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#1460937
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The Official babyhum Release Thread
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-babyhum- said:

phoenix
/ˈfiːnɪks/
noun
(in classical mythology) a unique bird that lived for five or six centuries in the Arabian desert, after this time burning itself on a funeral pyre and rising from the ashes with renewed youth to live through another cycle.

Welcome back, babyhum. 👍

If I didn’t say it years ago, I’ll say it now… that is some absolute quality work down by yourself in compiling that and making it all available for everyone too.
 

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#1460612
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The 'Naysayer Guide’ by people who DON'T want an unaltered theatrical release of the OT
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The unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy’ - the few words that can send certain Star Wars fans into an angry tizz… often triggering some quite uninformed, somewhat ignorant, and wholly incorrect claims and statements over the years. Especially when there is talk about wanting to have the option to buy a high quality, official release, on a modern digital format.
 

A number of fans who do seemingly get quite angry, defensive, and hostile… are no doubt big proponents of the various Special Editions - which represent ‘George’s vision(s)’ - all four of these continuing visions, since 1997, and believe these are the only versions that should only be available? Perhaps seeing themselves as somehow defending George, and his latest vision(s)?

Sometimes, comments from certain fans are ostensibly said with malice, and likely in an attempt to troll. Perhaps parroting other past comments in a bid to appear more knowledgeable than they are - or maybe just attempting to appear ‘contrarian’.

Plus, there are some fans with a cultish pro-George / ‘George can do no wrong’ attitude and outlook, who struggle to believe, justify or accept… George’s own statements when these contradict other previous claims of his. Or where George has been caught out trying to retcon Star Wars history - or laying blame at the door of others for some of his own erroneous claims.

Also, many of the somewhat ignorant & uninformed claims made by certain fans could also genuinely be borne out of some confusion… likely due to George and Lucasfilm’s somewhat disingenuous statements over the years… and possibly also Lucasfilm not publicly commenting or responding to fan queries as to the availability of the unaltered classic cuts since 2006!
 

Below are just some of the comments often seen when the topic of the classic cuts of the Original Trilogy is mentioned online…

Along with these claims & statements… are some hopefully decent, informative, & reasoned replies. Click on ‘Expand’ to see them. 👍
 

A dozen of the ‘Naysayer’s FAQ-style Guide’ oft-repeated claims, statements & comments (in no particular order)…

 

1:The unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy is on VHS, laserdisc, and DVD. Why are you complaining?

We’re not complaining - we are simply asking for an official high quality release of these much-loved award-winning, iconic, and ground breaking films to be able to be viewed, experienced and enjoyed as they originally were… the films that underpin the entire Galaxy Far, Far Away.

 

2:Duh! There was already a release of the unaltered theatrical version in 2006 on DVD!

We know. We are responsible for that unaltered classic cut on DVD release happening - along with other fans campaigning for such a release at the time too. To date, it is the only time the unaltered classic cuts have appeared on a digital home format, albeit in SD, and is riddled with DNR problems and other quality issues…

To say nothing of Lucasfilm choosing a master source meant for a 1993 laserdisc transfer, in an obsolete letterbox format (even for 2006), and Lucasfilm then trying to pass off the… “1993 laserdisc masters represented the best source for providing the original versions as DVD bonus material”… a claim we all know to be very far from being anywhere near true.
 

More information on 2006 GOUT DVD ‘bonus disc’ release can be found in this insightful and informative article on here:-

Got GOUT? The 2006 Original Version DVD Bonus Feature Fiasco - at the ‘Saving Star Wars’ website.

 

3:There are Harmy Despecialized Editions and 4K77 fan versions - I have those and am happy with them!

We know - we’re the same community that these quality projects originated from (and many more fan endeavours besides). 😃
 

We’re very happy with them too! Still, as amazing as these preservation projects are - and they are truly amazing… not everyone is aware of them. Nor is everyone computer-savvy enough to get a hold of them. Online fans do make a up hefty percentage of Star Wars fandom - but we are by no means in the majority… both older and younger fans, people not online much, and indeed people who are online - yet simply aren’t aware of the existence or availability of these fan preservations… would all benefit from having an official version to be able to simply buy.

An official high quality release - whether on the store shelf, available to order online, or even to buy and experience on the Disney+ streaming service, should be readily available and accessible to everyone.

 

4:The unaltered theatrical cuts are NOT George’s vision! You guys are so entitled - George doesn’t owe you anything!

Wanting such a release of the unaltered classic cuts is not about the ‘theatrical cut vs the various special editions’ or which is ‘the best’, ‘preferred’, ‘canon’, or ‘definitive’, or George’s continuing vision(s) (we are now on George’s Vision Number 5). It is simply about giving the fans the opportunity to own and view any & all of the differing versions of the Original Trilogy - whilst also affording landmark film history to be once again enjoyed and experienced by everyone.
 

Plus, the way we see it, an artist shouldn’t be able to change what the audience remembers. We don’t think an artist has the right to arbitrarily change the experience of the film from what people saw. Once it is released to the audience, it belongs with the audience. To interpret and to remember.

Given the unaltered classic cuts were the only version of the Star Wars Trilogy available for some twenty years, we believe there should be a high quality version of these cuts available on a modern digital format, for the countless number of fans who would very much like to own and experience such a product once again… as they remember it. And also share with new and younger fans who may not be familiar this version of the films.

Not forgetting that it is this unaltered version of the Original Trilogy which underpins all of the Galaxy Far, Far Away.

Many of us also believe there should be a high quality, modern digital version, of the 1997 Special Edition available too - as this is the incarnation of the Original Trilogy many fans saw on the big screen for the first time, and also has its own place in Star Wars history. Something they too should be able to remember and experience once again - and something which was never released on DVD, or in HD, for home release.

 

5:They are George’s films - and he can do with them what he wants!

We disagree with this opinion - as does George Lucas himself…
 

 
^ George Lucas (in 2004): Seriously, that’s why I’m a member of the Film Foundation (filmmakers for film preservation). A director should be able to change his films - but nobody else.

At the time of above conversation George Lucas had already made changes to directors Irvin Kershner’s ‘Empire Strikes Back’, and Richard Marquand’s ‘Return Of The Jedi’ - and would also make go on to make further additional changes to both films.
 

Neither The Empire Strikes Back or Return Of The Jedi are available as their respective directors intended, or indeed made, on a modern and quality digital format.

 

As said previously (in Category No. 4)… The way we see it, an artist shouldn’t be able to change what the audience remembers. We don’t think an artist has the right to arbitrarily change the experience of the film from what people saw. Once it is released to the audience, it belongs with the audiences. To interpret and to remember.

Given the unaltered classic cuts were the only version of the Star Wars Trilogy available for some twenty years, we believe there should be a high quality version of these cuts available on a modern digital format, for the countless number of fans who would very much like to own and experience such a product once again, as they remember it. And also share with new and younger fans who may not be familiar this version of the films.

 

6:I respect George - and he doesn’t want anyone to see these unaltered versions anymore - so you guys are wrong!

We respect George too. After all, he is the visionary creator of the Star Wars universe.
 

However, when George says this…
 

^ from How the Grinch Stole Star Wars - an article on the ‘Save Star Wars’ website.

George Lucas: …What ends up being important in my mind is what the DVD version is going to look like, because that’s what everybody is going to remember. The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movies that anyone will remember will be the DVD [of the Special Edition].
 

We find that above statement from George to very disconcerting - it is, in effect, an effort to wilfully suppress and eradicate landmark film history - as well as inadvertently denigrating audience’s memories and experiences from the unaltered version that existed for some twenty years. To say nothing of these being the original version of the three films upon which the entire Star Wars universe was built on.
 

