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#1388125
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Possible 'proof' that Greedo was always meant to shoot
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SilverWook said:

Fated-Dualist said:

It seems doubleofive got there first and saved it 😃

https://twitter.com/StarWarsVisComp/status/1330530045547438080
 

The original tweet and claim by author Paul Duncan (which he later deleted):-

I don’t know where the heck he got the idea Greedo’s subtitles were added in 1983. They have always been in the movie since 1977.
Must be open season on bad info lately. I’ve seen claims elsewhere that Splinter Of The Mind’s Eye was going to be a tv-movie, and that the Ewok films were partially shot on video. No idea where this stuff is coming from…

The worst thing for me is that Paul Duncan claims to be a film historian.

I can almost forgive some of the more outlandish claims made by clickbait journalists on clickbait-sites looking for views via a misleading and attention grabbing headline, stretching the truth, or giving a ‘different point of view’.

Yet a ‘film historian’ with two exclusive, official and expensive ‘Archive’ books currently out, and not even doing the most rudimentary of fact checks? Wow!

Perhaps Lucasfilm should be coming here for a factually correct history of Star Wars 😉

 

doubleofive said:

I’m going to be working on a definitive history of the Greedo scene in an all-new format: video.

Video?

Adopts best Vader impression: ‘Do not underestimate the power of interpretive dance’ 😃
 

(I look forward to your videos - even if they are lacking in interpretive dance. Good luck!)

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#1387787
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Doug & Aaahh!!! Real Monsters Pilots Preservation
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UncutIsSuperior said:

Hi. I’ve been wanting to see the original unaired pilot for Aaahh!!! Real Monsters, as well as the original pilot version of the Doug episode “Doug Can’t Dance”, for about a while now. If any of you could find these, then that would be great.

So this thread is more of a ‘Can you send me a copy of the original unaired pilot of ‘Aaahh!!! Real Monsters’?’ request, rather than a preservation project?

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#1387745
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<strong>Coronavirus</strong> (COVID-19) Pandemic thread - <strong>relevant political discussion allowed</strong> in here
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‘Coronavirus: Inside test-and-trace - how the ‘world beater’ went wrong’:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55008133
 

The appalling way some politicians and governments have handles this… well, thank our lucky stars we will soon have vaccines available to us. That the voting public will not forget some of the ineptitude, complacency and inaction from some of our ‘leaders’ during this pandemic which has claimed 1.4 million lives so far (directly), for which they take ‘no responsibility’.

Yet all credit to the world leaders who took firm action to suppress this.

Bring on the vaccines 👍

 

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#1385042
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<strong>2006 GOUT</strong> : The changes to the OT films &amp; general 2006 GOUT DVD discussion thread
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The 2006 GOUT DVD Release

The changes to the OT films & general 2006 GOUT DVD discussion thread…

 

 

Introduction:-

 
To any Rebels, Imperials, Guild Members and the dedicated scum and villainy from the OT•com reading this…
 

This is just one of a seven-part set of linked threads (see the end of this post for the links) to talk about each of the four main ‘Special Edition’ releases and the respective changes made to them over time - including a post for the original unaltered theatrical version, and also an unlikely scenario where “Somehow Lucas has returned!” with more changes made in yet another improbable future release.

The reason for these threads is try and help inform, educate and highlight any new fans who are unaware or are uninitiated with some the history of these continuing changes made to the three iconic Original Trilogy films (or be a reminder for me some of more forgetful members here). As well as highlighting a lack of release for the Original Trilogy films in their classic pre-1997 Special Edition version, and also about some of the changes & tweaks made to the groundbreaking and award-winning OT films from 1977 to 1996 too…

To serve as a centralised discussion and information thread for each of the main Original Trilogy releases… and also an archive of some of the quality threads and posts on the subject which has taken place on here down the years - as well as any useful, insightful or informative articles elsewhere.

Or a chance to just chat some more about the 2006 DVD release of the unaltered theatrical Original Trilogy 😃
 

Much credit to oojason for sending me his plans & ideas for the incomplete version of these threads - ‘I will finish what you started!’
 

Below is some hopefully useful & introductory information on the GOUT release (or simply a reminder for us oldies)… 😉

 
 

The Announcement (+ Promo material) for the 2006 GOUT bonus discs DVD release:-

 

‘The GOUT - aka the 2006 Original Trilogy DVD release’

(with the unaltered theatrical version of the OT films on bonus discs)
 

After a long campaign by Star Wars fans all over the world - and spearheaded by this very site since 2003…
 

…George Lucas finally gave in to the massive demand from fans for the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy - the version he said no longer existed anymore - to be released on DVD.

 

 

On 3rd May, 2006:

StarWars•com announcement that the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy would be released on DVD:-

^ StarWars•com’s actual post on the announcement can be found here - via the Internet Archive’s Wayback Machine.

 

 

Rebels striking from a hidden base (sort of) have won their first victory - as acknowledged by Lucasfilm…

A screenshot image of the article on the Baltimore Sun website from the 5th May 2006, featuring quotes from Lucasfilm spokesman John Singh about the OriginalTrilogy•com - the passion of the fans here - as well as acknowledging that the theatrical versions of the Original Trilogy films are “…the movies that some fans have always wanted own, because they’re the ones they first saw in theaters.”…

 

 

An abridged screenshot image of Jay’s post on the OriginalTrilogy•com at the time:-

^ Jay’s actual post can be found here - via the Internet Archive’s Wayback Machine (read from the bottom of the page to the top)

 

 

Then, later in May… came the news that coming unaltered theatrical version release on DVD would be in letterbox format - and not anamorphic widescreen. Followed by the reveal that the transfer would be from what was used for the 1993 Definitive Edition Laserdiscs - a 13 year old project and, even back then (in 2006), of substandard quality - using compressed sound and adding DVNR to reduce the picture quality and detail further.

Upon learning of this, the previous claims on Jim Ward, Lucasfilm’s VP, quoted in the official announcement as returning…

“to the Lucasfilm Archives to search exhaustively for source material that could be presented on DVD. This is something that we’re very excited to be able to give to fans in response to their continuing enthusiasm for Star Wars”

in the shade. Along his words of…

“Over the years, a truly countless number of fans have told us they would love to see and own the original version that they remember experiencing in theaters”

also ringing hollow.

 

Fans here and elsewhere then immediately contacted Lucasfilm via email, phonecalls, faxes, and letters - politely informing them of our dissatisfaction with their decision to use this lazy and substandard transfer as a means to release the theatrical versions of the Original Trilogy on DVD…

^ Jay’s actual post can be viewed here - via the Internet Archive’s Wayback Machine (read from the bottom of the page to the top)

 

 

Lucasfilm’s following PR statement in 2006 after receiving a barrage of criticism from fans for their choice to use such a 13 year old substandard and limited quality laserdisc transfer for the coming 2006 DVD release - complete with somewhat nonsensical and factually disingenuous reply:-

^ The actual post above can be viewed here - via the Internet Archive’s WayBack Machine

 

 

For more detailed information on the events surrounding the 2006 GOUT DVD release the following threads may be of some assistance:-

An OriginalTrilogy.com Timeline | a history of the site | the why & how it came to be…

George Lucas: Unreliable Narrator & Time Travelling Revisionist

^ To date, the 2006 GOUT bonus disc release is the only time the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy has been officially available to buy and experience in your home. It was based on transfer from a 1993 laserdisc releases, in an obsolete letterboxed widescreen format, and with DNR quality issues affecting image quality throughout.

 

 

‘Star Wars Original Trilogy 2006 DVD Trailer’ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmtnEQS8ICw (3 minutes, 8 seconds long)

^ Only 20 seconds of time was dedicated to the unaltered theatrical version version in the above trailer - with the Lego Star Wars game & the release being a 2004 OT SE re-release taking up the remaining time.

 

 

Sources Of Information:-

 
Since the 1997 Special Editions through to the 2019 Maclunkey releases - EXCEPT the GOUT (all credit to doubleofive)

Never forget that the Death Star has been in clear site of Yavin IV from the beginning of the battle since 1997 and this is how the Special Edition should have ended.':-

www.wired.com/story/put-original-star-wars-on-disney-plus (and scroll down to the ‘The Game Breaker’ section)

 
 

Got GOUT? The 2006 Original Version Bonus Feature Fiasco’:-

https://savestarwars.com/gout.html - article at the superb and comprehensive Saving Star Wars website

^ from Michael Kaminski - the author of the excellent and exhaustive ‘The Secret History Of Star Wars’ book.

 
 

From the Star Wars Home Video Library #15: Original Trilogy on DVD, Part 2 (2006)’:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgLEP76PHoo - 14 minute video, from the Nathan P Butler YouTube channel.

 
 

From the Star Wars Home Video Library #166: The Original Trilogy UK Collector’s Tin’:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C57km_81Adk - 15 minute video, from the Nathan P Butler YouTube channel.

 

 

• The Opening Post of the ‘Complete Comparison of Special Edition Visual Changes’ OT•com thread has an index for multiple source of information on many of the changes made to the Original Trilogy films over the years.

 

 

All Changes Made to Star Wars Original Trilogy’ - at the superb Marcelo Zuniga YouTube Channel

• ‘All Changes Made to Star Wars: A New Hope (Comparison Video) PART I’ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNbzSH84mj0
• ‘All Changes Made to Star Wars: A New Hope (Comparison Video) PART II’ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvbrVFP_f0w
• ‘All Changes Made to Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back (Comparison Video)’ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmWjPoqEhzg
• ‘All Changes Made to Star Wars: Return of the Jedi (Comparison Video)’ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2obEPFGrMs

^ The informative videos above were made in 2015 - and cover the changes from the OOT through to the 2011 SE release on blu ray.

