Looking forward to seeing these even V2.C further improved versions (especially how good V1 was) - am downloading them now.
Thanks nightstalkerpoet - this is some quality work you’re achieving here. 👍
‘The Force Ghost in The Machine’, an article by Ian Kintzle, explains all (April 2025, for Star Wars Celebration Japan)…
https://fxrant.blogspot.com/2025/04/the-movie-mistake-mystery-from-revenge.html
What exactly is the point of trying to catalog every single movie mistake in this trilogy?
This isn’t a ‘movie mistake’ thread at all - as mentioned previously in the thread…
The above 15 topics for each of the 3 PT films are my own personal take on some of the many scenes that stood out to me. It is be no means a ‘definitive list’ or even a ‘comprehensive list’ of substandard / noticeably poor CGI issues in the Prequels…
Everyone’s mileage may very much vary on just what constitutes poorly executed/affected CGI in the Prequel Trilogy films.
Please add your own problematic / poor CGI scenes / irksome CGI issues / any scenes I’ve overlooked… in the thread, below…
Especially when it’s not like it’s unknown that the prequel trilogy has them. This isn’t some repository of evidence proving a point. It feels like those 12+ hour long youtube videos nitpicking every single movie mistake and plot hole in the sequel trilogy, which people rightly called stupid. It doesn’t actually give you any deeper insight into these movies, and the movies you did like are full of them too.
To you it feels like that (I wouldn’t know - I tend to avoid the type of 12+ hour videos you refer to) - to others it may feel different - probably more so to the other members who’ve come up with their own ‘CGI-issue’ additions on here - or those who simply enjoy or like this type of thing.
As stated before in the OP of the thread (as well as other reasons given as to why I started the thread)…
There used to be a great image thread from back in the day on here re PT CGI issues - though I can’t find it anymore - plus many of the image links have very likely broken over time (photobucket and other older defunct image sites) - hence this new ‘centralised’ thread.
If you have an issue with it feel free to simply skip the thread - there are many threads on here covering a wide array of topics. This is merely but another. Each to their own and all that. 👍
All credit and kudos to JoyOfEditing for noticing this in AOTC…
and JoyOfEditing’s quickly fixed shot for the CGI snafu…
Yet more credit and kudos to Phase3 again for noticing this in TPM…
All credit and kudos to Phase3 again for noticing this in TPM…
All credit and kudos to Phase3 for noticing this in TPM…
0️⃣ • Introduction
1️⃣ • The Phantom Menace
2️⃣ • Attack Of The Clones
3️⃣ • Revenge Of The Sith
4️⃣ • Your own irksome / noticeable / poorly executed CGI scenes & CGI-affected scenes from the Prequels…
The above 15 topics for each of the 3 PT films are my own personal take on some of the many scenes that stood out to me. It is be no means a ‘definitive list’ or even a ‘comprehensive list’ of substandard / noticeably poor CGI issues in the Prequels…
Everyone’s mileage may very much vary on just what constitutes poorly executed/affected CGI in the Prequel Trilogy films.
Please add your own problematic / poor CGI scenes / irksome CGI issues / any scenes I’ve overlooked… in the thread, below…
I would have liked to see more of Obi-Wan and Anakin’s relationship to get an insight into what Ben said in Star Wars to Luke in conversation. I don’t like how it’s just Obi-Wan is a liar. But now that is my accepted belief with A certain point of view.
I understand he built up the idea of the Jedi as guardians of the peace and great warriors to get a young man like Luke interested. He wasn’t exactly going to say your father was a butcher, who used this very lightsaber to slaughter younglings. Please come with me to Aldaraan, by the way the girl in the image projected by Artoo is your sister.
Darth Vader the right hand of the Emperor and fascist overlord is your father. Murderous psychopath and half robot because I sliced and diced him and he fell into lava.
