C’mon the RedMen for tonight!

MalàStrana said:

oojason said:

but it’s got nowt to do with Disney, so stop with the unsubstantiated claims - it also cheapens your viewpoint and those that may share your views on the retcons.

Isn’t Disney producing the new movies the same way they produce the Marvel or other series they own ? (real question)
Because it’s totally relevant when talking about the new movies to base any analysis about that fact which makes a clear distinction between the Lucas/independant era and the Disney/corporation era of the Saga. It’s so clear at every single level (good or bad, to each is own point of view on that) that I don’t want to stay blind about that and pretend we can talk about Solo or else the same way we were talking about Ep I to VI. SW was a Saga. It’s now a Franchise. You can love it, that’s fine. But you can’t pretend it’s not true and saying Disney has nothing to do with that.

And now we’re no longer talking about retcons…

and you somehow managed to miss this part of my last post when quoting it:-

oojason said:

MalàStrana said:

snooker said:

Retcons are the devil to you, ain’t they?

I didn’t like them when Lucas was making the PT. I don’t like them when Disney is ruining what’s left to ruin in this Saga.

Please keep comments in here to the Solo film - this is the ‘Solo: A Star Wars Story — Official Review and Opinions Thread’ afterall - and not the ‘bash Disney’ thread. Thank you.

If you’d like to continue a wider conversation on the franchise (and how it compares to Marvel etc) that’s fine, though it won’t be done in here - the ‘Solo: A Star Wars Story — Official Review and Opinions Thread’. So find a relevant thread to do that - or feel free to PM me to carry the conversation on.

Where can I find sources of information on the many alterations made to the Original Trilogy films over the years?

Complete Comparison of Special Edition Visual Changes - OT•com thread by doubleofive - with many sources of information…

 
Star Wars Visual Comparisons - website by doubleofive

Star Wars Special Edition Visual Comparisons - twitter page by doubleofive

Disney+ Should Offer the Star Wars Original Cuts article on the Wired website by doubleofive | #ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy | #ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy | OT.com thread on doubleofive’s article | What We Want And How To Make It - a sequel article.
 

A Visual Guide to Changes, Fixes & Tweaks in the 2019 SE Version - article by doubleofive on The Digital Bits | SW | ESB | ROTJ

Star Wars Special Edition Visual Comparisons - blog by doubleofive; with 2011 SE Changes image gallery | SW | ESB | ROTJ

StarWars•com Official 2004 Changes Preservation | SW | ESB | ROTJ - compiled by doubleofive

StarWars•com Official 1997 Changes Articles | SW: SE | ESB: SE | ROTJ: SE - via the Internet Archive’s WayBack Machine website
 

Star Wars Changes (Original Trilogy) - YouTube Videos, by 13las | SW | ESB | ROTJ | Disney+ | The Prequels

All Changes Made To Star Wars (Original Trilogy) - YouTube Videos, by Marcelo Zuniga | SW - Part 1 | SW - Part 2 | ESB | ROTJ

Star Wars Changes (Original Trilogy) - YouTube Videos, by HelloGreedo | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | Changes Playlist
 

A helpful overview of the changes to the OT - and surrounding issues - from zombie84’s SaveStarWars•com’s FAQ Page

Special Edition Changes - 2010 article on the changes made for the 2004 DVD release - from zombie84’s SaveStarWars•com

Shot List Spreadsheet - v0.6.05 - 6 films - Multiple SW Audio Mix Changes Added - OT•com thread, by none.

DVDActive•com’s Star Wars - The Changes articles (via the Internet Acrhive’s WayBack Machine) | SW | ESB | ROTJ | The Prequels

The Big List of Changes to the SW films OT•com thread on the FromScriptToDVD site’s comparison articles - by Gregatron
 

Who Shot First? The Complete List Of Star Wars Changes - an Empire film magazine article

Wookieepedia’s List of changes in Star Wars re-releases page

List of changes in Star Wars re-releases - from the IPFS•io website

Star Wars Comparisons YouTube video channel for comparing theatrical cuts to official releases and various fan projects.

and also reading through these superb OT•com threads (by doubleofive):-

as well as these Index Threads - which link to many topics of discussion here on the OT•com regarding the changes made to the Original Trilogy films:-

These ‘info threads’ featuring articles and discussion threads on the Original Trilogy may also be of interest…
 

MalàStrana said:

snooker said:

Retcons are the devil to you, ain’t they?