And yet, in stark contrast to the above statement from George…
 

The Film Foundation is a non-profit organization established in 1990 by director Martin Scorcese dedicated to protecting and preserving motion picture history - of which George Lucas is a board member.

The quotes below are taken from a video of George Lucas talking about the Film-Foundation - and the importance of preserving movies. Click on the Film-Foundation link above and then on the George Lucas image icon to watch the actual video:-

George Lucas: The idea of film history, the idea of preserving films, which are so important to our heritage and culture, and which are part of what I think are a very significant art form, especially going into the future, I think is paramount. The reality that we face which is half the films before 1950 have been lost and we’ll never see them again… is a tragedy. And it saddens me every time I think about the fact that I’ve seen stills, I’ve heard stories about certain movies and I’ll never, ever be able to see them. Because they’re gone now. And I think preserving films - in terms of the legacy for the future - is probably the most important thing we can do.

^ We completely agree with this - and so would like to see the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy to have an official, high quality release, on a modern digital format… so everyone can view and experience them once again.

 

7:You guys all hate George Lucas!" & "You want to burn him to the ground and want to take everything away from him!

No. Not at all. Just no. Regarding George… whilst many of us are somewhat disappointed and frustrated he wishes to not release a high quality format of the unaltered theatrical versions of the Original Trilogy - we appreciate that without his vision, character & determination there would be no Star Wars at all. So it is very much incorrect to say fans asking for such a release are a bunch of Lucas-haters. Nobody at all is wishing George any harm, ill-will, or “want to take everything away from him” - whatever that means.

Quite how the above, plus talking about others’ contributions to what makes Star Wars great, George making the various Special Editions, and fans also wanting a high quality official release of unaltered cuts… equates to… “You want to burn him (Lucas) to the ground and want to take everything away from him” is lost on us. Though such toxic hyperbole, hate-based projection, and untrue claims… seemingly occurs far more… when the contributions of people other than George are praised in the history of the OT.
 

There have been quite a few contradictory claims / re-writing of history / mis-remembering of facts on the history and development of Star Wars over the years from George… and chronicling the intriguing factual history of The Galaxy Far Far Away isn’t a criticism of the man himself - more a striving for a genuine, accurate, and authentic record on the evolution of Star Wars.

Attempting to highlight that intriguing and factual account of The Galaxy Far Far Away is not a ‘bashing Lucas’ exercise or unfounded criticism of the man himself - a philanthropist who has generously given much of his fortune away to charities, educational endeavours and good causes. The same determined genius and visionary who put both his own personal health and money at risk in bringing us these three classic films and the universe within…
 

To paraphrase Irvin Kershner, quoted whilst directing Empire Strikes Back… ‘fight for what you love - not because you hate’.

 

8:The OT was filmed in the 70’s & 80’s and are not even in HD - they look awful! The new Special Editions releases look amazing and are in so much better quality - and in 4K!

Sorry - the claim that because ‘the films were made in the 70’s and 80’s so are not even in HD and look awful!’ is simply not true.

The Original Trilogy was shot on 35mm film. 35mm film has a resolution of approximately 5.6K — equivalent to an image of about 5,600 × 3,620 pixels. The finite resolution of film will fluctuate based on the type of film and the film’s processing methods. More information on this can be found at the FilmFlix site - here (and many other trustworthy sources of information online).
 

After all, the various Special Edition releases (in 1997, 2004, 2011 and 2019) are all from, or based on, the original 35mm film negatives / prints used for the filming the Original Trilogy movies at the time.

 

This video on the Original Trilogy also both illuminates and gives answers to this common mistake in thinking films shot in 35mm from ‘long ago’ were ‘not even in HD’, or somehow look poor when compared to modern releases. It was released shortly before the 2019 Special Editions (aka the ‘Maclunkey’) version appeared on Disney+ - yet is still relevant to the topic:-
 

Star Wars 4K77 “That Wasn’t Filmed in HD!”

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg6wNw_uRu4 - a 25 minute video from the RetroBlasting youtube channel.

 
 

This follow-up video, of sorts, is also well worth a discerning watch - in regards to the unaltered theatrical cuts - its unique place in Star Wars history, and also the love & reverence it has from countless fans of the classic Original Trilogy…
 

Star Wars: Going Home to Stay’:-

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ihf2pVjpzJI - a 15 minute video from the RetroBlasting youtube channel.

 

9:Nobody wants to see the bad special effects of the 70’s and 80’s in the Original Trilogy!

We see nothing wrong in attempting to preserve the original, award-winning and pioneering work of the many artisans, sound technicians, craftsmen, and special effects artists… to do justice to their priceless contributions, which should remain available for all to see, experience, and be inspired by…

List of Academy Awards for The Original Trilogy & The Lost Art Of Star Wars

^ both these quality articles / sources of information are from the Star Wars Visual Comparisons website.

 

Tonally, many of the Special Edition effects inserted into the Original Trilogy are also noticeably different to the unaltered original films, in both look and feel.

Many of Special Edition inserts also look more ‘dated’ than many of the original effects and have themselves been replaced in later Special Edition releases…

^ from https://twitter.com/starwarsviscomp/status/950411778973995008

 

Or introducing visual effects errors into the Special Editions releases - this time for the 2004 SE DVD release…

…from Return Of The Jedi; with Vader’s lightsaber now being a different reddish-orange colour to what is seen moments before.

 

To say nothing of the 2011 Special Edition blu ray release somehow looking like this…

…is this somehow meant to be an improvement in image quality over the original unaltered theatrical cut? No. No, it isn’t.

 

Nor this bizarre blue colouring introduced for the 1997 Special Edition release…

 

More example of these errors, introductions of mistakes, and sub-standard quality control for the various Special Editions can be found in the insightful ‘Can’t Even Get the Special Edition Right’ article on the ‘Saving Star Wars’ website.

 

10:Stop crying bout the Special Edition alterations! It is only a few special effects that have changed - and not the story!

Sorry, that is not true - at all. For example… since the 1997 Special Editions, through to the 2019 SE ‘Maclunkey’ releases…
 

 
^ ‘Never forget that the Death Star has been in clear site of Yavin IV from the beginning of the battle since 1997 and this is how the Special Edition should have ended.':-

Disney+ Should Offer the Star Wars Original Cuts—All of Them - article at Wired (scroll down to the ‘The Game Breaker’ section).
 

all credit to doubleofive - for both finding and highlighting that uncorrected oversight - in all four versions of the Special Edition films - and also for the article itself.

 

Needless to say there are many other changes to the story too - some are slight alterations, whereas others are quite profound in their impact on the story changes. Whilst ‘your mileage may vary’ depending on your point of view, these are still changes to the story…
 

 

 

the addition of the “Noooooooo!” line of dialogue for Vader in Return Of The Jedi…

 

11:You guys are still banging this drum? Hardly anyone wants the unaltered theatrical versions!

Yes, we are still proudly banging the drum 😃. Admittedly, we having been doing this for a long while - yet we’re not going anywhere. We get that the franchise has changed mightily since we started this, in ways we couldn’t have imagined, but high quality, unaltered, theatrical versions from '77, '80, and '83 are still absent from our world.
 

Also, Lucasfilm is indeed on record as previously acknowledging the demand for an official release of the unaltered classic cuts…
 

 
^ the above quotes from Lucasfilm’s announcement are somewhat illuminating on this matter - and with many more fans also wanting to see and experience them since Lucasfilm’s statement…
 

“the biggest question we’ve ever gotten from Star Wars fans is, ‘When are you going to release the originals?’”

the “overwhelming demand” for the unaltered theatrical version.

the "long awaited release of original theatrical incarnations of the classic Star Wars trilogy.”

