The Resident Alien finale was last night - a fitting ending to a fun enjoyable show. 👍
 

 
A quality interview with the creator: www.tvfanatic.com/resident-alien-series-finale-creator-chris-sheridan-exclusive-interview

And with Alan Tudyk: https://tvline.com/interviews/resident-alien-series-finale-alan-tudyk-ending-explained-1235481432
 

A couple of good sources for that would be…

Star Wars Costumes: The Original Trilogy book - https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Wars_Costumes:_The_Original_Trilogy

The Making of Return of the Jedi book - https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/The_Making_of_Return_of_the_Jedi

 
This may also give you an idea of it…

Behind the Scenes - Warwick and Son - Star Wars Episode IX The Rise of Skywalker 2019 - 5 minute youtube video

Return of the Ewok - 25 minute video

 
Probably some of the ‘Making Of’ videos for the 2 mid-80s Ewok theatrical films?

And fan-made tribute videos to the likes of Stuart Freeborn and other costume contributors?

www.tomspinadesigns.com/restoration/star-wars-props/return-of-the-jedi-ewok-masks-displays - from TS is pretty cool.

https://ukm.propstoreauction.com/lot-details/index/catalog/169/lot/47402/Lot-778-STAR-WARS-RETURN-OF-THE-JEDI-1983-Ewok-John-Pedrick-Mask - has some nice detailed pics.
 

That’s all I got and can think of right now…
 

Good luck with it. 👍
 

andreasvanriet said:

Hi, this looks amazing!

Could please you send me a message on how to acquire the film?

Best

Why not simply follow the instructions provided by ElectricTriangle in the opening post of the project thread?:-

ElectricTriangle said:

Now available. PM me (click my user name and then select “start a private topic”). Also on myspleen and blutopia.

 
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Hopefully the project threads will soon get back to being discussions about the actual projects themselves - queries, feedback, reviews, exchange of ideas, suggestions for future versions etc - and not be full of endless & unnecessary ‘link request’ posts.

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Good luck with it. 👍
 

benduwan said:

https://youtu.be/J7ygjomkfXQ?si=hFGzLOOxStfiK6xO
https://youtu.be/d1AAd1tsPds?si=CcVYp0DL6ejkh26R

Great minds think alike - or something like that! I was about to post those, too. 😃
 

Star Wars: A New Hope - Cantina Archeology Part 1: Behind The Scenes of the Mos Eisley Cantina - UK - 50 minutes

Star Wars: A New Hope - Cantina Archeology Part 2: Behind The Scenes of the Mos Eisley Cantina - US - 50 minutes

^ both are from The Credible Nerds youtube channel; with Pablo Hidalgo and Tom Spina from their 2017/18 panels. 👍
 

If you find any more similar videos or articles please post them up, mate.
 

oneway said:

Let me try to get this straight.

You just spent multiple paragraphs, explaining great detail how you reproduced a tv series into HD just to tell people that they can only get it at a place that is not available to those reading.

They can be invited, but you’re not going to invite them yourself, you just want them to know that

You are also unwilling to share it any other place.

So WHY IN THE WORLD are you sharing so that here where no one had access?!?.
Does this belong here? Do you need to be reported? Are you making this up? How did we even know what you’re saying is true?

What’s the benefit of telling people except to go on about yourself?

“What goes around comes around buddy”. (Some author)

Are you trolling?

lorang has been on here some 20 years - is a valued and respected member of the community - who has undertaken several well received projects.

The places where lorang uploaded his projects - are there for anyone with an account to see - and have received very positive feedback and reviews over the years.

The history of MySpleen, and why in the main it no longer gives out invites, is there for all to see (clue; lots of hit & runners, trolls, and entitled idiots who don’t know what they’re talking about making ignorant posts and incorrect claims).

oneway said:

grichard79 said:

Hi there. There is a specific episode of Fall Guy season 4 I’d love to see in HD. Is there any way we could make that happen. Just wanted to ask – I understand if there is no option to share. Thank you.

