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#1308072
Topic
Unusual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
Time

Vladius - continuing to derail the thread with off topic comments - as you have repeatedly done with your posts in here - is not on.

Nor is ignoring the moderator requests to stop doing so.

The next post from you in the same vein will see you spend some time away from here. Consider this as a final warning.
 

If you have any problems or issues - you can PM me - as you were invited to do so a couple of weeks back - and again this week.

 

Let’s get this thread back on topic please, everyone - thank you.

 

Post
#1308046
Topic
Blu-Ray and other HD box size STAR WARS covers
Time

Roobyoo said:

I don’t know if this thread here is the right place, but I think I once saw fan edit covers of these old vhs covers (Digital Remastered THX Edition) somewhere here.

https://s19.directupload.net/images/191130/yatgyojv.png

Does anyone know if these covers still float somewhere around? I searched for them for quite some time now, but couldn’t find them in a decent quality.

The 1995 ‘Executor’ VHS tin box-set covers 😃 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKIWGE_1Aic)
 

The talented FrankT knocked up a superb set of these - which can be found here:-

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Franks-Star-Wars-DVDBD-Covers/id/47698/page/1
 

and I think HotRod may have knocked up a set too - quite some time ago - so it may be worth PMing him about that.
 

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#1308035
Topic
Blu-Ray and other HD box size STAR WARS covers
Time

swingbelly said:

Love all the artwork in this thread!
I have Harmy’s Despeclialized Edition on 25GB discs.
I am looking for artwork for the Special Features and Docs discs.
I have looked through the thread and really didn’t see much.
Please point me in the right direction.

Are you looking for the ‘NJVC Custom Blu Ray set’ mate?

If so, this thread will hopefully some artwork for it:-

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Star-Wars-Despecialized-Editions-Custom-Bluray-Set/id/49995/page/1
 

These threads / posts may be of some interest too…

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Criterion-like-box-set-for-njvcs-custom-blu-ray-set/id/53517 - by stealthboy

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/OT-member-Custom-Box-Set-project-thread/id/53169 - by one69chev

https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/980073 - by njvc (by stardork, adapted from Phildesfr’s set below)

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Custom-blu-ray-setfor-the-Despecialized-Editions/id/18201 - by phildesfr

https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1077110 - by wombat_94

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Detolas-Custom-BluRay-Set-Pic-Heavy/id/52558 - by detola (German language - with a great How-To for ideas etc)
 

There may be a few more sets and choices listed in the An Index Thread (and more) for Case Covers, Disc Labels, and Fan Art… too.
 

Good luck with it mate 😃
 

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#1308033
Topic
Unusual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
Time

Vladius said:

oojason said:

Vladius said:

oojason said:

EddieDean said:

Sorry if I’ve not been up with recent discussions, but what was broken about Holdo’s hair being purple?

Nothing mate.

Though some may want to tackle it as a technical challenge / exercise (apparently it is quite a difficult, labour-intensive task to to do - and get right).

Others don’t like the Holdo character and wish to make changes to her.

An aesthetic choice - some seemingly don’t like (through to some not being able to stand) people having purple hair in their Star Wars space opera / fantasy films.

A few have problems that the purple hair meant that the Holdo character was a lesbian; an oft-mentioned comment when making racist, sexist, homophobic or other derogatory comments on other female characters in the Sequels too.

I like to think most on here doing this change for Edits see it as an aesthetic choice or a technical exercise / challenge…

I think it’s really dishonest to reduce anyone who doesn’t like The Last Jedi to a bunch of politically motivated epithets like “racist,” “sexist,” “homophobic,” etc.

I suggest you read my post again - because I am not sure how you claim to that conclusion based on what I wrote.

“A few have problems that the purple hair meant that the Holdo character was a lesbian; an oft-mentioned comment when making racist, sexist, homophobic or other derogatory comments on other female characters in the Sequels too.”

