jedi supposed to not be allowed to get married, have children or any possessions when the OT was made? (2023)

What Luke’s father and Darth Vader would have been like had Lucas kept them seperate? (2023 thread)

At what point did Tatooine robes become Jedi uniforms? (2023 thread)

Multiple Lightsaber Colour Appreciation Thread! (2012 thread; with images for many differing saber colours in the OT era alone)

OT lightsaber colours (2019 thread; and some waffling on about the various colours used across the OT & Expanded Universe etc)

^ More Lightsaber discussions can be found in the ‘Gadgets & Gizmos’ section of An Index Thread for ‘Original Trilogy Discussion’

how long does it take to train a jedi? (2005 thread)

Do the Jedi steal children? (2007 thread)

Too Old (2004 thread)

On Jedi and Attachment (2022 thread)

the next generation of Jedi (2010 thread; Jedi offspring, reproduction, attachments etc)

Punishment for committing Adultery if you are a Jedi…?? (2005 thread)

jedi spirits (2006 thread; EU spirit possession etc)

I’ve given this a lot of thought, and I’ve decided this makes no sense. (Qui-Gon and Anakin’s ghosts.) (2006 thread)

Why Didn’t Qui Gon Gin’s Body Disappear Like Obiwan’s and Yoda’s? (2017 thread)

Yoda & Emperor PT vs OT (2005 thread)

The Jedi of the PT (2014 thread)

ROTS: The Jedi Now Seen In A Different Light… (2005 thread)

I hate the Jedi (2019 thread; the disconnect between OT & PT Jedi)

What if The Prequels were based on the Pre-PT EU and were more “OT Accurate”? (2023 thread)

Did Lucas ever intend to portray the Jedi as a flawed institution in the Prequels? Or was it added later in the EU? (2021 thread)

Who is the greatest Jedi of all time? (Dave Filoni says it is Anakin Skywalker. Is he?) (2023 thread)

A mini-index of OT.com threads on the subject of Anakin Skywalker’s Force Ghost in Return Of The Jedi (2020 thread)
 

The ‘Life & Lore in the Star Wars universe’ section of An Index for General Star Wars Discussion may also feature more discussion about the Jedi - and the Force…
 

Fun / light-hearted Force & Jedi content…

The Force-O-Meter

What kind of Jedi are you?

How much of a Jedi are you?

Your Jedi name?

 
 

The Fall of Anakin Skywalker to the Dark Side / Vader being seduced by the power of the Dark Side…

 
“You don’t know the power of the dark side! I must obey my master” (2005 thread)

Anakin’s fall - did it really need three films or could it have been done in one? (2005 thread; pre-ROTS)

For those who are familiar with it, what do you think of the fan script of “Fall of the Republic”? (2023 thread)

Interesting Hypothesis of the Prequels Story from the Mid 90’s (2005 thread; John L Flynn’s ‘Fall Of The Republic’ fan-script)

^ John L Flynn’s ‘fan-lore’ script: 1983’s Fall of the Republic & 1994’s Looking Back to the Future of Star Wars & his other works

How did you imagine The Star Wars Prequels before they came out? (2011 thread)

Fall to the Dark Side? (2007 thread)

One of the flaws with Anakin turning to the darkside… (2009 thread)

Anakin’s fall to the Dark Side (2011 thread)

Anakin’s official history (2015 thread)

Help: looking for… ideas on fixing Anakin’s fall to the darkside (2019 thread)

Anakin Skywalker’s turn to the dark side; your alternatives? (2021 thread)

How would you restructure Anakin’s turn to the dark side in the Prequels? (2022 thread)

The Turn: A History of the Evolution of Anakin’s Downfall - from ‘The Secret History Of Star Wars’, by Michael Kaminski (zombie84)

^ Pages 202-207 of the “Making of Star Wars: Revenge Of The Sith” book, by JW Rinzler, also chronicles the late re-writing & re-editing.

 
 

Midichlorians (+ the failed retcon attempt of them ‘having always been there’ in the GFFA, & their invention for the Prequels)

 
Lucas’ EU in 1977 (midi-chlorians, space gypsies & crystal currency) (George retcons history re midichlorians)

Proof of Lucas’ revisionism in Rinzler’s making-of book? (George retcons history to try and make midichlorians a thing in 1977)

Midicholorians (2005 thread)

Less Offensive Midichlorians (2008 thread)

Anakin’s Father… (2005 thread)

Who is Anakin’s father? (2021 thread)

Midichlorians versus Life Day: which is worse? (2011 thread)

Star Wars Prequels were mapped out in 1981, only nothing like the way they turned out (2013 thread)

Other than Jar Jar and midichlorians, what don’t you want in episode 7? (2014 thread)

Who are the Whills? (2014 thread)

Midichlorians Are Not The Force (2021 thread)

Question about PT to OT continuity (2004 thread; re midichlorians)

George Lucas’ comments re his Sequel Trilogy (supposedly re the macrobiotic world and midichlorians, with more retcons)

George Lucas’s Sequel Trilogy (2020 thread; with midichlorians + more retcons; Leia now being ‘The Chosen One’ instead)

Connection between the Telomere tail of human DNA and midi-chlorians? (2012 thread)

^ the reason Midichlorians feature in ‘Original Trilogy Discussion’ is due to Lucas’ attempt to retcon them into early Star Wars history.

 

 

 

 

Media Threads…

Threads re News, Images, Posters, Captions, Gifs, Videos, and other similar info etc (most are OT based; some threads feature the wider GFFA)

 

 

Original Trilogy news & articles thread - online pieces on the OT films, the cast and crew (2023 thread)

Star Wars News - articles that may not have enough interest for their own threads (2018 thread; in ‘General SW Discussion’)

Star Wars internet Rabbit holes (2018 thread)

The random Pics & GIFs thread for the Original Trilogy (2020 thread)

Star Wars (1977) - ‘Behind The Scenes / Making Of’ images thread

Empire Strikes Back - ‘Behind The Scenes / Making Of’ images thread

Return Of The Jedi - ‘Behind The Scenes / Making Of’ images thread

The Random Star Wars Pics & GIFs Thread (in ‘General Star Wars Discussion’ section)

Star Wars Memes

Awesome Star Wars art (pic heavy!! (in ‘General Star Wars Discussion’ section)

Star Wars Posters - In the style of other movies (And LP mashups too)

What Star Wars art or posters do you have on your wall? (or would you like?) (2020 thread, in ‘Toys & Memorabilia’)

Favorite Star Wars posters (2006 thread)

Thoughts on Star Wars Posters (2019 thread)

What’s the story of the Hildebrandt poster? (2012 thread)

Drew Struzan documentary - Drew: The Man Behind The Poster : Drew Struzan? No thanks

Japanese Star Wars art

The Case Covers, Disc Labels, and Fan Art section of the site - and the Index for it - also contains a LOT of art & posters etc

General Star Wars Caption This (2005 thread; a lot of image links in here have since broken)

OTTO - Star Wars images with mirrored symmetry

Star Wars in “asciimation”
 

Videos…

Star Wars Trailers (2013 thread)

The Original Trilogy: Trailers/Promos thread (YouTube/Vimeo, etc. finds) (2020 thread)

The Original Trilogy: Making-Ofs & Documentaries thread (YouTube/Vimeo, etc. finds) (2019 thread)

The Original Trilogy: Random Videos thread (YouTube/Vimeo etc. finds (2020 thread)

YouTube/Vimeo/etc… Star Wars random video finds (2010 thread, in the ‘General Star Wars Discussion’ section)

WANTED: Original Trilogy TV spots (2014 thread)
 

THX Ultimate Demo Disc (2005 thread)

Star Wars references in other movies (2005 thread)

The Retro Star Wars Thread

How many times have you bought the movies? (2010 thread)

We have X in HD, but we still don’t have Star Wars (2017 thread)

An Index of OT•com threads on all things the Audio of the Original Trilogy (2020 thread)

Should Red Letter Media/Plinkett review the Special Editions? (2022 thread)

 

Original Trilogy ‘Documentaries’, ‘Behind The Scenes’, & ‘Making Ofs’ etc can be found in The Expanded Universe section of the OT•com.

List of Star Wars: Original Trilogy - Behind the Scenes Documentaries (2021 thread)

Guide to Star Wars Documentaries and Special Features (2020 thread; by Rodney-2187 - a comprehensive and useful thread)

“The People Vs. George Lucas” documentary… (2007 thread) : featuring some familiar faces…

 

 

 

 

Soundtracks / Music / Audio threads

 

 

Soundtracks / Music / Audio threads can be found in ‘The Expanded Universe’ forum of this site.

 
The ‘Soundtracks / Music / Audio threads’ section of An Index & Help Thread for The Expanded Universe will hopefully be useful and of some interest.
 

The reason why the ‘Soundtracks / Music / Audio threads’ are in the Expanded Universe forum is… an increasing number of soundtrack releases contain audio/music from across the Star Wars Saga (Episodes 1-6 or 1-9, or Solo & Rogue One etc), or from across the GFFA - so it was decided to keep all the soundtrack threads together… and in the smaller / easier-to-find EU forum.
 

The An Index of OT•com threads on all things the Audio of the Original Trilogy thread may also be of some help.

The Theatrical Cuts vs. Subsequent Releases forum is also useful for information and discussions on the differing sound mixes used down the years, as well as audio differences between 70mm and 35mm versions of the films etc.

 

 

 

 

Documentaries

 

 

Documentaries can be found in ‘The Expanded Universe’ forum of this site.

 
The ‘Documentaries’ section of An Index & Help Thread for The Expanded Universe will hopefully be useful and of some interest, in trying to help everyone find topics of interest and information a little more easily.
 

The reason why the ‘Documentaries’ threads are in the Expanded Universe forum is… an increasing number of documentary releases feature content from across the Star Wars Saga (Episodes 1-6 or 1-9, or Solo & Rogue One etc), or from across the GFFA (including tv series) - so it was decided to keep all the documentary threads together… in the smaller / easier-to-find EU forum.
 

These OT•com discussion threads for the two insightful & popular documentaries from 2022 may be of some interest…

Icons Unearthed - new 6 part documentary on the Original Trilogy (on VICE TV; including Marcia Lucas interview) (2022 thread)

• Light & Magic : ILM - Disney+ 6 part documentary series & George Lucas and ILM Docuseries Coming from Lawrence Kasdan

 

 

 

 

Anniversaries | 40th | 50th | + other anniversaries and ‘Star Wars Days’…

 

 

Star Wars at 40…

 
Celebration 2017 Speculation

Star Wars Insider celebrates the 40th anniversary with…

Our open letter to Disney and Lucasfilm

Star Wars 40th Reunion

40 at 40: Interviews from the 40th anniversary reunion on May 27th, 2017

Marcia Lucas Speaks!
 

Some more info from the 40th Anniversary Celebration of Star Wars (both feature videos and interviews by surviving members of those involved making the film - as well as Empire and Jedi):-

www.32ten.com/celebrating-star-wars-at-forty

https://vimeo.com/athenastudios (video interviews with many of crew members from the Original Trilogy films)
 

Star Wars - at 40 - OT•com discussion thread.

StarWars•com’s Star Wars at 40 website portal.

The Empire Strikes Back - at 40 - OT•com discussion thread.

StarWars•com’s Empire Strikes Back at 40 website portal.

Return Of The Jedi - at 40 - OT•com discussion thread.

StarWars•com’s Return Of The Jedi at 40 website portal.

 

Star Wars at 50…

 
Lucasfilm at 50 (2021 thread; with Lucasfilm being founded in 1971)

Star Wars at 50 - 2027; the 50th anniversary of the 1977 Star Wars film - OT•com discussion thread (to be created; anyone?)

