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#1351812
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Articles & info that highlight / call for a classic version release of the Original Trilogy
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Star Wars Original Cuts Could Be Released, But Disney Won’t Do It’:-

There’s nothing officially holding up a release of the unaltered Star Wars original trilogy. So why won’t Disney release them?

https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/star-wars-original-cuts-could-be-released-but-disney-wont-do-it - 2017 article
 

a snippet…
 

"For the last 20 years, virtually the only way for fans to officially watch Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi has been via the Lucasfilm approved Special Editions, the versions that were “improved” with extra scenes, “modern” special effects, and some needless extra shots. You know exactly what I mean by shots, too.

While director’s cuts and movie tampering is nothing new, it’s relatively rare that these become the only versions available to the public upon their release, but that has been the case with Star Wars. Over the last few years, depending on who you asked, the culprit was either George Lucas, who was famously never satisfied with the final product of his films, rights issues between 20th Century Fox and Disney, and the state of the film prints themselves.

Well, now it turns out that it’s none of the above. Disney could release the original cuts, they simply won’t. The Steelewars Podcast (hat tip to MovieWeb for the transcriptions) caught up with Lucasfilm president Kathleen Kennedy at Star Wars Celebration (where many fans, including this writer and most of the Den of Geek staff, were hoping for news of an original cut Blu-ray release as part of the 40th anniversary festivities), and asked if there were plans for the unaltered version of the trilogy.

There’s little doubt that under Disney and Kathleen Kennedy, Star Wars as a franchise is healthier than it has been in well over a decade, with high quality offerings like The Force Awakens, Rogue One, and Rebels reaffirming fans’ faith in the brand and making new converts by the bucketload. But that very success makes Lucasfilm’s continued reluctance to release the originals in the form they were intended even more disheartening. These are some of the most important science fiction films ever produced, and the fact that fans can’t own the best possible versions of them in their unaltered state is frustrating.

The unaltered trilogy did get one official home media release in the days since the dawn of the Special Editions, on the first DVD release of the trilogy in 2006. The problem is that while those were certainly the original cuts, there was no effort put into the release. Instead, they were considered “bonus features” on the special edition DVDs, and while the special editions were there in remastered glory, the original cuts were hasty laserdisc transfers, and of much lower picture and sound quality than what fans were expecting…or that the movies deserved.

This is why dedicated Star Wars fans have had to take matters into their own hands in recent years, with the famous Despecialized Editions making the rounds. For those who know where to look, the Despecialized Editions are absolutely gorgeous, HD versions of the Star Wars trilogy, without any of the unnecessary “enhancements” of the last 20 years.

Hopefully Ms. Kennedy will have a change of heart."

 
 

Or hopefully remember her previous words and thoughts on tinkering with classic films…

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#1351724
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Articles & info that highlight / call for a classic version release of the Original Trilogy
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George Lucas Approved Rare Pre-Special Edition Star Wars Screening’:-

https://comicbook.com/starwars/news/star-wars-special-edition-original-screening-70mm-rare-lucasfilm - 2019 article
 

the full thing…
 

"In 1997, Star Wars fans were delivered the Special Edition of the original trilogy, allowing them to witness the iconic films with the best sound and visual effects imaginable, while also introducing a new generation of audiences to the galaxy far, far away. While most fans appreciated the technological updates, the films also featured a handful of narrative tweaks that differed from the original films in ways that were difficult to overlook. In the years since those Special Editions were released, George Lucas continued to tweak the films for various home video releases, though a special event over the weekend hosted by the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences featured an original 70mm print of Star Wars: A New Hope along with Rogue One: A Star Wars Story.

“I just got to see Star Wars projected from an immaculate 70mm print,” one viewer tweeted about the experience. “The original Star Wars, pre-special edition (‘A New Hope’ was on the crawl, but otherwise unaltered). It’s an impossible dream come true, and I’m so extremely grateful for this opportunity.”

With it being unclear whether there would ever be an additional movie, the original was released without the “A New Hope” title, with the release of Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back resulting in the original film having “A New Hope” added into the crawl.

One of the biggest alterations between the original film and the Special Edition is that, when Greedo confronts Han in Mos Eisley, the Special Edition depicts Greedo shooting first with Han then retaliating. When the film landed on DVD in 2004, the film was again altered to depict the two characters firing at the same time, with digital effects manipulating Han so he moves out of the way. This is how the scene has played out in all subsequent releases.