You said “a few,” but you also said, “oft-mentioned,” and I have zero trust in you or others like you to make the distinction. You’ve defended Johnson for his fan bashing several times. “Oh no, he just doesn’t like the bad ones.” That’s nonsense. It’s essentially a political divide, and I think it’s fine to acknowledge that openly.

You have a PM.

“Oh no, he just doesn’t like the bad ones.” - I’m interested in learning where you got that supposed quote from me - or simply made up?

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#1307893
Topic
Maclunkey
Time

A mini-index of dedicated OriginalTrilogy•com threads covering the subject of Han vs Greedo / Han Shoots First…

 

^ a Special Edition version of Han vs Greedo - and obviously not the original scene from the original unaltered theatrical cut.

 

Han vs Greedo (2004)

Question: Why is Greedo different? (2004)

Greedo (2004)

Yes, I bet you have! (2004)

Why do people think Han changed if/when he Greedo shot first? (2006)

An exact quote from Lucas on Greedo shooting first (2006)

Lucas wearing “Han shot first” shirt during Indy IV production (2007; and it also being on sale at the official Star Wars store)

What was your first reaction to Greedo shooting first? (2012)

Lucas is just trolling now - THR Interview (2012; with George re-iterating his disproven claim that Greedo always shot first)

Greedo: “Han shot first” (2016; says the actor who played Greedo on set…)

Maclunkey (2019; the 5th version of Han vs Greedo. Also this thread…)

Han Shoots First - Any valid reason to not have Han shoot first? (2021)

Possible ‘proof’ that Greedo was always meant to shoot (2020; more of author & SW ‘historian’ Paul Duncan’s revisionist claims)

Greedo Shot First? (2019; Lucas’ claims debunked again; frame by frame comparisons, GIF’s, the whole 9 yards) - by doubleofive

Making A SWVC YouTube Video on Han v Greedo (2020; by doubleofive)

 

^ If anyone knows of any more dedicated threads on here covering the subject of ‘Han vs Greedo / Han Shoots First’ in Star Wars please me know, or post it below, and I will add it to the above list - thank you.

👍

 

 


 

Also of note is this abridged twitter conversation between Star Wars ‘historian’ Paul Duncan (author of the two $200 official ‘Star Wars Archives’ books on the Original & Prequel Trilogies) and TyRuben Ellingson (Visual Effects Art Director at ILM for the 1997 Special Edition) stating that…
 

Paul Duncan posts…

‘George Lucas: “It was always meant that Greedo fired first. People thought we should leave that ambiguous, but I didn’t like the idea that practically the first thing Han Solo does is gun someone down in cold blood.”’

TyRuben Ellingson replies…

‘I don’t buy it. In our first meeting on the New Hope Special Edition, GWL [Lucas] walked Dennis and me through all the changes and improvements he’d been considering, and he never mentioned Greedo shooting first.’

TyRuben Ellingson continuing on…

‘In those early days, Tiemens and Hull (both of whom I brought onto the project – as well as Terry Whitlatch) worked under my supervision, and as such, I was fully aware of the totality of the changes moving through the facility.’

‘Remember also that, it was around this same time that Steven decided to remove guns from ET – and – for the first time – both men were raising kids of their own.’

To which Paul Duncan concedes…

‘It looks like George made a few changes for SW at the beginning, and then added more as time went on. Yes, I agree that raising children probably made him more sensitive to the violence.’
 

^ which is certainly at odds with his own original re-posting of the much derided and previously debunked original claim by George Lucas that:-

“It was always meant that Greedo fired first”.

To say nothing of the Visual Effects Art Director at ILM for the 1997 Special Edition not believing George’s claim either.
 

The above conversation thread in full can be seen here - https://twitter.com/TyRuben/status/1322308642209697792

 

In case it is deleted (Paul Duncan seemingly does often delete tweets where his claims or posts are disproved), a screenshot can be found here…

 

 


 

Video comparisons of all five versions (so far) of ‘Han vs Greedo’ (1977, 1997, 2004, 2011 & 2019)

 

Star Wars Greedo scene Comparison 1977-2011 - a 27 second video at the TheStarWarsTrilogy•com youtube channel.