StarWars•com’s Star Wars at 50 website portal; (coming soon to the official Star Wars website in 2027!)

 

Some other Anniversaries and ‘Star Wars Day’ type threads…

 
Happy Birthday, OriginalTrilogy.com - now 20 years old (as of 10th March, 2023) (2004 thread)
 

• Life Day - When do you celebrate Life Day? (2021 thread)
 

Star Wars 45th Anniversary; 5-25-2022 - 25th May (2021 thread)

10th Anniversary Edition in 1987? Was anything released or done? - 25th May (2005 thread)

Remembering the 10th Anniversary - 25th May (2017 thread)

Happy 30th Anniversary, Star Wars! - 25th May (2007 thread)

Happy 35th Star Wars!!! - 25th May (2012 thread)

Star Wars: 30th Anniversary (2007 - New Box-set) (2006 thread)

STAR WARS CELEBRATION IV in Los Angeles - May 24-28 2007 (2006 thread; 30th Anniversary)

What 30th Anniversary? (2007 thread)

Star Wars: The Best of 2007 (Looking Back at 30 Years) (2007 thread)

Celebrating 30 years of Empire (2010 thread)

Where were you in '83? ROTJ 30th anniversary 5/25/83-5/25/13 - 25th May (2013 thread)

10th Anniversary of the “GOUT” dvd release (2016 thread)

10 years of the Special Editions (2007 thread)

25 Years of the Special Edition (2022 thread)

Happy Birthday, Star Wars!!! - 25th May (2005 thread)

Happy Anniversary Star Wars! - 25th May (2008 thread)

It was thirty seven years ago today… - 25th May (2014 thread)
 

May 4th be with you! - 4th May (2004 thread)

May the 4th be with you!! - 4th May (2006 thread)

May the 4th Be With You - How are you Celebrating? - 4th May (2014 thread)

Watching all three Original Star Wars films on “May The Fourth Be With You” Day - 4th May (2021 thread)

Subtle May 4th - 4th May (2015 thread)

Happy Star Wars Day - 4th May? / 25th May? (2016 thread)

 

 

 

 

 
 

Fandom Discussion Threads…

Info : Thoughts : Questions : Viewing the films : Your love of the Original Trilogy : What the unaltered OT means to you : this site…

• General Fandom Discussion threads; random thoughts, favourite moments, retro & nostalgia, rabbit holes, your love of the OT…
• Watching the Original Trilogy for the first time - and introducing the next generation…
• ❗❕ Threads highlighting efforts for an official release of the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy… ❕❗
• Other websites supposed issues with the OT•com - or the Original Trilogy - or the unaltered theatrical versions…

 

For more info on the OT•com site, our goal, the successful petition at the time… please also read the Sites and Publications Supporting the Petition section, as well as the Original Trilogy Discussion & Theatrical Cuts vs. Subsequent Releases forums from around that era.

 

These five threads below also provide a general overview for the history and goal of this site, Lucasfilm acknowledging the “overwhelming demand” by the “truly countless number of fans” for a quality release of the unaltered theatrical cuts. The resulting substandard ‘GOUT bonus disc’ DVD release in 2006… and Lucasfilm staying silent - ignoring the fans - on the issue ever since…

An OriginalTrilogy.com Timeline | a history of the site | the why & how it came to be…

Some useful OT.com threads re the suppression of the unaltered theatrical cuts of the Original Trilogy films

The 'Naysayer Guide’ by people who DON’T want an unaltered theatrical release of the Original Trilogy…

#ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy | OriginalTrilogy•com’s enduring goal | How you can help… ❗

George Lucas: Star Wars Creator, Unreliable Narrator & Time Travelling Revisionist…
 
 

 

General Fandom Discussion threads…

 
Star Wars (1977) - a General Random Thoughts thread (2020 thread)

The Empire Strikes Back - a General Random Thoughts thread (2020 thread)

Return Of The Jedi - a General Random Thoughts thread (2020 thread)

The Original Trilogy - a General Random Thoughts thread (2020 thread)

General Star Wars Random Thoughts Thread (2011 thread)

General Star Wars Questions (2017 thread)

What’s everybody’s favorite Original Trilogy movie - Star Wars, Empire, or Jedi? (2020 thread)

What is your main way of watching the Original Trilogy? (2020 thread)

What do you think was the best release of the OT at the time it came out? (2011 thread)

The Retro Star Wars Thread (2016 thread)
 

What Star Wars has meant to you (2006 thread)

That Feeling (2004 thread; on the magic of Star Wars)

What feels most Star Wars (2017 thread)

Fondest Memory from the OT Days (2005 thread)

How has Star Wars aged with you? (2010 thread)

Is Star Wars “Better Than It’s Ever Been”? (2018 thread)

When/Why did you become an OT purist? (2012 thread)
 

Star Wars internet Rabbit holes (2018 thread; members’ favourite / absorbing / intriguing Star Wars websites)

The random Pics & GIFs thread for the Original Trilogy (2020 thread)

Any Star Wars TV stuff coming up? (2005 thread)

Science Fiction or Space Fantasy - what is Star Wars?

Favourite Scene from the Original Trilogy? (2019 thread)

Top 5 Moments in the Original Trilogy (2005 thread)

CGI and Digital or Real models and actors-whats your preference.? (2004 thread)

Things that you have always wondered about… (2006 thread)

Small details that took you FOREVER to notice in the Star Wars films (2019 thread)

Things you DISLIKE about the Original Trilogy (but not the Ewoks, Leia & Luke being siblings, Death Star 2 etc) (2022)

Most Baffling Complaint of a Star Wars Movie (2018 thread)

You know what’s better than Star Wars? (2008 thread)

Visited some Star Wars filming sites (2016 thread)

How often do you actually watch an entire Star Wars movie? (2013 thread)
 

The Phantom Star Wars Fan (2016 thread)

Permission to speak candidly? (a 2013 thread; re civility, tolerance and opinions…)

When did Star Wars stop being fun? (aka, the Anti-Correct Viewing Order thread) (2010 thread)

Star Wars fans - have you ever…? (2009 thread)

What kind of Star Wars Fan are you? (2014 thread)

Why we hate the prequels at OT forum - except a fair few here don’t… (2010 thread)

So why Define STAR WARS as OT OR PT? (2005 thread)

PT vs OT Scientific Study (2011 thread - highly scientific!!!)

Star Wars Trivia (2004 thread)

The vintage (and not so vintage) OOT T-shirt thread (2020 thread; more topics in ‘Clothing & Apparel’ in Toys & Memorabilia)

 

 

 

Watching the Original Trilogy for the first time - and introducing the next generation…

 
Space Adventures (Star Wars Day) - a 90 second video on how watching Star Wars changed our childhood imaginations forever…

Random memories from 1977-83 (2009 thread)

Fondest Memory from the OT Days (2005 thread)

Star Wars mania in 1977 (2012 thread)

What it was like to experience Star Wars for the first time in 1977? (2006 thread)

If you saw Star Wars in 1977, what do you remember? (2016 thread)

opinions (2008 thread - featuring thoughts from members who saw the OT at the cinema)

How did you first see the Star Wars films? (2014 thread)

What Do You Remember From Your First Viewing Of The OT? (2012 thread)

When you were introduced to Star Wars for the first time (2016 thread)

What was your first experience with Star Wars? (2004 thread)

A Long Time Ago… - Share Your Star Wars Story (2008 thread)

Trying to find where I saw Star Wars (2017 thread)

Is the theater where you saw Star Wars still standing? (2012 thread)

I want my kids to see the unaltered Original Trilogy in a real theater (2011 thread)

Adventures in Raising the Next Generation of Original Star Wars Fans (2011 thread)

Introducing Star Wars to young children (2017 thread)

Best viewing order to introduce Star Wars to children? (2019 thread)

What age should my kids watch Star Wars? (2010 thread)

Kids these days (2019 thread - watching the films with your kids etc)

Was star wars truly meant for children? (2011 thread)

Star Wars is for children. Adults: Stop being selfish (2009 thread)

The New Generation of Star Wars Fans (2014 thread)

An inclusive universe and a new generation of fans (2016 thread)

An Experiment in Inducting a Star Wars newbie (2011 thread)

How many times have you bought the movies? (2010 thread)

Which version/release of the Star Wars movies do you watch and why? (2011 thread)

What is your main way of watching the Original Trilogy? (2020 thread)

^ The ‘Home Releases and Formats of the differing versions of the Original Trilogy’ section may also be of interest (scroll down)

 

 

 

 

 

Threads highlighting efforts for a theatrical version release of the Original Trilogy

Every member joined, post and thread made on here, is part of the effort to highlight the wish for a release of the unaltered OT…

 

An OriginalTrilogy.com Timeline | a history of the site | the why & how it came to be…

Some useful OT.com threads re the suppression of the unaltered theatrical cuts of the Original Trilogy films (2020 thread)

The 'Naysayer Guide’ by people who DON’T want an unaltered theatrical release of the Original Trilogy… (2021 thread)

The 2006 DVD (GOUT) section of the ‘The Home Releases and Formats of the differing versions of the OT films…’ category, found below, is also an illuminating & insightful read for the events, history, Lucasfilm claims, and fan response around that time.

 

#ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy | doubleofive’s ‘Disney+ Should Offer the Star Wars Original Cuts’ article on the Wired website

^ A quality and comprehensive article on why the films are important to the people who grew up with them, why they wish to have the option to experience them as they originally were released - as well as preserving important and cultural film history for everyone to view and enjoy. A reminder that the various ‘Special Edition’ versions are NOT the award-winning, iconic, landmark & ground-breaking original version of the films. And highlights just why we are here - some of us for many years, and some just taking our first steps…

WIRED’s Article “Disney+ Should Offer the Star Wars Original Cuts”, doubleofive’s Magnum Opus (OT•com thread on ^ article)

#ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy | What We Want And How To Make It - a sequel piece by doubleofive to the above Wired article.

❗ #ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy | OriginalTrilogy•com’s enduring goal | How YOU can help… ❗

^ The OT•com supporting the #ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy campaign - the call for an official release of the unaltered theatrical version of the three classic Star Wars films films - and what YOU can do to help restore them to the galaxy. MTFBWY… Always.

 

Do you think Disney will release the unaltered versions for DVD and blu ray? (2012 thread; re Disney buying Lucasfilm)

What will be the next physical home media release of the Original Trilogy? (2021 thread)

Is the idea of Criterion putting the OT out on BR or 4K such a far-fetched concept now? (2022 thread)

Disney Plus should release all of the theatrical versions of the Star Wars movies on their stream service (2021 thread)

OOT release not in anyone’s plans… (2016 thread; according to Pablo Hildago of Lucasfilm, on twitter…)

Kathleen Kennedy Shuts Down any Hope for Unaltered Release (*not really) (2017 thread; her words being misconstrued)

I wish someone would ask Kathleen Kennedy about the original versions of the movies (2022 thread)

JJ Abrams mentions “Despecialized” - OUT not coming (2019 thread; JJ says he didn’t even understand Disney’s excuse why not…)

Articles & info that highlight / call for a classic version release of the Original Trilogy (2020 thread)

It seems like nobody involved in the making of the Original Trilogy has spoken up about George Lucas’ oppression of the unaltered theatrical version of the OT (2007 thread; now contains a list of Star Wars cast, crew, and execs who have spoken up…)

Original Trilogy Film Crew & People Behind The Scenes: Profiles, Info & Links… (2019 thread)

List of Academy Awards for The Original Trilogy - article by doubleofive. Includes content replaced in the various Special Editions.