 

 

For further information on the home releases of the 2006 GOUT DVD release of the Original Trilogy:-

Star Wars Visual Comparisons - Website : Twitter - by doubleofive
Star Wars On Video - Video Collector’s website
Star Wars Home Video Reference website - projectcclarke’s website
Star Wars on DVD (up to 2005) - Prillaman’s website portal
Star Wars Release Info: 1982-2004 - DavisDVD•com website (via Archive•org)
Star Wars - The Changes: 1997-2011 - DVDActive•com website (via Archive•org)
‘Star Wars home video releases’ - at Wookieepedia
‘Original Unaltered Trilogy’ (2006 GOUT DVD) - at Wookieepedia

 

 

A 2006 GOUT DVD Release poster:-

 

 

General online articles about the 2006 GOUT DVD Release:-

 
BluRay.com page for the 2006 GOUT DVD Release - at bluray•com
Original Star Wars Trilogy DVD Artwork Online - at MovieWeb
Star Wars On DVD – Again - at CBS News
Han shoots first on DVD - by CNet
Original Version of Star Wars Trilogy Coming to DVD - by AWN
Star Wars Trilogy to Be Released in Non-Anamorphic Widescreen Video - by MovieWeb
Who’s The More Foolish… The Fool Or The Fool Who Buys His Non-Anamorphic DVDs - at Lard Biscuit Enterprises
The unaltered Original Trilogy to be released on DVD (2006) - at TFn (Jedi Council Forums)
Yikes… more OT STAR WARS DVD details have been released and Quint goes on a little rant… - at AICN
The Star Wars Limited Edition Original Theatrical Version - review at CinemaBlend
Star Wars Limited Edition 2006 DVD Review - review at IGN
Star Wars, the GOUT edition… - review at Velocity Reviews
• AVForums Reviews for the 2006 GOUT DVD Release - SW : ESB : ROTJ
• DVDTalk website Reviews for the 2006 GOUT DVD Release: SW : ESB : ROTJ
Star Wars on DVD - Reviews - Star Wars Trilogy Limited Edition - at the Prillaman website
DVDs: Re-release of the Star Wars Trilogy - by Sound & Vision
The Best Ways to Own the Original Star Wars Trilogy - at the redvdit website
‘Star Wars’: Where to Find the Theatrical Versions of the Original Trilogy - at Yahoo
The Glass-Half-Full Gift Of The Only Official Unaltered Star Wars Original Trilogy DVDs - at SyFy•com
Original ‘Star Wars’ films available on DVD, if you’re willing to settle - at The Star Tribune
Why Finding The Original 1977 Star Wars Film Verges On The Impossible - at Inverse
The 2006 Original Trilogy DVDs. Not quite what we wanted. - at Episode Nothing
Original Unaltered Trilogy (2006) - at Wookieepedia

^ If anyone has any suggestions for any online articles on the GOUT release to be included here please post them below - thank you 👍

 
 

Relevant OriginalTrilogy•com threads on the 2006 GOUT DVD release:-

 
Obviously, there are countless OT•com threads about the 2006 GOUT DVD release of the original Trilogy on here - many of which can be found in the ‘Original Trilogy Discussion’, and the ‘Theatrical Cuts vs. Subsequent Releases’ sections of the site.

Here is just a small selection of threads…

The OOT on DVD - then what? - by Figrin_Dan (2004 thread)
Any truth to this? Lucas is releasing the three unaltered ORIGINAL Star Wars films? - by BentMyWookie
IT HAS FINALLY HAPPENED (The OOT being released on DVD) - by Nanner Split
ORIGINAL STAR WARS TRILOGY OUT 09/2006 BY LUCASFILM - by rstammer
We won! - by bomma
What is GOUT? - by 5acrifice
The Reason the OOT was released - by xombie84
How “original” do you think it is going to be…? (the 2006 GOUT DVD release) - by Vess
“GOUT” is not “unaltered”!?!?! - by g-force
The Official 2006 Discs Will Be No Better Than What We Have! - by Neil S. Bulk
Lucas talks about the Sept 12th Release of the O-OT - by CO
Fox France confirms the French OOT release >NOT< to be anamorphic - by Vigo
New DVDs NOT 16x9 - by seventiesfilmnut
Why is the GOUT not anamorphic? - by Johnboy3434
Make your voices heard! (again) - re the 2006 GOUT DVD being in letterbox format - by yanksno1
OOT DVDs - interlaced or progressive? - by Moth3r
The Official Lucasfilm Response - by Neil S. Bulk
Soundtrack for Star Wars OOT DVD? - by BountyHunter
OUT Audio: Pablo Speaks - by Zion
Torn… To buy, or not to buy - by skyranger
O-OT Star Wars “Bonus Disc” menus (www.starwars.com) - by Darth Cracker
The “original crawl” on the new DVD is NOT the original crawl! Screenshot inside! - by zombie84
2006 OT DVD: The Crawl on Star Wars - by Cable-X1
The GOUT crawl - by Darth Editous

So, this is how the DVDs are going to look… - by Laserschwert
2006 OT DVD: Poll: So What are You Going to Do? - by ESHBG (just prior to the release of the GOUT)
We have to buy this set at least to preserve it for the next generation of fans - by CO
Original Trilogy DVD FAQ (Unofficial) - by TheCassidy
Star Wars Trilogy - Original Theatrical Versions: 2006 DVD Flaw List - by Moth3r
What’s missing from GOUT - by Darth Mallwalker
Are the PAL GOUT DVDs upscaled from the NTSC masters? - by Moth3r
What Has Changed? the 2006 OT DVD release… - by THX
It has begun: StarWars.com to celebrate original films - by Zion
SW.com: “First and ONLY Time” - by ESHBG
Star Wars Trilogy tops IGN’s “Most Wanted DVDs” - by sybeman
www.dvdempire.com O-OT pre-orders rankings (updated) - by CO
Even Cosmo Magazine is Talking About the 09/12 Release… - by ESHBG

first viewing of the 2006 OOT dvds - by grifter (re AICN’s preview)
Original Trilogy DVD Article in Total Film - by Jambe Davdar
First Impressions of the OOT … - by The Dark Lord
2006 OT DVD: Got mine! - by MST
My store just got the new DVDs - by Scallenger
2006 OUT DVD to Definitive Collection LD comparison question? - by jhfagan
2006 DVD OOT - by bbbb
For me…it all came out in the end… - by Cable-X1
I heard the 2006 set with the GOUT is now gone… - by American Hominid

Is GOUT resented? - by S_Matt
Which is considered canon, the Special Edition or GOUT? - by knreuben
Question about the 2006 “GOUT” DVDs - by drfsupercenter
A question re the 2006 OT DVD versions - by Farquh
Question about the 2006 dvds I think you call the GOUT - by Vaderisnothayden
9 years ago Lucasfilm announced the GOUT on DVD - by Haarspalter
10th Anniversary of the “GOUT” dvd release - by Knightmessenger
Will you buy the OOT again? - by SW
Could the 2006 DVDs become collector’s items? - by JamesEightBitStar
How George Lucas created the O-OT fanbase… - by CO
When/Why did you become an OT purist? - by DominicCobb
Explaining the shoddy OOT treatment in public - by Vigo
You know you’re an O-OT fan when… - by JennyS1138
Random memories from 1977-83 - by CO
Fondest Memory from the OT Days - by Cable-X1
How do you feel about Star Wars being re-titled A New Hope in 1981? - by ray_afraid

^ If anyone has any suggestions for any OT•com threads on the GOUT release to be included here please post them below - thank you 👍

 

 

 

 

General online articles on the Special Edition changes & releases:-

 
‘Disney+ Should Offer the Star Wars Original Cuts — All of Them’ - at Wired
‘What We Want And How To Make It’ - at SWVC, by doubleofive
‘Special Edition Changes’ at Saving Star Wars, by Zombie84
‘The Star Wars Special Editions’ - at The Star Wars Trilogy
‘15 Changes to the Original ‘Star Wars’ Trilogy That Still Make Us Crazy’ - at Yahoo Entertainment
‘Star Wars Original Trilogy Changes: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly’ - at ScreenRant
‘Who Shot First? The Complete List Of Star Wars Changes’ (actually, it is more of an overview) - at Empire Online
‘Greedo Shoots First’ and ‘Greedo Shoots First, Take 4: Maclunkey’ - at SWVC, by doubleofive
‘Star Wars: 10 Worst Crimes Against the Original Trilogy’ - at Den Of Geek
‘The 12 Worst Changes George Lucas Made To Star Wars’ - at Goliath
‘How Star Wars’ Special Edition Ruined Mos Eisley’s Scum & Villainy’ - at ScreenRant
‘Star Wars: Why Do People Hate Vader’s Added Line in ROTJ So Much?’ - at CheatSheet
‘The Version of Star Wars on Disney+ Changes the Canon Once Again’ - at Wired
‘J.J. Abrams Wants The Original Star Wars Trilogy Theatrical Cuts To Be Released Again’ - at ScreenRant
‘The Star Wars Blu-Ray Blues’ - at Saving Star Wars (debunking Lucas’ 2010 claim of the ‘difficulties’ in restoring the OOT)
‘Save Star Wars’ - doubleofive’s Blog article (re Lucas’ disingenuous 2010 comments on the ‘difficulties’ of restoring the OOT)
‘Untouched is impossible: the story of Star Wars in film’ - 2010 article at ARS Technica
‘Could Disney finally give us the remastered, unedited Star Wars we want?’ - 2017 article at ARS Technica

 
 

General OT•com threads covering the unaltered theatrical version & releases:-

 
An Index & Help Thread for ‘Original Trilogy Discussion’
An Index & Help Thread for ‘Theatrical Cuts vs. Subsequent Releases’
Complete Comparison of Special Edition Visual Changes
An OriginalTrilogy.com Timeline | a history of the site | the why & how it came to be…
George Lucas: Unreliable Narrator & Time Travelling Revisionist
A celebration of the Original Trilogy | Some informative threads | How you can help…
Articles & info that highlight / call for a classic version release of the Original Trilogy
4K restoration on Star Wars

Modern SE Revisionism
Reasoning Behind Changes from Release to Release
It seems like nobody involved in the making of the OT has spoken up about GL’s oppression of the OOT
You’d think they’d clean this up - the unfixed issues of the 2004 OT SE DVD release…
What HASN’T changed on the 2011 OT SE Blu-ray release – the uncorrected mistakes…
Uncorrected mistakes or unfixed issues of the 2019 (Maclunkey) Original Trilogy release?
Credits & Leaders Thread

 

 

 

 

‘The changes to the Original Trilogy films & general Special Edition discussion’ threads:-

 
• The OOT : link (1977-96 & the 2006 GOUT DVD release)
• 1997 SE : link
• 2004 SE : link
• 2006 GOUT : link
• 2011 SE : link
• 2019 SE : link
• 2026 SE : link (“Somehow… Lucas has returned!”) - a possible future SE release (though unlikely)

 
 

If you know of any articles or OT•com threads that are relevant, or would improve this thread, please post them below - thank you.

 

The content of thread was originally part of the The OOT : The changes to the OT films & general (1977-96) discussion thread - though after a few suggestions from other members it seemed a good idea for the 2006 GOUT Release to have its own thread instead, so here we are!