Your father was not a good pilot, he accidentally destroyed the trade federation ship when he was 9 years old. He was always whining and never followed my lead. The older Anakin got, the more insistent he was on breaking the rules, and we Jedi built him up as the chosen one so he could do no wrong. We denied him love and companionship because it is attachment. took him from the only family and mother he ever knew. and told him not to fall in love with a woman, driving him to betray our order.
Yeah, all valid points mate. Especially disappointing for me was the portrayal of the Obi-Wan and Anakin relationship - or rather the lack of it - amongst the countless other discrepancy-type issues. I think even the lift scene in AOTC (with the awkward ‘tell - don’t show’ dialogue) between the two was a last-minute addition / re-shoot / pickup?
The hype for the both trilogies is also another factor - both had some serious hype and marketing… though the TPM has some serious over-exposure when it came to marketing the films - it would have been difficult for even a decent film to be accepted given the wall-to-wall hype and coverage at the time. I think they rolled it back for AOTC somewhat - yet by then many people were thinking would that be the film ‘to put things right’? Was TPM was just a blip? Surely AOTC would be far better? Oh dear…
From back in October 2025 (so some streaming services may have increased their prices since)…
^ from https://x.com/StatistaCharts/status/1981000840631800132
Also from back in October 2025…
Every streaming cost increase in 2025: HBO Max sets price hike across all tiers - an article from Nerdist
Federal data underscores meteoric rise of streaming subscription prices in 2025 - ARS Technica article (January 2026)
And estimates for future pricing - as of January 2025…
Right, I received a PM letting me know you’ve replied to another of my posts…
The same still applies what you were plainly told in the George Lucas’s Sequel Trilogy thread…
[Degenspear post can be seen below (by clicking on the ‘Expand’ button)]…
It’s so hilarious to me to see some people here so overly touchy about Lucas that they’re getting annoyed at outline ideas that I think do pitch distinct enough ideas comparably to Disney’s ST. It’s like a grasping of defenses for Disney’s lack of creativity to me.
From a bad-faith PT/GL fan seemingly on here to bait members and their views… that doesn’t mean much. That’s how many of your posts come across on here - I hope to be proven wrong on that; I suppose we’ll see… in the usual threads that PT/GL zealots usually post in.
Meanwhile, like others here, I’ll just be ignoring your posts and those of other PT/GL zealots… often talking at - yet not actually engaging with members here, or looking to learn differing POVs. Posting with a close mind on here, ignoring points made in posts, jumping in on others’ conversations in an insincere manner, then switching to another attempt at a ‘gotcha’… it is like a bad TFn circle-jerk; trolling, baiting, and posting in bad faith…
Life is just too short for all that.
Quite why you (and the other TFn guy with the similar posting style) then still continued on and on asking questions and attempted to performatively interact with me in the George Lucas’s Sequel Trilogy thread… is lost on me. It still applies here and for any other threads, too.
You may wish to question why others here are ignoring your posts - and rethink your baiting ‘posting style’ and comments. Or not, I guess…?
That’d be a pity if not - as you do make the occasional intriguing and insightful posts on TFn (in amongst the usual circle-jerking on there). Though it is up to you, of course. I won’t be holding my breath, either way.
If you feel I’ve been mistaken or harsh, then feel free to PM me if you wish - though meanwhile I (and likely others) will still simply be ignoring / scrolling past your posts on here.
Nothing will change.
Unfortunately, you’re probably right on that.
Though we’ll not likely see Andor-level content again.
Sequels over Prequels. For me, it isn’t even much of a contest - despite them both trilogies having numerous issues, both being underwhelming, and far removed from the qualities and feel of the OT.