The Lost Art of Star Wars - article by doubleofive. A gallery of shots where the original work for the theatrical version of the OT… is just gone. Some of it award-winning, some if it using technology they were sometimes inventing to complete, and all of it… film history.

• Award winning artist Harrison Ellenshaw gave a presentation at The Academy in 2019 on his matte paintings for the Star Wars Original Trilogy… but had to use footage from the Special Edition versions… where his work had actually been replaced over the years. (He appears at 76 minutes into the ‘Galactic Innovations’ video - though the whole 2+ hour video is well worth a watch.)

ANH screening with modelmaker Lorne Peterson… WHY ARE THEY SCREENING THE SE?? (circa 80% of the modelwork is missing)
 

The influence and Cultural significance of Star Wars? (2012 thread)

Star Wars, The Beatles, and the desecration of our cultural heritage (2004 thread)

David Gilmour: “No George Lucas Syndrome” (2006 thread)

Peter Jackson’s take on film-revisionism on the example of Lord of the Rings (2009 thread)

I thought the goal of this site was to get the original versions of The Star Wars Trilogy Episodes 4,5, and 6 on DVD and blu-ray

The OOT on DVD - then what? (2004 thread)

We have X in HD, but we still don’t have Star Wars (2017 thread)

Anywhere to keep up on news, or gossip about the archival editions coming? (2007 thread; they did not come…)

What can Be done to save the real original star wars trilogy from 1977-1983? (2009 thread)

There should be a proper release of the 1977 Star Wars at this point (2020 thread)

Is it Lucas, or Fox, who has prevented the restored OOT release? (2020 thread)

Evidence of OOT at Lucasfilm? (2006 thread)

What’s the status of the Originals? (the theatrical cuts of the Original Trilogy) (2013 thread)

4K restoration on Star Wars (a 2014 thread) - Reliance Media Works project on a 4K restoration of the OT films

^ As confirmed by various sources at Lucasfilm, Fox & Disney over the years - including George Lucas himself; all the material and elements required for a modern high quality release for the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy are indeed available. ^
 

Hey, did you hear they came out with a DVD for that “Star Wars” movie last year? (a 2008 ‘what if?’ thread)

New Gary Kurtz interview! (2006 thread - a spoof interview 😃)

Is George Lucas a fan of Star Wars? (2008 thread)

Nothing Past 1997 - A Fans Stand (2008 thread)

I just can’t watch Star Wars anymore… (2007 thread)

I will refuse to buy STAR WARS on bluray! (2010 thread)

Will you buy the OOT again ? (2006 thread)

How many times have you bought the movies? (2010 thread)

Disney+ streaming platform : Star Wars content & various other info (2019 thread)

Disney+ TV shows and the future of Star Wars on home video (2020 thread)

I want my kids to see the unaltered Original Trilogy in a real theater (2011 thread)

I’ll never understand the attitude of people who oppose the release of the unaltered original trilogy (2020 thread)

Why are people like this? (2023 thread; re some fans who do not want / believe the unaltered theatrical cuts can be restored)

❕ An Index & Help Thread for Theatrical Cuts vs. Subsequent Releases ❕ - in the ‘Theatrical Cuts vs. Subsequent Releases’ forum
 

“The People Vs. George Lucas” documentary… (2007 thread) : featuring some familiar faces…

How Lucas created the O-OT fanbase (2006 thread)

A More Civilized Age of Star Wars… Now an Evil Empire in Dark Times (2012 thread)

A message to the forum and the Star Wars fan community in general (2004 thread)

“I am wondering… why are you here?” (2011 thread)

Original Trilogy.com in the Press (2005 thread; with quotes from Lucasfilm PR re the OT•com and the OOT)

Original Trilogy.com’s own documentary? (2009 thread)

STAR WARS: Preserving a Saga - My attempt at a documentary film… (2018 thread - by Rikter)

Dear Lucasfilm: A Billboard (2016 idea thread)

Our open letter to Disney and Lucasfilm & Dear Disney (in 2017; for the 40th Anniversary - Disney & Lucasfilm did not respond)

FACEBOOK PAGE & Sticker Campaign (re the 2011 blu ray release)

Save Star Wars Dot Com (2010 thread)

Save Star Wars.com Posters (2014 thread)

Sometimes do you feel like you should give up on the cause? (2005 thread)

Are we part of a losing battle? (2011 thread)

We won! (4th May, 2006 thread)

OT.com Main Page Updated (8th May, 2006)

The Official Lucasfilm Response (23rd May, 2006 - the disingenuous claims from Lucasfilm as to their 2006 GOUT DVD release)

If Lucas did a proper OOT restoration for blu ray & dvd would he be forgiven for the Special Editions & the Prequels? (2009)

George Lucas: Star Wars Creator, Unreliable Narrator & Time Travelling Revisionist…

An OriginalTrilogy.com Timeline | a history of the site | the why & how it came to be…
 

^ Please help keep the above important threads updated, maintained and relevant. As well as still being fun & intriguing. Thanks. ^
 

For more info on the OT•com site and petition at the time… see the above content, the Sites and Publications Supporting the Petition section, as well as many threads in the Original Trilogy Discussion & Theatrical Cuts vs. Subsequent Releases forums around that era.

 

 

 

 

OTHER WEBSITES / COMMUNITIES SUPPOSED ISSUES WITH THE OT•COM - OR THE OT / UNALTERED OT…

 
How do others see the originaltrilogy•com community? (2012 thread)
 

A reminder that websites such as TFn and the official Star Wars forums etc were once places where site staff or moderators would threaten members with bans for simply discussing the unaltered theatrical cuts of the Original Trilogy - let alone highlighting some of Lucas’ / Lucasfilm’s disingenuous claims and conflicting statements, the re-writing of Star Wars history in official sources, constructive criticism of the Prequel Trilogy, or talking about the PT seemingly contradicting what was previously established in the OT, and so on…

Also, a number of preservationists, fan editors, and people making other fan-made projects (such as documentaries) over the years here on the OriginalTrilogy•com have received death threats, threats in general, and ‘threats to life’ - unless they ceased work on, or distribution of, their freely-available projects. These threats were made from other Star Wars fans / zealots who see such projects on here from this community… as somehow insulting or derogatory to George Lucas, the wider Star Wars fandom, or to their own beliefs.

Beliefs such as preservations of the unaltered theatrical versions of the Original Trilogy should no longer exist or be seen, or that fan edits desecrate George’s ‘vision’(s). Or fans seemingly deeply offended - even triggered to anger and threats - by cited articles, projects, and documentaries from fans here chronicling a more complete and accurate history of Star Wars… than that of the re-written, somewhat selective, and retconned version of history often found in official or licensed content and sources from Lucas / Lucasfilm.

OriginalTrilogy•com is a site to openly talk about the revered original cuts of the 3 iconic Star Wars films and its full, factual history.
 

We hope you enjoy your time on here - as thousands of others already have, currently do, and will - in the future to come. 👍

 

OT.com = TFN? (2006 thread)

When was the turning point for TF.NET? (2009 thread)

Understanding the saga - A perspective from T.F.N (2006 thread)

Sick of Star Wars Prequel bashing… (2014 thread: TFn)

TheForce.Net? Anything Wrong? (2006 thread)

Moving in from the Basher’s Sanctuary (2006 thread; re TFn - the censoring, suppression, and then purge of OOT fans from JCF)

^ “OT•com people are crazy”, “you guys are ungrateful”, “you guys are getting what you deserve”, “most people like the SE anyway”

Who’s worse, TFN or the official site, starwars.com? (2008 thread)

The new look official Star Wars site is up (2007 thread)

Starwars.com survey (2007 thread)

**** the official site (2008 thread)

Starwars.com closes its forums (2011 thread)

starwars.com 2011 purge (2011 thread)

StarWars.com Archive? (2012 thread)

Shut Down 2011 continues : Star Wars Galaxies (2011 thread)

Official Star Wars Facebook Page (2011 thread)

Hello I’m new and have a question (2007 thread; official Star Wars forums)

Has anyone noticed… (2004 thread; SW boards vs MF•com)

MagnoliaFan on MF.com (2005 thread)

Magnoliafag and Dickter (2005 thread: MF•com)

OT.com is so loved… (2004 thread: MF•com)

Fan Edits getting “trolled” by new kids on the block (2015 thread; MSW)

MF’s Report into MSW’s apparent actions (2015 thread; MSW & MF•com)

PrequelTrilogy.com - A new forum for a new era . . . (2016 thread)

The mirror universe originaltrilogy.com (2017 thread: PrequelTrilogy•com; an archived screenshot image here)

…and WE get the bad rap!!! (2011 thread; a different face of fandom - YouTube…)

What happened to Supershadow? (2005 thread)

Hilarious fan-site, but could it be a fake? (I’m guessing you know which one already…) (2010 thread: Supershadow)

666-The anti-originaltrilogy.com (2009 thread: TheGunganCouncil)

Worst of Wookiepedia (2009 thread)

Dealing with People Selling Fan Projects (2017 thread)
 

Quit Whining (2006 thread; just one example of people joining up on here to vent their perceived issues & frustrations with us…)

How to Watch Star Wars, Part Two: The Special Editions Are the Movies, Get Over It (2023 thread; another bad faith argument)

A topic that might upset the entire forum (agenda-led & revisionist youtube videos doing a 180° on SW history + mistaken as fact)

Sick of Star Wars Prequel bashing : You prequel-lover-haters have no argument against the Prequels : followed by spam posts

I would like to issue and apology… (+ ^ the ‘I said many things, I ‘apologize’, but it is your fault too’ / ‘you trolls attacked me’ excuse)

^ Yet another Prequel fan trolling others on here for simply not liking the Prequel Trilogy films, referencing and repeating TFN threads; with general opinions on there repeated as some sort of fact or truth. From a time before posting disingenuous bad faith arguments and videos on here was deemed acceptable, along with the inane ‘Ring Theory’ ™, ‘Visual Symmetry’ ™ and ‘Secretly Genius’ ™ articles. Or the claims that years of ancillary PT-era material somehow improves the Prequel films themselves. Or not wanting to watch a video library of additional material on why not liking the Prequels means ‘you simply do not understand them’ or that ‘you are being wilfully ignorant’ etc… or the decades of mental gymnastics in trying to invalidate others’ contrasting opinions on the actual Prequel films.

However, the above is somewhat less appalling than the years of ongoing abuse and threats issued by some Prequel / Lucas zealots.
 

Why are people like this? (2023 thread; re some fans who do not want / believe the unaltered theatrical cuts can be restored)

I’ll never understand the attitude of people who oppose the release of the unaltered Original Trilogy (2020 thread)

The 'Naysayer Guide’ by people who DON’T want an unaltered theatrical release of the Original Trilogy… (2021 thread)

 

 

 

 

Archival / Historical Discussion threads…

 

History & Events of the Original Trilogy / Franchise as a whole : People Behind The Scenes in the Original Trilogy / Lucasfilm era

 

 

 

 

History & Events of the Original Trilogy / Franchise as a whole…

 

Star Wars: The Lucas Film Edit (aka ‘How Star Wars was saved in the edit’ video)

“The People Vs. George Lucas” documentary… thread : ‘People vs George’ website - link

The Secret History of Star Wars (zombie84’s own book thread of TSHoSW) thread

secrethistoryofstarwars•com has gone (2015 thread)

Save Star Wars Dot Com (zombie84’s 2010 website thread) thread : SaveStarWars website - link

Star Wars official website closes its forums (from 2011)

The Sad State Of Star Wars (2005 thread)

State of the Trilogy / annual SW depression (2008 thread)

Does it depress you… (2011 thread; on the-then coming blu ray release)

Lucasfilm to sell Physical Effects Unit (2006 thread)

“Lucas can’t find home for Star Wars spin-off”

Photo of Star Wars reels inside the Fox Film Vault (2018 thread)

BFI preserving OOT!! (the British Film Institute preserving the Original Trilogy - a 2006 thread)

Remember what Lucas said about the OOT not existing…? (2006 thread)

OFFICIAL: Library of Congress had original prints replaced with 1997 SE

Opinions on film restoration/preservation and how it applies to Star Wars - what do you think should/should not be allowed? (2011 thread)

Is there a single Lucasfilm release on blu ray that has not been tampered with?