 
 

Han/Greedo Scene New 2019 Disney+ Change Comparison (Maclunkey) - a 1 minute video at the SparkySywer youtube channel.

 
 

Han Solo vs Greedo: “Lost Cut” Edit - an 80 second video at the Booman youtube channel. More info is in the video description.

 

 

Maybe there will more changes made to the ‘Han vs Greedo’ scene again…?

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#1307880
Topic
Where is the site's search function?
Time

Hi & welcome starwarsman6 😃
 

The I can’t find the Search function on the site - Is there one? post, can be found in the larger…

‘How do I do this?’ on the OriginalTrilogy.com - some info & answers to members’ queries thread - located just above your post here - will likely be of some some help.

In the Help section of the site there is also mention of how to perform a search on here - with other useful information too.

 

Also, the Welcome to the OriginalTrilogy.com; Introduce yourself in here + useful info within… may also be of some assistance for other similar info too.

As may the many Index Threads around the site pinned to the top of various forum sections too.
 

Post
#1307836
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker box office results: predictions and expectations
Time

DominicCobb said:

My guess is, aside from the haters online, the word of mouth from even people who don’t like it will be “you should still see it anyway.” It’s the finale, and they’re going balls out, which will be an enticing curiosity even to those who haven’t liked the last two. The war is really more to grab the attention of the general populace who enjoy SW but maybe haven’t necessarily seen every SW film, and haven’t really thought about the series much since they saw TLJ or TFA in theaters.

Indeed this… it will likely be a sort of ‘event movie’ for many - ‘the last film in the Saga’. Even those who’ve seen some Star Wars films before yet don’t consider themselves ‘fans’ will likely go see it on the big screen for the experience (to talk about it on social media, at work, with family and friends etc).

Even the small yet vocal number of online hate providers will go see it to bash on it - got to get those clicks, subscribers and sustain the business model of online hate enabled by the algorithm - afterall there’ll be no SW films to hate on or be offended about for a while after this 😉
 

(I’m somewhat expecting to see a softening of the toxicity and hate - or less prevalence of it - as many of these channels will likely focus on the current and forthcoming tv series. And given the fast moving nature of tv - where episodes aren’t often as often talked about after the following episode has aired… it’ll be more difficult for some to maintain the levels of fume and hate as we have seen for the films 😃)

Post
#1307719
Topic
Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
Time

‘John Boyega Admits His ‘Rise of Skywalker’ Script Ended Up on eBay’:-

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/john-boyega-fesses-up-ebay-star-wars-rise-skywalker-script-listing-1258257

or the GMA video interview itself - https://twitter.com/GMA/status/1199689409446039552

(a few more videos of John Boyega’s GMA appearance on there too - https://twitter.com/GMA)

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#1307717
Topic
<strong>The Mandalorian</strong> - a general discussion thread - * <em><strong>SPOILERS</strong></em> *
Time

The Mandalorian ‘Yoda Baby’ merchandise released…

https://www.starwars.com/news/the-child-merch-from-the-mandalorian-is-here
 

Quite pleasing to know they held off on the release of merchandise for the character… to maintain the surprise of it being in the show… nice one 😃

Intriguing that the article refers to Yoda Baby as ‘The Child’ - and nothing else is given away on him/her…

 


 

Wait — Why Can’t I Buy a Baby Yoda Toy from ‘The Mandalorian’?’:-

https://collider.com/are-there-baby-yoda-toys

Jon Favreau: "I have to thank Disney and Lucasfilm, because the way the cat usually gets out of the bag with that stuff is merchandising and toy catalogs and things like that. So they really back us up. We really wanted to have it be that you had to watch it yourself, so that every time you watch the show, there are new twists and secrets that come out. That requires a lot of restraint from the people who are footing the bill, saying they’re gonna hold back on certain things so that the public doesn’t know ahead of time. Part of that was holding back on some of the merchandise and holding back on some of the characters.”