I’ll take the Sequels as they are simply less boring to watch; the PT is a great engaging story on paper - yet delivered a vapid, dull, unappealing, poor-CGId, borefest… that has so many needless inconsistencies and retcons to the OT (as well as much-changed lore to what had been established in the official released material before). Plus the many soulless unlikeable characters, mind-numbing dialogue, and inane acting performances in the PT (as well as poor writing / dumbing down of characters’ agency and decisions). Ugh. Then we have the subset of PT/GL fanboys/zealots… many of whom who still can’t accept others’ negative opinions / dislike on the PT without endless punctiliousness and contrarianism, or simply being abrasive or even threatening - that’s not really going to ever help change peoples’ opinions on the PT - by coming across akin to a whinier, inane, and more pathetic version of their fave PT pin-up Anakin.
The ST; I can accept that TFA played it safe whilst trying to give the message that the ST (and maybe new era of SW live-action content?) would be more akin in tone, pacing, and ‘vibe’ to the OT than the PT - leaving the other 2 ST films to take up the slack in bringing something fresh and taking chances / moving forward with the stories. And I enjoyed TLJ for doing just that (for the most part). For me, the pacing, choreography, CGI, and acting here is superior to the PT - and for the most part… the dialogue is too (‘somehow, low bars have returned’). Then TROS dropped the ball and failed to appeal as a film in itself (the story is just a mess), failed as a climax to the ST, and also as the finale of the ‘Skywalker Saga’ as a whole. Yet for all the flaws of the ST… at least I wasn’t bored watching them like I am with the PT.
Given the choice… I wouldn’t watch either the PT or ST again. I’d opt for the ‘Andor Trilogy’ (S1, S2, and Rogue One) followed by the OT and leave it there.
That’s just my take. If you like or love the PT and/or ST - then all power to you. As Wook used to say: ‘Star Wars is a buffet, enjoy the stuff you want, and leave the rest.’
Starting this year, California is selling insulin pens at $11/pen…
Really hope more US states follow suit.
How do I even add an image to a post?
This may be of some help mate - and to any other newer members seeing this…
❕ ‘How do I do this?’ on the OriginalTrilogy.com; some info & answers + member FAQs ❕ - in General Assistance.
^ in that thread are a few helpful ‘info posts’ on how do things on here, including…
How to post an image on the OriginalTrilogy•com… (+ markdown guides)
Good luck with it. 👍
Except, how long has savestarwars.com been overrun with casino ads?
Quite a while, unfortunately.
Hwwever, none kindly archived the entire ‘Saving Star Wars’ website and re-hosted it (advert-free), here:-
http://fd.noneinc.com/savestarwarscom/savestarwars.info/index.html
none also did the same for ‘The Secret History of Star Wars’ book website:-
http://fd.noneinc.com/secrethistoryofstarwarscom/secrethistoryofstarwars.com/index.html
Behind the Scenes – Original Trilogy Droid Maker. Bill Hargreaves - Star Wars 100 Interviews
www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeLTmtV7w7U - a 2 minute video from the Star Wars 100 Interviews youtube channel.
The blurb: 'Go behind the scenes of Star Wars with William “Bill” Hargreaves, the props maker who helped bring unforgettable droids to life in The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. In this exclusive interview, Bill explains how he built—and even operated—one of his own creations on set.
Hear his firsthand accounts of working on IG‑88 and EV‑9D9, plus his confirmation that he also worked on the small tortured droid in Jabba’s palace. Bill doesn’t name it here, but the canon identification is revealed here.
This is authentic production history: shop‑floor creativity, set stories, and the hidden credits that shaped the galaxy fans know by heart.’
www.youtube.com/@StarWars100Interviews/videos - with lots more similar video for the OT - and the wider GFFA as well. 👍
I love this fellow’s channel. Strange that he has so few subscribers. His interviews are always a delight!
Absolutely, mate. Their videos are both fun and insightful to watch - with some very cool people - long may that continue. 👍
www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hbpzbf4dP0 - a 66 minute video from the SG10 Film Archive youtube channel.