I didn’t like them when Lucas was making the PT. I don’t like them when Disney is ruining what’s left to ruin in this Saga.

That’s a false equivalency at best; you may not have liked them when Lucas was writing the prequels - and you may not like them with the current writers, but it’s got nowt to do with Disney, so stop with the unsubstantiated claims - it also cheapens your viewpoint and those that may share your views on the retcons.
 

Please keep comments in here to the Solo film - this is the ‘Solo: A Star Wars Story — Official Review and Opinions Thread’ afterall - and not the ‘bash Disney’ thread. Thank you.

‘Irish abortion referendum: Exit polls suggest landslide for repeal’…

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-44241521

&

‘Irish abortion referendum: Save the 8th campaign concedes defeat – live’…

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2018/may/26/irish-abortion-referendum-result-count-begins-live

^ I love that! Well in mate.

You are always welcome to PM a mod and ask - or ask in this thread:-

Why was this user banned? thread

or look through the following thread to see if the mods have already mentioned as to whether a ban is permanent or not:-

Banned members

It is an intriguing idea to possibly have a ‘temp-ban’ and a ‘perma-ban’ icon…

Wolfman said:

There was a scene in the Falcon where L3-37 has a bit of malfunction and hits herself on the side of the head to start up again. As her data is now in and part of the falcon, could this now be seen later in The Empire Strikes Back when Han hits the wall of the cockpit to re-start the Falcon up?
Just a thought.

If so, then that’s a quality catch 😃

Really well done, that 😃

Quality work and execution…

paja said:

I wonder if Maul was voice ether by Sam Witwer or Peter Serafinowicz.

Not sure mate, though this was kind of intriguing/cool…

https://twitter.com/serafinowicz/status/994822880650321920

Wow - nice going SkyderHouseMafia!

I wish you well with it - should be quite an exhaustive task, especially with more planned Star Wars releases too 😃

Congrats, Frank your Majesty 😃

krlozdac said:

This is the most uninteresting SW film by FAR. There was a good amount of unfunny/badly delivered lines that I felt if stripped could streamline the narrative and strenghten the characters.

The first act was very clunky. Things started happening to Han before the movie gave us a chance to care. Same with many other characters.

Han was too goofy at times. Lando felt completely off. I felt they made him somewhat unlikable and had way too much fun at his expense. Beckett was just Woody Harrelson and the twist with him at the end is the most predictable twist in the history of twists. The worst part about that is how the music played dramatically when he entered the room to reveal HE was the traitor. No shit!

As opposed to other Star Wars edits I don’t really see people cutting whole scenes out because the pace is so fast already. I think people will just end up cutting out lines and bad performance and we’ll just basically have polished versions of this movie. But beyond that, unless they release a lot of deleted scenes (which Ik they won’t) I’m not sure how this film can be aided by fan’s scissors.

Mate, this isn’t the ‘Solo review and opinion’ thread.

If you found the film uninteresting then say so - and maybe suggest some ideas for making it more interesting; highlighting and correcting those issues you have.

If you found some of the first act clunky, explain why - and maybe suggest or ask for a few thoughts on how to tighten it up.

And so on…

Just a reminder - no spoilers for the Solo film in here - thank you.

The last two and a half pages demonstrates how not to debate this topic.

Please heed Anchorhead’s post above.

The thread is now unlocked. Do not continue the aforementioned ‘debate’ - thank you.