“over the years a truly countless number of fans have told us they would love to see and own the original version that they remember experiencing in the theatres.”

 

12:You guys should accept the Special Editions are canon - the unaltered theatrical version are not - and move on!

This is not about canon or ‘definitive’ versions… it is about having a choice, about the preservation of landmark movies, and being able to once again view and experience these much-loved Star Wars films.

The unaltered theatrical version could easily be released in the ‘Vintage Collection’ on Disney+ - and it would have no bearing on the the Special Editions being the ‘official’ or ‘default’ version.

Even a physical media official release of the unaltered Original Trilogy could easily be clearly marked as ‘non-canon’, ‘Legends’ or ‘Essential legends’ etc - like countless other official Star Wars content over time is now labelled, re-released and re-sold.
 

For some, George’ evolution for the Special Editions was basically was “patching” the movies like you patch a video game. Such patches are supposed to be free, especially if they’re considered essential for the game to be “complete”. We certainly shouldn’t have been led to believe these were the completed versions - charged full price for each “incomplete” version - and then later informed the previous patch was “incomplete” - and another full price patch was coming, and another, then another.
 

Yet this is not about the ‘theatrical cut vs the various special editions’ or which is ‘the best’, ‘preferred’, ‘canon’, or ‘definitive’, or George’s continuing vision(s). It is simply about giving the fans the opportunity to own and view any & all of the differing versions of the Original Trilogy - whilst also affording landmark film history to be once again enjoyed and experienced by everyone.

 
 

Has anyone on here came across any other ignorant or uninformed claims why us “fans are so very much in the wrong…” to want the option to buy and experience a modern, high quality, official release of the unaltered theatrical cuts of the Original Trilogy?

If so, let’s hear 'em - as well as your own replies and answers for them too… 👍
 

 


 
 

For the many fans wanting to have an official release of the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy films…

❗ #ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy | OriginalTrilogy•com’s enduring goal | How YOU can help… ❗

^ The OT•com supporting the #ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy campaign - the call for an official release of the unaltered theatrical version of the three classic Star Wars films films - and what YOU can do to help restore them to the galaxy. MTFBWY… Always.
 

Disney+ Should Offer the Star Wars Original Cuts — All of Them - article at the Wired website, by doubleofive.

What We Want And How To Make It - article at the Star Wars Visual Comparisons website, by doubleofive.

 

These OriginalTrilogy•com information and discussion threads may also be of some interest:-

I’ll never understand the attitude of people who oppose the release of the unaltered Original Trilogy

Some useful OriginalTrilogy.com threads re the non-release of the unaltered theatrical OT films | How you can help…

An OriginalTrilogy.com Timeline | a history of the site | the why & how it came to be…

George Lucas: Star Wars Creator, Unreliable Narrator & Time Travelling Revisionist…

 

Also, massive thanks to Servii, Darth Kermit, SparkySywer, Anchorhead, and many others for some of the info used in this thread.

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#1460567
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Are there any new <strong>Star Wars Books</strong> coming out soon? a general book discussion thread
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'A Saga on Home Video, 2nd Edition: Book Launch! (Details, preview, and more.):-

www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF1YGOqhdQY - a 68 minute video at the Nathan Butler youtube channel.
 

The blurb:-

‘Nathan P. Butler’s A Saga on Home Video, 2nd. Edition has arrived. In this video, the author addresses the two current versions available (Kindle and paperback) of this three-volume set, along with taking potential readers on a tour of each volume.’

 

^ I love this guy’s insightful, informative and somewhat quirky youtube videos on the various releases for all things Star Wars. I hope these books do well - and I’ll be ordering my copies soon.

His youtube video channel is well worth checking out for anyone interested in rare, obscure, occasionally baffling, or even beautiful releases of the Original Trilogy around the world - www.youtube.com/c/ChronoRadio/videos
 

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#1460138
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❗ <strong>#ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy</strong> | OriginalTrilogy.com's enduring goal | How you can help ❗
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❗ #ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy | OriginalTrilogy.com’s enduring goal | How you can help… ❗

 
^ The OT•com supporting the #ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy campaign - the call for an official release of the unaltered theatrical version of the three classic Star Wars films - and what YOU can do to help restore them to the galaxy. MTFBWY… Always.
 

This post is simply just a site-wide announcement for #ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy, the OriginalTrilogy•com supporting it, and what we can all do to help try bring about an official release of the unaltered classic cuts of the three Star Wars films. The trilogy of films which underpin all of the Galaxy Far Far Away… in the best quality possible, on a modern digital home format.
 

Please post any support and comments for #ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy in the thread linked above - not in here. Thank you.
 

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#1460026
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Articles &amp; info that highlight / call for a classic version release of the Original Trilogy
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The theatrical Star Wars trilogy hasn’t just been replaced, it’s being destroyed

https://ourculturemag.com/2021/11/26/the-theatrical-star-wars-trilogy-hasnt-just-been-replaced-its-being-destroyed

^ a 2021 article.
 

A snippet from the quality article linked above…
 

'By now, most people know that the Special Editions have ceased to be “special” editions. They have become the de facto versions of the trilogy that are commercially available. And the changes didn’t stop in 1997. In 2004, with the trilogy’s first DVD release, the films were revised again. The infamous Jabba the Hutt scene from the ‘97 Special Edition of Star Wars was altered up so that the CGI Jabba looked closer to his Return of the Jedi appearance – among other changes.

More significant alterations came in 2011 with the trilogy’s first blu-ray release. Chief among them was the inclusion of Darth Vader awkwardly shouting, “no!”, at the end of Return of the Jedi. Finally, further changes were made between 2010 and 2012 that eventually saw the light of day when the trilogy arrived on Disney+ in 2019.

Presently, the theatrical cuts are not commercially available in any format.

The deliberate erasure of the theatrical cuts isn’t good for culture or history. Countless writers have pointed out the inherent value of the original cuts of these historic films – this isn’t even the first time I’ve harped on about them! But it does bear repeating: the original incarnations of these films left an unimaginable cultural footprint. To effectively bury them is a baffling act of destruction.’ 
 

^ also at https://twitter.com/CF_Stewardson/status/1464273749646188547
 

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#1459878
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<strong>The Book Of Boba Fett</strong> (live action series) - a general discussion thread
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A new ‘tv spot’ for the BOBF…
 

Reign | The Book of Boba Fett | Disney+’:-

www.youtube.com/watch?v=crABxPcIzCU - a 30 second video at the official Star Wars youtube channel.

& https://twitter.com/bobafett/status/1464643772390641664 (official ‘The Book Of Boba Fett’ twitter account)
 

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#1459551
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<strong>Rangers Of The New Republic</strong> (live action series) - general discussion thread (<strong>Cancelled</strong>)
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Disappointing news for anyone looking forward to ‘Rangers Of The New Republic’…
 

A snippet from the January 2022 edition of Empire Magazine’s interview with Kathleen Kennedy (with quotes):-

 
“Some of that will figure into future episodes, I’m sure, of the next iteration of Mandalorian.”
 

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#1459533
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<strong>The Mandalorian</strong> - a general discussion thread - * <em><strong>SPOILERS</strong></em> *
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ZkinandBonez said:

THE EMMY-WINNING SPECIAL VISUAL EFFECTS OF THE MANDALORIAN: SEASON 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd39daKZCI8 - from the official ILMVFX YouTube channel (4 mins long).

