oojason

darth_ender said:

oojason said:

Thank you all - I always knew my love for Kelly’s Heroes or people throwing pointed metal objects at my name would get me into trouble one day… 😃

(darth_ender - I should have stuck to chess! Though I hope we can another game when I’ve fully recovered from our last one 😉)

Or maybe we’ll never play again because…you’ve been traded for a pod! Now the mods have you and you’re one of them!

‘Nooooooo!!!’

I got to get back to my wine, cheese, catching some rays, doing some dog imitations…

For the quality, accuracy and help ensure the smooth running of this occasionally polarising thread, it is asked that posters please adopt a ‘read, think, breathe, and then reply’ policy to posts they may find strong disagreement with.

Posting inflammatory picture-only responses - or inflammatory pictures without explanation or context is not cool.

Everybody be cool - it may well help you get your point across and be better received.
 

Thank you.

Warbler said:

oojason said:

Warbler said:

oojason said:

Warbler said:

oojason said:

Warbler said:

oojason said:

Warbler said:

Jeebus said:

Warbler said:

DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

We have truly reached a low point in our society.

Yes, I agree - the president has publicly called citizens peacefully protesting “sons of bitches.” Despicable.

Citizens peacefully protesting:

Would it be wrong for the President to call them “sons of bitches”?

The only comparison you could make that’s more absurd would be to bring up actual Nazis.

“Hey, Nazis were upset with the state of Germany, these football players are upset with the state of America… you think that’s a coincidence?”

I don’t know why you would bring up the Nazis here. They were definitely not peacefully protesters.

To be honest Warbler, some may be struggling as to why you brought up the Westboro Baptists into this right now - unless you are trying to equate the protests of Westboro Baptists to the protests that occurred today?

I guess you missed this:

Warbler said:

I was simply trying to show that some peaceful protests are bad. I think we agree that I picked a good example of a bad peaceful protest.

I have every right to be of the opinion that the peaceful protest of the National Anthem is a bad peaceful protest(but nowhere near as bad as what the Westboro Baptists did).

No mate, I didn’t miss you bringing up the Westboro Baptists into this, nor what you later wrote at all.

Well then you should know why I mentioned them and that I don’t consider the anthem protesters anywhere near as bad as the Westboro Baptists.

You wrote ‘Citizens peacefully protesting:’ followed by a picture of the Westboro Baptist Church, yes?

yes, after someone complained about the President insulting “peacefully protesting Citizens”

Only 4 posts later did you give an explanation on why you posted it

Yes, 4 posts late, but I did give an explanation.

• stating the Westboro Baptist Church and the players kneeling during the anthem are bad peaceful protests, (the players protests were ‘…nowhere near as bad as what the Westboro Baptists did’ protest).

Yes, that is what I said.

Here is the big difference - the Westboro Baptist Church image isn’t from a ‘peaceful protest’ at all - it is designed to enrage, provoke and give their horrible ‘beliefs’ as much publicity as it can undeservedly get.

um, yes it was a peaceful protest. They committed no acts of violence. Yes, it was designed to enrage and provoke, but it still falls under the definition of peaceful protest.

The players kneeling peaceful protest is to bring attention to a cause many in your country feel is right, and needs looking at and addressing.

by protesting the Nation Anthem and thereby enrage and provoke.

Now, if you disagree with that twitter message by Orli Matlow that was posted earlier… by all means you say why - but DON’T post an inflammatory picture in response.

What are talking about? What twitter message? Who is Orli Matlow?

In any event, here is the reason I brought them up:

Someone had complained about the President calling peacefully protesting citizens “sons of bitches”. Apparently, is wrong for the President to describe peacefully protesting citizens as “sons of bitches”. So, I brought up and example of peacefully protesting citizens that no one would have any problem with the President referring to them as “sons of bitches”. I did it to show that whether you think it is wrong to describe peacefully protesting citizens that way depends upon you opinion of the protest. I also did it to clearly demonstrate that just because a protest is peaceful, doesn’t mean it is a good protest.

If you’re going to post a picture of the Westboro Baptist Church DON’T make 4 further posts before you give an explanation as to why you are posting that inflammatory picture.

oh go sit on a tack. 4 posts down or not, I made clear why I posted the pic, and you continue to ignore what I said and continue to ignore that I clearly said the Anthem protesters are not anywhere near as bad as the West Boro Baptists. You also ignore in post where I posted the pic, I also said this right under it:

Would it be wrong for the President to call them “sons of bitches”?