We start afresh…

And also, a reminder about this thread in general:-
 
This is just a ranking thread - it means little at the end of the day; some films are liked more than others, for what could be considered the ‘strangest’ or personal of reasons - and we know from posting on here we each have our quirks, eccentricities and somewhat different views. And opinions, even previously staunch ones, may change over time…

Some people may only actually give a stuff about 5/6 films and just include others for the sake of being completionist. Some may not be able recall their own preferred ranking of the films the day after…

This all really isn’t worth getting worked up over - please stop with the circular and repetitive arguments that your opinion is right and someone else’s is wrong, or that someone should rank film X over film Y. It’s tiresome and come a point where members are reluctant to post in here for getting ridiculed or told they are ‘wrong’.

By all means ask why someone feels why film X is over film Y - yet do it with some respect and civility - we may even learn something…

Some people love their first ever car (which may be a piece of shite to many others), some have a special place for their first crush or love (NOT still being kept in a dungeon), or the first hi-fi they saved up for with pocket money or from their 1st wage etc. You don’t ridicule them for it - so please don’t have a pop at someone for liking The Holiday Special over Empire etc…

There is now a ‘Solo: A Star Wars Story — Official Review and Opinions Thread — SPOILERS’ thread - pinned at the top of the ‘General Star Wars Discussion’ section - if people would like to post their reviews and opinions there.

adywan said:

Not been active on the net lately to avoid spoilers for Solo

Hope you enjoy it mate.

It’s too late for

^ from https://twitter.com/bryaneward/status/999408027928326144

What on earth?

Thread is temp-locked. It’ll be re-opened soon (it is now unlocked).

Some posts have been deleted - others will likely follow too.

Do not carry on the conversation in here elsewhere on the site - thank you.

Really enjoyed watching that - very 80’s.

Good luck with the project too 😃

Jock’s got a vote in Parochia
Ten long years and he’s still got her
Paying tax and and doing stir
Worry about it later.
And the wind blows hot and the wind blows cold
But it blows us good so we’ve been told
Music’s food 'til the art-biz folds
Let them all eat culture.

Chorus:
The past is steeped in shame,
But tomorrow’s fair game,
For a life that’s fit for living
Good morning Britain.

Twenty years and a loaded gun
Funerals, fear and the war ain’t won
Paddy’s just a figure of fun
It lightens up the danger.
And a corporal sneers at a catholic boy
And he eyes his gun like a rich man’s toy
He’s killing more than celtic joy
Death is not a stranger.

Taffy’s time’s gonna come one day
It’s a loud sweet voice and it won’t give way
A house is not a holiday
Your sons are leaving home Neil.
In the hills and the valleys and far away
You can hear the song of democracy
The echo of eternity
With a Rak-a-Rak-a feel.

Chorus

From the Tyne to where to the Thames does flow
My English brothers and sisters know
It’s not a case of where you go
It’s race and creed and colour.
From the police cell to the deep dark grave
On the underground’s just a stop away
Don’t be too black, don’t be too gay
Just get a little duller.

But in this green and pleasant land,
Where I make my home, I make my stand
Make it cool just to be a man,
A uniform’s a traitor.
Love is international
And if you stand or if you fall,
Just let them know you gave your all,
Worry about it later.
 

^ Aztec Camera (with Mick Jones) - Good Morning Britain

A song very much of the 80’s in the UK - though sadly some still applies to life here today, the fight goes on.

released version - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_QSMTtUQYY
slow piano version - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4gc8BaBC3E
 

‘Honest Trailers - Star Wars Spinoffs (Holiday Special & More!)’…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFQ8hsZsDkA

ChainsawAsh said:

Hey, “Paint it Black” again in tonight’s episode! A slightly different version, too.

😃 Very nicely done, it was.

SPOILERS for S2xE05…

Shogun World looks fantastic, and well explained by Sizemore 😉 - yet how do they control the danger of bows and arrows swords and pikes etc for when the Park is running ‘normally’ for the Guests?

^ a shame that, was looking forward to seeing them on screen - though like Colin Cantwell says, hope it is in a ‘Directors Cut’ or deleted scenes etc