The blurb: ‘Drew Stewart, otherwise known online as doubleofive is the creator and current maintainer of Star Wars Visual Comparisons, a website devoted to documenting each and every single visual change made across the various Star Wars home video releases. In preparation for my documentary series, I interviewed Drew and this was the exchange which we had. I hope you all enjoy listening as much as I enjoyed talking with Drew!’
www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hbpzbf4dP0 - a 66 minute video from the SG10 Film Archive youtube channel.
The blurb: ‘Drew Stewart, otherwise known online as doubleofive is the creator and current maintainer of Star Wars Visual Comparisons, a website devoted to documenting each and every single visual change made across the various Star Wars home video releases. In preparation for my documentary series, I interviewed Drew and this was the exchange which we had. I hope you all enjoy listening as much as I enjoyed talking with Drew!’
To me, it is very important. Honestly, besides the changes in Jabba’s palace, I support all of the changes, particularly the end. I like how the shoddy superimposition is cleaned up too.
For ESB the only change I really don’t like is the stuff with the Wampa.Really if I could I’d make my own cut but for all the times I have visited this site and been a member, I still don’t know how to get my hands on a single damn thing and it’s so friggin obtuse that it blows me away. It’s so frustrating. I end up just giving up after a time. It’s been years of coming back here with people insisting that these cuts exist and I always come up empty handed.
For many of the fan projects featured on here you simply send the author a PM politely asking for links to their project - or follow the instructions given in the opening post of their threads.
These may also be of some help…
❕ ‘How do I do this?’ on the OriginalTrilogy.com; some info & answers + member FAQs ❕ - in General Assistance
and
As the post above yours states…
For anyone searching for 1997 Special Edition reconstructions and preservations (in SD, HD, & 4K) - this may be of some help…
📍 300+ available Original Trilogy Preservations - some from a long time ago . . . . 📍 - some 15+ acquirable 1997SE projects.
^ as stated in the above linked post… you will need to have made 30 posts on this site - not including any ‘link request’ posts - to receive any project links… yet they are easily and readily available. Good luck with it. 👍
In general, simply becoming an active and participating member of the community on here means a significantly better chance of others helping you out in acquiring any fan projects you may be looking for…
Leave some feedback or reviews for projects you have previously seen. Or join in the discussions about the Original Trilogy - or the wider Galaxy Far Far Away. Or participate in the discourse here on film, tv, music, art, books & comics, gaming, tech, history, sports… or life in general etc. Read up on how some of the many fan projects on here are made / evolve / come together - or check out the talented artists’ cover artwork, and budding authors’ stories, script-writing, and re-writes.
Everyone here should just ignore you, child. Don’t you have homework to do?
I recommend taking another look at our Hard Rules, specifically number 2. You won’t be warned again.
Yawn. No shortage of VPNs and new accounts I can make lol
I feel like this should just result in a banning
It already has, mate.
https://deadline.com/2026/01/kathleen-kennedy-exit-interview-1236665253
^ Quite an insightful read. It also contains updates on the current status of a few previously announced SW projects…
DEADLINE: Let’s get to what the fans are eager to know. The progress on films and series by filmmakers who’ve committed to putting in that three to five years. Rian Johnson, James Mangold, Simon Kimberg, Taika Waititi. Where are all their projects at?
KENNEDY: I’ve got to tread a bit carefully here. Jim Mangold and Beau Willimon wrote an incredible script, but it is definitely breaking the mold and it’s on hold. Taika has turned in a script that I think is hilarious and great. It’s not just my decision, especially when I’ve got a foot out the door. Donald Glover has turned in a script. And as you have read, Steve Soderbergh and Adam Driver turned in a script written by Scott Burns. It was just great. Anything’s a possibility if somebody’s willing to take a risk.
I remember when I came into this job, the first thing Bob Iger said to me was, “Be bold.” I’ve always liked that because I think you have to be bold and you have to be willing to take risks with people and with ideas. Otherwise you are just doing the same thing. Right now we’re in an era where companies are so risk-averse, and I get it. I hear all the conversations. They’ve got Wall Street to please, and I get it, but I also believe that that’s what contributes to things disappearing, ultimately. I just think you have to take those chances.