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#1383931
Topic
<strong>2026 SE</strong> : The changes to the OT films &amp; general 2026 (or future) SE discussion thread
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Gonk-DB94 said:

Fated-Dualist said:

There may be a couple more other projects of his to finish too, if I can convince him. Though they’ll be a while off, and these threads aren’t even finished yet (the relevant OT•com threads are still to found, read through, and added).

You have my attention, what sort of future project threads to do or finish?

The list of project threads that ooj sent me that he was working on, or was planning to work on, before he left the site due to the ongoing brigading and harassment

(click on the ‘Expand’ button below):

  1. A ‘#ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy’ thread. A placeholder thread for info on how to politely contact Lucasfilm + Disney > (write, phone & twitter etc) and let them know fans still want the OOT released (on a modern HD format etc). Basically a continuation / update of ADM’s letter writing campaign from ‘back in the day’. A thread to give members the opportunity to contribute in the ‘fight’ for what so many members and the site still want - an offical release. (Also another good place for highlighting the facts and history of the OOT, Lucasfilms & GL’s contradictory and disingenuous statements.)

^ a final draft of this is complete - though ‘requires editing and polishing’. ✔️
 

2. Find quotes on the OOT being the preferred version / wanting a release of… etc, by people in and around Star Wars - including the crew / talent who worked on them.

^ ‘completed’ recently, (by me Fated) - in the It seems like nobody involved in the making of the OT has spoken up about GL’s oppression of the OOT thread ✔️
 

3. To create an Index & Help thread of popular / high post count threads in the ‘Technical and How To’ section of the site - to highlight oft-asked questions & posts (and point newer members to some of the more oft-repeated questions / FAQs before making further threads about oft-asked and already answered questions).

^ done & posted by Gonk: An Index of some OT•com threads from ‘How-To’s and Technical Discussions’… ✔️
 

4. Individual ‘SE changes and general discussion’ threads for each of the main OT releases (inc an OOT and also possible / hypothetical future release); OOT, '97, '04, '11, '19, '26 😉 Use images and gifs to break up any walls of text. Include general online articles as well as OT.com threads in each thread.

^ overview with some articles and categories already indexed for each individual thread. To complete. If decent / a good idea, to ask Jay to ‘sticky’ them in the ‘Theatrical Cuts vs Subsequent Releases’ section so they are all together and easy to find - as introduction type threads for new members to read up & join in on?. ✔️

^ completed by me (Fated).
 

  1. A centralised ‘current situation’ / ‘How easy / difficult would it be to restore and release the unaltered theatrical version of the OT on a modern home digital format?’ thread; an info thread on the current situation as to the OUT & what it would take on a restoration / technical level for an official release to happen… (despite George’s previous claims). Include links to relevant articles and other OT.com threads of note (including fan projects). Also note about the colour timing, differing sound mix options of the OOT etc.
     

  2. A centralised audio version of doubleofive’s ‘Star Wars Visual Comparisons’ project thread - or something akin to it. To list or index info on the various audio mixes / options (+ 35mm vs 70mm etc) for the differing pre-1997 SE releases on home releases. To link to many articles and OT.com threads on the subject.

^ done and posted by Gonk: ‘An Index of OT•com threads on all things the Audio of the Original Trilogy…✔️
 

I edited in above where a couple of the project threads have been completed and posted on here by myself (with permission of ooj). To me, each project ooj lists would be a big benefit for the OT.com and members here, though others may disagree.

I’ll try and attempt ‘Number 3’ in a few weeks, yet the other thread projects are way beyond my knowledge or capability. I hope others on here, with that knowledge, capability and energy may take them on, or do their own similar project thread for some of the ideas above. Maybe?

 

Edit - just Number 5 to do:-

A ‘How easy / difficult would it be to restore and release the unaltered theatrical version of the OT on a modern home digital format?’ thread. Anyone?

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#1383617
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<strong>Coronavirus</strong> (COVID-19) Pandemic thread - <strong>relevant political discussion allowed</strong> in here
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In the UK:

‘When SAGE called for short lockdown 5 weeks ago, UK had 4,964 new cases a day, 1,502 Covid patients in hospital, 28 deaths.

Yesterday, there were 21,915 new cases, 10,000 Covid patients in hospital, 326 deaths.’

^ ‘Covid: Johnson’s U-turn puts England under tough new lockdown’ - from The Guardian

 

and the UK Government once again treats the North, Scotland, Wales and N. Ireland differently form the south and the capital. 67% of wages for the rest of you - until London is affected then it is suddenly up to 80%… despite arguing with the rest of the country just days prior about how they couldn’t afford it. Strange, that.

https://twitter.com/david_conn/status/1322624105741471744

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#1383556
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<strong>2026 SE</strong> : The changes to the OT films &amp; general 2026 (or future) SE discussion thread
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StarkillerAG said:

Are we sure that Fated-Dualist isn’t an oojason sock? 😉

Hah! That’s a big compliment, I think. Thanks 😃

Though no, I’m not, and nor are the other members who were recently accused by someone of being socks (in a wholly more serious manner). I’d say ooj had completed around 50% of this project before I finally convinced him to let me continue it and sent it me on. The idea, layout and many of the categories included are certainly his.

There may be a couple more other projects of his to finish too, if I can convince him. Though they’ll be a while off, and these threads aren’t even finished yet (the relevant OT•com threads are still to found, read through, and added).

5th Nov Edit: The OT•com threads for inclusion in these 6-part OOT/SE threads are all now complete! Phew!

^ If anyone has any suggestions for any further OT•com threads to be included please post them in the relevant thread - thank you
 

In all seriousness, nice threads! I’m sure these will be good resources. Just one problem though, did you really need to put the Yavin gif in every single thread? It gets a bit repetitive seeing it six times in a row.

Thanks for the ‘nice threads’ 👍

Some people may only be interested in certain Special Editions so I thought it best to include the Yavin gif in each thread. Given it is quite a ‘big thing’ occurring (and recent find by doubleofive) since the '97SE through to the '19SE it kinda made sense to have them in all of the threads. As ooj says, images and gifs can help break up the ‘wall of text = losing interest’ feeling in some lengthier posts.

Plus, anything that points more people to the work and findings of doubleofive’s tireless SWVC project and articles is only a good thing.

 

doubleofive said:

My name is doubleofive, and I approve these threads.

I am both honoured and humbled. (and I’ll let oojason know of your kind endorsement too!)

Vote 005!

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#1383481
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💡 An <strong>Index &amp; Help Thread</strong> for <strong><em>Theatrical Cuts vs. Subsequent Releases</em></strong>... 💡
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For anyone wishing to chat about specific the Special Edition releases - and changes made for them. As well as a possible (though unlikely) future SE release. And of course, a discussion thread for the changes made to the OOT films (before the 1997 Special Edition), along with a separate thread for the 2006 GOUT DVD release…

‘The Changes to the Original Trilogy films & general Special Edition discussion threads’:-

• The OOT : link (1977-96)

• 1997 SE : link

• 2004 SE : link

• 2006 GOUT : link

• 2011 SE : link

• 2019 SE : link

• 2026 SE : link (“Somehow… Lucas has returned!”); a possible future SE release - though unlikely…
 

Mods, if you feel the above are worthy or helpful threads is it possible for them to be added to ooj’s Index above?
 

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#1383476
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<strong>The OOT</strong> : The changes to the OT films &amp; general OOT (1977-96) discussion thread
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The Unaltered Original Theatrical Version of the Original Trilogy…

The changes made to the Original Trilogy films from 1977 to 1996…

 

 

Introduction:-

 
To any Rebels, Imperials, Guild Members and the dedicated scum and villainy from the OT•com reading this…
 

This is just one of a seven-part set of linked threads (see the end of this post for the links) to talk about each of the four main ‘Special Edition’ releases and the respective changes made to them over time - including a post for the original unaltered theatrical version, and also an unlikely scenario where “Somehow Lucas has returned!” with more changes made in yet another improbable future release.

The reason for these threads is try and help inform, educate and highlight any new fans who are unaware or are uninitiated with some the history of these continuing changes made to the three iconic Original Trilogy films (or be a reminder for me some of more forgetful members here). As well as highlighting a lack of release for the Original Trilogy films in their classic pre-1997 Special Edition version, and also about some of the changes & tweaks made to the groundbreaking and award-winning OT films from 1977 to 1996 too…

To serve as a centralised discussion and information thread for each of the main Original Trilogy releases… and also an archive of some of the quality threads and posts on the subject which has taken place on here down the years - as well as any useful, insightful or informative articles elsewhere.

Or a chance to just chat some more about the specific & differing releases of the Original Trilogy, and in this thread, about the changes made to the 3 classic films… before the 1997 Special Edition release 😃
 

Much credit to oojason for sending me his plans & ideas for the incomplete version of these threads - ‘I will finish what you started!’
 

Below is some hopefully useful & introductory information on the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy films (or simply a reminder for us oldies)… 😉

 
 

The Announcement (+ Promo material) for the classic theatrical version of the films:-

 

Star Wars : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZUmYF7xwYg
 

Empire Strikes Back : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWLksS3wtWA
 

Return Of The Jedi : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZUmYF7xwYg

 

• Charles Lippincott’s (RIP) informative and treasure-trove blog (especially in regards to publicity of Star Wars '77):-

http://therealcharleslippincott.blogspot.com (he was the vice president of advertising, publicity, promotion & merchandising)

 

• Star Wars official website article (from 2015) on the Original Trilogy VHS releases over the years:-

https://www.starwars.com/news/collectibles-from-the-outer-rim-star-wars-vhs-releases

 

• Star Wars official website article (from 2015) on the US rleases and re-releases of the Original Trilogy over the years:-

https://www.starwars.com/news/the-star-wars-saga-us-release-and-re-release-history

 
 

‘One Last Time’ VHS video advert from 1995…:-

'Star Wars Trilogy “One Last Time” THX VHS Promo (1995) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAM8eDtN3mY

^ The voice-over quotes from the above advert:-

"For those who remember
For those who will never forget
And for a whole new generation who will experience it for the very first time…

The Star Wars Trilogy…
Three timeless adventures which changed movie-making forever!
Now, the entire Trilogy digitally remastered in THX for the ultimate in sound and picture quality.

This will be your last chance to own the original version of Star Wars…
The George Lucas masterpiece that launched the Star Wars Trilogy.
The Force is forever - for all generations!"