There’s always an option. It’s whether someone is willing or unwilling. In this case, there’s no real evidence that this project was ever done. Just someone speaking thin electronic words into a web page, via forum, about something he’s claiming to have done. Why share, in word only, but not the actual project, unless it’s just to make yourself feel significant in some way? Where’s the logic and the benefit to ones self or anyone else for that matter? Hmmm?

The evidence is indeed there - many of us have seen it.

lorang is also indeed ‘willing’ as you put… as he’s taken the time and effort to make these available on the aforementioned places… - as well as clearly making them available in offering them for trade.
 

You may also want to have a look at…

I have found a Fan Edit / Preservation Project I am interested in - but I don’t know how to get / acquire / download it?

^ Fellow members are more likely to help you out if you are a participating member of the community here; you don’t have to be a fellow fan editor, preservationist, tech wiz, artistic or skilled etc… just a member that has made, or is making, an effort.
 

Those who turn up here and demand projects, accuse creators of lies and um… not having made the actual project, then try to denigrate them… likely won’t be getting that help… or that project. I am sure you understand why that is.

We’re a community here - not a download site.
 

An informative video - with lots of BTS photos and some interviews from the people worked on the film…

The Mos Eisley Cantina | Behind the scenes of the Star Wars Cantina | The Jedi Beat

www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-jPqScS81U - 26 minute video from the ForceCenter youtube channel.
 

The blurb: 'The Mos Eisley Cantina in A New Hope is one of the most iconic Star Wars scenes, and yet, it was almost a disaster. From budget problems to mask ventilation issues, it took a lot of movie magic to make this scene work. So how did the Star Wars production team pull it off? And why has this scene become so beloved amongst fans? On this episode of the Jedi Beat, go behind the scenes of that legendary watering hole in a galaxy far far away!

From the minds of Ken Napzok (comedian, host of The Blathering), Joseph Scrimshaw (comedian, writer, director of Dead Media), and Jennifer Landa (actress, YouTuber, crafter, contributor on StarWars.com) comes the ForceCenter Podcast Feed. Here you will find a series of shows exploring, discussing, and celebrating everything about Star Wars. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts and Google Podcasts. Listen on TuneIn, Stitcher, Spotify, and more!’

^ with timestamps in the youtube description…
 

^ Was that on here? That definitely rings a bell (someone ripping the old ‘Behind The Magic’ for additional scenes)…
 

^ Spot on, mate. All of it. 👍

Star Wars Cantina Scenes - Raw Footage (1976)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsKRDKTKIFw - a 3+ minute video form the 70sSciFiBoy youtube channel.
 

The blurb: 'Star Wars Cantina Scenes - Raw Footage (1976). A lot of raw test footage was shot for the Iconic Cantina scene in Star Wars. This video shows a few of the original aliens that didn’t make it into the final cut, as well as Han Solo’s girlfriend “Jenny”.

George Lucas played with a couple of variations to the scene with Walrus man (Ponda Baba) and Ben Kenobi, the other more well known version shows his dismembered arm (with a flipper). The beheading was deemed too severe as it would give Luke a bad impression of Ben.

A longer (but lower quality) version can be found here: • ‘Cantina Raw Footage Star Wars 1977’
 

A ‘Quick-Find’ version of ‘The Index for Star Wars Preservation Projects’…

I’d love to be able to update the ‘Project Index’ and include a number of additional categories - to make content much easier to find and access… unfortunately it would result in having to delete some of the comments in this thread to make that possible.
 

https://originaltrilogy.com/user/furious88/id/100622 - spam

EndlessUniverse said:

I thought the work put into the reviews and breakdowns of each film per video showed a true passion for the franchise, which is respectable. Very thorough analyses of the prequels, while still being really funny. And the Revenge of Nadine was the cherry on top. RLM is run by people with actual filmmaking experience, and as a result, the quality/craft of those videos were far higher than anything on youtube at the time. The only other reviews of the prequels I though were comparable were from Confused Matthew.