Only just got around to watching that - love these type of cool and insightful videos from ILM. 👍
 

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#1459503
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❗ <strong>#ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy</strong> | OriginalTrilogy.com’s enduring goal | How <strong>you</strong> can help ❗
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Credit, kudos, thanks & acknowledgements to the following…

 

doubleofive for accepting our backing of his #ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy (at his Star Wars Visual Comparisons twitter & website).

Chase Adams for an awesome #ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy gif (moving image) coming soon for the opening post of this thread.

zombie84 for his superb and comprehensive ‘Save Star Wars’ website and also ‘A Secret History Of Star Wars’ book.

To ‘none’ for generously preserving and re-hosting both the informative & insightful web sites by zombie84 linked above.

ADigitalMan for spearheading the old letter writing campaign - back in the day.

Jay for all the tireless work, effort & energy over the years - including the original petition - and still ‘admin-ing’ away.
 

To all the members and site staff on here - both past and present - in helping to make this resolute site what it is…
 

Finally… to George Lucas, the cast, crew, & amazing unsung talents who worked on all the Original Trilogy films - thank you all.

 
 

#ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy

 

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#1459502
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❗ <strong>#ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy</strong> | OriginalTrilogy.com’s enduring goal | How <strong>you</strong> can help ❗
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Yup. That’s us. You’re probably wondering how we got here…

A ‘Potted History’ - and also the continuing goal of the OriginalTrilogy•com & the community here; past, present & future.

 
(For those of us already familiar with the site’s history and the suppression of the original classic cuts… feel free to skip to the end!) 👍

 
 

A somewhat lengthy ‘Potted History’ of the OriginalTrilogy•com - and its goal…

Some supplemental background material for anyone unfamiliar with the history of the site, plus the various conflicting & disingenuous claims made by George & Lucasfilm as to why the unaltered theatrical cuts remain unavailable (on a quality modern digital format).

 

Jay - quoted from an article by our very own ‘Luke Skywalker’, back in early 2003, as to why Jay created the OT•com:-

“I created the site because I love film, both past and present, and I didn’t want to see some of my favourite films of all time fade away into obscurity. Star Wars should be preserved in its original form so future generations can experience it as we all have. Many people say online petitions have zero effect, but I’d rather know that I did all I could to gather fans and let their voices be heard.”

“I’m obviously not happy that George Lucas has decided to offer only finalized Special Editions of Star Wars on DVD. I hope Mr. Lucas understands that we’re not a bunch of rabid fan boys trying to push him around. We’re just trying to get him to understand that Star Wars is film history, and it should be preserved–not in a vault somewhere, but in a public format that the fans can enjoy.”

 

 

10th March 2003… The OT•com officially comes online (skynet style 😉) - the site petition gains traction and will eventually reach 72,000+ signatures; spearheading fan pressure campaigns at the time… culminating in a 2006 release of the theatrical versions of the Original Trilogy on DVD - albeit as bonus discs - on a repackaged release of the ‘2004 Special Edition’ DVD set.

Every journey has a first step… Every Saga has a beginning… These are the voyages of the… 😉

 
Jay’s original petition calling for George Lucas to release the theatrical versions of the Original Trilogy on DVD was hosted at the now defunct petitiononline•com website - though unfortunately frequent garbage and insulting comments were appearing on there amongst the many genuine signatures. These comments, coupled with the site’s restrictive controls in not being able to remove them - which could have damaged the integrity and cogency of the petition - led Jay to start afresh on an environment with it’s own petition ‘control system’; hence this place was swiftly created and then unleashed upon an unsuspecting world…

Originally, the forum on here was quite a basic and concise affair - mainly for ideas & suggestions from fellow fans who wished to contribute in someway to the cause of the petition’s goals, and for also recruiting other sites & publications who were sympathetic or keen to join and further strengthen the fan pressure on Lucasfilm. There was also an ‘Announcements’ section for site/petition news, a ‘Theatrical Cuts vs. Special Editions’ section for fans to learn about the many changes made to the OT films, a ‘General Star Wars Discussion’ section, and an ‘Off Topic’ section for anything else not covered by the other categories.

In little over a year, the OT•com forum had become a hive of scum and villainy dedicated members who had grown into a community interested in putting together and viewing our own fan-made preservation projects based on previous Original Trilogy releases - in the form of various laserdisc-to-dvd transfers - in a new and dedicated ‘Original Trilogy Preservation’ section of the forum. Skills, techniques, information, advice, stories, successes & failures, as well as answers to many questions & unknowns - all shared and experienced through the community on here, which had naturally evolved alongside the forum’s original premise - something which still remains true over 15 years later, on this, the most resolute and adaptable of places.

Well in, Jay. And also to every petition signee & every OT•com member who has contributed anything, something, on here too.

 

The actual above post can be viewed here - via the Internet Archive’s WayBack Machine

 

The actual above post can be viewed here - via the Internet Archive’s WayBack Machine

 

 

February 10th 2004 saw an announcement that many Star Wars fans long awaited - that the Original Trilogy films would finally be released on DVD…

The actual post on the official Star Wars website can be found here - via the Internet Archive’s Wayback Machine

 

That first release of the Original Trilogy on DVD in 2004 unfortunately did not carry the unaltered theatrical version of the films - but instead contained new and further changes made in addition to those previous alterations made for the 1997 Special Editions (aka ‘The Final Cut’ - according to George Lucas himself).

Fan reception at the time to these changes and the release itself (which became known as the ‘2004 Special Edition’ version) was one of bemusement and frustration; not only with the changes but also with quality control issues with the release. Members of OriginalTrilogy•com and Star Wars fans from all over the globe came together to strengthen support for the site’s petition and to continue to press Lucasfilm for a release of the much-loved unaltered theatrical versions of the three classic films…

 

 

The fans continue to campaign for a release of the original theatrical cuts… and then, two years later, in 2006…

 
StarWars•com announced on the 3rd May 2006 that the unaltered Original Trilogy would be released on DVD for the first time:-

StarWars•com’s actual post on the announcement can be found here - also via the Internet Archive’s Wayback Machine

 

On the 5th May appeared this article on the Baltimore Sun website featured quotes from Lucasfilm spokesman John Singh about the OriginalTrilogy•com - the passion of the fans here - as well as acknowledging that the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy are “…the movies that some fans have always wanted own, because they’re the ones they first saw in theaters.”

 
 
Jay’s response on the 8th May 2006 - to the news of the StarWars•com announcement re the classic version of the Original Trilogy being released on DVD:-

The fan pressure campaign spearheaded by the OriginalTrilogy•com, their members, the petition, and fans’ campaigning… had successfully resulted in Lucasfilm relenting… and finally agreeing to release the unaltered theatrical versions of the Original Trilogy films on DVD.

Jay’s actual post can be found here - via the Internet Archive’s Wayback Machine (read from the bottom of the page to the top)

 

 

 

Balance had been restored to The Force… (or something like that)

 

 

 

And then, just days later in May 2006, came a great disturbance in the The Force…

 
The news that the recently announced unaltered theatrical version release on DVD would be in letterbox format - and not in anamorphic widescreen…

Shortly followed by the further reveal that the transfer to be used for the release would be from what was used for the 1993 Definitive Edition Laserdiscs - a 13 year old project and, even back then (in 2006)… be of substandard quality - using compressed sound and adding DVNR to reduce the picture quality and detail further.
 