Everything I just reeled off to you is taking a bit of a chance because none of those filmmakers are just walking in trying to do same old, same old. I’m excited by that, but the studio’s nervous about that, and that’s kind of where it sits at the moment.
Personally, I’m more interested in hearing of Kathleen Kennedy’s role in the OOT restoration as part of the 50th anniversary…
Hopefully we’ll hear more of it soon - and what a legacy that is to leave - now she has decided to retire as Lucasfilm President (at 72 years old).
As well as ensuring that Andor happened: ‘Tony Gilroy Says There’d Be No Andor Without Kathleen Kennedy’ (Gizmodo article)
Well, it is finally official (after all the wishful thinking and repeated rumours from the TFM & clickbaiters over the years)…
As Kathleen Kennedy steps down from Lucasfilm leadership to return to producing, Dave Filoni will lead the studio as President and Chief Creative Officer alongside Lynwen Brennan as Co-President.
www.starwars.com/news/lucasfilm-leadership
'Lucasfilm announced today that after 14 years of leading the studio, President Kathleen Kennedy is stepping down from her role. Kennedy will return to full-time producing, including the studio’s upcoming feature films The Mandalorian and Grogu and Star Wars: Starfighter.
Dave Filoni, who worked closely with creator George Lucas to build the Lucasfilm animation department on Star Wars: The Clone Wars and helped launch Star Wars live-action series alongside Jon Favreau on The Mandalorian, will take on creative leadership of the company as President and Chief Creative Officer and Lynwen Brennan will serve as Co-President.
Their close collaboration and more than 30 years of combined senior executive experience will carry Lucasfilm into its next chapter of storytelling, with a strong foundation of creative vision and operational leadership guiding the studio forward.
“My love of storytelling was shaped by the films of Kathleen Kennedy and George Lucas. I never dreamed I would be privileged to learn the craft of filmmaking from both of them,” said Filoni. “From Rey to Grogu, Kathy has overseen the greatest expansion in Star Wars storytelling onscreen that we have ever seen. I am incredibly grateful to Kathy, George, Bob Iger and Alan Bergman for their trust and the opportunity to lead Lucasfilm in this new role, doing a job I truly love. May the Force be with you.”
“Lucasfilm has played such a meaningful part in my life," said Brennan. "It’s a community of inspiring storytellers with a rebel spirit like no other, and I am honored to join Dave Filoni in leading us forward. I have been so fortunate to learn from George Lucas, Kathy Kennedy and Alan Bergman and have unwavering faith in Dave’s creative vision for the next chapter in this storied studio’s legacy.”
Filoni joined Lucasfilm in 2005 and has played a pivotal role in shaping the creative direction of the Star Wars universe. Working closely with George Lucas, Filoni was instrumental in establishing the company’s animation studio and has since expanded the franchise into new and compelling territory. His storytelling contributions span acclaimed series such as Star Wars: The Clone Wars, Star Wars Rebels, and The Mandalorian, earning multiple Emmy Awards and nominations. Filoni currently serves as showrunner for Ahsoka, now in production for its second season, and is teaming with Jon Favreau on the feature film The Mandalorian and Grogu, which debuts in theaters May 22, 2026.
Brennan has been with Lucasfilm since 1999, beginning her tenure at Industrial Light & Magic where she rose through the ranks to become its leader in 2009. She was appointed General Manager of Lucasfilm in 2015 and President & General Manager of Lucasfilm Business in 2024. During her tenure, she has guided the company through transformative technological shifts with a clear strategic vision and a commitment to innovation, and her industry leadership has been recognized with a Lifetime Achievement Award from the Visual Effects Society and the honor of Commander of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire.
Kennedy’s leadership legacy
Kennedy’s run as Lucasfilm president began in 2012 when Disney acquired the company.