Yeah, a pity Confused Matthew and some of the other discerning PT review videos became overlooked when RLM videos came to everyone’s attention. The CM videos especially - they were out and available a full year before RLM (back in the day of 10 minute maximum length youtube videos!)

They and a few other videos around that time can be found here (as well as the general hype for the Prequels etc)…

Phil Tippett on the Special Editions: “They’re shit” + £2b for George to direct the Prequels
 

^ though unfortunately a number of other similar PT review videos are no longer available; either being taken down - or channels that no longer exist. There are also ~25 written reviews for each of the Prequel films from around the time of release in the above link.
 

SomethinSomethinDarkSide said:

darklordoftech said:

Seven years is plenty of time for a first-time viewer to become a devoted fan, so yes. Also interesting that it’s the one version never to be released on DVD.

That was me. Saw the movies for the first time when I was 7 in 1997 and grew up with the SEs. Most of the 2004 changes rubbed me the wrong way.

Most of the 2004 changes rubbed many of us up the wrong way, mate. 👍

And that’s before we get on to those awful ‘deliberate creative decisions’ for the 2004 release (which were magically fixed for the 2011 release!) 😉
 

It is surprising that the 1997 Special Editions haven’t been made available on Disney+ - in the same way other content like 2003 Clone Wars has, or other ‘non-canon’ releases have - via their ‘Vintage Collection’ section. They even have pristine prints of the 1997SE at the ready.

They do form an integral part of Star Wars history - and were how many fans saw the films on the big screen at the time.
 

piscsfy said:

May someone pm me the download link, please?

 
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Good luck with it. 👍
 

I didn’t realise this was your first edit, mate. For some reason I thought you’d done a fair few before - regardless, wishing you all the best with this. 👍
 

Wraths said:

oojason said:

DavidSeleznovas said:

oojason said:

JoeBlow2494 said:

This looks incredible! Would anyone be able to PM a download link if possible?

 
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Good luck with it. 👍
 

Please repost the links in a new forums publication, the creater has vanished…

No, they haven’t.

Send remsouille a PM politely asking how to acquire the project. 👍
 

You are mistaken.

remsouille has not ‘vanished’ as you claim. remsouille was last on here on 29th July, 2025 - it is there for all to see. 👍
 

It has been a good while since I burned anything on a Mac - so this is mainly from memory…

Toast, Burn, Disco, and iDVD were all pretty good and easy ways of burning DVDs, IIRC. Hopefully they are all still obtainable and work okay.

www.videohelp.com used to be really useful site for finding this kind of info - it may be worth checking out for more advice and up-to-date suggestions for software. 👍
 

Re Harmy’s Despecialized Edits - it’d be a pity to compress them to fit a DVDs. Would it be better to simply buy a portable USB drive and keep them on there? Evan a decent branded 128gb USB drive only costs ~£10 (and you’ll be able to put a lot more other content on there too).
 

Whatever you decide, please let us know how you get on with using any of the above software (or any other software you may end use using to burn to a DVD). 👍

Good luck with it!
 

Posted with the kind blessing of Williarob over on TSWT - a preservation of his own Beta set…

^ a couple of images of the Star Wars Trilogy on Betamax (1984/86 CBS-Fox releases) found online - for illustrative purposes.

• Star Wars: 2.19gb - an mkv file.

• Empire Strikes Back: 2.28gb - an mkv file.

• Return Of The Jedi: 2.45gb - an mkv file.

^ 6.92gb in total.

Screenshots (from Willarob’s own Betmax set)…
 

Available via 📍 300+ available Original Trilogy Preservations - from a long time ago . . . . 📍 - or on the TSWT forum. 👍
 

^ If anyone has any VHD, Video2000, and Video8 format preservation projects for the Original Trilogy, please send me a PM. Thanks.