In 2011, the Blu-ray release of the original trilogy offered more updates, such as the Ewoks in Star Wars: Return of the Jedi earning digital blinks. The last time the unaltered trilogy was released in an official capacity came in 2006 when a Special Edition DVD release included the unaltered films, though the files came from a laserdisc transfer of the film, with their audio and visual quality lacking compared to the DVD release of the Special Editions.

This past weekend’s screening might mean nothing more than an exciting opportunity for fans, but as the Twitter user noted, this is the first time there has been an official, public screening of the original film since 1997. However, with Lucas no longer having as active a role at Lucasfilm and with Disney acquiring 20th Century Fox, who previously distributed the original films, we can’t help but wonder if this could lead to the original films being made available to the public in some capacity at some point in the future."
 

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#1351551
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Articles & info that highlight / call for a classic version release of the Original Trilogy
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An Uncut and Non-Remastered List of Star Wars Editions!’:-

https://www.tor.com/2015/05/04/an-uncut-and-non-remastered-list-of-star-wars-editions-2 - 2015 article
 

a snippet…
 

"The thing that makes Star Wars truly great is Greedo shooting first. Wait, come back, I’m being serious! The original Star Wars trilogy was an incredible cultural touchstone, and obviously Star Wars merchandise and expanded universe novels created a whole world for fans to inhabit. However, the moment when Star Wars became truly great was the moment in 1997 when a generation of fans had to examine what this film meant to them, and why it was so important that Han shoot first. This moment galvanized an already fervent fandom to, if you don’t mind me mixing my geek metaphors, play Sam Beckett in the SWU, going back to earlier prints of the films to put right what Lucas had made wrong.

Using the sort of film tech popularized by Lucas himself, the fandom dove in and started making new editions of the original trilogy, and then turned their scalpels on each of the prequels. Rather than accepting anything as “canon,” they made their own."
 

and…

"I saw the original trilogy, uncut and pre-specialized, at about the same time that I read Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, and a few weeks before I dove headlong into Star Trek: the Next Generation. I am personally pro-Original Trilogy and anti-prequel, but I come here today not to rant about that—okay, there will be some ranting, but mostly I’m just interested in how many different ways there are to watch these movies.

Plus, George Lucas’ own divided nature fascinates me, as does his fans’ reactions to him. Lucas wants people to have access to more tech, and Lucasfilm held The Official Star Wars Fan Film Awards from 2002 until 2012 (and apparently they’re coming back this year) — Lucas himself bestowed one of the awards. Troops, which showed Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru in a fairly negative light, won the OSWFFA’s Pioneer Award the year it was released. And he liked George Lucas in Love enough to send its creators a congratulatory letter. So he’s evidently okay with fans mucking about in his universe. Which is great!

But then there are his thoughts on the 1997 Special Edition vs. the Original Trilogy:

“There will only be one. And it won’t be what I would call the ‘rough cut,’ it’ll be the ‘final cut.’ The other one will be some sort of interesting artifact that people will look at and say, ’There was an earlier draft of this.’ …[W]hat ends up being important in my mind is what the DVD version is going to look like, because that’s what everybody is going to remember. The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s, to go back and reinvent a movie.”

Which, again, I completely agree with keeping the studio out of an auteur’s vision! But I don’t think Lucas realized that it wouldn’t be the studios interfering, it would be the fans themselves. Over the last thirty years, Star Wars enthusiasts have come up with many ways to re-experience the films, some with official sanction, and some without."
 

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#1351249
Topic
Press coverage of Harmy's Despecialized Editions
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Apologies for the bump…
 

I was looking for some articles to include in V.I.N.Cent’s absorbing Articles & info that highlight / call for a classic version release of the Original Trilogy thread, in the ‘Original Trilogy Discussion section’

…and came across these similarly related articles about the fan project work undertaken here and on similar sites, so thought I’d include them here. I’m sure there are many more great articles covering Harmy’s work on Despecialized, yet these are just incidental articles found from my searches for content for the above linked thread…

(and if I haven’t said it before, thanks and kudos to Harmy & also to everyone who contributed to making Depsecialized the totally fantastic project it is!)