Free “farewell” Screening of 1977 Star Wars collector’s print - British I.B. Technicolor (2010 thread)

4K restoration on Star Wars (2014 thread - Lowry Digital / RelianceMediaWorks)

More OUT Re-release Rumors from John Landis! (2015 thread)

Lucasfilm Creates A 4K Ultra-HD Restoration of the Original ‘Star Wars’ - Gareth Edwards (2016)

OOT release not in anyone’s plans… (2016 thread - according to Pablo Hildago of Lucasfilm, on twitter…)

doubleofive’s List of Lists and Comparisons

Star Tours (2011 thread)

Disney Acquires LucasFilm for $4.05 billion, Ep 7 in 2015, 8 and 9 to Follow, New Film Every 2-3 Years

Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge (Disney Theme Park) announced - a 2017 thread. Wikipedia page - link

Kathleen Kennedy (2012 thread)

Disney to buy 20th (21st) Century Fox? - they did, in December 2017

A New direction for Lucasfilm Animation

Disney Closing LucasArts

George Lucas leaves Lucasfilm (2012 thread)

 

 

 

 

 

Talents & Crew ‘Behind The Scenes’ of the Original Trilogy / Lucasfilm era…

 

George Lucas, Irvin Kershner, Richard Marquand, Gary Kurtz, Howard Kazanjian, Robert Watts, Lawrence Kasdan, Ralph McQuarrie, Colin Cantwell, Marcia Lucas, Richard Chew, Paul Hirsch, Gil Taylor, Alan Hume, Peter Suschitzky, Joe Johnston, Phil Tippett, Lorne Peterson, Grant McCune, John Dykstra, Richard Edlund, Dennis Muren, Ken Ralston, John Stears, Stuart Freeborn, John Barry, Leslie Dilley, Norman Reynolds, Roger Christian, John Mollo, John Williams, Ben Burtt, Charles Lippincott, Ashley Boone Jnr, Alan Ladd Jnr, and countless others… as well as later… Jim Ward, John Knoll, Adam Savage, Doug Chiang, Rick McCallum, Kathleen Kennedy etc.
 

GEORGE LUCAS…

including some conflicting & somewhat hypocritical statements by George in interviews & articles over the years…
 

George Lucas - your opinions of him? a general discussion thread (2017 thread; for general chat on all things George Lucas…)

How George Lucas created the O-OT fanbase… (2006 thread, by CO)

Did George Lucas take too much credit? (2004 thread; re George ignoring the importance of others’ contributions to the OT films)

George Lucas auteur theory a crock of Bull (2005 thread; re GL’s reduction in collaboration / being challenged on his films)

Was Lucas Just Lucky? (2005 thread; re was GL just an ‘ideas man’?, a dedicated grafter with an overall vision?, a genius?, or lucky?)

Expecting too much of George Lucas? (2006 thread; re also examining many of GL’s own conflicting viewpoints of his films)

Is George Lucas a fan of Star Wars? (2008 thread; re GL’s dismissal of previously established history / events / stories of his films)

What was George Lucas’s worst decision with the Star Wars franchise? (2017 thread; & also covers GL’s other work and releases)

George Lucas to host showing of Star Wars “1977” for AFI’s 40th anniversary (2007 thread; re AFI showing the 2004 SE version)

George Lucas Interview - Circa April 1977 (2010 thread; re ‘George Lucas Goes Far Out’ article, by Stephen Zito, American Film)

George Lucas interview - 29th October 1979 (2006 thread; re GL interview from 'Once Upon A Galaxy: The Empire Strikes Back’)

George Lucas’ Galactic Empire article - from Time, in 1978 (re plans for 12 episodes) (2006 thread; re a 12-episode Saga)

An article of lies and disgust - George Lucas talks re the 2004 OT SE DVD release… (2004 thread; GL interview with the AP)

You might not believe Lucas said this… (2004 thread; re GL’s quotes before US Congress on the colorization of classic films)

Interesting transcript from online chat about George Lucas on how Empire turned out… (2005 thread; re Dale Pollock on ESB)

It’s official, George is really losing it (claims more changes to the OT to come) (2005 thread; re in the ROTS DVD ‘Vader doc’)

Lucas: I can make just as much money with less effort (2006 thread; re George’s changing attitude to films in the early 80’s)

Judging by ESB & ROTJ original box office, here is why Lucas started to change (2006 thread; re GL’s changing attitude)

‘Merge’ Article - Lucas in his own words (2006 thread; re ‘Creating The Galaxy: Myth Maker And Jedi Master George Lucas’ article)

“…secret to the future is quantity,” Lucas said (2006 thread; re GL on the future of monetization in film & tv)
 

Lucas talks about the Sept 12th Release of the O-OT (2006 thread, re the outmoded 2006 GOUT DVD release - “Now we’ll find out whether they really wanted the original or whether they wanted the improved versions. It’ll all come out in the end.” - George Lucas.)
 

An exact quote from Lucas on Greedo shooting first (2006 thread; re GL’s debunked claim that Han never fired first)

Lucas Shot First: The Surprisingly Powerful Sense of Betrayal George Lucas Creates (2012 Tor article; by Emmet Asher-Perrin)

Lucas claiming the 6 Star Wars films ‘form the biography of Vader’… - but that he wasn’t aware of this “until 1998”… (2005)

Fascinating article about Star Wars and George Lucas from 1997 (2006 thread; re ‘Remaking Star Wars’ 1997 SE article, at EW)

Found this quote from Lucas about changing the Original SW (2005 thread; re GL’s ‘only about 25% of what the movie should be’)

Lucas’ Hypocrisy Strikes Again (2011 thread; re GL’s ‘it’s important that we all make an effort to preserve our cinematic heritage’)

Why do you think he (Lucas) does it? (2011 thread; discussion and ideas on why GL makes so many continuing changes to the OT)

Lucas is just trolling now - THR Interview (2012 thread; re GL’s debunked claim that Han never fired first, & more)

Lucas wearing “Han shot first” shirt during Indy IV production (2007 thread)

It’s Official: George Lucas hates his fans (2012 thread; GL’s ‘my movie, with my name on it, that says I did it, the way I want it.’)

George Lucas on Oprah’s OWN (2012 thread; re GL’s ‘it became a cultural phenomenon’ & why he looks at the film differently)

Who saw Lucas’s speech at Peoples Choice Awards? (2006 thread; re George on awards and critics not liking SW)

Found this quote from Lucas about the Fans from May '05 (2005 thread; re GL’s claim old fans like the OT, young fans like the PT)

Yeah, its us OLD people George - thanks! (2005 thread; re GL’s claim old fans like the OT, young fans like the PT)

George Lucas discusses letting go of Star Wars (2015 thread; re GL’s 2015 ‘white slavers’ video interview with Charlie Rose)

Star Wars Episode VII, VIII, IX George Lucas original story outline, scripts, treatments or his ideas (2015 thread)

If George Lucas Had Made The Sequel Trilogy… (2016 thread; re possible story & characters etc)

George Lucas’ comments re his Sequel Trilogy (2018 thread; re GL’s ST ‘was going to get into the microbiotic world’ quote)
 

George Lucas’ Sequel Trilogy (2020 thread; re George’s quotes and more retcons: "So she [Leia] ended up being the Chosen One.”)
 

“The Ride of a Lifetime" - book by Bob Iger. Lucas mention (2019 thread; GL felt ‘betrayed’ when his ST ideas were rejected)

Do the Star Wars movies contain evidence that Lucas makes it up as he goes? (2014 thread; re GL’s changing storytelling etc)

For those doubting that George Lucas had the whole saga planned out in detail while making Episode IV (2016 thread)

Indication of twelve Star Wars episodes on an old soundtrack album cover? (2017 thread; re the changing number of episodes)

Proof of Lucas’ revisionism in Rinzler’s making-of book? (2019 thread; GL being caught out on revisionism & his claims)

Lucas’ EU in 1977 (midi-chlorians, space gypsies & crystal currency) (2016 thread; GL being caught out on revisionism & claims)

Did George actually have an “original vision?” (2005 thread; re the many inconsistencies throughout the Star Wars Saga)

George Lucas’ “Vision” (2012 thread)

My take (long) (2005 thread; re some of the GL revisionism & claims re the planning / history of the Star Wars Saga)

Lucas’ Inspirations for Star Wars (2012 thread)

A new quote for Lucas… (2005 thread; re an apt quote from Aldous Huxley for George’s OT changes)

When did you realize that George Lucas was full of it? (2019 thread; re seeing through some of GL’s claims & statements)

See George there’s no reason to lie… (future of star wars) (2007 thread; re GL interview says previous comments misconstrued)

Lucas to give the Oscars back to the Academy (2004 thread; re GL’s claims the OOT versions no longer exist, only the SE’s…)

Spielberg comments on digital alterations to his films (2011 thread; re George’s friend on changing films & his own SE changes…)

Is it Lucas, or Fox, who has prevented the restored OOT release? (2020 thread)

Is there a single Lucasfilm release on blu that has not been tampered with? (2010 thread)

The Lucas Bashing Phenomenon - brought to you by Wikipedia (2005 thread)

Try to take it easy with the Lucas bashing (2006 thread)

Let’s all say something nice about George Lucas. No insults allowed (2011 thread)

I like George Lucas (2012 thread)

I Love George Lucas (2005 thread)

Happy Birthday George Lucas (born 14th May. 2012 thread; also features a doubleofive piece on the OT restoration process)

George Lucas ties the knot… (2013 thread)

George’s museum - the ‘Lucas Museum of Narrative Art’ (in LA, set to open in 2025)

George Lucas: Star Wars Creator, Unreliable Narrator & Time Travelling Revisionist… (2019 thread; re some of Lucas’ retcons)
 

There are more discussion threads on George Lucas in the Theatrical Cuts vs. Subsequent Releases section of the site.

More ‘general discussion’ threads on both George and Lucasfilm can be found in the ‘Lucasfilm & Disney - and also the future of Star Wars…’ section of An Index Thread for General Star Wars Discussion.

 

 

 

 

OTHER TALENTS WHO COLLABORATED AND CONTRIBUTED TO THE MAKING OF THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY…

Some of the following threads may only feature mentions from the respective work undertaken by that relevant person(s). Please feel free to create your own dedicated threads for anyone who worked on and contributed to the Original Trilogy films - especially for those talents, creatives and artists who do not currently have their own dedicated threads. Thank you.
 