It should be obvious from that what I think of the West Boro Baptists.

And if you posting ‘I’m done caring what anyone here thinks’ in the midst of that - is actually what you think - then I would suggest you step away from the computer for a few minutes, and think how that may come across to the other users in this thread.

Now, I don’t think I’ve missed anything, have I?

Well excuse me for being piss off at what is going on in my country right and what is going on in this thread. Apparently it is no longer go enough that I agree that the protesters have every right to do what they are doing, I must now do what I consider betraying my Country, and agree with what they are doing or I am a clueless dumb narrow minded idiot and probably a bigot. Well sorry but this pisses me off. What was once a moment set aside for reflection and honoring the Country and what it stands for has now turned into a time for political statements. Now instead of instead of removing our hats and giving the proper salute and standing at attention and remaining silent, we now have to look around and see who is protesting. It pisses me off, it angers me, it frustrates me, it offends me, and en-fucking-rages me.

You wrote ‘What are talking about? What twitter message? Who is Orli Matlow?’ - http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1110744 - you did read the twitter message that was posted before you replied to it with that ‘bullshit flag’ picture response?

Actually I posted the bullshit flag in reference to part of what Frink said below the link:

TV’s Frink said:

NFL players aren’t protesting the anthem,
 

If you are pissed off then you can help yourself by start explaining yourself better in this thread - no more inflammatory picture replies - and no more pics of inflammatory groups like the Westboro Baptist Church without you putting in some written context in the same post.

Okay?

That would be a waste of time, no one would listen.

What Frink posted was actually part of the text from that twitter link - which is neither here or there - as you still responded with an inflammatory picture only reply. It would seem that you may not be the one listening in this instance.

If you think explaining yourself better is a ‘waste of time’ and ‘no one would listen’ and you can carry on posting inflammatory pictures in this thread then you are mistaken.

Warbler - I’m sorry mate, but have a couple of days off.
 

This also goes out to anyone else who may think posting inflammatory pictures without context - or a need to give an explanation in the same post.

suspiciouscoffee said:

Iirc, it’s $6 a month with commercials, and $10 without. Other channels don’t have paywalls quite like this, it’s just the streaming companies like Netflix and Hulu. ABC, for example, has a streaming site that’s free so long as you already have standard TV service. Anyway, it’d probably end up being a lot cheaper to wait for it’s eventual Blu-Ray or DVD release (which I assume will happen at some point, right?) than to pay $10 every month until the season ends.

Gotcha - and thank you for the reply 😃

Warbler said:

oojason said:

Warbler said:

oojason said:

Warbler said:

oojason said:

Warbler said:

Jeebus said:

Warbler said:

DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

We have truly reached a low point in our society.

Yes, I agree - the president has publicly called citizens peacefully protesting “sons of bitches.” Despicable.

Citizens peacefully protesting:

Would it be wrong for the President to call them “sons of bitches”?

The only comparison you could make that’s more absurd would be to bring up actual Nazis.

“Hey, Nazis were upset with the state of Germany, these football players are upset with the state of America… you think that’s a coincidence?”

I don’t know why you would bring up the Nazis here. They were definitely not peacefully protesters.

To be honest Warbler, some may be struggling as to why you brought up the Westboro Baptists into this right now - unless you are trying to equate the protests of Westboro Baptists to the protests that occurred today?

I guess you missed this:

Warbler said:

I was simply trying to show that some peaceful protests are bad. I think we agree that I picked a good example of a bad peaceful protest.

I have every right to be of the opinion that the peaceful protest of the National Anthem is a bad peaceful protest(but nowhere near as bad as what the Westboro Baptists did).

No mate, I didn’t miss you bringing up the Westboro Baptists into this, nor what you later wrote at all.

Well then you should know why I mentioned them and that I don’t consider the anthem protesters anywhere near as bad as the Westboro Baptists.

You wrote ‘Citizens peacefully protesting:’ followed by a picture of the Westboro Baptist Church, yes?

yes, after someone complained about the President insulting “peacefully protesting Citizens”

Only 4 posts later did you give an explanation on why you posted it

Yes, 4 posts late, but I did give an explanation.