Those great old Betamax machines from back in the day were truly something else…

Plus, seeing Scotch tapes being used for the official Beta release brings back fond old memories…

www.youtube.com/watch?v=AL3mpzAvHFA

‘Star Wars: A New Hope Returns to Theaters for 50th Anniversary’

Experience the classic Star Wars film with a theatrical re-release beginning in April of 2027.

www.starwars.com/news/star-wars-50th-anniversary-theatrical-release | Archived screenshot
 

 
'On April 30th, 2027, we’ll celebrate the 50th anniversary of Star Wars with a re-release of the 1977 classic back for a limited time, in theaters everywhere.

Part of Lucasfilm’s yearlong 50th anniversary celebration, Star Wars: A New Hope will play in theaters over the May the 4th holiday, also known as Star Wars Day.

Switch on your targeting computer and keep your eyes on StarWars.com for more details, including when and where to buy tickets to this once-in-a-generation event.’

This will likely be a theatrical showing of the 2019 ‘Maclunkey’ Special Editions? Be interesting to get some confirmation on that.

Bizarre they aren’t showing it over the week of 25th May - the actual 50th anniversary - but… oh well.

Quite a mixed / confusing announcement. Yet it is Star Wars on the big screen! 👍 (even if it is the 2019 Maclunkey cut? 👎)

Stellar work - that is some accomplishment, Mackey256. Well in, mate! 👍
 

Director said:

oojason said:

Director said:

oojason said:

Director said:

about the 1997 version DVD which was mentioned earlier: it was released on DVD as a part of Fox’s Five Star collection set. I have heard most people criticise this DVD, but because I have even after 2 years, found no copy of this widescreen home media 1997 version, I can not say anything.

It was not an official release by Fox at all - it was a bootleg.

Many of the older members on here likely still likely have this set from Far East Asia - it was a decent quality bootleg at the time… and was considered to be amongst the higher-rated bootlegs from that era.
 

The ‘Five Star’ release was a laserdisc-to-DVD transfer, in letterbox widescreen, each OT film being on a DVD9 disc, and despite the cover claiming it had ‘5.1 DTS’ audio… it did not. Though it did have a few nice extras on the discs - a menu screen with options! A 1997 SE film trailer, chapter selection, subtitle options, and audio options.
 

There is more about it here: 1997 SE - Five Star Collection - any interest in a Preservation? (Released) and in…

1997 Special Edition OT Preservation Projects (+ discussions) in An Index Of Projects for… Star Wars Preservations
 

by the way, are these 1997 Special Editions available on any torrent sites etc as rips? I have found a few but they have 0 seeders.

 
The 1997 SE ‘Five Star’ DVD bootlegs - as well as 15+ other 1997 Special Edition projects are all available here:-

📍 250+ available Original Trilogy Preservations - some from a long time ago . . . . 📍
 

^ Though none are available to you.
 

Your trolling… within your 1997SE project, unwillingness to provide sources for it, your repeated nonsensical and vague claims - despite being informed & corrected by many on here and TSWT (who have proven time and time again you have little grasp of facts & history - and you being completely unwilling to learn from them), as well as you kicking off at the mods on TSWT resulting in your ban… made that an easy decision.
 

Maybe you’ll find them elsewhere online - good luck with that.
 

well, that was rudely said. I have responded to all questions that have been given to me, and am constructing a new restoration without the old sources. the reason I did the restorations in the first place was that none of the 1997 version torrents etc worked, so I had to make my own. I have followed all guidelines and am not going to try to unban myself in the other forum, as it has no meaning to me. I have not trolled anyone, but it is rather the community’s accusations.I have mentioned the majority of my sources. this community is actively trying to frame me, which is disappointing to me. I have already apologised a million times about the possible mistakes I have made, and have done everything possible to satisfy the community. whether do you forgive me or not, you all keep bringing up the solved mistakes of mine, which I have already apologised for and done something different. I am very surprised that one long term restoration project of mine is getting so much hate just because I don’t provide information the same way as many accounts you are familiar with.