Original Trilogy Film Crew & People Behind The Scenes: Profiles, Info & Links… (2019 thread)

Star Wars (1977) - ‘Behind The Scenes / Making Of’ images thread

Empire Strikes Back - ‘Behind The Scenes / Making Of’ images thread

Return Of The Jedi - ‘Behind The Scenes / Making Of’ images thread

HelloGreedo’s ‘Star Wars Profiles’ series of actors - and people BTS - of the Original Trilogy (and beyond…)

The Filmumentaries Podcast - by Jambe Davdar (featuring many talents, artists, and crew from the Original Trilogy)

40 at 40: Interviews from the 40th anniversary reunion on May 27th, 2017

Who are your 25 most valuable people to the Star Wars films? (2005 thread)

George Lucas auteur theory a crock of Bull (2010 thread)

It seems like nobody involved in the making of the Original Trilogy has spoken up about George Lucas’ oppression of the unaltered theatrical version of the OT (2007 thread; now contains a list of Star Wars cast, crew, and execs who have spoken up…)

Have any of the actors from the original movies ever commented on the prequels? (2012 thread)

• ‘George Lucas: Star Wars Creator, Unreliable Narrator & Time Travelling Revisionist…’ - Category 28: ‘What do people who worked on the unaltered Original Trilogy films think of the original cuts not being available? (and also later Special Editions)’

 

OT•com threads on Empire Strikes Back director Irvin Kershner

[Article] Kershner Would Have Directed One of the Prequels (2010 thread)

Kershner directing AOTC (2011 thread)

George Lucas jealous of Irvin Kirshner’s Star Wars? (2007 thread)

Is “Empire Strikes Back” really George Lucas’ least favorite? (2012 thread)

Irvin Kershner on Special Editions (2004 thread)

Irvin Kershner has passed away (2010 thread)
 

OT•com threads on Return of the Jedi director Richard Marquand

Richard Marquand’s effect on Return of the Jedi (2020 thread)

What was the point of hiring Richard Marquand in the first place? (2016 thread)

Interview With Richard Marquand Director of Return of the Jedi (June 1983; 2011 thread)

Audio Interview with Richard Marquand (May 1983; 2012 thread)

The unmasking of Vader and Richard Marquand (2010 thread)

Rinzler writes about Marquand in Blueprints (2011 thread)
 

Note: Neither the ‘Empire Strikes Back’ or ‘Return Of The Jedi’ are available as their respective directors intended, or indeed made, or were originally released… on a modern and quality digital format.

 

Charles Lippincott, Star Wars advertising & publicity supervisor, has passed away… (2020 thread)
 

The Lucas Film Edit (aka ‘How Star Wars was saved in the edit’ video) (2017 - re Marcia Lucas, Paul Hirsch & Richard Chew)

In Tribute to Marcia Lucas - zombie84 / Michael Kaminski article on Marcia Lucas from ‘The Secret History Of Star Wars’ website

Do Star Wars fans have appreciation for the wrong Lucas? (2008 thread)

3 ways Marcia Lucas (then wife of George Lucas) saved Star Wars (2011 thread)

Marcia Lucas Speaks! (2017 thread)

The Academy Award winning editing of Episode IV (2006 thread)

Star Wars Visual Effects Pioneers Highlight The Academy’s “Galactic Innovations: Star Wars & Rogue One” Event (2019 + more)

Icons Unearthed - new 6 part documentary on the Original Trilogy (on VICE) (2022; feat. Marcia Lucas interviewed & others BTS)

^ Caution: even discussing Marcia Lucas’ editing work on all three of the Original Trilogy films will likely trigger some George Lucas fans / zealots into anger, rage, and even threats… to say nothing of the attempted justifications and excuses on offer from them when highlighting the fact that George & Lucasfilm have tried to erase or downplay Marcia’s contributions from official Star Wars history.
 

Fantastic Interview with Colin Cantwell, Original Star Wars Prototypist!

1975 Ship Models - Visible for 1st time - Original Trilogy - thread by Colin Cantwell

Pre-McQuarrie “illustrations” for Star Wars (NASA, Flash Gordon, Frazetta, etc.) - Colin Cantwell

The Visual Design of SW - McQuarrie, Cantwell, Johnston etc

Journey of a Skywalker - Ralph McQuarrie

Ralph McQuarrie SW Art Site (2015 thread)

Ralph McQuarrie book? (2005 thread)

Ralph McQuarrie Website (2006 thread)

The Empire Strikes Back - at 40 - Joe Johnston

Small details that took you FOREVER to notice in the Star Wars films

The original inspiration for Star Destroyers?

Some quality & insightful info on building the Droids for the Original Trilogy… - John Stears

ANH screening with modelmaker Lorne Peterson…WHY ARE THEY SCREENING THE SE??

Making A SWVC YouTube Video on Han v Greedo - Lorne Peterson

Phil Tippett when asked about the Special Editions in 2011? “They’re shit”… (2021 thread; re the Movies.com 2011 article)

The Millenium Falcon and its missing conceptual development - miscellaneous talent & crew

“Making of Star Wars” (1977) taped from ABC? - Grant McCune

John Dykstra Interview Circa July 1977 - John Dykstra

Fox/Lucasfilm vs Battlestar Galactica - John Dykstra & others…

The GOUT crawl - Richard Edlund (original crawl)

Return Of The Jedi’s ‘Black Friday’ - 22nd November, 1982… - Ken Ralston & others…

Dennis Muren

Does anyone have this mammoth release!? - Dennis Muren on the ‘Executor’ box set & bonus material

The Creator of the Lightsaber Roger Christian Interview - Rule of Two - Roger Christian

Rob Bottin

Star Wars: The Costume Thread - John Mollo

Lucas to sue Star Wars designer (2008 thread; re Andrew Ainsworth)

Lucasfilm v. Ainsworth (Stormtrooper Costume) - UK Supreme Court
 

star wars and the dambusters - Gil Taylor

The Darth Vader costume changes - Gil Taylor

Gilbert Taylor RIP

Star Wars Colortiming & Cinematography (was What changes was done to STAR WARS in '93?) - changes to Gil & others work.

Why did they use Arriflex cameras on Return of the Jedi rather than Panavision cameras? - Peter Suschitzky

Rinzler writes about Marquand in Blueprints - with content on Alan Hume
 

[Article] Kershner Would Have Directed One of the Prequels (2010 thread)

George Lucas jealous of Irvin Kirshner’s Star Wars? (2007 thread)

Is “Empire Strikes Back” really George Lucas’ least favorite? (2012 thread)

The making of The Empire Strikes Back (Michel Parbot) (2007 thread)

Judging by ESB & ROTJ original box office gross, here is why Lucas started to change (2006 thread)

Jedi 30th Ann. screening at Pixar…of the original version! - with input from Phil Tippett
 

Interview with Gary Kurtz (very good) (2004 thread - interview with FilmForce/IGN)

Quotes from Gary Kurtz (2005 thread)

New Gary Kurtz interview! (2006 thread)

Important Behind The Scenes Info on the Original Trilogy - from London Film & ComicCon - Sept '07 (2007 thread)

Gary Kurtz L.A Times article (2010 thread)

Anatomy of Star Wars Masterclass w/ Gary Kurtz & Sandy Lieberson (2011 thread)

Gary Kurtz Blasts ‘Star Wars’ Myths (2014 thread)

Howard Kazanjian (2005 thread)

Making of Return Of The Jedi (the book) Thread
 

Ben Burtt’s “Special Effects: Anything Can Happen”

What was changed for 1995 THX version? - Ben Burtt

Ben Burtt redeems himself…he doesn’t like CG effects replacing a good story (2008 thread)

Busting the Myth’s of the Star Wars Score - John Williams

John William’s Opinion on the Special Editions (2006 thread)

John Williams vs. Prequel Trilogy (2011 thread)

The music of the Original Trilogy vs the music of the Prequel Trilogy (2012 thread)

John Williams’ Music (2006 thread)

An Index of OT•com threads on all things the Audio of the Original Trilogy - in ‘Theatrical Cuts vs. Subsequent Releases’
 

“Banned from the Ranch” (2012 thread)

Jim Ward steps down (2008 thread)

Sansweet’s leaving Lucasfilm… (2010 thread)

Why LFL is actually cool (I know we need some reasons right now)… (2006 thread)

McCallum Wishes OOT Were on Blu-Ray (2012 thread)

Rick McCallum Exits Lucasfilm! (2012 thread)

Kathleen Kennedy (2012 thread)

Kathleen Kennedy Shuts Down any Hope for Unaltered Release (*not really) (2017 thread; re KK’s much-misconstrued quotes)

I wish someone would ask Kathleen Kennedy about the original versions of the movies (2022 thread; + more misconstruing)
 

• Dave Filoni retcons in Star Wars - The 2008 Clone Wars messes up continuity or how Lucas is still destroying Star Wars (2011)

^ Some retcons and alterations in 2008’s The Clone Wars - compared to previously established EU content and onscreen Star Wars history. It also contains links to articles on retcons & alterations made by Dave Filoni projects to other creatives’ work in the GFFA; the EU, Legends, Canon, Prequel Trilogy, 2003 Clone Wars, Rebels, Bad Batch, Mandalorian, Book of Boba Fett, Tales of the Jedi, & Ahsoka.
 

• Lucasfilm’s claims on canon debunked - The 2008 Clone Wars messes up continuity or how Lucas is still destroying Star Wars

^ An info post chronicling George Lucas’ involvement & contributions with several EU projects (some considered part of his main saga story). This, despite Lucasfilm’s recent baffling attempts trying to downplay or even deny George’s input and contributions in the EU.

 

R.I.P. Gary Kurtz (2018 thread)

Irvin Kershner has passed away (2010 thread)

Gilbert Taylor RIP (SW '77 Cinematographer - 2013 thread)

The legend is gone - Ralph McQuarrie 3/3/12

Star Wars make-up artist (and designer of Yoda) Stuart Freeborn dies aged 98 (2013 thread)

Carol Titelman has passed away at 73 (2019 thread)
 

Note: There is far more information to be found on the various and differing releases of Star Wars down the years - in the ‘Theatrical Cuts vs. Special Editions’ section of this site…

For example, doubleofive’s superb ‘Complete Comparison of Special Edition Visual Changes’ thread, and the ‘George Lucas / Lucasfilm’ section of the An Index Thread for Theatrical Cuts vs. Subsequent Releases

 

 

 

 

The numerous changes made to the Original Trilogy films over the years…

 

Various sources of information regarding the man number of changes made to the Original Trilogy films over the years (and many topics of discussion on them) can be found in the ‘Theatrical Cuts vs. Subsequent Releases’ section of the OT•com, and also in the main discussion thread on the issue, here:-

 

 

Complete Comparison of Special Edition Visual Changes thread, by doubleofive

 
(^ in the 1st post of the above linked thread there is a list of many differing sources which cover the changes made to the films)

 

as well as these three threads:-

An OriginalTrilogy.com Timeline | a history of the site | the why & how it came to be…

George Lucas: Star Wars Creator, Unreliable Narrator & Time Travelling Revisionist…

An Index of OT•com threads on all things the Audio of the Original Trilogy

 

 

 

 

The Home Releases and Formats of the differing versions of the OT films…

 

Info Links : TV : Super 8 : Home Video : Video8 : CED : VHD : Laserdiscs : VCD : 2004 DVD : 2006 DVD (GOUT) : Blu ray : Steelbooks (blu ray) : Digital Downloads (2015) : Streaming (Disney+ in 2019) : 4K UHD : 3D : Miscellaneous : Cinema
 

(including discussion threads on the 2006 GOUT DVD release - the only time the unaltered cuts appeared on a home digital format)

 

 

Wookieepedia’s timeline page listing many of the (yet not all)Star Wars home video’ releases

Video Collector’s superb & informative ‘Star Wars on Video’ resource website (with images and info)

projectcclarke’s quality & insightful ‘Star Wars On Home Video Reference Site(with images and info)

Nathan P Butler’sStar Wars Home Video Library Timeline 3.2: Star Wars Films & TV Series on Home Video’ on youtube

Prillaman’s Star Wars DVD Reviews & Star Wars DVD History archival website pages (with images and info)

DavisDVD•com’s Information Pages on OT VHS & DVD releases (from 1982 to 2004) - SW : ESB : ROTJ : Misc

NeverarGreat’s image guide for the image quality of the various Star Wars releases (and also projects on the OT•com)

World Of Media’s home video timeline for the Star Wars films (1982 onwards)

StarWars•com’s article featuring many of the VHS releases of the Original Trilogy

• Threads on Star Wars video & laserdisc preservation projects can be found in the ‘Star Wars Preservation’ section of the site.