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#1307707
Topic
The Mandalorian : a Radical Redux Fan Edit <strong>Ideas</strong> thread
Time

Runtimes for the actual screentime of each episode so far (without pre titles & logos, ‘last week on The Mandalorian’ type reminders, and the end credits):-

  1. Chapter One - 35m 46s
  2. The Child - 27m 01s
  3. The Sin - 31m 00s
  4. Sanctuary - 35m 04s
  5. The Gunslinger - 29m 10s
  6. The Prisoner - 37m 35s
  7. The Reckoning - 34m 19s
  8. Redemption - 42m 03s
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#1307386
Topic
The 2 Ewok Films - '<strong>Caravan Of Courage</strong>' (aka 'The Ewok Adventure'), &amp; '<strong>Battle For Endor</strong>'
Time

Z6PO said:

35 years…

Damn… must be getting old 😉

 


 

Some of the poster artwork for these two Ewok films weren’t bad at all…
 

 
 

 


 

The blurb for both ‘Caravan Of Courage’ and ‘Battle For Endor’ (as taken from the official 2004 Double Feature DVD release)

Caravan Of Courage: ‘In Caravan Of Courage, the Towani family are separated when their shuttlecraft crashes on Endor. While the parents are soon captured by the giant known as Gorax, and Mace and Cindel, the son and daughter, are missing. When the Ewoks discover the missing Towani children in the remnants of the shuttlecraft, it becomes clear that the children must establish trust with them in order to embark on an adventure to rescue their parents.’

Battle For Endor: ‘In The Battle For Endor, an army of Marauders, led by King Terak and the witch Charal, attack the Ewok village. Cindel and Wicket escape into the forest, where they meet Teek and Noa. They must befriend Noa in order to team up to defeat the Marauders.’

 

 

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#1307379
Topic
The 2 Ewok Films - '<strong>Caravan Of Courage</strong>' (aka 'The Ewok Adventure'), &amp; '<strong>Battle For Endor</strong>'
Time

According to https://on-this-day.com/cgi-bin/otd/starwarsotd.pl 25 35 years ago to the day as Z6PO point out below… 😃
 

1984 - ‘The Ewok Adventure’ (aka Caravan Of Courage) aired as The ABC Sunday Night Movie.

 

‘The Ewok Adventure trailer’ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HenB3gt6SAY

Post
#1307368
Topic
Ranking the Alien films
Time

Proteus7 said:

Neglify said:

  1. Aliens ***** - Perhaps the most perfect sequel.
  2. Alien ***** - #2 gets the edge because it’s faster and more intense, but the first one is more brilliant.
  3. Alien vs Predator ***1/2 - What can I say, I liked it.
  4. Alien 3 ** - I should rewatch it as it’s been a long time since I saw it and I don’t know if I ever actually watched the “Special Edition”.
  5. Alien: Resurrection ** - I highly highly recommend TMBTM’s fanedit “Alien-Ate”.
  6. AvP Requiem ** - So bad I barely remember it.
  7. Prometheus ** - I wish I barely remembered it.

Where may one view this “Alien-Ate?”

Information on TMBTM’s Alien-Ate Edit can be found at FanEdit - https://ifdb.fanedit.org/alien-ate

and TMBTM also has a great website, here - http://tmbtm-fanedits.blogspot.com

It may be worth PMing / contacting him to see how this Edit can be obtained.

Good luck with it.

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#1307243
Topic
Unusual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
Time

Vladius said:

oojason said:

EddieDean said:

Sorry if I’ve not been up with recent discussions, but what was broken about Holdo’s hair being purple?

Nothing mate.

Though some may want to tackle it as a technical challenge / exercise (apparently it is quite a difficult, labour-intensive task to to do - and get right).