The Site Rules for Fan Projects clearly state:-

5. The source of all materials used in fan edits and preservation efforts must be cited, including retail releases, laserdisc transfers, special features, menus, covers, and artwork.

^ yet you have done everything but give those sources… Denials, a la ‘people think it is X - but it is not, but I’m not telling you what it is… but it is from the internet, and I do not have the time to give details. When I have time, perhaps etc’ kind of posts. Or ‘I have had some negative feedback so I am delaying the release of my project’ etc. Or other continuing vague answers to straight forward questions.

Along with some strange and wholly incorrect claims on the 1997SEs - despite people constantly pointing you to / informing you of the correct information.

To say nothing of your posts on TSWT to the moderators there - which resulted in your ban.

We are a fan community - when you abuse others… don’t be surprised if people won’t help you anymore - or are ‘rude’ to you.
 

Director said:

therefore I am very frustrated that I am being discriminated here regardless of the countless apologies I have given. I would absolutely be willing to request a copy of those versions, but because this community is so much “one chance only”, I think it would be useless anyways. the community’s actions have proven to me that this forum is not the forum I thought it was.

Playing at being a wronged victim is never a good look.

You make the above 2 posts, ignore me letting you know I won’t be giving you the project links, and then send me a PM asking for the 1997SE Five Star preservation once again!
 

The easiest and simplest thing for you to do is… actually list the sources of your project, apologise for any miscommunication or issues / incorrect claims, apologise to TSWT mods, and simply post a few screenshots a preview video of your project. Plus knock it off with the wronged victim / ‘being discriminated against’ act.

Then someone may be so inclined to help you out with what you’re looking for - but do NOT send me another PM.
 

lakamosque said:

oojason said:

So without Marcia introducing that ‘time-element’ - ‘a countdown clock’ - the ‘Death Star wasn’t about to destroy the Rebel Base’… this is what RocketJump alludes to, no?

The time clock came later in the editing to prop up the tension however the story point for the Death Star intending to destroy the Rebel Base was always there.

I don’t and didn’t dispute that. Read what I posted above again.
 

It’s hilarious how RJ credits almost everything to Marcia. The intercutting? Marcia. The time clock? Marcia. Removing Luke’s first run? Marcia.
To which each point, it actually goes:
The intercutting? Richard.
The time clock? Unknown, but wouldn’t surprise me if it was Richard yet again.
Removing Luke’s first run? Unknown.

Well, Marcia did recut the whole ‘Trench Run’ - as requested by George. You already know this - it is clearly stated in the video interview with Marcia and Ben Burtt, yes?

^ the ‘time clock’ - Marcia. Removing Luke’s first run - Marcia.
 

And yet so what if it did highlight Marcia’s contributions, or Richard Chew, or Paul Hirsch - or all 3 of them. Why not? It doesn’t take away from George - nor attacks or discredits him - it simply highlights the effect good and clever editing can have upon a film.

That would be fine IF it was true, but it isn’t.

And if it was about the editors, how come they never mention John Jympson? It gives the impression George made the first cut, called the British cut in Rinzler’s book, implying all the poor editing choices were on him instead of John. George never intended the movie to be like that cut. They intentionally mix all the cuts together.

As clearly stated in the blurb of the RocketJump video:-

‘A video essay exploring how Star Wars’ editors recut and rearranged Star Wars: A New Hope to create the cinematic classic it became’

As you even say yourself… ‘George never intended the movie to be like that’ (John Jympson’s cut). Hence JJ was fired / let go - and other editors given the task of re-cutting the film… the main focus of the RocketJump video; that editing team.

It was after George fan-boys & zealots watched that vitriolic Nerdonymous video did they seemed to be triggered into somehow thinking what you claim above.