“Star Wars will never be on home video.” - George Lucas, circa 1978/1979.

• ‘Disney+ Should Offer the Star Wars Original Cuts’ article on the Wired website by doubleofive : backup link to the Wired article
#ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy : OT.com thread on doubleofive’s article : ‘What We Want And How To Make It- a sequel article.

 

 

Original Trilogy Discussion Threads:-

 

TV…

 
Any Star Wars TV stuff coming up? (2005 thread)

Disney+ streaming platform : Star Wars content & various info (2019 thread)

Star Wars UK Broadcast dates (2012 thread)

Star Wars ITV broadcast version (2005 thread)

1983 UK ‘TVS’ Star Wars premiere - anybody still have a recording? (2012 thread)

Star Wars - ANH - first TV broadcast in Portugal - November the 8th, 1991. In WIDESCREEN! (2017 thread)

1990s USA Network Star Wars OT Marathon (2014 thread)

Star Wars Original HD TV broadcast? (2014 thread)

STAR WARS is on TCM right now… which version is it? (2019 thread)

CNN Movies series uses HD OT footage! (2019 thread)

When was the Special Edition first shown on TV? (2019 thread)

See the ‘4K… (and also the Disney+ streaming service)’ section below for more Disney+ information…

 

SUPER 8…

 
The Original Trilogy on Super 8 - a 2021 thread

Info & Images: Return of the Jedi - Super 8mm DERANN - a 2020 thread

Info: Star Wars Derann Super 8mm Scope/Stereo Sound Feature Film - on eBay - a 2014 thread

Info: Online 8mm Preservations - a 2012 thread

 

HOME VIDEO TAPES…

 
Open letter to Lucas in October 1980 to release Star Wars on Home Video (2019 thread)

Difference between the theatrical versions and the first VHS home releases? (2018 thread)

When OOT films were released on video (2009 thread)

I’m finally getting the OOT on vhs (2017 thread)

OOT vhs box set? (answer: an OT VHS box set from 2000; the 1997 Special Editions) (2018 thread)

Original Star Wars vhs - which set is it? (2018 thread)

1992 VHS release of the OT (2011 thread)

Found an old Star Wars coupon book in my 95 VHS releases (2018 thread)

1995 VHS (2004 thread)

The 1995 Executor VHS Set (2006 thread)

Which VHS Trilogy should I get to replace my 1995 ‘Faces’ set? (2018 thread)

Gout vs Faces vhs - which is better? (2018 thread)

1997 & 2000 VHS Boxset Differences? (2006 thread)

Can someone explain why this VHS copy of ROTJ is going for $1650.00 ?! (2022 thread)

Was the Original Trilogy ever released to Super VHS? (2005 thread) : OT on Super VHS? (2005 thread)

The Original Trilogy box set releases on home video tape: 1988 to 2000 (2021 thread)
 

The Original Trilogy on Video 2000 (V2000) (2021 thread)

The Original Trilogy on Betamax (Beta) (2021 thread)

 

VIDEO 8…

 
Video8 release of ROTJ (and more Video8 information on the Original Trilogy)… - a 2019 thread

Star Wars Original Trilogy - Video 8 format - a 2020 thread

 

CED…

 
The Star Wars Original Trilogy on RCA’s CED Format (2006 thread)

Info: Original Trilogy on CED preservations? (2009 thread)

CED Discs - are they worth anything? (2006 thread)

• Nathan Butler’s youtube channel videos: The CED OT Trilogy (1982 - 1986)

 

VHD…

 
Star Wars on Video High Density discs (VHD) (2010 thread)

Info Wanted: on Old Japanese VHS Videocassette and VHD Dealers? (2014 thread)

• Nathan Butler’s youtube channel videos: VHD - SW & ROTJ on VHD & ESB on VHD

Link to the Original Trilogy VHD cover artwork for Japan - at SWonVideo.com

Wikipedia Page for VHD technology

 

LASERDISCS…

 
What’s better than sitting down and watching the original Star Wars on laserdisc? (2004 thread)

Star Wars Laserdisc Preservations (2013 thread by althor1138; featuring useful release info)

18% of LD owners cite Star Wars as a main reason for keeping obsolete format (2008 thread)

watching the Laserdiscs directly (2006 thread)

Laserdisc… (2017 thread)

PAL vs NTSC laserdiscs (2005 thread)

GOUT or Laserdisc (what to buy?) (2011 thread)

Which version is better for the OT? Laserdisc or the limited edition 2 disc dvd? (2014 thread; GOUT DVD vs LDs)

Laser Disc theatrical editions - which one should I buy? (2020 thread)

“Best” home releases of the pre-SE original trilogy? (2016 thread)

Are the JSC LD’s the TRUE Releases of the Theatrical Version(s)? (2021 thread)

Extras on SW laserdiscs and not on DVD or BD… (2013 thread)

Why laserdisc soundtracks are better… (2013 thread)

1997 Special Edition, and how can I find it? (2016 thread; included here just for info)

 

VCD…

 
(officially released 1997 SE product in Malaysia & Singapore back in 2000; and was very popular amongst importers and OT fans)

The Original Trilogy on VCD (Video Compact Disc) - albeit the 1997 Special Edition… (2021 thread)

Info Wanted: has anyone done a VCD to DVD ‘Star Wars Saga’ preservation? - included here for useful info

1997 Special Edition VCDs-on-DVD - Satanika’s VCD preservation project; included here for useful info

 

2004 DVD…

 
SE Trilogy on DVD coming this Fall (23rd January, 2004 thread)

Changes in 2004 DVDs (8th March, 2004 thread)

More Changes!!! (19th March, 2004 thread)

Why not release both the Originals and Special Editions on DVD? (15th September, 2004 thread)

STAR WARS DVD Producer Van Ling answers the tough questions! (24th September, 2004 thread)

May 2004 Be With You (2013 thread; re GL quote on the 2004 OT DVD release…)

Star Wars DVD Music Mix Botched!! (20th September, 2004 thread)

Letter to LFL about DVD Defects (No OT vs SE discussion) (29th October, 2004 thread)

Director’s Cuts? (5th November, 2004 thread)

UK differing 2004 Star Wars Trilogy DVD BoxSet Covers… (2004 thread; re MVC black box and HMV gold BoxSet exclusives)

Another Trilogy DVD Screw Up? (2005 thread; on the 2004 DVD release)

Now it’s just getting ridiculous - Obi Wan’s new howl (2004 DVD change, and discussion for 2011 blu rays)

Star Wars ANH DVD replacement disc (2005 thread)

Forget about the ridiculous and unnecessary changes… (2009 thread - re 2004 OT DVD commentaries)

Interview with Marc Wielage, colorist Star Wars 2004 DVD releases (2018 thread)

opinions on film restoration/preservation and how it applies to Star Wars - what do you think should/should not be allowed? (2011 thread)

 

2005 DVD… (A REPACKED RELEASE OF THE 2004 OT SPECIAL EDITION DVD SET)

 
OT Released AGAIN!!! (DVDAnswers.com article on possible new box set…) (2005 thread)

• For information on the history for some of the Star Wars DVD releases - www.prillaman.net/starwarsdvdnews.html

 

2006 DVD… (AKA THE GOUT)

 
A 2 disc DVD for each movie (a 2003 thread; postulating on a future DVD dream release…)

George Lucas says that the original versions of SW will probably be released on DVD (21st June, 2005 thread)

6 DVD Box Set for this November (5th June, 2005 thread - the release was apparently delayed a year…)

Evidence of OOT at Lucasfilm? (14th Feb, 2006 thread)

“Future Theatrical and DVD Releases” What do we think they will be? (18th Feb, 2006 thread)

ITS HAPPENED – OOT AVAILABLE FROM LUCASFILM (3rd May, 2006 thread)

ORIGINAL STAR WARS TRILOGY OUT 09/2006 BY LUCASFILM (3rd May, 2006 thread)

We won! (4th May, 2006 thread)

The Official 2006 Discs Will Be No Better Than What We Have! (4th May, 2006 thread)

Original Trilogy DVD FAQ (Unofficial) (8th May, 2006 thread)

Lucas talks about the Sept 12th Release of the O-OT (14th May, 2006 thread)

What are you going to do with your SE discs? (15th May, 2006)

New DVDs NOT 16x9 (17th May, 2006 thread)

Make your voices heard! (again) - re the 2006 GOUT DVD being in letterbox format (17th May, 2006 thread)

The Official Lucasfilm Response (23rd May, 2006 thread; re the disingenuous and highly selective PR release)

We have to buy this set at least to preserve it for the next generation of fans (27th May, 2006 thread)

Another way Lucas is screwing us! (re the 2006 GOUT DVD release) (31st May, 2006 thread)

first viewing of the 2006 OOT dvds (22nd July, 2006 thread)

The “original crawl” on the new DVD is NOT the original crawl! Screenshot inside! (24th July, 2006 thread)

OUT Audio: Pablo Speaks (25th July, 2006 thread)

Remember what Lucas said about the OOT not existing…? - BFI keeps preserved OOT prints (13th August, 2006 thread)

It has begun: StarWars.com to celebrate original films (20th August, 2006 thread)

O-OT Star Wars “Bonus Disc” menus (www.starwars.com) (23rd August, 2006 thread)

So, this is how the DVDs are going to look… (25th August, 2006 thread)

Where Does it Actually Say that the DVDs are NOT Anamorphic?!? (27th August, 2006 thread)

Selectable crawl on new DVD? Or just the old one? (30th August, 2006 thread)

In defence of the 2004 DVDs (5th September, 2006 thread)

Star Wars Limited Edition Screen Captures (11th September, 2006 thread - comparison images with fan-made releases)

Are the PAL GOUT DVDs upscaled from the NTSC masters? (12th September, 2006 thread)

First Impressions of the OOT… (12th September, 2006 thread)

So then, PAL or NTSC GOUT for best quality? (13th September, 2006 thread)

SW.com: “First and ONLY Time” (13th September, 2006 thread)

What’s missing from GOUT (30th September, 2006 thread)

Star Wars Trilogy - Original Theatrical Versions: 2006 DVD Flaw List (19th October, 2006 thread)

Where do I go from here as a SW fan? (12th November, 2006 thread)

Will you buy the OOT again? (25th November, 2006 thread)

Archiving seminar reveals ‘Star Wars’ tidbit?" Another SE?! (31st January, 2007 thread)

To those who own the OOT Sept (2006) Release & an HD TV (3rd March, 2007 thread)

So, um… no new DVD’s announced this year? (30th May, 2007 thread - re a possible 30th Anniversary DVD boxset)

2006 DVD OOT (general discussion - 18th June, 2007 thread)

Why is the GOUT not anamorphic? (22nd April, 2008 thread)

I heard the 2006 set with the GOUT is now gone… (2011 thread - the 2006 GOUT DVD box set now being out of print)

The OOT has been officially unavailable for almost a decade now (2021 thread)