• stating the Westboro Baptist Church and the players kneeling during the anthem are bad peaceful protests, (the players protests were ‘…nowhere near as bad as what the Westboro Baptists did’ protest).

Yes, that is what I said.

Here is the big difference - the Westboro Baptist Church image isn’t from a ‘peaceful protest’ at all - it is designed to enrage, provoke and give their horrible ‘beliefs’ as much publicity as it can undeservedly get.

um, yes it was a peaceful protest. They committed no acts of violence. Yes, it was designed to enrage and provoke, but it still falls under the definition of peaceful protest.

The players kneeling peaceful protest is to bring attention to a cause many in your country feel is right, and needs looking at and addressing.

by protesting the Nation Anthem and thereby enrage and provoke.

Now, if you disagree with that twitter message by Orli Matlow that was posted earlier… by all means you say why - but DON’T post an inflammatory picture in response.

What are talking about? What twitter message? Who is Orli Matlow?

In any event, here is the reason I brought them up:

Someone had complained about the President calling peacefully protesting citizens “sons of bitches”. Apparently, is wrong for the President to describe peacefully protesting citizens as “sons of bitches”. So, I brought up and example of peacefully protesting citizens that no one would have any problem with the President referring to them as “sons of bitches”. I did it to show that whether you think it is wrong to describe peacefully protesting citizens that way depends upon you opinion of the protest. I also did it to clearly demonstrate that just because a protest is peaceful, doesn’t mean it is a good protest.

If you’re going to post a picture of the Westboro Baptist Church DON’T make 4 further posts before you give an explanation as to why you are posting that inflammatory picture.

oh go sit on a tack. 4 posts down or not, I made clear why I posted the pic, and you continue to ignore what I said and continue to ignore that I clearly said the Anthem protesters are not anywhere near as bad as the West Boro Baptists. You also ignore in post where I posted the pic, I also said this right under it:

Would it be wrong for the President to call them “sons of bitches”?

It should be obvious from that what I think of the West Boro Baptists.

And if you posting ‘I’m done caring what anyone here thinks’ in the midst of that - is actually what you think - then I would suggest you step away from the computer for a few minutes, and think how that may come across to the other users in this thread.

Now, I don’t think I’ve missed anything, have I?

Well excuse me for being piss off at what is going on in my country right and what is going on in this thread. Apparently it is no longer go enough that I agree that the protesters have every right to do what they are doing, I must now do what I consider betraying my Country, and agree with what they are doing or I am a clueless dumb narrow minded idiot and probably a bigot. Well sorry but this pisses me off. What was once a moment set aside for reflection and honoring the Country and what it stands for has now turned into a time for political statements. Now instead of instead of removing our hats and giving the proper salute and standing at attention and remaining silent, we now have to look around and see who is protesting. It pisses me off, it angers me, it frustrates me, it offends me, and en-fucking-rages me.

You wrote ‘What are talking about? What twitter message? Who is Orli Matlow?’ - http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1110744 - you did read the twitter message that was posted before you replied to it with that ‘bullshit flag’ picture response?

If you are pissed off then you can help yourself by start explaining yourself better in this thread - no more inflammatory picture replies - and no more pics of inflammatory groups like the Westboro Baptist Church without you putting in some written context in the same post.

Okay?

suspiciouscoffee said:

Saw the episode. I liked it, but not enough to subscribe to CBS’ paywall. My parents seemed to like it enough to want to pirate future episodes though, so we’ll see how this goes.

Out of interest how much is CBS’ paywall? And is it generally considered good ‘value for money’ in comparison to other channels’ paywalls?

TV’s Frink said:

Last protest of the night.

Out of curiosity, were there sections of the supporters at the games today also not standing for the anthem too?

(if shown on tv cameras? I imagine the focus would be on the players?)

yhwx said:

DominicCobb said:

Guys who made it were clearly under pressure.

Dominic.

Dominic? He’s a star, man.

Warbler said:

oojason said:

Warbler said:

oojason said:

Warbler said:

Jeebus said:

Warbler said:

DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

We have truly reached a low point in our society.

Yes, I agree - the president has publicly called citizens peacefully protesting “sons of bitches.” Despicable.

Citizens peacefully protesting:

Would it be wrong for the President to call them “sons of bitches”?