 

The Czech Guerilla Restorationist battling to save Star Wars - Czech Radio, in 2014.

Watch The Original Star Wars Trilogy As It Was Before George Lucas Screwed It Up - Lifehacker, in 2015.

Watch the version of ‘Star Wars’ that George Lucas hates - Endgadget, in 2016 (also has TN1 SSE).

Watch the Star Wars Trilogy movies in their original form - Robservatory, in 2020.

A Star Wars Fan Is Restoring the Film to Its Original, Unaltered State - MentalFloss, in 2015.

You can watch an ‘unaltered’ version of Star Wars in HD today - Polygon, in 2014.

The Fans Who Saved “Star Wars” - MovieMezzanine, in 2016. (also has TN1 SSE)

‘Star Wars: Despecialized Edition’ Restores the Original, Unedited Trilogy - Vice, in 2015

Why Is The Best Version Of Star Wars ‘Illegal’? - Above The Law, in 2015.

Star Wars Original Trilogy Unaltered - Michael Deleon Photography, in 2016.

The Star Wars George Lucas Doesn’t Want You To See - The Atlantic, in 2014.

Star Wars — The Fandom Editors - Wired, in 2013.

Star Wars Fans Feel the Force Calling Them Back to Original Cuts - Wall Street Journal, in 2016.

Watch the original Star Wars the way it looked in 1977 - The Verge, in 2016.

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#1351243
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Making-Of Documentaries - YouTube/Vimeo/etc. finds
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darth-gary said:

Pink Floyd - The Other Side of the Wall (1982)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzwghOSwhK8 - Part 1 (9 mins.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BQJpW_A97Y - Part 2 (9 mins.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JueCk5modno - Part 3 (7.5 mins) - from the i love music! YouTube channel

as well as the rest of your great post too - thanks man; that’s my evening sorted for tonight 😃
 

(and a brilliant idea for a thread, ZkinandBonez)

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#1351242
Topic
Articles & info that highlight / call for a classic version release of the Original Trilogy
Time

Disney Has Acquired Fox; What Does that Mean for Star Wars?’:-

https://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2019/03/disney-acquired-fox-star-wars-meaning.html - 2019 article
 

a snippet…
 

"Let’s start by clearing up a big misconception right off the bat: no, we are not getting the original theatrical trilogy. For those of you unaware, there has been a long-running fan conspiracy that Lucasfilm are set to release remastered, unaltered versions of the first three Star Wars movies (A New Hope, The Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi) before George Lucas went back to edit them any day now for the over two decades. In spite of that hope becoming more and more of a pipe dream since Lucas released the initial versions of the Star Wars Special Editions and their plethora of changes (some controversial, some deemed unnecessary, and a few actually praised), the belief that Lucasfilm are waiting for the right time to release the unaltered versions of the movies has persisted, and has gained new life with Disney’s purchase of Lucasfilm and Fox alike.

The thing is, ownership of Lucasfilm and Fox are not what what’s keeping the old versions of the movies from seeing the light of day in an official capacity; George Lucas himself is. And he’s repeatedly stated that he wants those changes to stay put. When he threw fans a bone in the early 2000s with DVD versions of the original versions, it turned out to be not what fans were hoping for when it was really just the LaserDisc version of the movies ported over to DVD, without any actual remastering of the visual or audio quality put into place. That alone should indicate what his position on his old versions of the movies are – in spite of the preference of the fans, he feels that the revision of Return of the Jedi that has Darth Vader shout “No!” and a celebration of the Emperor’s death across the galaxy far, far away instead of just on Endor is the definitive version of the film. Unless he suddenly changes his mind (and, sure, he’s flip-flopped plenty of times before, but this is one subject he’s remained steadfast on for over twenty years), we’re not going to get official remastered versions of the original cuts of those films anytime soon, if ever.

Evidence has surfaced suggesting that Lucasfilm have internally decided to remaster the original, unaltered prints – from of footage that made it to the theater to footage included as deleted scenes on the DVD and Blu-Ray versions and some footage that has still not seen the light of day – but it appears to be for their use only. It appears that this played a role in how they were able to integrate unused footage of Red and Gold Leaders into the final battle sequence of Rogue One: A Star Wars Story, or how they were able to include a slightly different take of Princess Leia’s plea for help in The Last Jedi to suit the shot that Rian Johnson filmed with Mark Hamill and Jimmy Vee. But don’t expect the unedited clips that were actually featured in the original trilogy movies to see the light of day.

The plus side is that, if you know where to look, Lucasfilm has seemingly agreed to turn a blind eye toward fans creating their own remasters of the original movies as long as they’re not sold for profit. Technically, distributing that kind of stuff is not legal, but it appears that Lucasfilm are not going to feed you to their Rancors if you burn these versions onto the Blu-ray discs that you’ve purchased. Just to be clear, we’re not encouraging that you do kind of thing and we respect Lucas’s own wishes… But if you want to see high-quality versions of the original Star Wars trilogy as it appeared to audiences in the late 1970s and early 1980s, with some visual effects mistakes from the old versions fixed without anything else being changed, then they are out there."
 

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#1350941
Topic
Articles & info that highlight / call for a classic version release of the Original Trilogy
Time

’John Landis Says Original ‘Star Wars’ Theatrical Cuts Will Be Re-Released’:-

John Landis Says Original ‘Star Wars’ Theatrical Cuts Will Be Re-Released - 2015 article

https://www.indiewire.com/2015/09/john-landis-says-original-star-wars-theatrical-cuts-will-be-re-released-259706
 

a snippet…
 

"A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, George Lucas released a trilogy of classic sci-fi fantasy films that captured the imagination of a generation. But then, the dark side took over, and he couldn’t stop tinkering with them. For anyone with even half a passion for the “Star Wars” franchise, Lucas’ CGI drenched additions to the original trio of films have been controversial if not outright blasphemy. It has been a further thorn in the side of fans that Lucas has long refused to re-issue the original theatrical cuts, only half-heartedly including them in non-anamorphic form in a 2008 box set of the trilogy, sourced from the 1993 LaserDisc release (the quality was far from ideal). While this bit of news comes second-hand, it’s a brief flame of hope that the original movies will once again be seen as they were for the first time on the big screen.

Participating in a Halloween Horror Nights Q&A in Orlando, Florida this weekend, John Landis revealed that Lucas told him that Disney will be re-releasing the theatrical cut of the original “Star Wars” trilogy. That’s about it as far as details go, but it’s likely not going to happen for a while yet as there are still rights issues to sort out."

 
 

a 4-minute youtube video titled ‘John Landis talks theatrical cut of Star Wars’ (from the ‘Behind The Thrills’ youtube channel) can be found here:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWeDd7lfNsM

 

a few other articles on the same subject, from the same time-frame:-

https://www.forbes.com/sites/benjaminmoore/2015/09/22/is-the-original-unaltered-star-wars-trilogy-finally-coming-to-blu-ray/#7ae088fa36e9
https://www.whathifi.com/news/could-original-star-wars-cuts-be-heading-to-blu-ray
https://www.inquisitr.com/2431218/john-landis-claims-disney-will-re-release-the-theatrical-cuts-of-the-original-star-wars-trilogy
https://www.flickeringmyth.com/2015/09/disney-to-re-release-the-theatrical-cuts-of-the-original-star-wars-trilogy-according-to-john-landis
https://www.furiousfanboy.com/2015/09/18/john-landis-claims-disney-is-releasing-the-original-star-wars-trilogy
https://www.thebeardedtrio.com/2015/09/john-landis-claims-disney-to-release.html

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#1350458
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Articles & info that highlight / call for a classic version release of the Original Trilogy
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George Lucas Wants Desperately To Preserve Old Movies… Unless They’re His; So Fans Are Trying To Do It Instead’:-

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140828/15160128354/george-lucas-wants-desperately-to-preserve-old-movies-unless-theyre-his-so-fans-are-trying-to-do-it-instead.shtml - 2014 article
 

a snippet…
 

"Kevin Carson points us to a fascinating story in The Atlantic about fans trying to recreate the “original” version of Star Wars ("Episode IV – A New Hope for the folks who feel like being pedantic) from 1977. As various fans have pointed out repeatedly (mainly each time Lucas went back and “edited” Star Wars again), back in 1988 Lucas spoke to Congress about the importance of preserving original versions of movies, and avoiding the constant attempts to update and modernize them in ways that might erase the original versions.

Key quote (by George Lucas):-

"Today, engineers with their computers can add color to black-and-white movies, change the soundtrack, speed up the pace, and add or subtract material to the philosophical tastes of the copyright holder. Tomorrow, more advanced technology will be able to replace actors with “fresher faces,” or alter dialogue and change the movement of the actor’s lips to match. It will soon be possible to create a new “original” negative with whatever changes or alterations the copyright holder of the moment desires. The copyright holders, so far, have not been completely diligent in preserving the original negatives of films they control. In order to reconstruct old negatives, many archivists have had to go to Eastern bloc countries where American films have been better preserved.

In the future it will become even easier for old negatives to become lost and be “replaced” by new altered negatives. This would be a great loss to our society. Our cultural history must not be allowed to be rewritten."
 

and…

“While Lucas’ changes and updates to his film bother some, I’ve never been that concerned about those attempts to re-imagine his own work, but it does seem particularly silly to try to block people from even having the choice to view the original. It’s great that fans are putting in so much effort to reconstruct it by themselves, but it seems like Lucas could just speed that whole process along by making the original available.”
 

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#1350456
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Articles & info that highlight / call for a classic version release of the Original Trilogy
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Opinion: Saving the Original, unaltered Classic Trilogy’:-

https://starwarsaficionado.blogspot.com/2011/10/opinion-saving-original-unaltered.html - 2011 article
 

a snippet…
 

"With the recent release of THE COMPLETE SAGA on Blu-ray, still in pole position (or very near that) within the Top Ten charts of the world consumer home entertainment market, it’s time to reflect on the disappointing fact that, for the time being, the original theatrical versions of the Classic Trilogy- 1977, 1980 and 1983- have been officially discontinued on DVD from the major seller sites like AMAZON and PLAY with the prior 2006 release (where each film, disappointingly released in a non-anamorphic format, and scanned from the 1993 laserdisc releases, would be presented on a separate bonus feature disc alongside the SPECIAL EDITION versions), and there are apparently no plans to release new copies. How long this current situation will last is unknown, but I’m assuming it will be for the lengthy peak sales duration that the Blu-rays will need to generate income for LUCASFILM and FOX.

Now, more than ever, and especially with the recent controversies regarding the further changes made to the SPECIAL EDITION films on the Blu-rays (some enhancements great, others (you know which ones they are!) not so great), I think it’s time that LUCASFILM finally caved in (and there is absolutely no shame in doing this!) and answered the heartfelt requests/pleas from fans, young and old, around the world to finally release the original unaltered Classic Trilogy films on Blu-ray once and for all (the chance to win back much tarnished fan appreciation and media support, and greatly increased sales, following years of disappointment with what has been released on DVD, was sadly blown this year by their not doing this with the new COMPLETE SAGA release).

There is still time to put this sad Classic Trilogy oversight right, and have a separate release for the beloved three films on Blu-ray in a few years time, if LUCASFILM start acting now. The transfers don’t have to be anything fancy-just nice clean TECHNICOLOR presentations of the movies as we love and remember them from their original screenings, and with the original superb sound mix restored to the way it was (it doesn’t need any flashy mucking about with or be put in new DOLBY techniques). TECHNICOLOR copies of the original films do still exist. Producer Gary Kurtz has a copy of the 1977 STAR WARS-he told me this a few years back, and also revealed he lent it to LUCASFILM when they were doing their SPECIAL EDITIONS restoration work for release in 1997-scenes from his copy were duplicated and used to fill in gaps where the original masters had deteriorated from age. Copies of EMPIRE and JEDI also apparently exists in private hands and their owners would surely be more than happy to work with LUCASFILM so that the best available prints are made available for transfer of the highest definition possible. The potential profits from the new release far outweigh the potential behind the scenes costs and time that needs to be spent by Lucas’s restoration team/s…

So please, George Lucas and LUCASFILM, you’ve given us a good starter with THE COMPLETE SAGA box set, now go the distance that little bit more and give the fans who have loyally bought all the box sets- in all types of format since the eighties- what they really want: the Original Versions of the Classic Trilogy on Blu-ray-the unaltered and still magical three films we fell in love with all those years ago worldwide: which started the phenomenon into what it has become today!"
 

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#1350226
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Articles & info that highlight / call for a classic version release of the Original Trilogy
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We’re Still Waiting For the Unaltered Star Wars Trilogy’:-

Roadshow screenings of “Star Wars,” “The Empire Strikes Back” and “Return of the Jedi” are coming this summer, but they aren’t the versions we want - a 2016 article

https://www.thewrap.com/star-wars-trilogy-is-getting-roadshow-screenings-but-not-the-versions-we-want-commentary
 

a snippet…
 

"On Tuesday, Alamo Drafthouse announced the “Return of the Trilogy” roadshow, which would bring theatrical screenings of the original “Star Wars” trilogy to 20 cities in the U.S. this August. They’ll be selling tickets starting May 4, also known on the Internet as “Star Wars” Day.

That’s great, right?

But there’s a catch. There’s always a catch with those old “Star Wars” movies. Drafthouse won’t be screening the un-messed-with versions of the trilogy. Instead, we’ll be getting the 1997 Special Edition versions.

Sure, it’s better than having to deal with the 2011 blu-ray versions, which is what has usually been screened on those rare occasions in the past few years when “Star Wars” hits the big screen again. Those were George Lucas‘ magnum opus of pointlessly changing things in the movies that made him a household name, throwing in all sorts of weird new jarring things. The Special Editions (1997), by comparison, were pretty benign, so I guess you could say that getting those for these roadshow screenings is better than nothing."

But that’s not really how I feel about it. If I’m going to venture out of my home and pay money to see a “Star Wars” movie on the big screen, it either better be something I haven’t seen before (hello, “Rogue One”), or it should be the real “Star Wars.” Not the Special Editions. Not the blu-ray versions. The ones that are the same as what showed in theaters in 1977, 1980 and 1983.

It’s not complicated. I want it and so does everybody else. Having “unaltered original ‘Star Wars’ trilogy” on your marquee is the kind of thing that gets people lined up around the block. Because that’s something many of us have never gotten on the big screen before."
 

and…

“I’m a fan, and I want what I want. I want those ugly old X-Wings and a version of Mos Eisley that isn’t crammed full of low-res CGI beasts. I want a Sarlaac without that weird beak, and Death Stars that explode without a ring of fire. I want snowspeeders and Imperial walker that are surrounded by matte lines. I want the real thing.”
 

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#1350221
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Articles & info that highlight / call for a classic version release of the Original Trilogy
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The search for the ‘Star Wars’ George Lucas doesn’t want you to see’:-

https://mashable.com/2015/12/17/star-wars-original-cut/?europe=true - a 2015 article
 

a snippet…
 

"Ah, Star Wars. Not the movie that’s launching like a nostalgia-boosted rocket this week ,or the prequel sequels that broke millions of hearts a decade ago, or even the face-lifted originals that the franchise’s creator unloaded on the public in the late 20th century.

No, I’m taking about the movie I saw as a teen 38 years ago. The epic film called simply Star Wars. It was singular and self-contained. It was raw and it was visceral. It has also, more or less, been hidden away for nearly four decades.

Ever since director George Lucas started messing with the original trio of films — Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi — fans have been fixated on the series’ unadulterated versions.

Lucas has either seized and destroyed or hidden away all copies of the original films in order to roll out modified versions that are ostensibly better than the originals. Owing to its age, the first film, which was released in 1977, has probably undergone more updates and spit polish than the rest.

There is, however, one place beyond the reach of Lucas’s twitchy, compulsively dissatisfied grasp: the Library of Congress.

As I read last year in the epic How Star Wars Conquered the Universe, by Mashable’s own Chris Taylor, the Library doesn’t just have a preserved 1977 negative of the film. That negative has been transformed into a glorious 4K file that anyone can view by appointment."
 

The rest of the article follows the writer’s journey to the Library of Congress to watch and experience the 1977 version of Star Wars… a compelling read.
 
 

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#1350212
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'Star Wars: <strong>The High Republic</strong>' era publishing project (was aka 'Project Luminous')
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^ That kind of sucks nothing will be for Christmas (damn, that means some actual thuoght will have to go into gift-giving this year 😉) but obviously understand why there is the delay.

Maybe we’ll get a teaser or some exerts later in the year - or at least some more background information?

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#1349888
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Articles &amp; info that highlight / call for a classic version release of the Original Trilogy
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Star Wars: Why Disney Won’t Release the Original Theatrical Cuts’:-

Why Star Wars fans still want the original theatrical cuts and why Disney hasn’t released them yet…

https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/star-wars-why-disney-wont-release-the-original-theatrical-cuts - 2017 article
 

a snippet…
 

"It’s a strange time in the world of physical discs. Whilst companies such as Arrow and Criterion continue to invest time, money and care into beautiful, crafted, and collectable releases, there’s a growing feeling that the era of the physical disc is coming to an end. DVD and Blu-ray sales are falling, some titles by-pass disc altogether and go straight to streaming services. Furthermore, extra features are becoming less the norm and more a bit of a luxury. Then there’s the small matter of Ultra HD Blu-ray, a new disc format that’s making a little headway, but struggling to really breakthrough.

Yet if there’s a release that would give the physical disc industry a real shot in the arm, it’s the original Star Wars cuts. Those long-cherished theatrical releases from the 1970s and 1980s, that have only been released once on DVD – and then in a fairly shabby state (a transfer from laserdisc materials, rather than film negatives) – and instead been usurped by the Greedo-endorsed special editions. Never have they seen 1080p, yet alone 4K."
 

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#1349887
Topic
Articles &amp; info that highlight / call for a classic version release of the Original Trilogy
Time

’Why Hasn’t Disney Released The Original Unaltered Star Wars Films?’:-

Over the weekend Ant-Man director Peyton Reed took to Twitter to ask for something Star Wars fans have been pestering people about since George Lucas first re-released the original Star Wars trilogy with a bunch of changes. He wants Lucasfilm to release an unaltered version of the original film on Blu-ray.

https://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2017/09/why-hasnt-disney-released-the-original-unaltered-star-wars-films - 2017 article
 

a snippet…
 

'George Lucas notoriously considered each iteration of the Star Wars special editions as the definitive version of the film, with new changes popping up every time the trilogy was released on a new format. He insisted that the special editions were the films he had originally wanted to make, and in 2004 he even went so far as to say he wouldn’t re-release the unaltered versions on DVD.
 

George Lucas - “The special edition, that’s the one I wanted out there. The other movie, it’s on VHS, if anybody wants it. … I’m not going to spend the, we’re talking millions of dollars here, the money and the time to refurbish that, because to me, it doesn’t really exist anymore.”
 

He eventually relented and released the unaltered cuts on DVD for a limited time in 2006, bundled with the 2004 special editions. There are plenty of them available on sites like eBay if anyone wants them. The films didn’t arrive on Blu-ray until 2011, a single year before he sold the franchise to Disney, meaning the unaltered cuts never officially arrived in high definition.’
 

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Articles &amp; info that highlight / call for a classic version release of the Original Trilogy
Time

’Star Wars on Blu-ray: George, don’t do that…’:-

A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, there was a beloved film trilogy. Not any more, if Star Wars’ impending Blu-ray release has anything to do with it

https://www.theguardian.com/film/filmblog/2010/aug/19/star-wars-blu-ray-lucas - 2010 article
 

A snippet…

"This week, Lucas announced that the Star Wars saga would be coming to Blu-ray before the end of 2011. The piece of news missing from early announcements, unearthed during an interview he gave to the New York Times, was that the original trilogy would be presented in the special edition form that appeared on the 2004 DVD release, rather than the classic versions released between 1977 and 1983.

The 2004 special edition features all of 1997’s awkward edits – Greedo shooting first, Han stepping on Jabba’s tail – and adds even more egregious acts of self-mutilation. Most notably, Return of the Jedi replaces Sebastian Shaw as the spirit Anakin Skywalker with wooden imp Hayden Christensen, star of the prequels.

“In essence, films never get finished, they get abandoned,” Lucas told American Cinematographer magazine in 1997. “The other versions will disappear. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be [the Special Edition]. I think it’s the director’s prerogative … to go back and reinvent a movie.”

The DVD edition (in 2006), at least, featured bonus discs holding weak transfers of the original versions, even if they felt like poorly treated outcasts, added just to prolong their humiliation at their creator’s increasingly malevolent hands. The Blu-rays won’t even feature those.

Lucas says that’s because the process of remastering them for HD is prohibitively expensive. During his interview with the New York Times this week, he claimed that putting them on the Blu-ray would be “kind of an oxymoron because the quality of the original is not very good. When we did the transfer to digital, we only transferred really the upgraded version.”

Alexandre Philippe directed documentary feature ‘The People vs George Lucas’, which premiered at this year’s Edinburgh film festival. He believes Lucas has no intention of letting the films’ original versions exist. “We’ve heard all the excuses: they don’t represent George’s ‘original vision’; the negatives of the movies were permanently altered for the creation of the Special Editions; they can’t or won’t put in the time and resources needed to properly restore the films. Now, we’re told that releasing the originals is an oxymoron. As the reasons for not releasing the originals pile up, they simply don’t add up to anything coherent any more.”
 

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Topic
Articles &amp; info that highlight / call for a classic version release of the Original Trilogy
Time

Why We Should Be Able to See Star Wars‘ Original Theatrical Cut’:-

https://411mania.com/movies/why-we-should-be-able-to-see-star-wars-original-theatrical-cut - 2019 article
 

a snippet, from the part of the article after talking about JJ wanting the original cuts of the OT released…
 

“I guess it’s what George Lucas wanted, and that’s what he did, and so I respect that, although I also feel like there’s something about the original theatrical version that was, you know, for so many people, the thing they loved as it was. And so, you know, it would be great to have that available for a mainstream audience.”

Absolutely. While Lucas used his right to “tweak” his movies, the viewer has the right to alter their opinion of the movie. For me, these Special Editions diminished my view of them. I’m a borderline Star Wars fan. I like the original trilogy enough, I don’t place it on a pedestal. Its achievement with audiences and critics speaks for itself. The prequels left me cold and I chalk it up to they weren’t made for me. And that’s OK. If someone else likes them, good for them. I don’t hold it against anyone who likes something I don’t. Take it in and enjoy.

As for these sequels, I’ve waited till they came out on a streaming service before seeing them and didn’t mind one bit. For the record, Solo and Rogue One were fun to me. But at this point, I can take the franchise or leave it. It’s fun to talk about but I’ll leave the judging to others more invested in the franchise.

Should we be able to get the original theatrical releases?

Absolutely. For millions, that’s their version of Star Wars that they fell in love with and made them fans."
 

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The Empire Strikes Back - at 40...
Time

The Empire Strikes Back turns 40 years old this week…

and although the original theatrical version of the film hasn’t had an official dedicated release in 25 years, it is probably worth still marking the occasion with its own thread - especially as the offical Star Wars social media plaforms seem to be issuing out several pieces for it’s 40th anniversary - probably in the hope people think it is the same film that is available to buy now as it was 25 years ago - and more… 😉

 

StarWars.com’s ‘Empire Strikes Back at 40’ website portal

Empire at 40: George Lucas on making ‘something that had never been done before’ again

Empire at 40: Why we love The Empire Strikes Back (StarWars official site writers talk about thier love of the film)

Empire at 40: Snow Walkers, Stop-motion, and dumpster lids: An Oral History of The Battle Of Hoth

History in objects: Dispatches from Empire Strikes Back

 

The Empire Strikes Back - May 70 mm vs June 35 mm - yotsuya’s thread on the offical site going into detail about some last-minute changes to the film as it hit the cinemas 40 years ago…

Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back Time Capsule - ZkinandBonez’s post on the new short video about the production of ESB…

 

Star Wars drops 40th anniversary poster for ‘The Empire Strikes Back’ - article at at Yahoo

There is another: SW actors, creators and fans on Empire’s enduring legacy at 40th - article at SyFy

‘The Empire Strikes Back’ at 40: How the sequel launched ‘Star Wars’ into the future - article at CNN

Joe Johnston expains the secret origins of the Empire Strikes Back’s new Star Wars vehicles - article at SyFy

The Legacy of Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back 40 Years Later - article at Flickering Myth

‘I am your father’: The Empire Strikes Back writer looks back on iconic twist - article at EW

The Best Things The Empire Strikes Back Introduced to Star Wars - article at Gizmodo

The Empire Strikes Back at 40: did the Star Wars saga peak too early? - article at The Guardian

 

Obviously, StarWars.com is also selling a load of Empire Strikes Back merchandise on the back of it’s 40th anniversary - seemingly everything but the original film itself, of course…

 

^ from https://uk.movies.yahoo.com/star-wars-40th-anniversary-poster-empire-strikes-back-205944845.html