10th Anniversary of the “GOUT” dvd release (in 2006) (2016 thread)

Star Wars GOUT DVDs - is it still worth buying them? (2020 thread)

I say forget the OOT on DVD, lets target HD-DVD/Blue Ray Now (29th July, 2007)

 

2008 DVD… (REPACKAGED DVD BOX SET)

 
Yet ANOTHER DVD boxed set… sigh (2008 PT and OT SE DVD re-issue Box Set info thread - 20th August, 2008)

2008 box (10th December, 2008)

 

BLU RAY… (AND SOME LATER DVD COMBO PACK RELEASES)

 
Star Wars coming to Blu Ray (UPDATE: August 30 2011, No! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!) (April 2010 thread)

Do you think George Lucas will correct the colors for the blu-ray release? (2009 thread)

Star Wars Blu Ray Impressions (2011 thread)

What HASN’T been changed on Blu-ray – the uncorrected mistakes of Star Wars (2011 thread)

McCallum Wishes OOT Were on Blu-Ray (2012 thread)

Should I buy the Original Trilogy Blu ray? I already have the 2004 DVD (2014 thread)

Star Wars Blu-ray and DVD Combo Packs (2013 thread; re the 2013 PT & OT blu ray / dvd Box Set releases)

2019 re-release of the Original Trilogy films on blu ray & DVD (2011 SE version) (2019 thread; individual releases)

2020 Blu Rays - are they worth it? (2020 thread; covering the confusion of two different, but very similar looking releases…)

 

STEELBOOKS… (RE-PACKAGING OF PREVIOUS THE BLU RAY RELEASES)

 
Besides “The films need to be the way I want them,” has Lucas stated anything as to why the Blu-rays became the travesty that they are? (2014 thread)

RUMOR - Original theatrical cut of the Original Trilogy to be released on blu ray!! (2014 thread - it didn’t happen)

Star Wars theatrical versions not coming in 2015 (the steelbooks release; a re-packaging of the previous blu ray version)

2013 OT blu ray steelbook Box Set release thread - ? : AVForums.com thread : Blu-ray.com thread

2015 OT blu ray steelbook individual films release thread - ? : AVForums.com thread : Blu-ray.com thread

 

DIGITAL DOWNLOADS…

 
Star Wars Digital HD Release … April 10th 2015

 

4K… (AND ALSO THE DISNEY+ STREAMING SERVICE)

 
4K restoration on Star Wars (2014 thread - Lowry Digital / RelianceMediaWorks)

Lucasfilm Creates A 4K Ultra-HD Restoration of the Original ‘Star Wars’ - Gareth Edwards (2017 thread; 2016 article)

Disney to buy 20th (21st) Century Fox? (2017 thread; re the possibilities of future OT releases)

Star Wars trilogy box sets coming next year? (2019 thread)

Disney+ streaming platform : Star Wars content & various other info (2019 thread; the 2019 SE Disney+ version - 12th Nov 2019)

All Star Wars films released in 4K HDR on Disney Plus: 2019 SE with more changes (2019 thread - in ‘SW Preservation’)

Changes to the Disney+ 2019 SE of the Original Trilogy (2020 thread)

Digital OT owners switched to Disney+ versions without consent? (2020 thread)

2019 SE : The changes to the OT films & general 2019 Special Edition discussion thread

Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga 4k UHD – 27 DISC Boxed Set – 3/31/2020 (2019 thread; + the 18-disc blu ray & 9-disc dvd sets)

2020 Blu Rays - are they worth it? (2020 thread; covering the confusion of two different, but very similar looking releases…)

Info Wanted: 2011 vs 2019 blu rays (2020 thread)

Have the Disney+ versions of the OT been released on DVD in North America? (2021 thread)

Disney+ TV shows and the future of Star Wars on home video (2020 thread)

• doubleofive’s ‘Disney+ Should Offer the Star Wars Original Cuts’ article on the Wired website : backup link to the Wired article : OT.com thread on the article (2020 thread) : #ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy

What if Lucasfilm “stole” a preservation? (2015 thread; a big ‘what if’ thread 😉)

Speculation about the 4K Future of AOTC and ROTS (2019 thread; listed here for information)

 

3D…

 
STAR WARS in 3-D! (2005 thread)

Lucas to rerelease Star Wars films in 3D (2005 thread)

3D ?! (2006 thread)

Star Wars 3-D in 2007 (2007 thread)

3D STAR WARS for the masses…has ARRIVED! (2009 thread)

3D Conversions (2017 thread)

Info Wanted: Star Wars Episode 1-6 3D Re Releases (2022 thread)

 

MISCELLANEOUS…

 
The OOT : The changes to the OT films & general OOT (1977 - 1996) discussion thread

1997 SE : The changes to the OT films & general 1997 Special Edition discussion thread

2004 SE : The changes to the OT films & general 2004 Special Edition discussion thread

2006 GOUT : The changes to the OT films & general 2006 GOUT DVD discussion thread

2011 SE : The changes to the OT films & general 2011 Special Edition discussion thread

2019 SE : The changes to the OT films & general 2019 Special Edition discussion thread

2037 SE : The changes to the OT films & general future Special Edition discussion thread (“Somehow… Lucas has returned!”)…

An Index of OT•com threads on all things the Audio of the Original Trilogy (2020 thread)
 

Disney Plus should release all of the theatrical versions of the Star Wars movies on their stream service (2021 thread)

Will Disney eventually release every version of all Star Wars movies? (2023 thread)

What will be the next physical home media release of the Original Trilogy? (2021 thread)

Is the idea of Criterion putting the OT out on BR or 4K such a far-fetched concept now? (2022 thread)

Disney+ streaming platform : Star Wars content & various other info (2019 thread)

Disney+ TV shows and the future of Star Wars on home video (2020 thread)

The end of Star Wars physical media (2023 thread; in Australia - and which region will be next…?)

Do you think Disney will release the unaltered versions for DVD and blu ray? (2012 thread; re Disney buying Lucasfilm)

Some useful OT.com threads re the suppression of the theatrical Original Trilogy films (2020 thread)
 

Evidence of OOT at Lucasfilm? (2006 thread - based on Empire Of Dreams documentary content)

What’s the status of the Originals? (2013 thread)

^ As confirmed by various sources at Lucasfilm, Fox & Disney over the years - including George Lucas himself; all the material and elements required for a modern high quality release for the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy are indeed available. ^

BFI preserving OOT!! (the British Film Institute preserving the Original Trilogy - a 2006 thread)

Remember what Lucas said about the OOT not existing…? (2006 thread; the BFI preserving the OOT)

Is it Lucas, or Fox, who has prevented the restored OOT release? (2020 thread)

Do you REALLY think there will be remastered versions of the OOT or whatever? I don’t. (2006 thread)

What can be done to save the real original star wars trilogy from 1977-1983? (2009 thread)

Are the JSC LD’s the TRUE Releases of the Theatrical Version(s)? (2021 thread; re 1986 ‘Japan Special Collection’)

What versions of the SW saga do you own (OT, PT, preservations, etc)? (2006 thread)

Will you buy the OOT again ? (2006 thread)

How many times have you bought the movies? (2010 thread)

What is your main way of watching the Original Trilogy? (2020 thread)

How often do you watch the Original Trilogy? (2021 thread)

What do you think was the best release of the OT at the time it came out? (2011 thread)

Is there a single Lucasfilm release on blu that has not been tampered with? (2010 thread)

Open letter to Lucas in October 1980 to release Star Wars on Home Video (2019 thread)

Was Lucas initially against Star Wars being released on any format besides theatrical? (2020 thread)

 

• ‘Disney+ Should Offer the Star Wars Original Cutsarticle on the Wired website by doubleofive : backup link to the Wired article
#ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy : OT.com thread on doubleofive’s article : ‘What We Want And How To Make It- a sequel article.

 

• ‘Untouched is impossible: the story of Star Wars in film’ - 2010 article at ARS Technica; re how the unaltered theatrical version of the OT films CAN quite easily be restored - despite George Lucas’ and Lucasfilms claims to the contrary.

• ‘Could Disney finally give us the remastered, unedited Star Wars we want?’ - 2017 article at ARS Technica; re how the unaltered theatrical version of the OT films CAN quite easily be restored - despite George Lucas’ and Lucasfilms claims to the contrary.

• ‘The Star Wars Blu-Ray Blues’ - 2010 article at Saving Star Wars; re how the unaltered theatrical version of the OT films CAN quite easily be restored - despite George Lucas and Lucasfilms’ claims to the contrary.

OOT release not in anyone’s plans… (2016 thread - according to Pablo Hildago of Lucasfilm, on twitter…)

Star Wars trilogy box sets coming next year? (2019 thread)

JJ Abrams mentions “Despecialized” - OUT not coming (2019 thread - re JJ’s interview on NowThis about the theatrical versions not being officially available & and instead watching the Despecialized Editions)

We have X in HD, but we still don’t have Star Wars (2017 thread)

Bonus Material You’d Like to See Released (2015 thread)

Dealing with People Selling Fan Projects (2017 thread)

What will be the next physical home media release of the Original Trilogy? (2021 thread)

The end of Star Wars physical media (2023 thread)

 

THEATRICAL SHOWINGS OF THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY FILMS (SINCE 1997 - INC SAGA SHOWINGS):-

 
ANH screening with modelmaker Lorne Peterson… Why Are They Screening The SE??? (2006 thread)

70mm screening of Star Wars '77 (2008 thread)

Free “farewell” Screening of 1977 Star Wars collector’s print - British I.B. Technicolor (2010 thread)

Recent screening of 1980 print of The Empire Strikes Back in Austin (2010 thread)

Star Wars (SE) shown at Piedmont Park (Atlanta) (2010 thread)

Darth Lucas Strikes Again! (2011 thread re a planned free showing of the OT at a bar halted by Lucasfilm)

SW screening in San Diego (2012 thread)

Original cut showing in a theater in Wales (U.K.) tonight! (2012 thread)

Star Wars Day (UK) - Screenings of OT (2014 thread)

Jedi 30th Ann. screening at Pixar…of the original version! - with input from Phil Tippett (2014 thread)

Disney brings back all six movies to the big screen on 2014-05-03/04 - In Germany (2014 thread, OT SE’s shown)

Secret Cinema - Empire Strikes Back in London (2015 thread)

Carolina Theater in Greensboro claims to be showing GOUT this weekend (2019 thread; 2006 GOUT DVD on the big screen)

Screening of the Original Version of STAR WARS July at Stockton, CA (2019 thread; the OUT were planned to be shown - later changed and the Special Editions were shown)

OT screenings at Rivoli Ballroom, S.E. London UK (2019 thread)

70mm print of GOUT on Saturday in Academy Theater in CA! (2019 thread; an actual OUT 70mm showing of Star Wars '77)

Last theatrical screenings of the pre-SE trilogy? (2020 thread)

Information on ‘40th anniversary’ cinema screenings of the Special Edition cuts of… Empire in 2020, and Jedi in 2023…
Empire - 40th screenings & link 2 (2011 or 2019 SE - depending on country; Lucasfilm didn’t know which SE cut was shown)
Return Of The Jedi’s 40th anniversary (2019 Special Edition was the version shown in cinemas)

Note: There is more information to be found on the various and differing releases of Star Wars down the years - in the ’Theatrical Cuts vs. Special Editions’ section of this site…

 

 

 

 

FAQs, Information & Useful Links…

 

(FAQs & Info links : Encyclopedias & similar resources, and Star Wars Lore)

 

 

 

 

Useful Links & Information (from some familiar names & faces around here…)

 

The links below are FAQs or Info sections from other Star Wars related websites (many of which focus on the Original Trilogy) - they may contain certain points of view you may not agree with - or that may not be factually correct…
 

F:L:I:M:S:I:P:L:A:S:T: D:A:T:A:B:A:S:E - superb array of Star Wars information exhaustively compiled by none : OT.com thread

SaveStarWars.com - comprehensive history of Star Wars; and some of it’s revisionism - by zombie84 : OT.com thread

Secret History Of Star Wars website - by zombie84, re-hosted by none : OT.com thread : AudioBook thread for SHOSW book

Star Wars News & Views - youtube channel; assorted info and news, run by zombie84 and friends

Star Wars Special Edition Visual Comparisons : Star Wars Visual Comparisons - doubleofive’s blog & twitter : OT.com thread

Star Wars Changes / Film Spaced - YouTube Videos by 13las : SW : ESB : ROTJ : 2019 SE / Disney+ : The Lost Cut : Prequels

Star Wars Comparison’s YouTube video channel - by Blackout; for comparing theatrical cuts to official releases and fan projects.