I’ve always disagreed with George on so many different topics including not releasing the original cut on home video. I watched RJ’s video first, I couldn’t put it in words but I could tell something was off about it. I didn’t watch Nerdonymous’s video until much later and since then I’ve been cross-referencing to check how accurate all these videos that talk about the behind the scenes really are.

How have you have found cross-referencing the video interviews with Marica Lucas in the links provided? Where Marcia herself confirms what you still claim otherwise above? (in your ‘It’s hilarious how RJ credits almost everything to Marcia’ segment.)
 

^ Nerdonymous seems to get quite triggered and angry about it too… the agenda seething through… as he progresses with his “some fans”… “they want to burn him (Lucas) to the ground” & “they want to take everything away from him” spiel; whilst showing a FactRepublic image stating some of Marcia’s contributions to the film, and some of what she edited - for which she won an Oscar for (along with Hirsch and Chew).

First of all, Nerdonymous’s full quote for proper context:

“Some fans who don’t like what Lucas did with the Special Editions and or don’t like what he did with the Prequels aren’t satisfied with criticizing him on these bases. They want to burn him to the ground, they want to take everything away from him. Because they believe they did something unseemly to their childhood or something. That is why Star Wars was saved in the edit as opposed to it just went through the normal editing process that all films go to through.”

Second, I’ve never got the impression this meant he is “anti-fan preservation”. It’s crystal clear “everything” in this context means George’s contributions because that’s what the whole subject of the video is about.

Watch the video again and note what is on in the background when he gives the “some fans”… “they want to burn him (Lucas) to the ground” & “they want to take everything away from him” spiel. It is clear for all to see - much more than an ‘impression’ - with his agenda seething through.
 

So when you try to claim: “It just makes everyone that wants to see the theatrical versions look bad.” - is that an attempt at gaslighting? (I hope not). If it is, kindly knock it off.

That’s a textbook example of accusing others of what YOU are guilty off, especially with the weak excuses provided.

It was a question - with a heads-up that if you were gaslighting, that it doesn’t go down well on here. Interesting you didn’t deny that - and instead accuse someone with a different view of doing the same.

You may want to think about wising up there - doing something a little more constructive other than being an apologist for a vitriolic youtuber… who has issues with fan preservations.

Look in a mirror, you’re being an apologist for deceptive fans or, in this case, a pretend film school. And for the last part, either provide proof this is the case or knock it off.

Nope. I provided proof with content from Marcia herself - which you ignored (despite claims of crosschecking)… and you are still attempting a lengthy defence of Nerdonamous’ vitriolic video.
 

On here, we acknowledge and highlight the many contributions of everyone who worked on the Original Trilogy films - especially those who have been written out of the official history, or have had their roles downplayed, or diminished.

And when were Marcia or Paul or Richard written out of the official history? Rinzler’s book wouldn’t exist otherwise. If that somehow is not “good enough” in Marcia’s case, he interviewed her in his Howard Kazanjian book.

When you say “And when were Marcia written out of the official history?” (I didn’t say Hirsch or Chew were) - I’m not sure how you can say with a straight face after you read / ‘cross-referenced’ the listed links to Marcia’s contributions. It has been there for all to see - and has been for many years. Including not only others at Lucasfilm stating just that - yet also Marcia herself, yes?

You are aware a few others have also been written out of the official history, too? As previously stated… there some content about that on here - well worth a read.
 

Just because it makes some get so triggered to the point of fuming, here’s yet another video that goes much more in depth dispelling the Marcia and/or the editors “saved” the movie narrative:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LsxGGjyZ_Q

No, thanks. I’d rather not watch another Honeycutt video, thank you.

I tend to stick with more factual and insightful videos - from actual people involved in the process. I leave the vitriolic / clickbait / agenda videos to those that enjoy them.

Or a good book - ‘The Secret History Of Star Wars’ - now there’s a good book (an audio version is available, too).
 