^ Unfortunately the “The Force is forever - for all generations!” obviously no longer applies - it has been now 25 years since the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy received a dedicated release. A whole generation missing out on the option of buying and experiencing an official release of the iconic and award-winning classic theatrical version…

 
 

For information on the 2006 GOUT DVD release the following threads may be of some assistance:-

2006 GOUT : The changes to the OT films & general 2006 GOUT discussion thread

An OriginalTrilogy.com Timeline | a history of the site | the why & how it came to be…

George Lucas: Unreliable Narrator & Time Travelling Revisionist

^ To date, the 2006 GOUT bonus disc release is the only time the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy has been officially available to buy and experience in your home. It was based on transfer from a 1993 laserdisc releases, in an obsolete letterboxed widescreen format, and with DNR quality issues affecting image quality throughout.

 
 

Sources Of Information:-

 
‘What are the changes & tweaks made to the Original Trilogy films before the release of the 1997 Special Editions’:-
 

‘Theatrical and Video History of The Star Wars Trilogy…for beginners’ - at the hifi celluloid monster

‘Every Version Of The Original Star Wars Movies Explained’ - at ScreenRant (includes info on changes made prior to 1997 SE)

Title change of Star Wars to ‘A New Hope’, becoming ‘Episode IV’, Empire being ‘Episode V’ (not ‘Star Wars 2’), and more… - at Inverse

‘The real reason George Lucas started Star Wars with Episode 4’ - at Looper

‘Why Was “Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope” Originally Released Under Another Title?’ - at The Take

‘Theatrical Audio Resources’ (an insightful & informative article on the many OT audio mixes pre-97SE) - at Saving Star Wars

‘Star Wars: what is the ‘definitive’, original 1977 edition anyway?’ - at Episode Nothing

‘The Original First-Week Engagements Of “Star Wars”’ - at In 70mm

‘The Original 70mm Engagements Of “The Empire Strikes Back”’ - at In 70mm

‘The Sounds of a Galaxy Far, Far Away’ - at Wide Angle Close Up

‘Star Wars Audio Mixes’ (with a compendium of links to many OT•com threads on the subject) - at the David Ely website

^ If anyone has any recommendations or suggestions for subjects or more articles to be added please post them below - thank you 👍

 
 

Since the 1997 Special Editions through to the 2019 Maclunkey releases (all credit to doubleofive)

Never forget that the Death Star has been in clear site of Yavin IV from the beginning of the battle since 1997 and this is how the Special Edition should have ended.':-

www.wired.com/story/put-original-star-wars-on-disney-plus (and scroll down to the ‘The Game Breaker’ section)

 
 

^ Just one of many VHS, Super 8, CED, VCD & laserdisc release videos from the comprehensive ‘Nathan P Butler’ YouTube channel
 

From the Star Wars Home Video Library #345: The Third ANH CED’:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5oMfOj2yTM - 8 minute video, from the Nathan P Butler YouTube channel.
 

From the Star Wars Home Video Library #1.2: Super 8 Update #2’:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oicd8JHbR2w - 20 minute video, from the Nathan P Butler YouTube channel.
 

From the Star Wars Home Video Library #132: An Early Japanese ANH Laserdisc’:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZo-3tmpyyw - 9 minute video, from the Nathan P Butler YouTube channel.

 

 

• The Opening Post of the ‘Complete Comparison of Special Edition Visual Changes’ OT•com thread has an index for multiple source of information on many of the changes made to the Original Trilogy films over the years.

 

 

All Changes Made to Star Wars Original Trilogy’ - at the superb Marcelo Zuniga YouTube Channel

• ‘All Changes Made to Star Wars: A New Hope (Comparison Video) PART I’ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNbzSH84mj0
• ‘All Changes Made to Star Wars: A New Hope (Comparison Video) PART II’ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvbrVFP_f0w
• ‘All Changes Made to Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back (Comparison Video)’ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmWjPoqEhzg
• ‘All Changes Made to Star Wars: Return of the Jedi (Comparison Video)’ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2obEPFGrMs

^ The informative videos above were made in 2015 - and cover the changes from the OOT through to the 2011 SE release on blu ray.

 

 

For further information on the home releases of the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy:-

Star Wars Visual Comparisons - Website : Twitter - by doubleofive
Star Wars On Video - Video Collector’s website
Star Wars Home Video Reference website - projectcclarke’s website
Star Wars on DVD (up to 2005) - Prillaman’s website portal
Star Wars Release Info: 1982-2004 - DavisDVD•com website (via Archive•org)
Star Wars - The Changes: 1997-2011 - DVDActive•com website (via Archive•org)
‘Star Wars home video releases’ - at Wookieepedia
‘Original Unaltered Trilogy’ - at Wookieepedia

 
 

A ‘3-in-1’ Original Trilogy theatrical re-release poster:-

 

 

General online articles supporting an official release of the unaltered theatrical cuts:-

 
Articles & info that highlight / call for a classic version release of the Original Trilogy : OT•com thread featuring 50+ articles on the subject.

 
 

Relevant OriginalTrilogy•com threads on the unaltered theatrical version:-

 
Obviously, there are countless OT•com threads about the theatrical version of the original Trilogy on here - many of which can be found in the ‘Original Trilogy Discussion’, in the ‘Theatrical Cuts vs. Subsequent Releases’, and the ‘Star Wars Preservation’ sections of the site.

Here is just a small selection of threads…

How many pre-SE versions exist? _- by pittrek _
Is there a list for Pre 97 Versions and their changes both audio/visual ? - by Afton Robotics
The Theatrical Differences - by ChainsawAsh
Print variations in '77 Star Wars - by mysycamore
70mm Print info Hope its Useful - by StarWarsFan1976
George Lucas’ Technicolor print - by kujythrgefdw
The Academy Award winning editing of Episode IV - by RepDetect
1977/1981/1997 Crawl Differences - by Darth Lucas
In search of the correct colors for ANH… - by yotsuya
Original Trilogy: Luke’s lightsaber color - by Agahnim32
Luke’s saber appears to be green in the making of Star wars documentary - by danny_boy
Original colour of Luke and Obiwan’s lightsabres - by theprequelsrule
Lapti Nek appreciation thread - by DominicCobb
The Surprisingly Strange Story of “Lapti Nek” - by AntcuFaalb
Lapti Nek History and Intrigue - by none
The Definitive - tractor beam - Close the blast doors - Blast it, Biggs/Wedge - you don’t taste very good - Noooooo!!!" - Preservation Guide - by russs15
Am I the only one who prefers the old ewok music? - by swfan_79
The original ending of Ponda Baba - by pittrek
R2 doesn’t taste very good - by jeffreyschmid
The lost song from Jabba’s palace - by lord3vil
“Close the blast doors” - by stealthboy
Beru’s voice - by Moth3r
Voice dubbing in the first film - by TServo2049
Star Wars sound mixes - by Moth3r
Hopefully the last 70mm vs. 35mm ESB audio differences thread - by morgands1
70mm 6-Track Dolby Stereo mix differences - by mysycamore
Questions about audio mixes - by Vaderisnothayden
Pre-'97 VHS sound mixes? - by clutchins
A New Hope: Theatrical 1977 stereo mix vs. 1993 stereo mix - by SpacemanDoug
Question about the 85 mix - by Vaderisnothayden
Project: The other differences in the SW mono mix - by TServo2049
I thought this was interesting - sound differences in OT releases - by 20th Century Mark
OT Audio Changes - by SkyderHouseMafia

How many home video masters are there for the original trilogy? - by MisterBuggles
Difference between the theatrical versions and the first VHS home releases? - by J00CE
Star Wars on RCA CED Format - by StarWarsFan1976
Anyone still watch the LD releases? - by bigmonkey2382
1992 Full Screen versions are the best way to watch Star Wars - by 1990osu
1992 VHS release of the OT - by theprequelsrule
1992 vs 1995 video releases - by arcadayn
What was changed for 1995 THX version? - by Cthulhunicron
I’m finally getting the OOT on vhs - by MathUser
“Best” home releases of the pre-SE original trilogy? - by Sigmoid

I say forget the OOT on DVD, lets target HD-DVD/Blue Ray Now - by CO
The Special Edition wasn’t needed - by bkev
Lucas talks DVD’s, Special Edition’s, OT and TV Series - by Jambe Davdar
George Lucas’ explanation why the OT is obsolete to him - by Master Sifo-Dyas
Here’s my stance - by casuallimp
“They belong to Lucas and are his to change” - by Zombie Chewbacca
Lucas changes the OT to better suit his PT - by Luke Skywalker
Remember what Lucas said about the OOT not existing…? - by MeBeJedi
The audio on the Library of Congress’ copyright deposit print of the 1977 Star Wars film - by Ebaillargeon82
“Original Vision” - by Jack Spencer Jr
The Original Vision Post Trilogy: Special Edition - by vote_for_palpatine
What happened to all the original SW prints? - by Vader21
Are the original prints of each film still out there? - by Markdav
Best OUT materials at Lucasfilm? - by THX
Star Wars Negatives and Interpositives - by Cthulhunicron
Evidence of OOT at Lucasfilm? - by Jambe Davdar
George Lucas to host showing of Star Wars “1977” for AFI’s 40th anniversary. - by Mielr
ANH screening with modelmaker Lorne Peterson…WHY ARE THEY SCREENING THE SE?? - by zombie84
Free “farewell” Screening of 1977 Star Wars collector’s print (British I.B. Technicolor) - by Darth Cracker
70mm screening - by Darth Mallwalker (2008 thread)
If George Lucas won’t allow public screenings of the unaltered original trilogy… - by Nien Nunb

Is it Lucas, or Fox, who has prevented the restored OOT release? - by TawnyMadison
Ok, straight up… is this the last time we will ever see the OOT? - by Mike O (2006 thread)
McCallum Wishes OOT Were on Blu-Ray - by 1990osu (2012 thread)
Do you think Disney will release the unaltered versions for DVD and blue ray - by arctofire
Will we ever see the original trilogy released - by https://originaltrilogy.com/user/wymjafett2112/id/17803
"By withholding a DVD release you are ignoring… - by spoRv
More OUT Rerelease Rumors from John Landis! - by bkev
Star Wars theatrical versions not coming in 2015 - by DrDre
“Lucasfilm currently has no plans to release the original versions of Star Wars” - by Alderaan
OOT release not in anyone’s plans… - by DrDre
Celebration 2017 Speculation - by nickd47
Our open letter to Disney and Lucasfilm - by SilverWook
There should be a proper release of the 1977 Star Wars at this point - by kujythrgefdw
If Lucas did a proper oot restoration for blu ray and dvd would he be forgiven for the special editions and the prequels? - by skyjedi2005
The level of acceptability for an “O-OT” - by nohandluke
opinions on film restoration/preservation and how it applies to Star Wars - what do you think should/should not be allowed? - by S_Matt
I want my kids to see the unaltered Original Trilogy in a real theater - by Tighe
George Lucas on the O-OT - by Scruffy
What can Be done to save the real original star wars trilogy from 1977-1983? - by skyjedi2005
Kickstarter Tiers - Getting the OOT on BD - by xhonzi

How George Lucas created the O-OT fanbase… - by CO
When/Why did you become an OT purist? - by DominicCobb
Explaining the shoddy OOT treatment in public - by Vigo
You know you’re an O-OT fan when… - by JennyS1138
Random memories from 1977-83 - by CO
Fondest Memory from the OT Days - by Cable-X1
How do you feel about Star Wars being re-titled A New Hope in 1981? - by ray_afraid
• The ‘Threads Highlighting efforts for a theatrical version of the Original Trilogy’ section of the An Index & Help Thread for Original Trilogy Discussion… may also be of interest.