“When we acquired Lucasfilm more than a decade ago, we knew we were bringing into the Disney family not only one of the most beloved and enduring storytelling universes ever created, but also a team of extraordinary talent led by a visionary filmmaker — someone who had been handpicked by George Lucas himself, no less,” said Bob Iger, CEO of The Walt Disney Company. “We’re deeply grateful for Kathleen Kennedy’s leadership, her vision, and her stewardship of such an iconic studio and brand.”
“Kathleen Kennedy has been a tremendous force in the industry for 50 years, and it’s been our privilege to have her here at Disney leading Lucasfilm for nearly 14 of them,” added Disney Entertainment Co-Chairman Alan Bergman. “She has steered Star Wars to incredible box office heights and brought a new generation of fans into the fold. We appreciate having her on board to produce our next couple of films, and the studio remains in extraordinarily capable hands with Dave Filoni, who’s a brilliant storyteller, and Lynwen Brennan, an avid innovator and business leader. They are deeply passionate and experienced executives who will continue to drive the studio and Star Wars forward in exciting new directions.”
“When George Lucas asked me to take over Lucasfilm upon his retirement, I couldn’t have imagined what lay ahead,” said Kennedy. “It has been a true privilege to spend more than a decade working alongside the extraordinary talent at Lucasfilm. Their creativity and dedication have been an inspiration, and I’m deeply proud of what we’ve accomplished together. I’m excited to continue developing films and television with both longtime collaborators and fresh voices who represent the future of storytelling.”
Since being named president of Lucasfilm, Kennedy has guided a new era of storytelling, expanding Star Wars and Indiana Jones while championing bold creative directions and exciting new voices. She oversaw the record-shattering release of Star Wars: The Force Awakens, the first in a new trilogy of billion-dollar Skywalker Saga films, as well as Rogue One: A Star Wars Story, which also grossed over $1 billion worldwide and led to the creation of the Emmy-winning Andor series. She also led Lucasfilm’s foray into live-action Star Wars series, including three seasons of The Mandalorian as well as Obi-Wan Kenobi, Ahsoka, and others, alongside popular animated shows such as Star Wars: The Bad Batch and Star Wars: Visions. Kennedy is currently producing the feature films The Mandalorian and Grogu and director Shawn Levy’s Star Wars: Starfighter, set for theatrical release in 2026 and 2027, respectively.
As Kennedy transitions back to producing, broadening her portfolio with new collaborations across genres and platforms, she builds on a remarkable 50-year career as one of the most accomplished producers in film history. As co-founder of Amblin Entertainment with Steven Spielberg and Frank Marshall, she helped bring to life iconic films including E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial, Jurassic Park, Back to the Future, Schindler’s List, The Sixth Sense, and Lincoln. Her 70+ films have earned 25 Academy Awards® among more than 120 nominations, along with billions at the global box office. She was honored with the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences’ coveted Irving G. Thalberg Memorial Award in 2018 and the Producers Guild of America’s Milestone Award in 2022.’
Mark Hamill apparently said in a Hollywood reporter roundtable.
“I said, ‘Aren’t we going to have a moment where all 3 of us get together to raise the roof? It’ll only take 30 seconds,’” Hamill recalled as part of The Hollywood Reporter’s latest Actor Roundtable. “And JJ said, 'Well, Mark, it’s not Luke’s story anymore.”
Aye, such a missed opportunity there. Especially as TFA is basically a love letter / riff / homage to the entire OT; for me anyway. Perhaps JJ thought having ‘the Big 3’ in a scene would likely be happen in one of the other two ST films (as his TFA didn’t feature Luke at all until the end)…
The link to THR actor roundtable video: www.hollywoodreporter.com/video/adam-sandler-dwayne-johnson-jacob-elordi-jeremy-allen-white-mark-hamill-michael-b-jordan-wagner-moura-thr-actor-roundtable