The only comparison you could make that’s more absurd would be to bring up actual Nazis.

“Hey, Nazis were upset with the state of Germany, these football players are upset with the state of America… you think that’s a coincidence?”

I don’t know why you would bring up the Nazis here. They were definitely not peacefully protesters.

To be honest Warbler, some may be struggling as to why you brought up the Westboro Baptists into this right now - unless you are trying to equate the protests of Westboro Baptists to the protests that occurred today?

I guess you missed this:

Warbler said:

I was simply trying to show that some peaceful protests are bad. I think we agree that I picked a good example of a bad peaceful protest.

I have every right to be of the opinion that the peaceful protest of the National Anthem is a bad peaceful protest(but nowhere near as bad as what the Westboro Baptists did).

No mate, I didn’t miss you bringing up the Westboro Baptists into this, nor what you later wrote at all.

Well then you should know why I mentioned them and that I don’t consider the anthem protesters anywhere near as bad as the Westboro Baptists.

You wrote ‘Citizens peacefully protesting:’ followed by a picture of the Westboro Baptist Church, yes?

Only 4 posts later did you give an explanation on why you posted it - stating the Westboro Baptist Church and the players kneeling during the anthem are bad peaceful protests, (the players protests were ‘…nowhere near as bad as what the Westboro Baptists did’ protest).

Here is the big difference - the Westboro Baptist Church image isn’t from a ‘peaceful protest’ at all - it is designed to enrage, provoke and give their horrible ‘beliefs’ as much publicity as it can undeservedly get. The players kneeling peaceful protest is to bring attention to a cause many in your country feel is right, and needs looking at and addressing.

Now, if you disagree with that twitter message by Orli Matlow that was posted earlier… by all means you say why - but DON’T post an inflammatory picture in response.

If you’re going to post a picture of the Westboro Baptist Church DON’T make 4 further posts before you give an explanation as to why you are posting that inflammatory picture.

And if you posting ‘I’m done caring what anyone here thinks’ in the midst of that - is actually what you think - then I would suggest you step away from the computer for a few minutes, and think how that may come across to the other users in this thread.

Now, I don’t think I’ve missed anything, have I?

SilverWook said:

A Starfleet Medical series might be interesting. Or a prequel with Dr. McCoy practicing some frontier medicine?
We saw on TNG there are medical ships.

It’d certainly make for some interesting ideas in potential conflicts between the Prime Directive and medical ethics for those in Starfleet - and with whom they come into contact with.

Also be good to see a different side/focus of the Federation than what we have seen already…

(and maybe even find out what happened to Khan’s super blood - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTc1i74p1_c 😉)

Warbler said:

oojason said:

Warbler said:

Jeebus said:

Warbler said:

DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

We have truly reached a low point in our society.

Yes, I agree - the president has publicly called citizens peacefully protesting “sons of bitches.” Despicable.

Citizens peacefully protesting:

Would it be wrong for the President to call them “sons of bitches”?

The only comparison you could make that’s more absurd would be to bring up actual Nazis.

“Hey, Nazis were upset with the state of Germany, these football players are upset with the state of America… you think that’s a coincidence?”

I don’t know why you would bring up the Nazis here. They were definitely not peacefully protesters.

To be honest Warbler, some may be struggling as to why you brought up the Westboro Baptists into this right now - unless you are trying to equate the protests of Westboro Baptists to the protests that occurred today?

I guess you missed this:

Warbler said:

I was simply trying to show that some peaceful protests are bad. I think we agree that I picked a good example of a bad peaceful protest.

I have every right to be of the opinion that the peaceful protest of the National Anthem is a bad peaceful protest(but nowhere near as bad as what the Westboro Baptists did).

No mate, I didn’t miss you bringing up the Westboro Baptists into this, nor what you later wrote at all.

suspiciouscoffee said:

^Yeah I saw that on Twitter earlier today. I appreciate the attempt at a different style intro, but it did nothing for me other than make me miss all the starfields from previous intros.

Aye, I thought it quite clever on the technical aspect of it - but it had no emotion or connection for me, and had the same old riff on the music too… I know it’s only opening titles but was a little underwhelmed.

Let’s hope the actual program is better 😃

That cover is quite the space oddity…

The main title sequence for ‘Star Trek: Discovery’ is up on here for anyone interested:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9E2olGqUlU

SilverWook said:

With all the real disasters and potential war in the news, it’s probably why the latest crackpot with a doomsday prediction didn’t get much coverage.