^ If anyone has any suggestions for any OT•com threads on the OOT/GOUT to be included here please post them below - thank you 👍

 
 

A YouTube video of the original ‘Han Shot First’ scene - and all 4 changes made to it since:-

 

Han Shot First - All Changes Comparison (1977, 1997, 2004, 2011, 2019)’-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcswEZFvGgM - at the OriginalTrilogyDaily YouTube channel (2 mins long)

 

 

General online articles on the Special Edition changes & releases:-

 
‘Disney+ Should Offer the Star Wars Original Cuts — All of Them’ - at Wired
‘What We Want And How To Make It’ - at SWVC, by doubleofive
‘Special Edition Changes’ at Saving Star Wars, by Zombie84
‘The Star Wars Special Editions’ - at The Star Wars Trilogy
‘15 Changes to the Original ‘Star Wars’ Trilogy That Still Make Us Crazy’ - at Yahoo Entertainment
‘Star Wars Original Trilogy Changes: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly’ - at ScreenRant
‘Who Shot First? The Complete List Of Star Wars Changes’ (actually, it is more of an overview) - at Empire Online
‘Greedo Shoots First’ and ‘Greedo Shoots First, Take 4: Maclunkey’ - at SWVC, by doubleofive
‘Star Wars: 10 Worst Crimes Against the Original Trilogy’ - at Den Of Geek
‘The 12 Worst Changes George Lucas Made To Star Wars’ - at Goliath
‘How Star Wars’ Special Edition Ruined Mos Eisley’s Scum & Villainy’ - at ScreenRant
‘Star Wars: Why Do People Hate Vader’s Added Line in ROTJ So Much?’ - at CheatSheet
‘The Version of Star Wars on Disney+ Changes the Canon Once Again’ - at Wired
‘J.J. Abrams Wants The Original Star Wars Trilogy Theatrical Cuts To Be Released Again’ - at ScreenRant
‘The Star Wars Blu-Ray Blues’ - at Saving Star Wars (debunking Lucas’ 2010 claim of the ‘difficulties’ in restoring the OOT)
‘Save Star Wars’ - doubleofive’s Blog article (re Lucas’ disingenuous 2010 comments on the ‘difficulties’ of restoring the OOT)
‘Untouched is impossible: the story of Star Wars in film’ - 2010 article at ARS Technica
‘Could Disney finally give us the remastered, unedited Star Wars we want?’ - 2017 article at ARS Technica

 
 

General OT•com threads covering the unaltered theatrical version & releases:-

 
An Index & Help Thread for ‘Original Trilogy Discussion’
An Index & Help Thread for ‘Theatrical Cuts vs. Subsequent Releases’
Complete Comparison of Special Edition Visual Changes
An OriginalTrilogy.com Timeline | a history of the site | the why & how it came to be…
George Lucas: Unreliable Narrator & Time Travelling Revisionist
A celebration of the Original Trilogy | Some informative threads | How you can help…
Articles & info that highlight / call for a classic version release of the Original Trilogy
4K restoration on Star Wars

Modern SE Revisionism
Reasoning Behind Changes from Release to Release
It seems like nobody involved in the making of the OT has spoken up about GL’s oppression of the OOT
You’d think they’d clean this up - the unfixed issues of the 2004 OT SE DVD release…
What HASN’T changed on the 2011 OT SE Blu-ray release – the uncorrected mistakes…
Uncorrected mistakes or unfixed issues of the 2019 (Maclunkey) Original Trilogy release?
Credits & Leaders Thread

 

 

^ https://twitter.com/starwarsviscomp/status/1084857678944325635

 
 

‘The changes to the Original Trilogy films & general Special Edition discussion’ threads:-

 
• The OOT : link (1977-96)
• 1997 SE : link
• 2004 SE : link
• 2006 GOUT : link
• 2011 SE : link
• 2019 SE : link
• 2026 SE : link (“Somehow… Lucas has returned!”) - a possible future SE release (though unlikely)

 
 

If you know of any articles or OT•com threads that are relevant, or would improve this thread, please post them below - thank you.

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2026 Special Editions…

The changes to the Original Trilogy films & general 2026 Special Edition release discussion…

 

^ “Somehow, Lucas returned!”

(and made even more changes for a highly unlikely future Special Edition release. Though you never know…) 😉

 

Introduction:-

 
To any Rebels, Imperials, Guild Members and the dedicated scum and villainy from the OT•com reading this…
 

This is just one of a seven-part set of linked threads (see the end of this post for the links) to talk about each of the four main ‘Special Edition’ releases and the respective changes made to them over time - including a post for the original unaltered theatrical version, and also an unlikely scenario where “Somehow Lucas has returned!” with more changes made in yet another improbable future release.

The reason for these threads is try and help inform, educate and highlight any new fans who are unaware or are uninitiated with some the history of these continuing changes made to the three iconic Original Trilogy films (or be a reminder for me some of more forgetful members here). As well as highlighting a lack of release for the Original Trilogy films in their classic pre-1997 Special Edition version, and also about some of the changes & tweaks made to the groundbreaking and award-winning OT films from 1977 to 1996 too…

To serve as a centralised discussion and information thread for each of the main Original Trilogy releases… and also an archive of some of the quality threads and posts on the subject which has taken place on here down the years - as well as any useful, insightful or informative articles elsewhere.

Or a chance to just chat some more about the specific & differing releases of the Original Trilogy 😃
 

Much credit to oojason for sending me his plans & ideas for the incomplete version of these threads - ‘I will finish what you started!’
 

Below is some hopefully useful & introductory information on a hypothetical 2026 / future Special Edition release of the Original Trilogy films (or simply a reminder for us oldies)… 😉

 
 

The Announcement (+ Promo material) for the 2026 Special Edition:-

 

Such a Special Edition release probably isn’t going to happen…
 

Though if it did… it would be good to see Lucasfilm finally address some of the issues & errors that have gone unfixed and uncorrected in the previous releases of the Original Trilogy films:-

You’d think they’d clean this up - the unfixed issues of the 2004 OT SE DVD release…

What HASN’T changed on the 2011 OT SE Blu-ray release – the uncorrected mistakes…

Uncorrected mistakes or unfixed issues of the 2019 (Maclunkey) Original Trilogy release?

 

Or suggestions for any changes you’d actually like to see in a future Special Edition release…

SE Changes that SHOULD have been made/should be made in the future

“Future Theatrical and DVD Releases” What do we think they will be?

If you could make your own SE change, what would that be?

How the Special Edition Should Have Been

A modest proposal: Should Lucas make more OT changes?

What next for Star Wars - Extended Editions?

 

And some general Special Edition threads :-

What is meant by ‘Special Edition’?

Special Edition Restoration

GL’s “Vision”

Did George actually have an “original vision?”

What HASN’T been changed to reflect GL’s “original intent”

Is there a single Lucasfilm release on blu that has not been tampered with?

Are retrospective changes just fan service?

OT Special Edition haters

Special Edition guilty pleasures

Your Favorite And Least Favorite Special Edition Changes

Most pointless SE change?

Most telling SE moment - by CHEWBAKAspelledwrong

If you could only remove one SE change…?

When did you sense a disturbance in the Force?

Why do you think he does it?

Lucas’ Hypocrisy Strikes Again

It’s Official: George Lucas hates his fans 😛

Lucas is just trolling now - THR Interview

redeeming lucas

There should be a proper release of the 1977 Star Wars at this point

Do you think Disney will release the unaltered versions for DVD and blue ray

Where do I go from here as a SW fan?

How many times have you bought the movies?

What do you think was the best release of the OT at the time it came out?

Which version/release of the Star Wars movies do you watch and why?

 

Rumours (and clickbait) of the OOT possibly being released over the years…

Star Wars: 30th Anniversary (2007 - New Box-set) (2007 rumour thread)

SDCC news - OUT “quite likely” on Blu-ray (2013 rumour thread)

Blu-Ray Of Unaltered Original Trilogy Rumour (2014 rumour thread)

What will the “official” Star Wars blu rays mess up? (2014 rumour thread)

Celebration 2017 Speculation (2017 rumour thread)

^ more to be added in this section…

 
 

Sources Of Information:-

 
‘What has changed?’ articles from StarWars•com for the coming 2026 Special Editions…

Star Wars : coming soon - honest!.. 😉

Empire Strikes Back : coming soon…

Return Of The Jedi : coming soon…

 
 

Since the 1997 Special Editions through to the 2019 SE ‘Maclunkey’ releases (all credit to doubleofive):-

Will the scene make it through into any future Special Edition releases…?

Never forget that the Death Star has been in clear site of Yavin IV from the beginning of the battle since 1997 and this is how the Special Edition should have ended.':-

www.wired.com/story/put-original-star-wars-on-disney-plus (and scroll down to the ‘The Game Breaker’ section)

 
 

All Changes Made to Star Wars Original Trilogy’ - at the superb Marcelo Zuniga YouTube Channel

• ‘All Changes Made to Star Wars: A New Hope (Comparison Video) PART I’ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNbzSH84mj0
• ‘All Changes Made to Star Wars: A New Hope (Comparison Video) PART II’ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvbrVFP_f0w
• ‘All Changes Made to Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back (Comparison Video)’ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmWjPoqEhzg
• ‘All Changes Made to Star Wars: Return of the Jedi (Comparison Video)’ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2obEPFGrMs

^ The informative videos above were made in 2015 - and cover the changes from the OOT through to the 2011 SE release on blu ray.