Fans here and elsewhere then immediately contacted Lucasfilm via email, phonecalls, faxes, and letters… informing them of our dissatisfaction with their decision to use this substandard transfer as a means to release the theatrical versions of the Original Trilogy on DVD…

An abridged screenshot image of Jay’s post on the OriginalTrilogy•com at the time:-

^ Jay’s actual post can be found here - via the Internet Archive’s Wayback Machine (read from the bottom of the page to the top)

 

 

Within days, after already receiving a mountain of criticism for their choice to use such a 13 year old substandard and limited quality laserdisc transfer for the coming 2006 DVD release, Lucasfilm then released this somewhat factually disingenuous statement, in reply…

The actual post can be viewed here - via the Internet Archive’s WayBack Machine
 

‘Disingenuous? How so?’ - we hear you say…
 

This topic, with multiple sources of information, is covered in the following section of the…

George Lucas: Star Wars Creator, Unreliable Narrator & Time Travelling Revisionist…’ - OT•com thread, in ‘Category 20’:-

20. The Lucasfilm claim that… ‘The negatives of the movies were permanently altered for the creation of the Special Editions’.
 

^ Needless to say, the claims made in the above 2006 Lucasfilm PR release were quickly debunked - disproving their notion that an unaltered theatrical cut release could not be physically done, or that the elements or negatives don’t exist anymore, or that the ‘permanently altered’ negatives cannot be copied and then be reconfigured. Along with claims that it would cost ‘millions of dollars’ to do, or that the classic cuts of the OT do not represent ‘George’s vision’ - when there have five separate official releases of ‘George’s visions’ to date. That other quality prints of the original cuts did in fact exist (especially interpositives, IB tecnicolor prints, three-color separation masters, and many quality 3rd or 4th generation prints) - does contradict the claim by Lucasfilm that…

“existing prints of the first versions (the unaltered theatrical version) are in poor condition”….

To say nothing of the somewhat mendacious Lucasfilm statement that the…

“1993 laserdisc masters represented the best source for providing the original versions as DVD bonus material”.

 

The above 2006 PR statement from Lucasfilm is, to date, the last time they have publicly commented on a release of the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy films.

“Over the years, a truly countless number of fans have told us that they would love to see and own the original version of that they remember seeing in theaters”.

and

“This is something that we’re very excited to be able to give to fans in response to their continuing enthusiasm for Star Wars.”

…has become forgotten, sidestepped and ignored… whilst Lucasfilm have not officially commented on the status or possibility of a dedicated release for the original version of the ground-breaking and much-loved three classic movies for years now.

 

 

As mentioned previously in this thread, the 2006 ‘GOUT’ DVD release suffered many quality issues…

 
More detailed information on the substandard 2006 ‘GOUT’ DVD release can be found at the SaveStarWars•com website, in the following article…

‘Got GOUT? The 2006 Original Version DVD Bonus Feature Fiasco’
 

and also on here in the ‘Archival / Historical discussions’ section of An Index Thread for Original Trilogy Discussion….
 

…Yet, to date, this is the only official digital format release of the Original Trilogy - in its unaltered theatrical version.

 

 

George’s artistic vision’ (as per the 2006 Lucasfilm PR release - and the later further changes of that ‘vision(s)’)…

 
Lucasfilm later made further alterations to the Original Trilogy films - for the 2011 blu ray release, and even more changes for the 2019 release on the Disney+ streaming service (later released on 4K physical media - aka the ‘2019 Special Edition’).

So, to date, there have been four ‘Special Edition’ version releases of the Original Trilogy - in 1997, 2004, 2011 and 2019.

Lucasfilm chose to not even issue ‘Change Lists’ for the 2011 and 2019 Special Edition releases of the Original Trilogy films - which would have chronicled the numerous and continuing changes made in each respective version - as they had previously done for both the 1997 and 2004 Special Edition releases.

The 2019 Special Edition version also appeared on the Disney+ streaming service with no official announcement that further alterations had even been made to these three iconic films (these changes were made by George Lucas back in 2012 for a later-cancelled ‘3D release’ - before selling Lucasfilm to Disney later on in the year).
 

If George’s ‘vision(s)’ for the films results in numerous alterations and various Special Edition versions of the films, then as all of these differing versions were released to public as the ‘latest version of Star Wars’ at the time of release, the option should exist to still be able to view and experience all of them. Yet to suppress the original theatrical cuts - including both the original work and vision of the two directors who made Empire Strikes Back and Return Of The Jedi - is not something that George Lucas should be able to do - as George himself* admits, when stating they are not his films to change…

“A director should be able to change his film - but nobody else.”

^ At the time of above quote, George Lucas had already made changes to directors Irvin Kershner’s ‘Empire Strikes Back’, and Richard Marquand’s ‘Return Of The Jedi’, and would also make go on to make further additional changes to both films.

Neither the Empire Strikes Back or Return Of The Jedi are available as their respective directors intended, or indeed made, on a modern & quality digital format.
 

*: more information on this can be found in ‘Category 39: Who made the Original Trilogy films…? Whose are they to alter…?’ of the following OT•com thread:-

George Lucas: Star Wars Creator, Unreliable Narrator & Time Travelling Revisionist…

 

 

 

Whilst Lucasfilm have remained silent since its 2006 PR release, George Lucas himself did briefly talk about the issue of restoring the unaltered theatrical version of the films - when announcing the ‘2011 Special Edition’ version of the Original Trilogy for blu ray - back in 2010…
 

^ a screenshot image of the NY Times’ 2010 article re the ‘2011 Special Edition’ release on blu ray. The full article can be read below:-

https://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/08/14/star-wars-films-coming-to-blu-ray-next-year

 

Again, like the Lucasfilm PR release in 2006… George’s words in the above article are somewhat disingenuous…

“go through and do a whole restoration on it, and you have to do that digitally”

…when if fact you only need to restore & digitise the original theatrical scenes not used for the 1997 Special Edition, and then re-edit those scenes back into the film - not the whole process as stated by George - after all, the rest of the digitised restoration has already been completed.
 

The same applies to George’s claim that…

“It’s a very, very expensive process to do it. So when we did the transfer to digital, we only transferred really the upgraded version.”

…again, you only need to restore & digitise the original theatrical scenes not used for the 1997 Special Edition, and then re-edit those scenes back into the film - not the whole process as stated by George - afterall, the rest of the digitised restoration has already been completed.

 

SaveStarWars•com’s article on George Lucas’ 2011 blu ray announcement and restoration claims - ‘The Star Wars Blu-Ray Blues’ - goes into further detail on this…

 

 

 

In 2017 it was also confirmed that the footage from the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy, that was replaced for the 1997 Special Editions (and later SE releases) still exists - by 20th Century Fox’s Senior Vice President of ‘Library and Technical Services’ at the time, Shawn Belston:-

 

 

Another alternative approach to restoring the theatrical cuts of the OT films…

 
All of the above, of course, ignores the possibility of using any of the numerous film prints of the unaltered theatrical version of Original Trilogy films as an alternative source for provide a quality preservation or reconstructed release - interpositives, the three-color separation master, and IB Technicolor prints, or any superior 2nd generation copies struck from the original negative, 3rd and 4th generations copies, and so on… that are in Lucasfilm’s possession - or available to them…
 

^ The above image, and more information, can be found in the link below…

The Frequently Asked Questions section of the Save Star Wars website.
 

Working links contained in the above image can be found here:-

From Interpositives to Separation Masters: How Film Preservation Works - at the Save Star Wars website.

Saving Star Wars: The Special Edition Restoration Process and its Changing Physicality - at the SHoSW website (re-hosted by ‘none’).

 
 

What We Want And How To Make It’ - an article by doubleofive at the Star Wars Visual Comparisons website, also highlights that such a high quality preservation of the unaltered theatrical cuts of the Original Trilogy is indeed possible - by simply using the existing separation masters that have previously been utilised by Lucasfilm over the years.