I find it quite funny that people who say the world is going to end on an ancient doomsday prediction… always use their own local time 😃

Warbler said:

Jeebus said:

Warbler said:

DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

We have truly reached a low point in our society.

Yes, I agree - the president has publicly called citizens peacefully protesting “sons of bitches.” Despicable.

Citizens peacefully protesting:

Would it be wrong for the President to call them “sons of bitches”?

The only comparison you could make that’s more absurd would be to bring up actual Nazis.

“Hey, Nazis were upset with the state of Germany, these football players are upset with the state of America… you think that’s a coincidence?”

I don’t know why you would bring up the Nazis here. They were definitely not peacefully protesters.

To be honest Warbler, some may be struggling as to why you brought up the Westboro Baptists into this right now - unless you are trying to equate the protests of Westboro Baptists to the protests that occurred today?

And it seems obvious the Nazis were brought into this conversation as an ironic statement, yes?

That yellow ‘bullshit’ flag you posted - on it’s own with no comment - could be considered quite inflammatory - and I’m also aware there may be those looking to push your buttons too.

So, everybody play nice - let us all not go over old familiar ground yet again, and let’s stick to what has occurred today, or other political events taking place.

Now, Puggo has made a decent point here…

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

I notice that in some cases, players kneeling still remove their hat and/or hold their hand over their heart. Still nobody has been able to explain how kneeling is a sign of disrespect.

For me, kneeling in this manner honours both the anthem and what it symbolises - yet is still an effective form of protest.

On a slightly different tangent I would say this criticism of NFL players protesting is quite a classic case of Trump deflecting away from the purpose of the protests - the causes of them, his inaction and and unwillingness to engage on the matter at hand…

I wonder why that is, and seems to be the case on a lot of political points during his term as President thus far?

DigMod said:

NeverarGreat said:

Minor note: It might be helpful if the thread title was changed to ‘TFA: Heir to the Force (Released)’.

That would be nice. Would an admin or mod be able to make this change? I’m not sure who to ask here.

You should be able to do this by clicking on the ‘Edit’ button on your first post - and you’ll see a ‘Topic Title’ box that you can then edit.

If not, let me know what you’d like to rename the thread and I’ll do it for you mate.

an oldie, yet still good…

TV’s Frink said:

oojason said:

TV’s Frink said:

Trump has opened a Pandora’s box.

I take it there are more games today / soon that may feature other players from teams also taking a similar stance? (no pun intended)

Yeah, that London game started a few hours ahead of the normal first wave of games here.

The Steelers all stayed in the locker room, which is an even more powerful statement because (I think) they can be fined by the league for this.

Thanks for that (my knowledge of US sports is somewhat lacking).

I’ve since found a useful site with continuing updates (so far) from The AP:-

http://pro32.ap.org/article/latest-nfl-air-unity-ad-response-trump

and this from the BBC - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/american-football/41380275

TV’s Frink said:

Trump has opened a Pandora’s box.

I take it there are more games today / soon that may feature other players from teams also taking a similar stance? (no pun intended)

If so, is there anything else going on with Trump - or around him - that he is trying to deflect attention from at this time?

Hi Marcopolo and welcome to the site.

Take a look around the differing sections of the site and you’ll soon find what you may well be seeking, and hopefully more related Star Wars stuff of interest too - all for free (with certain conditions)…

Thank you all - I always knew my love for Kelly’s Heroes or people throwing pointed metal objects at my name would get me into trouble one day… 😃

(darth_ender - I should have stuck to chess! Though I hope we can another game when I’ve fully recovered from our last one 😉)

DuracellEnergizer said:

Red Dawrf

That was my idea for a whole host low budget rip-offs tasteful homages for a lot of popular shows 😉

(stupid keyboard / brain)

yhwx said:

Jasonian Overlord

I promise to treat my subjects well (at first)… 😉

Thank you SilverWook.

I’d just like to say it’s both an honour (note the correct spelling there, my American friends 😉) and a privilege to be just a small part of the ot.com - and hope to be of assistance in the continuing smooth running of this bastion for all things Star Wars.

ps - these moderator uniforms are a little scratchy - though I love the hats 😃