If you’re going to attack George, do it for the things he ACTUALLY did. Like his handling of David Prowse, insisting the saga was “always” about the tragedy of Darth Vader when for a time there was material, like the first editions of the books, that officially called it “From the Adventures of Luke Skywalker” and/or the old reliable “Greedo shoots”. Don’t make up false narratives or straight up lie in how much he was involved in his films just to dunk on him.

Again, talking about the editing team on Star Wars does not detract from George - nor is it ‘an attack’ on George…

“I think George’s ‘ace in the hole’ was that he surrounded himself with an incredible team of people to work with, and listening and collaborating with them to help refine his incredible vision.”

^ RocketJump in the summing up their video.

Once more, the reason why they don’t talk about George’s shortcomings and issues is… that is not what this video is about…

‘A video essay exploring how Star Wars’ editors recut and rearranged Star Wars: A New Hope to create the cinematic classic it became’

Look, your mind is obviously made up… so I won’t waste time any further confusing you any further with facts (from Marcia herself).

If you don’t want to view or acknowledge them - that is up to you, of course. Yet those facts don’t cease to be because you simply ignore them - or your issues with ‘Marcia Marcia Marcia’… as you yourself put it.

Having said that, why not go watch that Honeycutt video you like to recommend again? Or nerdonymous’ video again? Maybe it’ll help with the Marcia issues a bit - or at least put a smile on your face. Good luck with it. 👍
 

Anakin94 said:

Hi,
are the credits of the Special Edition 1997 and 2004 the same?

Pretty much, mate.

There seems to be a slight different font used in the 2004 DVDs (less bold looking) - and there are a few odd credits where a person’s name has is omitted or added etc. An example: under ‘Sound Editors’ there is no Richard L Anderson listed in the 2004 credits (where he is listed in the 1997 credits).
 

I think there are some ‘comparison videos’ up on youtube covering the end credits for the various releases of the Star Wars films - though it has been a while… if you find a good example or two please post them up here. 👍

lakamosque said:

That guy with no name said:

What lies? What manipulations? Please indulge me, you seem to be an expert.
“advertising hit piece”. Are you ok?

Are you serious? The “professor” says this, making it sound like the editors introduced the following idea in the final battle: “The Death Star was not about to destroy the Rebel Base.” This was a story point since the third draft and in a slightly different manner, it was there in the second draft. Yep, the Death Star was relaxing waiting to be blown up. It totally wasn’t tracking the Millennium Falcon to discover and destroy the hidden Rebel Base. /s And that’s only one lie or how about the times they quote Rinzler’s book, but omit in-between sentences to change the context.
As for advertising, it’s an advertisement for a pretend online film school which, as of writing, no longer exists, lol. It’s a hit piece against George, that’s crystal clear like how the “professor” complains about George changing the text on the terminal from English to Aurebesh as if no one can understand what a bar suddenly decreasing after Obi-Wan turns a lever means, lmao.
I’m perfectly fine thank you very much however you don’t sound ok to me.

“The Death Star was not about to destroy the Rebel Base.” - huh… at 14m 45s into the RocketJump video:-

“But here’s the big difference: in that version [in the script] the Death Star wasn’t about to destroy the Rebel Base. I’ll say that again: the Death Star wasn’t about to destroy the Rebel Base… it was literally just sitting there waiting to be blown up. This is where Marcia Lucas came in: the first thing she did was recut the trench run - basically from the ground up [continues]…” - RocketJump.