Others don’t like the Holdo character and wish to make changes to her.

An aesthetic choice - some seemingly don’t like (through to some not being able to stand) people having purple hair in their Star Wars space opera / fantasy films.

A few have problems that the purple hair meant that the Holdo character was a lesbian; an oft-mentioned comment when making racist, sexist, homophobic or other derogatory comments on other female characters in the Sequels too.

I like to think most on here doing this change for Edits see it as an aesthetic choice or a technical exercise / challenge…

I think it’s really dishonest to reduce anyone who doesn’t like The Last Jedi to a bunch of politically motivated epithets like “racist,” “sexist,” “homophobic,” etc.

I suggest you read my post again - because I am not sure how you claim to that conclusion based on what I wrote.

Post
#1307167
Topic
Maclunkey
Time

George Lucas Himself Gave Greedo the Last Word in Controversial New Star Wars Edit’:-

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/11/greedo-han-solo-star-wars-edit

 

 

Greedo Shoots First, Take 4: Maclunkey(a study article on the whole Maclunkey scene, by doubleofive):-

https://starwarsviscomp.wordpress.com/2019/11/23/maclunkey

 
 

 

 

 

Where can I buy a ‘Sebulba said #Maclunkey first’ t-shirt? 😉
 

Though this may suffice…

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#1307161
Topic
Complete Comparison of Special Edition Visual Changes
Time

doubleofive’s cracking breakdown on the Maclunkey…
 

Greedo Shoots First, Take 4: Maclunkey’:-

https://starwarsviscomp.wordpress.com/2019/11/23/maclunkey

 

 

George Lucas Himself Gave Greedo the Last Word in Controversial New Star Wars Edit’:-

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/11/greedo-han-solo-star-wars-edit - by Anthony Breznican (on 12th November, 2020)
 

Post
#1307088
Topic
Raiders of the Lost Ark 35mm LPP Theatrical Experience - v1.0 (Released)
Time

Jmarsh2001 said:

So this happened in what, 2016. Its still not available at any source that the common non 12yo person has time to try to access?! I haven’t been on myspleen since…2007? 08? When all of these pussy repositories went private in the late oughts what did it accomplish? Nothing but closing off access because I never ran into too many normies there to begin with. If THEY want them shut down they will be shut down. You don’t think that all of the posts across the internet saying what copyrighted property was available where is enough to get these things destroyed? I don’t belong to any private trackers so how do I even attempt to sign up to blutopia etc. This is all very shortsighted. Frankly these things should be spread across the web so they have a better chance of surviving the inevitable destruction of these dinosaur sites. There are multiple scans of Song of the South on internet archive for crying out loud. Man up zoomer-boomer internet, the only ppl that fall into these cliques on the internet are 12/55yos. Even this site does the thing where “oh, we don’t post things that these companies can use to take us down” but…you allow ppl to collect money to scan films to distribute them? You know ppl have been caught up in a lot of legal problems for less than that right? Why can’t the scan just have a nice searchable name and file size attached to it and ppl can find them where they may. Its 4 years later and this shit is still unfindable. Very sad, boomers.

Strange… especially as looking through this thread members on here have helped fellow members acquire this Edit - and also even pointing out it is available publicly on usenet. So not quite ‘unfindable’.

It seems you did not try PM’ing the thread creator / Editor to see what options there are on how to acquire this?

Nor did you read the Welcome to the OT.com; Introduce yourself in here thread - where a lot of useful info and helpful links are located.
 

Though you did fancy having a rant instead…

And alienating the helpful members on here who would have likely provided you with assistance in finding this Edit… probably to the point your rant may have made them think twice about doing so.
 

Strange that these ‘dinosaur sites’ and ‘pussy repositories’ have been around so long - and are still going strength to strength…
 

Good luck on your lengthy quest in finding and acquiring the Edit - and whatever ‘normies’ are too.