 
 

We also know with certainty that other quality prints of the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy are still in existence… given Lucas’ showing of a 70mm print of Star Wars in 2019, and other various screenings - both private and public - over the years. Not to mention Lucas’ own theatrical Technicolor prints of the trilogy, other IB Technicolor prints known to exist and some have been shown, the interpositives and fine-grain prints, let alone numerous other prints in existence - and even theatrical prints out there which form the basis for fan preservations…

Even in 2006, Robert Harris - the man who had hand-restored ‘Vertigo’, ‘Lawrence of Arabia’, and ‘The Godfather’ - is on record saying he knows there are pristine 35mm elements available for use, and offered his services to restore the film - Lucasfilm did not respond to his offer.

 

 

 

In 2017, Lucasfilm employee and Lucasfilm Story Group member Pablo Hildago tweeted
 

^ So, it is not that such a release of the unaltered theatrical cuts cannot physically be done - or that the elements, negatives, prints, and masters don’t exist anymore - or that the negatives could not be copied and then be reconfigured. Nor is it claims that it would cost ‘millions of dollars’ to do, or that the classic cuts of the OT do not represent ‘George’s vision’ - when there have five separate official releases of ‘George’s visions’ to date - including the 1997 Special Edition (‘The Final Cut’). Nor is it the disproved claim by Lucasfilm that “existing prints of the first versions (the unaltered theatrical version) are in poor condition”

… it appears it is simply that one man doesn’t want the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy to be released.

 

 

 

The OriginalTrilogy•com’s petition is no more - with the site evolving and the members here taking it upon themselves to attempt to preserve the original cinematic version of these landmark films - with the love, care & respect they so richly deserve…

 
It has been these efforts and dedication from fans and communities on sites such as the OriginalTrilogy•com - and others similarly aligned - savestarwars•com, secrethistoryofstarwars•com, fanedits•com, thestarwarstrilogy•com, fanres•com, fanedit•org, plus many other countless websites and fan alliances highlighting the lack of an OOT release (as well as changes made to the various official releases since)… who came together, pooled their resources, skills, experiences, patience, dedication and determination to come up with preservations of the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy ourselves…

Projects that have surpassed the quality of previous official releases of the Original Trilogy from Lucasfilm - whether that be in the form of tape or laserdisc transfers to dvd some years ago, Harmy’s Despecialized Editions circa 2015 on blu ray and other digital formats, adywan’s Revisited OT fan edits as an alternative to the ‘Special Editions’ (from a certain point of view), to recent 4K digital preservation projects for the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy - from 35mm film sources.

In unison with these continuing and evolutionary fan-made projects, as well as many other countless efforts and beautiful endeavours along the way, all proving that quality releases of the unaltered cuts can be achieved, the enduring aim of this site remains the same; not to mention the legions of fans the world over - to be able to buy and experience an official release of the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy - the three classic films that underpin the entire Galaxy Far Far Away…
 

Even in 2017, for the much-heralded and publicised 40th Anniversary of Star Wars, Lucasfilm refused to answer the question as to whether they will release an official unaltered classic version of the Original Trilogy:-

the question asked by this very site in the form of an open letter

 

^ It also being the same question that is still continued to be asked of Lucasfilm - by numerous fans from all around the world…

…that Lucasfilm themselves have also previously acknowledged:-
 

“the biggest question we’ve ever gotten from Star Wars fans is, ‘When are you going to release the originals?’”

the “overwhelming demand” for the unaltered theatrical version.

the "long awaited release of original theatrical incarnations of the classic Star Wars trilogy.”

“over the years a truly countless number of fans have told us they would love to see and own the original version that they remember experiencing in the theatres.”

 

So here we still are - and now with even more fans from all over the world asking for the same thing too.

Just simply asking to have the option to purchase an official release for the unaltered original Star Wars Trilogy on a modern, high quality, digital format…

…done with the love, care & respect it so deserves. So we and future generations can all enjoy & experience them once more.

How To Help / What YOU can do…

 

May The Force - and the unaltered Original Trilogy - be with you… always.

 

 

 

 

Although already posted earlier in the thread, just in case it was missed, and for luck…

 

The following two insightful articles, by OriginalTrilogy•com member doubleofive, chronicles and highlights how many fans feel about not having the option to buy and experience an official release of the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy…

Disney+ Should Offer the Star Wars Original Cuts — All of Them - article at the Wired website.

What We Want And How To Make It - article at the Star Wars Visual Comparisons website.

 
 

doubleofive is also curator of the insightful & comprehensive ‘Star Wars Visual Comparisonstwitter page and website.

#ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy merch is available at SWVC - with 50% of any profit going to GiveWell.org’s Maximum Impact Fund.

 
 

An OT•com thread with many sources of information chronicling the changes made to the films over time can be found here:-

Complete Comparison of Special Edition Visual Changes - by doubleofive.
 

#ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy is not about the ‘theatrical cut vs the various special editions’ or which is ‘the best’, ‘preferred’, ‘canon’ or ‘definitive’ version. It is simply about giving the fans the opportunity to own and view any & all of the differing versions of the Original Trilogy - whilst also affording landmark film history to be once again enjoyed and experienced by everyone.

 

 

 

 

 

Some further information on the history of this site, and other related discussion topics, can also be found in these threads:-

An OriginalTrilogy.com Timeline | a history of the site | the why & how it came to be…

Some useful OriginalTrilogy.com threads re the non-release of the theatrical OT films | How you can help…

George Lucas: Star Wars Creator, Unreliable Narrator & Time Travelling Revisionist…

 
 

#ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy

 

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Some helpful resources / templates…

 

Some template message suggestions for use via Twitter

 
If you are on Twitter and would like to ask for the unaltered Original Trilogy films to be released - or promote awareness of this - then simply also use the ‘hashtag’ of… #ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy - along with links to @OriginalTrilogy & @StarWarsVisComp

And also let anyone else know - friends, family, colleagues, acquaintances, mortal enemies, immortal enemies, and others - who may be interested in asking for a release of the unaltered theatrical cuts of the Original Trilogy too…

 

Template Post ‘A’ (278 characters):-

 
I hope you’ll join us in our quest to have @Disney #ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy. We’ve waited so long to have the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy available again. To buy & experience the classic OT in FHD/4K @StarWars @ILMVFX @OriginalTrilogy @StarWarsVisComp

 

Template Post ‘B’ (280 characters):-

 
Please @Disney #ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy. Fans have waited long enough for the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy to be available again. Give fans the choice to view the iconic OT version once more - in FHD/4K @StarWars @ILMVFX @OriginalTrilogy @StarWarsVisComp

 

Template Post ‘C’ (280 characters):-

 
Please @Disney #ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy. Dedicated fans have lovingly restored the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy to 4K. Give us the choice to buy & experience an official release of the classic cuts too. @StarWars @ILMVFX @OriginalTrilogy @StarWarsVisComp

 

Template Post ‘D’ (280 characters):-

 
Please @Disney #ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy. Give fans the choice to buy and experience all of the differing versions of the Original Trilogy - whether that is the unaltered theatrical version, & 1997 Special Edition releases too. @StarWars @ILMVFX @OriginalTrilogy @StarWarsVisComp

 

Again, if you so wish, also include the hashtag of #ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy… in any civil and polite post you make asking for a release of the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy… or in any general correspondence with the following:-

https://twitter.com/starwars - @StarWars
https://twitter.com/Disney - @Disney
https://twitter.com/ILMVFX - @ILMVFX
https://twitter.com/starwarsviscomp - @StarWarsVisComp
https://twitter.com/originaltrilogy - @OriginalTrilogy (this site)

 

 

Some template message suggestions for use via Facebook

 
Any of the templates suggested for use via Twitter above… can also be used to make a post, or send a message - using the hashtag of #ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy - on the official Facebook pages for Star Wars, Lucasfilm, and Disney:-

www.facebook.com/StarWars
www.facebook.com/lucasfilm
www.facebook.com/Disney
 

Please be both polite and civil, thank you.