Star Wars Archives - a great resource for the OT films, by Darth Neo : OT.com thread

Star Wars Legacy website - SW '77 Preservation/Restoration project by mverta : mverta’s Vimeo Page : OT.com thread

Filmumentaries - Original Trilogy documentaries & more… - by Jambe Davdar : OT SW thread : OT ESB thread : OT ROTJ thread

The Filmumentaries Podcast - OT•com thread by Jamber Davdar (aka Jamie Benning) on his superb Filmumentaries Podcast…
with insightful and informative interviews with many of the talented crew who worked on the beloved Original Trilogy.

Save Star Wars - Boycott The Blu-Rays - facebook page run by Mielr

SWonVideo.com - a great resource for SW home video releases, run by Video Collector

Star Wars On Home Video Reference Site - another great resource for SW home video releases, run by projectcclarke

Prillaman’s Star Wars DVD Reviews site - another top resource for the early history of SW on DVD…

Nathan Butler youtube channel - author of the ‘A Saga On Home Video’ book, on the countless releases of SW home media.

Galactic Trade Federation - quality fan-made dvd info site run by russs15 (via the Internet Archive’s WayBack Machine)

Aalenfae’s Star Wars Video Essays : EC Henry’s Youtube Channel

Kitbashed : Origins of Star Wars - run by Heilemann

HelloGreedo’s ‘Star Wars Profiles’ series of actors and people BTS of the Original Trilogy (and beyond…)

Star Wars Holiday Special website - a great resource of SWTHS info, run by SKot

T-Bone’s Star Wars Universe - great info & one of the longest running SW sites on the internet

Starkiller - The Jedi Bendu Script Site - a top resource for many various drafts of Star Wars scripts

Star Wars Aficionado Blog - great info & resource blog, run by starwarsmania

In A Far Away Galaxy - great info & resource blog

RetroBlasting - by nohandluke; humorous analysis and deconstruction of 1980s vintage toys (much Star Wars)

The Chronological Star Wars - A Critical Reappraisal - by DavidMDaut; including the various animated series and more

StarWarsInterviews.com - interviews with people working behind the scenes of Star Wars

StarWarsInterviews.com & a brand new interview with Michael Pangrazio (ILM, matte painter) (2022 thread)

Talking Bay 94 - podcasts and twitter; interviews with the cast and crew of Star Wars

The People Vs George Lucas - 2010 documentary website : OT.com thread

Star Wars ScreenCaps website

Star Wars At The Movies - a great resource for the OT films (with articles, blog and podcasts)

Star Wars Obscurities - in-depth info (such as unused footage and screenplays) on the Star Wars Saga

From the Desk of Charles Lippincott - insightful info & rare gems on the OT films

Star Wars Underworld (info and news twitter account)

SW Holocron (info & photos twitter account)

Star Wars 1977-1983 (info & photos twitter account)

Classic Star Wars (info & photos twitter account)

Star Wars 1977-1996 (info & photos facebook account)

Rebel Scum (website and forum with masses of info on all things SW Collecting)

FanthaTracks - site / blog / podcasts; assorted info, news & reviews etc

Death Star PR - ‘The Galactic Empire has been getting a bad rap. We’re here to set the record straight.’ (twitter account)

Darth Vader - the heavy breather with a fetish for black leatherette’s very social media platform (twitter account)

Reddit/OriginalTrilogy - a reddit specialising in the Original Trilogy films

Jamie Stangroom youtube channel - interviews, documentaries and info on all things Original Trilogy : Twitter

Milners Blog - Star Wars - assorted info and news (+ great images)

 

 

 

 

 

FAQs, Encyclopedias & similar resources, and Star Wars Lore…

 

The links below are FAQs or Info sections from other Star Wars related websites (many of which focus on the Original Trilogy) - they may contain certain points of view you may not agree with - or that may not be factually correct…
 

Wikipedia’s Star Wars page

StarWars.com’s Databank

Reddit’s Star Wars FAQ

StarWarsFAQ.com

Wookieepedia

Wookieepedia - Star Wars ‘home video’ releases page

Star Wars Galaxy Map - a ‘Google Maps’ type site for the GFFA

T’bone’s Star Wars Universe

Yoda’s Datapad FAQs

ThoughtCo’s Star Wars Mysteries (FAQ)

GalaxyFarAway.com (FAQ)

TheForce.net’s Encyclopedia

Star Wars Actor Appearances - website featuring info on actors at Cons to Signings

Star Wars Comparison - youtube channel; assorted comparison videos of various releases of the Original Trilogy films

EC Henry - youtube channel; assorted mix of info & ponderings on SW ships & vehicles (and much more…)

HelloGreedo - youtube channel; assorted mix of info, news, reviews & ponderings

AT-AT Chat - youtube channel; assorted mix of info, news, reviews & ponderings

Generation Tech - youtube channel; assorted mix of info, news, reviews & ponderings

ScreenCrush - youtube channel; assorted mix of info, news, reviews & ponderings

Star Wars Explained - youtube channel; assorted mix of info, news & SW lore

Nathan Butler - youtube channel; author of the ‘A Saga On Home Video’ book, on the countless releases of SW home media

RetroBlasting - - youtube channel; assorted mix of info, news, reviews & toys / collecting

Stupendous Wave - youtube channel; assorted mix of info, news & SW lore

The Lore Master - youtube channel; assorted mix of info, news & SW lore

Trash Compactor - podcast; the GFFA through an ‘old school’ lens

Wit & Folly - youtube channel; assorted mix of in-depth info & thoughts, reviews & ponderings

Girls With Sabers - youtube channel; assorted mix of info, news, reviews & ponderings

StarWarsNowThis - an Index / Library of Star Wars Podcasts - dating all the way back to the 90’s.

Sleemo.com - assorted mix of news and info; also with more content at https://twitter.com/sleemo_

 

 


 
 

If you have any suggestions, or for specific threads to be added to this Index, please post them below.

Also, if you see any broken links or errors please also post them in here too - thank you.

 

Last updated: Thursday 29th February, 2024. (by oojason)

Updated to now include images for each category - to help break up the ‘wall of text’ - to try and make categories easier to navigate.

 

Links to the Welcome to the OriginalTrilogy.com | Introduce yourself in here | Useful info within, plus About & Help sections.

A link to the How do I do this?’ on the OriginalTrilogy.com - some info & replies to members’ FAQs thread, in General Assistance.

A link to ‘Where is the site Search Bar? / How to search for projects, information, or discussion threads on OriginalTrilogy.com’.

Links to the OT.com Forum Rules and Guidelines & Fan Edit / Preservation Forum Rules and FAQ threads, in Announcements.

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Excellent idea. Is this stickied?

Also: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Worst-of-Wookiepedia/id/10971/page/1
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Star-Wars-Holiday-Special-1978/id/53262/page/1
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Ewok-Films/id/1823/page/1
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/An-Experiment-in-Inducting-a-SW-newbie/id/12991/page/1
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/What-we-like-about-the-Prequels/id/11950/page/1 (there’s already one but this one was older and has more pages)
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Free-farewell-Screening-of-1977-Star-Wars-collectors-print-British-IB-Technicolor/id/11733

You probably don’t recognize me because of the red arm.
Episode 9 Rewrite, The Starlight Project (Released!) and ANH Technicolor Project (Released!)

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NeverarGreat said:

Excellent idea. Is this stickied?

Also: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Worst-of-Wookiepedia/id/10971/page/1
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Star-Wars-Holiday-Special-1978/id/53262/page/1
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Ewok-Films/id/1823/page/1
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/An-Experiment-in-Inducting-a-SW-newbie/id/12991/page/1
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/What-we-like-about-the-Prequels/id/11950/page/1 (there’s already one but this one was older and has more pages)
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Free-farewell-Screening-of-1977-Star-Wars-collectors-print-British-IB-Technicolor/id/11733

Cheers mate - it’s not stickied yet - though hopefully will be soon. Edit: thanks Jay 😃

(It was your suggestion for an FAQ thread in here that inspired me - and my ‘copy & paste’ skills were getting a little rusty too 😉)

I’ve added your 6 links above to the Index - nice one - and many thanks!

 

If anyone has any suggestions for additions to it please post them in here - thank you.

I struggled to find a decent ‘Attack Of the Clones’ & ‘Revenge Of The Sith’ discussion thread in here - if anyone can point a couple out please do
 

Am struggling to find some threads with Kenny Baker and Anthony Daniels in…
 

200+ accessible pages of the ‘General Star Wars Discussion’ section - a lot to go through - and occasionally miss a good thread 😉 - so if anyone has any more suggestions, please keep them coming…

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I don’t think we discussed the prequels all that much a decade ago, believe it or not. Even though we were around when ROTS was in theaters.

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Where were you in '77?

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DuracellEnergizer said:

I’m honestly surprised yhwx never took a shot at creating this thread himself ages ago.

I decided not to but I forgot why.

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Aw man I was so excited about my post I didn’t even see DE’s.

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The good news is Neverar hasn’t taken a shot at me yet.

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TV’s Frink said:

Jason is yhwx sock confimred. 😉

confimred is my sock and also my goldfish

my goldfish is also code for my BanHammer 😃

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SilverWook said:

I don’t think we discussed the prequels all that much a decade ago, believe it or not. Even though we were around when ROTS was in theaters.

Aye, I managed to find a couple of threads on it - but didn’t really want to post the more… mainly negative threads… in general (though some good and valid points made in amongst them).

I think I found a little bit of balance there - though if anyone knows or finds a more positive thread on AOTC & ROTS please post them up 😃

 

Valheru_84 said:

Nice thread oojason!

.Val

Cheers mate 😃

The Index thread has been updated to include a few more threads from the earlier part of the site history too.

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There are at least a couple ROTJ threads that might be a good idea to index, as that film tends to spark a lot of discussion (and extraneous threads among noobs).

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DominicCobb said:

There are at least a couple ROTJ threads that might be a good idea to index, as that film tends to spark a lot of discussion (and extraneous threads among noobs).

Added a couple more ROTJ (and also ESB) threads mate - if there any specific ROTJ threads you’d like to see added let me know 😃

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TV’s Frink said:

Handman said:

sktthemes said:

nice discussion

Nice contribution.

Nice spambot…?

a now deleted and banned spambot - a nice pick-up on it 😃

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All that effort, and your spam will only end up deleted. Man, do you suck.

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I am quite new to this whole deal, yet VERY interested in seeing a bluray quality copy of the original trilogy. I have them on VHS, but no way of doing my own edits. So, I assume there is a general place to go find the Harmy edits? How do I go about finding it?

Tank