 
 

For further information on the home releases of the 2026 Special Editions:-

Star Wars Visual Comparisons - Website : Twitter - by doubleofive
Star Wars On Video - Video Collector’s website
Star Wars Home Video Reference website - projectcclarke’s website
Star Wars on DVD (up to 2005) - Prillaman’s website portal
Star Wars Release Info: 1982-2004 - DavisDVD•com website (via Archive•org)
Star Wars - The Changes: 1997-2011 - DVDActive•com website (via Archive•org)
‘Star Wars home video releases’ - at Wookieepedia

 
 

A YouTube video of the original ‘Han Shot First’ scene - and all 4 changes made to it since:-

 

Han Shot First - All Changes Comparison (1977, 1997, 2004, 2011, 2019)’-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcswEZFvGgM - at the OriginalTrilogyDaily YouTube channel (2 mins long)

 

 

• The Opening Post of the ‘Complete Comparison of Special Edition Visual Changes’ OT•com thread has an index for multiple source of information on many of the changes made to the Original Trilogy films over the years.

 

 

General online articles on the Special Edition changes & releases:-

 
‘Disney+ Should Offer the Star Wars Original Cuts — All of Them’ - at Wired
‘What We Want And How To Make It’ - at SWVC, by doubleofive
‘Special Edition Changes’ at Saving Star Wars, by Zombie84
‘The Star Wars Special Editions’ - at The Star Wars Trilogy
‘15 Changes to the Original ‘Star Wars’ Trilogy That Still Make Us Crazy’ - at Yahoo Entertainment
‘Star Wars Original Trilogy Changes: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly’ - at ScreenRant
‘Who Shot First? The Complete List Of Star Wars Changes’ (actually, it is more of an overview) - at Empire Online
‘Greedo Shoots First’ and ‘Greedo Shoots First, Take 4: Maclunkey’ - at SWVC, by doubleofive
‘Star Wars: 10 Worst Crimes Against the Original Trilogy’ - at Den Of Geek
‘The 12 Worst Changes George Lucas Made To Star Wars’ - at Goliath
‘How Star Wars’ Special Edition Ruined Mos Eisley’s Scum & Villainy’ - at ScreenRant
‘Star Wars: Why Do People Hate Vader’s Added Line in ROTJ So Much?’ - at CheatSheet
‘The Version of Star Wars on Disney+ Changes the Canon Once Again’ - at Wired
‘J.J. Abrams Wants The Original Star Wars Trilogy Theatrical Cuts To Be Released Again’ - at ScreenRant
‘The Star Wars Blu-Ray Blues’ - at Saving Star Wars (debunking Lucas’ 2010 claim of the ‘difficulties’ in restoring the OOT)
‘Save Star Wars’ - doubleofive’s Blog article (re Lucas’ disingenuous 2010 comments on the ‘difficulties’ of restoring the OOT)
‘Untouched is impossible: the story of Star Wars in film’ - 2010 article at ARS Technica
‘Could Disney finally give us the remastered, unedited Star Wars we want?’ - 2017 article at ARS Technica

 
 

General OriginalTrilogy•com threads covering the Special Edition changes & releases:-

 
An Index & Help Thread for Original Trilogy Discussion
An Index & Help Thread for Theatrical Cuts vs. Subsequent Releases
Complete Comparison of Special Edition Visual Changes
An OriginalTrilogy.com Timeline | a history of the site | the why & how it came to be…
George Lucas: Unreliable Narrator & Time Travelling Revisionist
A celebration of the Original Trilogy | Some informative threads | How you can help…
Articles & info that highlight / call for a classic version release of the Original Trilogy
4K restoration on Star Wars

Modern SE Revisionism
Reasoning Behind Changes from Release to Release
It seems like nobody involved in the making of the OT has spoken up about GL’s oppression of the OOT
You’d think they’d clean this up - the unfixed issues of the 2004 OT SE DVD release…
What HASN’T changed on the 2011 OT SE Blu-ray release – the uncorrected mistakes…
Uncorrected mistakes or unfixed issues of the 2019 (Maclunkey) Original Trilogy release?
Credits & Leaders Thread

 

 

^ George is probably looking into doing for the 2026 SE release right now… 😉

 
 

‘The changes to the Original Trilogy films & general Special Edition discussion’ threads:-

 
• The OOT : link (1977-96)
• 1997 SE : link
• 2004 SE : link
• 2006 GOUT : link
• 2011 SE : link
• 2019 SE : link
• 2026 SE : link (“Somehow… Lucas has returned!”) - a possible future SE release (though unlikely)
 
 

If you know of any articles or OT•com threads that are relevant, or would improve this thread, please post them below - thank you.

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<strong>2019 SE</strong> : The changes to the OT films &amp; general 2019 SE discussion thread
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2019 Special Editions…

The changes to the Original Trilogy films & general 2019 Special Edition release discussion…

 

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Introduction:-

 
To any Rebels, Imperials, Guild Members and the dedicated scum and villainy from the OT•com reading this…
 

This is just one of a seven-part set of linked threads (see the end of this post for the links) to talk about each of the four main ‘Special Edition’ releases and the respective changes made to them over time - including a post for the original unaltered theatrical version, and also an unlikely scenario where “Somehow Lucas has returned!” with more changes made in yet another improbable future release.

The reason for these threads is try and help inform, educate and highlight any new fans who are unaware or are uninitiated with some the history of these continuing changes made to the three iconic Original Trilogy films (or be a reminder for me some of more forgetful members here). As well as highlighting a lack of release for the Original Trilogy films in their classic pre-1997 Special Edition version, and also about some of the changes & tweaks made to the groundbreaking and award-winning OT films from 1977 to 1996 too…

To serve as a centralised discussion and information thread for each of the main Original Trilogy releases… and also an archive of some of the quality threads and posts on the subject which has taken place on here down the years - as well as any useful, insightful or informative articles elsewhere.

Or a chance to just chat some more about the specific & differing releases of the Original Trilogy 😃
 

Much credit to oojason for sending me his plans & ideas for the incomplete version of these threads - ‘I will finish what you started!’
 

Below is some hopefully useful & introductory information on the 2019 Special Edition release of the Original Trilogy films (or simply a reminder for us oldies)… 😉

 
 

The Announcement (+ Promo material) for the 2019 Special Edition:-

 
There was no announcement for the 2019 Special Edition changes or release of - they simply appeared on 12th November 2019 as part of the Disney+ streaming platform - and were noticed by fans watching the Original Trilogy films on the Disney+ subscription service.
 

There was an official video trailer for ‘The Complete Skywalker Saga’ being available on the Disney+ subscription-based streaming service, which appeared online during April of 2020:-

‘The Complete Skywalker Saga | Star Wars | Disney+’ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsq9i6dsyII

 
 

Sources Of Information:-

 
‘What has changed?’ articles from StarWars•com…

No articles or information has been released for the 2019 Special Edition on the official Star Wars website or other social media platforms.
 

^ from ‘StarWars•com - An Oral History(a 2016 article) : https://www.starwars.com/news/starwars-com-an-oral-history

“November 26 will mark the 20th anniversary of StarWars•com. It’s somewhat hard to believe, considering the site originally launched in support of the Star Wars Trilogy Special Edition — itself a celebration of Star Wars’ same milestone.”

… and yet unfortunately it now doesn’t even inform fans about the changes made to the Star Wars Special Edition releases.

 

However…
 

doublefive wrote three comprehensive articles which appeared on ‘The Digital Bits’ website highlighting the 2019 SE changes:-

Star Wars : https://thedigitalbits.com/featured/articles/sw-new-hope-disneyplus-4k-2019

Empire Strikes Back : https://thedigitalbits.com/featured/articles/sw-empire-disneyplus-4k-2019

Returned Of The Jedi https://thedigitalbits.com/featured/articles/sw-jedi-disneyplus-4k-2019

 
 

OT•com member 13las also came up with this informative video on the changes made to the 2019 SE / Maclunkey release:-

STAR WARS CHANGES (5 of 4) – Disney+ Version’:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESuLxJJFZtE - 11 minute video at the ‘Film Spaced’ YouTube channel.

13las other insightful ‘Changes’ videos on YouTube (5 of 4 😉) can be found here - SW : ESB : ROTJ : Prequels

 
 

Since the 1997 Special Editions through to the 2019 Maclunkey releases (all credit to doubleofive)

Never forget that the Death Star has been in clear site of Yavin IV from the beginning of the battle since 1997 and this is how the Special Edition should have ended.':-

www.wired.com/story/put-original-star-wars-on-disney-plus (and scroll down to the ‘The Game Breaker’ section)

 
 

From the Star Wars Home Video Library #266: The Skywalker Saga (U.S. Release)’:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbY5XAwSLJc - 24 minute video, from the Nathan P Butler YouTube channel.

&

From the Star Wars Home Video Library #339: Aug. 2020 UK Black Border Releases (All 33)(Single film releases):-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGEb9X5l0HQ - 37 minute video, from the Nathan P Butler YouTube channel.

&

From the Star Wars Home Video Library #286: The Skywalker Saga UK Releases(all 3 box sets - 4K UHD, blu ray, and DVD):-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6zt3tlbq1g - 20 minute video, from the Nathan P Butler YouTube channel.

 

 

• The Opening Post of the ‘Complete Comparison of Special Edition Visual Changes’ OT•com thread has an index for multiple source of information on many of the changes made to the Original Trilogy films over the years.

 

 

All Changes Made to Star Wars Original Trilogy’ - at the superb Marcelo Zuniga YouTube Channel

• ‘All Changes Made to Star Wars: A New Hope (Comparison Video) PART I’ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNbzSH84mj0
• ‘All Changes Made to Star Wars: A New Hope (Comparison Video) PART II’ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvbrVFP_f0w
• ‘All Changes Made to Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back (Comparison Video)’ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmWjPoqEhzg
• ‘All Changes Made to Star Wars: Return of the Jedi (Comparison Video)’ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2obEPFGrMs

^ The informative videos above were made in 2015 - and cover the changes from the OOT through to the 2011 SE release on blu ray.