 

 

For those ‘old skool’ members who would prefer the more traditional practice of sending a letter or an email…

 
Three letter templates for anyone who would like to use them for contacting Lucasfilm or Disney and asking them to release the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy…

Also, massive kudos to SilverWook for providing the basis of these template letters - taken from his Dear Disney open letter.

(Feel free to re-word or edit these to your own style - to include your reasons why you want to see such a release of the Original Trilogy - or write your own letter to Lucasfilm or Disney. But remember… please be both polite and civil, thank you.)

 

Letter Template ‘A’ (long):-

 
Dear Lucasfilm & Disney,

Over 25 years have passed - a generation - since the last dedicated release of the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy. The version many of us grew up with. The films that changed our lives forever.

Saying that isn’t hyperbole. Those of who were there on the start of that incredible journey in the summer of '77 has never seen anything like it. It was a major event in our lives. Some of us came away wanting to know how it was made. It prompted a desire in some of us to make movies or tell stories of our own. No matter the path we chose, George Lucas, the talented cast, and innovative and dedicated crew around him lit a spark that remains with us today.

One thing we all share are the memories of where and with whom we saw Star Wars, and even of shooting down imaginary TIE Fighters out the back window of the car on the way home. For others, it was a bright shining light in the middle of a turbulent childhood in troubling times. If Luke and friends could triumph over their trials, maybe we could too…

We saw the movie over and over again, probably more than any other movie before or since. We know the lines by heart, we love the characters, yet also appreciate and admire the efforts of the many skilled artisans, sound technicians, craftsmen (and women), and special & visual effects with their priceless contributions to making film history.

All these years later, we would love to revisit the Original Trilogy we remember, to recapture those memories of a long time ago, in a movie theater far far away. Those of us with families want to be able to show our kids, and grand-kids, exactly what we saw when we were their age and relive it with them. It should be such a simple thing to do…

Only it isn’t.

We’re limited in our choices to outdated video formats that are increasingly difficult to obtains and inch close to extinction each passing year. And the now out-of-print bonus DVDs from 2006, which utilize ancient video transfers from 1993, are hardly better, if one can find them at all.

None of us ever imagined that these historic versions might fade from memory, ultimately disappearing from collective consciousness altogether. To the point where CGI insertions in later Special Editions changes are now mistaken for innovative FX technology of the 1970’s and early 1980’s. Film history is being obscured, if not rewritten.

We don’t bemoan the various Special Edition versions or their availability either. Yet they simply aren’t the version of the Trilogy we fell i love with. The iconic, pioneering and award-winning unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy deserves to be seen and experienced in the absolute best quality afforded by modern cinema and 21st century home video format, so that it can be loved again by all.

There is room for all version of Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back, and Return Of The Jedi to be experienced. And want to give you our money for the classic version too; we really do! Please give us that opportunity. At least give us hope that we will be able to do so soon. Some of us aren’t getting any younger.

That is all we ask, and we look forward to your reply.
 

NB. Years ago Lucasfilm stated “we could not put the extraordinary time and resources into this project (the ‘2006 GOUT DVD’ bonus disc release) as we did with the Special Editions”. If this is still so… then please consider providing a respected and experienced company such as Criterion with copies of the elements required to produce an official release of the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy - in the highest possible quality home video digital format.
 

Sincerely yours,

insert your name here

#ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy

 

 

Letter Template ‘B’ (medium):-

 
Dear Lucasfilm & Disney,

It has been more than 25 years - an entire generation - since the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy films had a dedicated release. The classic version so many of us grew up with, underpinning the entire Galaxy Far Far Away.

While many of us appreciate and enjoy George Lucas’ creative evolution of the classic Star Wars films via the various releases of the ever-changing ‘Special Editions’, we respectfully state there is tremendous importance in the original prints of the Star Wars Trilogy…

Above and beyond the nostalgic value they hold for millions of fans the world over, Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back and Return Of The Jedi are landmark films that represent watershed moments in motion picture history. To preserve the original, award-winning work of the many artisans, craftsmen (and women), and special effects artists is to do justice to their priceless contributions.

Undeniably, these movies are also cultural placeholders for millions of film fans. The impact that the original Star Wars Trilogy made on countless numbers of children, young people and grownups everywhere is indisputable. Preserving the unaltered theatrical release forms of these movies and making them available again to the public is of utmost importance.

An entire generation grew up with these movies and still love them dearly. We have treasure memories which will always hold a place in our lives. We have bought the cinema tickets, video tapes, CEDs, laserdiscs, VCDs, DVDs, blu rays, 4K releases, artwork, posters, comics, soundtracks, games, figures, toys, lunchboxes, the various Special Editions, the Prequels, the Sequels, Standalone movies, The Mandalorian series, subscriptions to Disney+, visiting the theme parks and Star Wars attractions - and literally bought the t-shirt…

… we just ask for the option to buy and experience the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy once more - on a high quality, modern digital format.

That is all we ask for, and we look forward to your reply.
 

NB. Years ago Lucasfilm stated “we could not put the extraordinary time and resources into this project (the ‘2006 GOUT DVD’ bonus disc release) as we did with the Special Editions”. If this is still so… then please consider providing a respected and experienced company such as Criterion with copies of the elements required to produce an official release of the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy - in the highest possible quality home video digital format.
 

Sincerely yours,

insert your name here

#ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy

 

 

Letter Template ‘C’ (short):-

 
Dear Lucasfilm & Disney,

It has been more than 25 years - an entire generation - since the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy films had a dedicated release. The classic version so many of us grew up with, underpinning the entire Galaxy Far Far Away.

While many of us appreciate and enjoy George Lucas’ creative evolution of the classic Star Wars films via the various releases of the ever-changing ‘Special Editions’, we respectfully state there is tremendous importance in the original prints of the Star Wars Trilogy… to experience the original, award-winning work of the many artisans, craftsmen (and women), and special effects artists is to do justice to their priceless contributions - an important and cultural part of American film history.

All these years later, we would love to revisit the iconic Original Trilogy that we remember, to recapture those memories of a long time ago, in a movie theater far far away. Those of us with families want to be able to show our kids exactly what we saw when we were their age and relive it with them. It should be such a simple thing to do.

Only it isn’t.

Yet we believe there is indeed room for all versions of Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back, and Return of The Jedi to exist. And we want to give you our money for them; we really do! Please give us that opportunity, or at least give us hope that we will be able to do so soon. That is all we ask for, and we look forward to your reply.
 

NB. Years ago Lucasfilm stated “we could not put the extraordinary time and resources into this project (the ‘2006 GOUT DVD’ bonus disc release) as we did with the Special Editions”. If this is still so… then please consider providing a respected and experienced company such as Criterion with copies of the elements required to produce an official release of the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy - in the highest possible quality home video digital format.
 

Sincerely yours,

insert your name here

#ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy

 

 

#ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy

 

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How To Help / What YOU can do…

 

Simply contact Lucasfilm and Disney to ask the following two-part question:-
 

  1. For them to make available an official release of the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy - in the highest quality possible - on a modern digital home video format - and done with the care, love and respect it so deserves.

Should Lucasfilm or Disney not be interested in undertaking such a release…

  1. To ask Disney & Lucasfilm to strike a deal with Criterion (or another respected preservation & restoration company) and for them to be given access to copies of the necessary film prints and elements in order to complete an officially licensed and highest quality release possible… of the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy - on a modern digital home video format.
     