…and here is Marcia Lucas in her own words stating she recut the Death Star trench run scenes and introduced the concept of ‘a countdown clock’ for the Death Star to destroy the Rebel Base:-

At 1h 08m 18s into this 2019 fascinating interview with Marcia and Ben Burtt (the whole thing is well worth a watch):-

“The thing that was missing was the ‘time-clock’: like how much time does Luke have to make his shot before something horrible is going to happen… and so we had earlier footage from the film…” [a few seconds later] “so we added that time-element” [continues on - and is very much worth watching]…

So without Marcia introducing that ‘time-element’ - ‘a countdown clock’ - the ‘Death Star wasn’t about to destroy the Rebel Base’… this is what RocketJump alludes to, no?

lakamosque said:

RocketJump’s video is an advertising hit piece for a pretend film school. Blame George for the genuine screw ups he did, but heavily implying he was the cause for every problem in the movie, manipulating and lying, and going “Marcia! Marcia! Marcia!” is so utterly disingenuous. It just makes everyone that wants to see the theatrical versions look bad.

Except, the RJ video didn’t do that. It didn’t do that at all.

“I think George’s ‘ace in the hole’ was that he surrounded himself with an incredible team of people to work with, and listening and collaborating with them to help refine his incredible vision.”

^ The RocketJump video in their summing up.

That not only applies to the editing of the film - but also the overall making of Star Wars itself. Not forgetting, of course, that near-on all films are ‘made’ / ‘saved’ in the editing process - “they say a film is written three times; first in the screenplay, next in production, and finally… in the edit.”
 

And yet so what if it did highlight Marcia’s contributions, or Richard Chew, or Paul Hirsch - or all 3 of them. Why not? It doesn’t take away from George - nor attacks or discredits him - it simply highlights the effect good and clever editing can have upon a film.

It was after George fan-boys & zealots watched that vitriolic Nerdonymous video did they seemed to be triggered into somehow thinking what you claim above.

Rocketjump’s video is ‘A video essay exploring how Star Wars’ editors recut and rearranged Star Wars: A New Hope to create the cinematic classic it became’ and is about the power and effects of film editing in general. The RJ video does indeed feature a few factual errors - though some of Nerdonymous claims and statements in his video are obviously nothing to do with RocketJump… but Nerdonymous’ own issues with fans he considers not to like George Lucas - or fans seemingly acknowledging or praising others’ contributions to the making of the Original Trilogy.

Including issues including this community.

^ Nerdonymous seems to get quite triggered and angry about it too… the agenda seething through… as he progresses with his “some fans”… “they want to burn him (Lucas) to the ground” & “they want to take everything away from him” spiel; whilst showing a FactRepublic image stating some of Marcia’s contributions to the film, and some of what she edited - for which she won an Oscar for (along with Hirsch and Chew).

So when you try to claim: “It just makes everyone that wants to see the theatrical versions look bad.” - is that an attempt at gaslighting? (I hope not). If it is, kindly knock it off. You may want to think about wising up there - doing something a little more constructive other than being an apologist for a vitriolic youtuber… who has issues with fan preservations.

On here, we acknowledge and highlight the many contributions of everyone who worked on the Original Trilogy films - especially those who have been written out of the official history, or have had their roles downplayed, or diminished.

There is more information on Marcia’s contributions (and many others) which can be found here…

• A few videos, interviews and specials etc… on Marcia Lucas and her many contributions to the Original Trilogy films

• Original Trilogy Film Crew & People Behind The Scenes: Profiles, Info & Links - 100+ creatives’ contributions to the OT…

• 3️⃣ Ⓒ • Many other pioneering and creative talents who collaborated and contributed to the making of the Original Trilogy

^ in An Index Thread for… Original Trilogy Discussion - please note the long-standing ‘caution’ under the Marcia Lucas section. 👍
 

TerryWan-Kenobi0369 said:

I’d love to have access to this cut. If anyone could send me a link, I would be most grateful.

Why not follow Jedi Matt’s advice in the post above yours, mate?:-

Jedi Matt said:

Romario_O said:

Please give me the link to download and view this Extended Edition.
Thanks!

You are best to contact him through PM, even better to do it on Fanedit dot org. It may take a while to hear from him, as he is a very busy man, but it will be worth the wait.

In general, simply sending a PM is the default way of asking for fan projects on here (unless indicated / instructed otherwise in the project thread)…

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Along with…

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Good luck with it. 👍