 

 

For further information on the home releases of the 2019 Special Editions:-

Star Wars Visual Comparisons - Website : Twitter - by doubleofive
Star Wars On Video - Video Collector’s website
Star Wars Home Video Reference website - projectcclarke’s website
Star Wars on DVD (up to 2005) - Prillaman’s website portal
Star Wars Release Info: 1982-2004 - DavisDVD•com website (via Archive•org)
Star Wars - The Changes: 1997-2011 - DVDActive•com website (via Archive•org)
‘Star Wars home video releases’ - at Wookieepedia
‘Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga’ - at Wookieepedia

bluray.com’s info pages for the UK releases of the 2019 OT SE 4K / blu ray / DVD single film releases - SW : ESB : ROTJ
bluray.com’s info pages for the UK release of the 2019 SE Skywalker Saga blu ray box set - link
bluray.com’s info pages for the UK release of the 27-disc Skywalker Saga 4K box set - link

 

Much confusion surrounds the differing releases of the 2019 Special Edition around the world - and the availability of it in different regions. At the time of writing this you cannot buy the 2019 SE release on single discs - it has to the be the 27-disc 4K Skywalker Saga (Amazon US link here).

In the rest of the world… over time… it has become possible to be able to buy single release discs of the 2019 Special Edition release (link to Amazon UK here)

And also as a region-free Skywalker Saga blu ray box set (link to Amazon UK here)

Also, you cannot buy the physical release of the 2019 Special Edition on the official Star Wars website…

If you were to click on, for example, the link to ‘Return Of The Jedi’:-

https://www.starwars.com/films/star-wars-episode-vi-return-of-the-jedi

and then click on the ‘Stream / Buy button’ you will be directed to links to Amazon, Target, Walmart, Best Buy - all to the 2011 Special Edition releases, and at a considerable at price too!

 
 

‘Image of the 18-disc 2019 SE ‘Skywalker Saga’ blu ray box set’:-

^ available in most places outside the USA

 

 

Relevant online articles on the 2019 Special Editions:-

 
‘Disney+ viewers reporting more changes to Star Wars’ - at Film Stories UK
‘Han Shot First, but leave Lucas’ edits in Star Wars forever’ - at The Verge
‘A load of ‘MacClunkey’: will George Lucas’s Star Wars tinkering never end?’ - at The Guardian
‘The Han and Greedo shooting scene changed again (and probably not the way you wanted)’ -at The Washington Post
‘Lucasfilm changed Star Wars’ Han vs. Greedo scene again for Disney Plus’ - at Polygon
‘Star Wars (1977-1983) in 4K - with new changes’ - at the Movie Censorship website
‘OH MY GOD IT WAS CHANGED AGAIN - “Maclunkey” - Star Wars Changes’ - at the HelloGreedo YouTube channel
‘Disney Plus Star Wars changes: every difference compared to the Original Trilogy’ - at Total Film
‘Star Wars 27-Disc 4K Blu-ray Box Set Spotted on Best Buy Canada’ - at IGN
‘Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga 4K box set officially unveiled by Disney and Lucasfilm’ - at Flickering Myth
‘Nerdist Unboxes Best Buy Exclusive The Skywalker Saga 27-Disc 4K Blu-ray Boxed Set’ - at Jedi News

^ If anyone has any suggestions for any articles on the 2011 SE to be included here please post them below - thank you 👍

 
 

Relevant OriginalTrilogy•com threads on the 2019 Special Editions:-

 
All Star Wars films released in 4K HDR on Disney Plus: 2019 SE with more changes
Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga 4k UHD – 27 DISC Boxed Set – 3/31/2020
Star Wars trilogy box sets coming next year? (2019 thread)
Changes to the Disney+ 2019 SE of the Original Trilogy
Maclunkey
WIRED’s Article “Disney+ Should Offer the Star Wars Original Cuts”, doubleofive’s Magnum Opus
4K restoration on Star Wars
2020 Blu Rays - are they worth it?
'97 vs. '04 (and '11) - Your preference? - by JawsTDS

^ If anyone has any suggestions for any other OT•com threads to be included here please post them below - thank you 👍

 
 

A YouTube video of the original ‘Han Shot First’ scene - and all 4 changes made to it since:-

 

Han Shot First - All Changes Comparison (1977, 1997, 2004, 2011, 2019)’-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcswEZFvGgM - at the OriginalTrilogyDaily YouTube channel (2 mins long)

 

 

General online articles on the Special Edition changes & releases:-

 
‘Disney+ Should Offer the Star Wars Original Cuts — All of Them’ - at Wired
‘What We Want And How To Make It’ - at SWVC, by doubleofive
‘Special Edition Changes’ at Saving Star Wars, by Zombie84
‘The Star Wars Special Editions’ - at The Star Wars Trilogy
‘15 Changes to the Original ‘Star Wars’ Trilogy That Still Make Us Crazy’ - at Yahoo Entertainment
‘Star Wars Original Trilogy Changes: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly’ - at ScreenRant
‘Who Shot First? The Complete List Of Star Wars Changes’ (actually, it is more of an overview) - at Empire Online
‘Greedo Shoots First’ and ‘Greedo Shoots First, Take 4: Maclunkey’ - at SWVC, by doubleofive
‘Star Wars: 10 Worst Crimes Against the Original Trilogy’ - at Den Of Geek
‘The 12 Worst Changes George Lucas Made To Star Wars’ - at Goliath
‘How Star Wars’ Special Edition Ruined Mos Eisley’s Scum & Villainy’ - at ScreenRant
‘Star Wars: Why Do People Hate Vader’s Added Line in ROTJ So Much?’ - at CheatSheet
‘The Version of Star Wars on Disney+ Changes the Canon Once Again’ - at Wired
‘J.J. Abrams Wants The Original Star Wars Trilogy Theatrical Cuts To Be Released Again’ - at ScreenRant
‘The Star Wars Blu-Ray Blues’ - at Saving Star Wars (debunking Lucas’ 2010 claim of the ‘difficulties’ in restoring the OOT)
‘Save Star Wars’ - doubleofive’s Blog article (re Lucas’ disingenuous 2010 comments on the ‘difficulties’ of restoring the OOT)
‘Untouched is impossible: the story of Star Wars in film’ - 2010 article at ARS Technica
‘Could Disney finally give us the remastered, unedited Star Wars we want?’ - 2017 article at ARS Technica

 
 

General OriginalTrilogy•com threads covering the Special Edition changes & releases:-

 
An Index & Help Thread for Original Trilogy Discussion
An Index & Help Thread for Theatrical Cuts vs. Subsequent Releases
Complete Comparison of Special Edition Visual Changes
An OriginalTrilogy.com Timeline | a history of the site | the why & how it came to be…
George Lucas: Unreliable Narrator & Time Travelling Revisionist
A celebration of the Original Trilogy | Some informative threads | How you can help…
Articles & info that highlight / call for a classic version release of the Original Trilogy
4K restoration on Star Wars

Modern SE Revisionism
Reasoning Behind Changes from Release to Release
It seems like nobody involved in the making of the OT has spoken up about GL’s oppression of the OOT
You’d think they’d clean this up - the unfixed issues of the 2004 OT SE DVD release…
What HASN’T changed on the 2011 OT SE Blu-ray release – the uncorrected mistakes…
Uncorrected mistakes or unfixed issues of the 2019 (Maclunkey) Original Trilogy release?
Credits & Leaders Thread

 

 

 
 

‘The changes to the Original Trilogy films & general Special Edition discussion’ threads:-

 
• The OOT : link (1977-96)
• 1997 SE : link
• 2004 SE : link
• 2006 GOUT : link
• 2011 SE : link
• 2019 SE : link
• 2026 SE : link (“Somehow… Lucas has returned!”) - a possible future SE release (though unlikely)

 
 

If you know of any articles or OT•com threads that are relevant, or would improve this thread, please post them below - thank you.

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<strong>2011 SE</strong> : The changes to the OT films &amp; general 2011 SE discussion thread
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2011 Special Editions…

The changes to the Original Trilogy films & general 2011 Special Edition release discussion…

 

 

Introduction:-

 
To any Rebels, Imperials, Guild Members and the dedicated scum and villainy from the OT•com reading this…
 

This is just one of a seven-part set of linked threads (see the end of this post for the links) to talk about each of the four main ‘Special Edition’ releases and the respective changes made to them over time - including a post for the original unaltered theatrical version, and also an unlikely scenario where “Somehow Lucas has returned!” with more changes made in yet another improbable future release.

The reason for these threads is try and help inform, educate and highlight any new fans who are unaware or are uninitiated with some the history of these continuing changes made to the three iconic Original Trilogy films (or be a reminder for me some of more forgetful members here). As well as highlighting a lack of release for the Original Trilogy films in their classic pre-1997 Special Edition version, and also about some of the changes & tweaks made to the groundbreaking and award-winning OT films from 1977 to 1996 too…

To serve as a centralised discussion and information thread for each of the main Original Trilogy releases… and also an archive of some of the quality threads and posts on the subject which has taken place on here down the years - as well as any useful, insightful or informative articles elsewhere.

Or a chance to just chat some more about the specific & differing releases of the Original Trilogy 😃
 

Much credit to oojason for sending me his plans & ideas for the incomplete version of these threads - ‘I will finish what you started!’
 

Below is some hopefully useful & introductory information on the 2011 Special Edition release of the Original Trilogy films (or simply a reminder for us oldies)… 😉

 
 

The Announcement (+ Promo material) for the 2011 Special Edition:-

 

• ‘George Lucas Announces Star Wars on Blu-Ray at Celebration V’:-

^ The above image from the official Star Wars website is no longer functioning. However, it can still be accessed here:-

https://web.archive.org/web/20100816010259/http://www.starwars.com/themovies/saga/mebd/bluray/index.html

 

Star Wars The Complete Saga on Blu-Ray Trailer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvS3OUNKHZw (2 minutes)

 

• ‘The Star Wars Saga on blu ray’:-

^ The above image from the official Star Wars website is no longer functioning. However, it can still be accessed here:-

https://web.archive.org/web/20110923151508/http://www.starwars.com/news/starwars_blu-ray.html

 
 

Sources Of Information:-

 
‘What has changed?’ article from doubleofive’s ‘Star Wars Visual Comparisons’ website:

^ at https://starwarsviscomp.wordpress.com/versions/11se

 
 

Since the 1997 Special Editions through to the 2019 Maclunkey releases (all credit to doubleofive)

Never forget that the Death Star has been in clear site of Yavin IV from the beginning of the battle since 1997 and this is how the Special Edition should have ended.':-

www.wired.com/story/put-original-star-wars-on-disney-plus (and scroll down to the ‘The Game Breaker’ section)

 
 

From the Star Wars Home Video Library #20: The Live Action Blu-Rays (2011 - 2013)’:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCUBxgGrZc8 - 25 minute video, from the Nathan P Butler YouTube channel.

 

 

• The Opening Post of the ‘Complete Comparison of Special Edition Visual Changes’ OT•com thread has an index for multiple source of information on many of the changes made to the Original Trilogy films over the years.

 

 

All Changes Made to Star Wars Original Trilogy’ - at the superb Marcelo Zuniga YouTube Channel

• ‘All Changes Made to Star Wars: A New Hope (Comparison Video) PART I’ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNbzSH84mj0
• ‘All Changes Made to Star Wars: A New Hope (Comparison Video) PART II’ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvbrVFP_f0w
• ‘All Changes Made to Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back (Comparison Video)’ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmWjPoqEhzg
• ‘All Changes Made to Star Wars: Return of the Jedi (Comparison Video)’ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2obEPFGrMs

^ The informative videos above were made in 2015 - and cover the changes from the OOT through to the 2011 SE release on blu ray.

 

 

For further information on the home releases of the 2011 Special Editions:-

Star Wars Visual Comparisons - Website : Twitter - by doubleofive
Star Wars On Video - Video Collector’s website
Star Wars Home Video Reference website - projectcclarke’s website
Star Wars on DVD (up to 2005) - Prillaman’s website portal
Star Wars Release Info: 1982-2004 - DavisDVD•com website (via Archive•org)
Star Wars - The Changes: 1997-2011 - DVDActive•com website (via Archive•org)
‘Star Wars home video releases’ - at Wookieepedia
‘Star Wars: The Complete Saga’ - at Wookieepedia

 
 

The 2015 Digital Release (still the 2011 Special Editions):-

 
In 2015 it was announced the 2011 Special Edition releases would be available as a Digital Movie Collection…

https://www.starwars.com/news/the-star-wars-digital-movie-collection-coming-april-10
 

‘Star Wars: The Digital Movie Collection’ trailer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuNhZ8K4iow
 

a couple of comprehensive and intriguing articles on the ‘Digital Movie Collection’:-

https://www.laughingplace.com/w/articles/2015/04/11/star-wars-the-digital-movie-collection-review
https://www.laughingplace.com/w/articles/2015/04/08/star-wars-the-digital-movie-collection-pros-and-cons

 
 

From the Star Wars Home Video Library Intermission #2: The Digital HD Collection’:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtwQQyatC3c - 33 minute video, at the Nathan P Butler YouTube channel.

 

 

‘a 2011 SE Original Trilogy blu ray release poster’:-

 

 

Relevant online articles on the 2011 Special Editions:-

 
“Archiving seminar reveals ‘Star Wars’ tidbit?” Another SE?! - by Jambe Davdar (2009 thread)
‘Star Wars on Blu-ray: George, don’t do that …’ - at The Guardian (2010 article)
Star Wars on Blu-ray: what surprises does LucasFilm have in store? (2011) - at The Guardian
‘The Star Wars Blu-Ray Blues’ - at Saving Star Wars
‘The ‘Star Wars’ Films Have Been Changed Again On Blu-ray’ - at Slash Film
‘Lucasfilm Confirms Change to Blu-ray Release of ‘Return of the Jedi’’ - at New York Times (via the Internet Archive)
Blu-ray: Some More Tinkering With The Saga? - at TheForce•net
‘New Star Wars: Blu-Ray release of original trilogy contains yet more changes’ - at CS Monitor
‘George Lucas issues yet more changes for ‘Star Wars’ Blu-ray – video’ - at NME
‘So About Those Changes on the Star Wars Blu-rays…’ - at IGN
‘Hardcore Fans Call For Boycott Of George Lucas’ Altered ‘Star Wars Saga’ On Blu-Ray’ - at Deadline
‘Star Wars: The Complete Saga’ - at Hi Def Digest
‘Jamie Benning reviews the Star Wars Trilogy on blu ray’ - at Wired
‘Star Wars: Original Trilogy Blu-ray Review’ - at AV Forums
‘That Wars: The Complete Saga (blu ray review)’ - at The Digital Bits
‘Star Wars: The Complete Saga (blu ray review)’ - at Collider

^ If anyone has any suggestions for any articles on the 2011 SE to be included here please post them below - thank you 👍

 
 

Relevant OriginalTrilogy•com threads on the 2011 Special Editions:-

 
Star Wars on Blu in 2011? - by captainsolo (a 2009 thread)
Star Wars Movies on Blu-ray (and some documentary) News - by digitalfreaknyc (a 2009 thread)
Star Wars coming to Blu Ray (UPDATE: August 30 2011, No! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!) - by Adium
So you think george lucas will do this again? - by luke.the.darkside.is.fun
I will refuse to buy STAR WARS on bluray! - by Jedi Temple34
Besides “The films need to be the way I want them,” has Lucas stated anything as to why the Blu-rays became the travesty that they are? - by The Terminator
Do you think George Lucas will correct the colors for the blu-ray release? - by Janskeet
Will the color of the star wars films episodes 4-6 be fixed for the blu-ray release? - by kenkraly2007
OOT Letter Writing Campaign for Blu Ray release - by zombie84
FACEBOOK PAGE & Sticker Campaign - by Mielr
What does the blu-ray set have to offer? - by Judge
Does it depress you… - by S_Matt
Cultural impact can’t be steered - by Anchorhead
New Blu Ray Special Editions - by Darth Bizarro
What was your first reaction to Vader’s “Noooo” in ROTJ? - by Windows7Guy100
Star Wars Blu Ray Impressions - by zombie84
Blu Ray movies look…wrong - by theprequelsrule
Should I buy the Original Trilogy Blu ray? I already have the 2004 DVD. - by knreuben
Finally ordered Blu Rays of original series - by MathUser
With all the changes to the Blu Rays…is there… - by swingbelly
Overlooking all the problems with the blu rays( it’s additions or it’s unfixed problems) is the 1080p pq make it worth the purchase?? - by lordsidi
Digging up those blacks - using the STAR WARS Blu-ray for preservations - by You_Too
Condition of the 2011 Bluray deleted scenes… Quite rough - by RIJIR
So how bad is the 2011 Star Wars sound mix really? - by Funcha
Star Wars Blu-ray and DVD Combo Packs. (Please Read 1st post) - by pat man
Current Star Wars Blu-Ray Going Out of Print? - by XWing4492
Now it’s just getting ridiculous - Obi Wan’s new howl. - by adywan
The Krayt Dragon Call - by The Nerd
What’s Your Favorite Version of the Krayt Dragon Call? - by nightstalkerpoet
2011 Rocks and 2004 Krayt Call in this Clip from Starwars.com - by nickyd47
Source of the sample videos on starwars.com? - by DrDre

Star Wars Digital HD Release … April 10th (2015) - by Jetrell Fo

OT Special Editions to have USA Roadshow Summer '16 - by rpvee

^ If anyone has any suggestions for any other OT•com threads to be included here please post them below - thank you 👍

 
 

A YouTube video of the original ‘Han Shot First’ scene - and all 4 changes made to it since:-

 

Han Shot First - All Changes Comparison (1977, 1997, 2004, 2011, 2019)’-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcswEZFvGgM - at the OriginalTrilogyDaily YouTube channel (2 mins long)

 

 

General online articles on the Special Edition changes & releases:-

 
‘Disney+ Should Offer the Star Wars Original Cuts — All of Them’ - at Wired
‘What We Want And How To Make It’ - at SWVC, by doubleofive
‘Special Edition Changes’ at Saving Star Wars, by Zombie84
‘The Star Wars Special Editions’ - at The Star Wars Trilogy
‘15 Changes to the Original ‘Star Wars’ Trilogy That Still Make Us Crazy’ - at Yahoo Entertainment
‘Star Wars Original Trilogy Changes: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly’ - at ScreenRant
‘Who Shot First? The Complete List Of Star Wars Changes’ (actually, it is more of an overview) - at Empire Online
‘Greedo Shoots First’ and ‘Greedo Shoots First, Take 4: Maclunkey’ - at SWVC, by doubleofive
‘Star Wars: 10 Worst Crimes Against the Original Trilogy’ - at Den Of Geek
‘The 12 Worst Changes George Lucas Made To Star Wars’ - at Goliath
‘How Star Wars’ Special Edition Ruined Mos Eisley’s Scum & Villainy’ - at ScreenRant
‘Star Wars: Why Do People Hate Vader’s Added Line in ROTJ So Much?’ - at CheatSheet
‘The Version of Star Wars on Disney+ Changes the Canon Once Again’ - at Wired
‘J.J. Abrams Wants The Original Star Wars Trilogy Theatrical Cuts To Be Released Again’ - at ScreenRant
‘The Star Wars Blu-Ray Blues’ - at Saving Star Wars (debunking Lucas’ 2010 claim of the ‘difficulties’ in restoring the OOT)
‘Save Star Wars’ - doubleofive’s Blog article (re Lucas’ disingenuous 2010 comments on the ‘difficulties’ of restoring the OOT)
‘Untouched is impossible: the story of Star Wars in film’ - 2010 article at ARS Technica
‘Could Disney finally give us the remastered, unedited Star Wars we want?’ - 2017 article at ARS Technica

 
 

General OriginalTrilogy•com threads covering the Special Edition changes & releases:-

 
An Index & Help Thread for Original Trilogy Discussion
An Index & Help Thread for Theatrical Cuts vs. Subsequent Releases
Complete Comparison of Special Edition Visual Changes
An OriginalTrilogy.com Timeline | a history of the site | the why & how it came to be…
George Lucas: Unreliable Narrator & Time Travelling Revisionist
A celebration of the Original Trilogy | Some informative threads | How you can help…
Articles & info that highlight / call for a classic version release of the Original Trilogy
4K restoration on Star Wars

Modern SE Revisionism
Reasoning Behind Changes from Release to Release
It seems like nobody involved in the making of the OT has spoken up about GL’s oppression of the OOT
You’d think they’d clean this up - the unfixed issues of the 2004 OT SE DVD release…
What HASN’T changed on the 2011 OT SE Blu-ray release – the uncorrected mistakes…
Uncorrected mistakes or unfixed issues of the 2019 (Maclunkey) Original Trilogy release?
Credits & Leaders Thread

 

 

^ https://twitter.com/starwarsviscomp/status/1023961415214747648

 
 

‘The changes to the Original Trilogy films & general Special Edition discussion’ threads:-

 
• The OOT : link (1977-96)
• 1997 SE : link
• 2004 SE : link
• 2006 GOUT : link
• 2011 SE : link
• 2019 SE : link
• 2026 SE : link (“Somehow… Lucas has returned!”) - a possible future SE release (though unlikely)

 
 

If you know of any articles or OT•com threads that are relevant, or would improve this thread, please post them below - thank you.