^ A release for the version of the Original Trilogy that Lucasfilm has admitted to there being an ‘overwhelming demand’ for, and that Lucasfilm employees are asked repeatedly about even today. The version that people who worked on the three original classic films wish to have available. Not forgetting the countless number of fans who would still love to have the choice of buying and experiencing these fondly remembered and much cherished original cuts once again - to sit down and enjoy with their children, childrens’ children, friends & loved ones, and also for a new audience to savour - the world over…
 

Hopefully these honest, open, transparent questions and requests to Lucasfilm & Disney will not remain unanswered - as there is no big secret or complex reason as to why such a release for the classic version of the Original Trilogy cannot be achieved.

There is nothing detrimental in the owners and creators of the franchise answering this simple request for such information. Why not issue a reply, statement or long-awaited update highlighting the reasons why the countless fans of Star Wars across the globe still cannot have the option to buy & own such an official release for the original award-winning and iconic films?

Or they could simply persevere in staying silent on the issue - ignoring the fans - while also asking those same fans to continue to buy, support and watch the other ever-growing catalog of Star Wars content available (with the vast array of merchandise)… all whilst the classic version of the three original films that underpin all of the Galaxy Far Far Away… remains unavailable.

 

 

So join us… and together we can rule the galaxy continue to ask for an official release of the three classic Original Trilogy films, or even just for a reply, or for more information as to our two-part question above…

(There are some Helpful Resources / Templates etc’ available in the post below - should you wish to use them for when contacting Lucasfilm & Disney.)
 

You, and anyone else you know who may be interested… friends, family, loved ones, colleagues, acquaintances, mortal enemies, immortal enemies, your YouTube or other social media followers, and anyone else interested… can contact Lucasfilm and / or Disney to ask the above two-part question - to inform them of your wish to be able to buy and experience the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy on a high quality, modern digital format… (please be civil & polite) here:-

 
 

If you are on Twitter or Facebook and would like to promote awareness of the campaign…

…and simply use the ‘hashtag’ of #ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy - with optional links to the OriginalTrilogy•com and Star Wars Visual Comparisons twitter pages; @OriginalTrilogy & @StarWarsVisComp - in highlighting your wish to have the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy released.
 

When on Twitter, you can also include a link to the following:-

https://twitter.com/starwars - @StarWars
https://twitter.com/Disney - @Disney
https://twitter.com/ILMVFX - @ILMVFX (Lucasfilm’s largest presence on twitter)

 

Lucafilm, Star Wars, and Disney also all have official Facebook pages where they can also be contacted / sent a message:-

https://www.facebook.com/lucasfilm
https://www.facebook.com/StarWars
https://www.facebook.com/Disney
 
 

Also, if you wish, simply use the hashtag of #ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy when talking about Star Wars in general on Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, Reddit, Imgur, Instagram, or other social media accounts.

 
 

If you prefer the more ‘old skool’ way of contacting someone (or if you don’t have Twitter or Facebook etc)…

 

📧 E-mail LucasFilm at publicrelations@lucasfilm.com
 

📫 Via snail mail, here:-

LucasFilm
P.O. Box 29901
San Francisco, CA 94129-0901
USA
Attn: Kathleen Kennedy
 

📞 Via telephoning Lucasfilm at (415) 623-1000, and ask for the PR department.

 
 

You can also contact Disney to ask them the above questions - and also let them know of your wish to be able to buy and experience the classic version of the Original Trilogy on a high quality, modern digital format… (please be civil & polite) here:-

 

📧 E-mail Bob Chapek at Robert.Chapek@disney.com
 

📫 Via snail mail, here:-

Walt Disney Studios
500 South Buena Vista Street
Burbank, CA 91521
USA
Attn: Bob Chapek
 

📞 Via telephoning Disney’s main switchboard at (818) 560-1000.

 

 

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An introduction…

The enduring goal of OriginalTrilogy•com… and us supporting #ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy - by Star Wars Visual Comparisons.

 

25+ years have passed - a generation - since the last dedicated release of the unaltered theatrical cut of the Original Trilogy.

15 years have passed since the release of the ‘GOUT’ DVDs of the classic version of the OT films as ‘bonus disks’ - which was considered a lazy & substandard effort even back in 2006; its source being a laserdisc master for a previous 1993 release.
 

This thread serves as a reminder as to what the OriginalTrilogy•com is about, why it was created, a little of the site’s history, its evolution into fan preservations & fan edits, and also the site’s enduring goal - the same now in 2021 as it was back in 2003…

As a wise old young middle-aged man once said…

 
"While many of us appreciate and enjoy George Lucas’ creative evolution of the classic Star Wars films via the various releases of the ever-changing ‘Special Editions’, we respectfully state that there is tremendous importance in the original theatrical prints of the Star Wars Trilogy.

Above and beyond the nostalgic value that they hold for millions of fans the world over, Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi are landmark films that represent watershed moments in motion picture history. To preserve the original, award-winning work of the many artisans, sound technicians, craftsmen, and special effects artists is to do justice to their priceless contributions.

Undeniably, these movies are also cultural placeholders for millions of film fans. The impact that the original Star Wars Trilogy made on countless numbers of children, young people, and grownups everywhere is indisputable. Preserving the unaltered theatrical release forms of these movies and making them available to the public is of utmost importance.

An entire generation grew up with these movies and still love them dearly. We have created treasured memories and will always hold a place in our lives. We have bought the cinema tickets, video tapes, Laserdiscs, VCDs, DVDs, Blu Rays, artwork, posters, comics, books, soundtracks, games, figures, toys, lunchboxes, the various Special Editions, spin-offs, the Prequels, the Sequels, Standalone movies, Holiday Special, the Ewok movies, the many animated tv series - and literally bought the t-shirt…

…we just ask for the option to buy & watch the unaltered original Star Wars Trilogy - on a high quality, modern digital format."

^ some bloke named Jay (paraphrased).

 

 

#ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy

^ by doubleofive - OT•com member and curator of the comprehensive ‘Star Wars Visual Comparisonstwitter page & website.
 

 
In 2020, shortly after the 2019 ‘Maclunkey’ Special Edition version of the Original Trilogy films were made available on their newly operational Disney+ streaming service, doubleofive wrote a compelling article for the Wired website, and later a follow-up piece on the Star Wars Visual Comparisons website… highlighting the numerous alterations made to the films over the years and the differing Special Edition releases. Within these articles is an appeal to both Disney & Lucasfilm…

…To make available all the differing incarnations of the Original Trilogy over the years - to #ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy
 

The two insightful articles written by doubleofive are linked to below - they also chronicle and highlight how many fans feel about not having the option to buy and experience an official release of the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy:-

Disney+ Should Offer the Star Wars Original Cuts — All of Them - article at the Wired website.

What We Want And How To Make It - article at the Star Wars Visual Comparisons website.

 

#ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy merch is available at SWVC - with 50% of any profit going to GiveWell.org’s Maximum Impact Fund.

#ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy is not about the ‘theatrical cut vs the various special editions’ or which is ‘the best’, ‘preferred’, ‘canon’ or ‘definitive’ version. It is simply about giving the fans the opportunity to own and view any & all of the differing versions of the Original Trilogy - whilst also affording landmark film history to be once again enjoyed and experienced by everyone.

 
 

This is obviously something the OriginalTrilogy•com site staff and the overwhelming number of members here fully endorse.

Hence the creation of this thread in supporting doubleofive’s #ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy campaign - with some additional information below on how us, the fans, can all help contribute and hopefully realise such a release for these three iconic films…

 

 

#ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy