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#638808
Topic
Shea 1979 Bootleg VHS restoration (pre-ANH lettertbox widescreen) (Released)
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Thanks for taking the time to digitize this, thanks PhotoDroid for bringing it to this forums attention, and Shea to saving it all these years.

[might want to add PhotoDroid's first post in your first post/webpage: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/NEW-possibly-2nd-Generation-77-78-Bootleg/post/621425/#TopicPost621425 Hopefully more details of where it came from can be established.

Comparisons:

Shea: Catnap: Krig: Grande: PS78:   mthr-swtc1:

 

msycamore wrote: Does it contain the end credits? I'm also curious to see which X-Wing takeoff matte shot that's on it.

Here's an explanation of the X-Wing takeoff variation: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Print-variations-in-77-Star-Wars/topic/14705/ (view the pics full size for better understanding)

 

Do the credits have: or

Further end credit stuff discussed here: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Credits-Leaders-Thread/topic/12960/ (another aspect is the fade in from the static credits to the rolling ones)

On the subject of cue marks, when making these 16mm, the duplicated source would be punched, then the copies run off.  Or does each copy get punched?  Puggo if you want post Reel Change pics to compare to: http://fd.noneinc.com/Reel_Changes/Reel_Changes.html  I'll add pics of this to the page.

Looking forward to checking this out, see what other aspects don't align with what we know.

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#637526
Topic
George Lucas' Favorite Word
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The Nerd wrote:

none said:

The 282 'the's in Star Wars, 195 in ESB, 163 in RotJ, 301 in TPM, 230 in AotC and 288 in RotS have a gripe with this thread.

You actually counted? You have no life. LOL

*shakes head* Where to begin.  Why do you use the name you do then mock people who do something which is quote unquote classic nerd behavior.  And please stay ignorant of the find/replace function of text applications.

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#637135
Topic
Star Wars: A New Hope [SET ruLes 1.0] - AVCHD & BD RELEASED!
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Avatar_Emil wrote:

Although this is an SE project, it's not necessarily about language versions.  For that CatBus has started 'Project Threepio" which has collected multiple languages and created a subtitle pack which people can use to put into other fan created projects.  Swedish is one of them.  Here's that thread:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Project-Threepio-Star-Wars-OOT-subtitles/topic/13794/

Ask there about SE files, my recollection is that most of the work up to this point has been towards pre-SE SWs.

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#635435
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John Wash and Dan O'Bannon
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John Wash's resume describes his work as:

http://washvfx.com/html/about.html

1976 - 1977
Graphic Animator - Lucasfilm, Ltd.

  • Creation of graphic display imagery for use in the feature STAR WARS.

    and

    After graduating, Wash was approached by a fellow USC graduate, George Lucas, to design and produce graphic animation for a science fiction project that was to become the legendary classic, STAR WARS. During production, John utilized computer generated imagery for the first time, using the SCANIMATE analog computer to produce an animated display of the Death Star.

 

Purely speculation, but maybe shots like this:

Would be John Wash.

While:

maybe:

Were Dan O'Bannon?

and all the white on black stuff being Cuba:

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#635283
Topic
The Phantom Menace: Japanese Laserdisc Preservation - MKV Available now (Released)
Time

pittrek wrote: BTW there was a shot where they added a CGI bridge for the DVD/BD. Does anybody remember in which scene it was so that I can check it ?

It's the establishing shot of GTF occupied Naboo after the heroes begin their return from Coruscant.  ~1:35:00.  It's a few shots after Jar-Jar says: "Weesa going home!"  The shot after the CGI modified bridge is Sidious (hologram) talking to Gunray. 

pics of the shot in this post:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Prequel-Bootlegs/post/611716/#TopicPost611716

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#634858
Topic
May 2004 Be With You
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youtube wrote: And when we celebrate the anniversary of the 2004 DVDs, it will be like celebrating the anniversary of some dead celebrity, except this time it's about the original SW trilogy...

There's no original anything in this 'May 2004 Be With You' campaign.  This is about Remembering the Second Special Edition, the one we were told was going to be the one we wouldn't forget.

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#634842
Topic
The Empire Strikes Back Music Cue List
Time

The Nerd wrote:

timdiggerm said:

I think he's just telling you that it's known.

Oh. I thought this was almost the discovery of a lifetime.

And I thought you might be interested in a project which very successfully recreates the experience the people at the original recording sessions experienced.

The JWFan message board has thoughts on the ANH and RotJ cue lists:

http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=9006&hl=Resource

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#633770
Topic
Lucas and EditDroid photo?
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Haven't seen the pic before, but trying to find it came across this home video:

This is from April 30th 1984 at the NAB National Association of Broadcasters 62nd Annual meeting in Las Vegas. 

The Las Vegas Con in 1984 showing off the debut of the EditDroid. A Convergence and George Lucas Films venture.

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AolyzBMHAJE

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27hVFq2RB1w

Nothing to enlightening.  Although Jedi is shown on the monitor, in the second vid.  As this system used LaserDisc's wonder if one of them ever made it's way into the collectible's market?

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#633673
Topic
YouTube/Vimeo/etc... Star Wars video finds
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Search engines are often a [insert some period of time] behind forums posts.  But this might depend on which link you use.  If you use the io9 then nothing, but if you use the vimeo link:

https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aoriginaltrilogy.com+http%3A%2F%2Fvimeo.com%2F27626805&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

leads to: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/YouTube-Vimeo-etc-Star-Wars-finds/post/553510/#TopicPost553510

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#632543
Topic
Star Wars Reviews from 1977
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MathUser wrote: You could at least provide links to the viewable reviews. You didn't even provide a link to the main site:  That's a lot of articles to search for, especially when only 3 out of 14 are viewable.

"I'm glad you're here to tell us these things"

I'm sorry you don't appreciate the way I use the internet.  I found it quicker to use a search engine query then the unz.org search system.  So I provided that information.  Anyone can post links to exact articles if they so choose.  You and I share the trait that we couldn't be bothered.  Happy Life Day.

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#632284
Topic
Star Wars Reviews from 1977
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The following site has twelve 1977 reviews of Star Wars:  [...ok really only 3-5 are readable... as many are unavailable due to copyright... but with the article and author maybe a different copy can be found.]

[search engine] "site:unz.org "star wars""

The Current Cinema (2 Reviews) by Penelope Gilliatt, pp. 69-71
 Galaxy Crisis
The New Yorker, June 13, 1977
 
On Films: Innocences (3 Reviews) by Stanley Kauffmann, p. 22
 Star Wars, by George Lucas, ...
The New Republic, June 18, 1977
 
Films (Review) by Robert Hatch, p. 794
 Star Wars, by George Lucas
The Nation, June 25, 1977
 
"Feel Good" Film (3 Reviews) by Judith Crist, pp. 40-41
 Star Wars, by George Lucas, ...
The Saturday Review, July 9, 1977
 
All-Star (Wars) Escape Extravaganza (Review) by Mavis Lyons, p. 23
 Star Wars, by George Lucas
In These Times, July 13, 1977

Film: The Perfect Movie (Review) by David Brudnoy, p. 839
 Star Wars, by George Lucas
The National Review, July 22, 1977
 
Review Star Wars, by George Lucas --- by John J. Pierce,, p. 46
Reason, August 1977
 
The Current Cinema (3 Reviews) by Pauline Kael, pp. 123-132
 Contrasts
The New Yorker, September 26, 1977
 
Films: Star Wars (Review) by Baird Searles, pp. 61-63
 Star Wars, by George Lucas
The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction, October 1977
 
Films: Star Wars II (Review) by Baird Searles, pp. 98-100
 Star Wars, by George Lucas
The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction, November 1977

Films: 3, 2, 1, Rip Off! (Review) by Michael Moorcock, p. 857
 Star Wars, by George Lucas
The New Statesman, December 16, 1977
 
Films: The Things from Outer Space (6 Reviews) by John Coleman, p. 856
 Star Wars, by George Lucas, ...
The New Statesman, December 16, 1977
 
The Revenge of the Empire (4 Reviews) by Algis Budrys, pp. 59-76
 THX 1138, by George Lucas, ...
Amazing Science Fiction Stories, March 1984
 
Movies: Peak Condition (3 Reviews) by David Denby, pp. 55-56
 Dante's Peak, by Roger Donaldson, ...
New York Magazine, February 17, 1997

Doubt you'll see another SW review with 'Iteinerant Cowpunch' ever again.

 

Poking around there are possibly other interesting reviews to find elsewhere unfortuantely.  Here's one for maybe the novelization from Feb of 77!

 The Reference Library (6 Reviews) by Lester del Rey, pp. 166-170
 Gateway, by Frederik Pohl, ...
Analog/Astounding Science Fiction, February 1977

 

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#632268
Topic
May 2004 Be With You
Time

So what ends up being important in my mind is what the DVD version is going to look like, because that's what everybody is going to remember.

George Lucas

As it is the 9th anniversary, i'm proposing that for the month of May these forums do their best to support the preservation of the 'Star Wars everybody is going to remember', the 2004 DVD set.

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#630668
Topic
my Empire Strikes Back 'Concept and Storyboard' Short video project
Time

This is wonderful, Oleo.  I'd even be happy without all the camera movements.  I've had dreams of accomplishing this as a website of some kind, people could tag images to the specific sequence of the movie, then in slideshow fashion, they would be played thru as you've done with the movie audio.

poita wrote: I wish Lucasfilm would release a storyboard book with all the storyboards for each film, I would pay almost anything for something like that!

A SW-Prequels book was announced: http://starwarsblog.starwars.com/index.php/2012/10/18/star-wars-storyboards%E2%80%94the-prequels-book-announced/ [there was a strange clause that new ones were being drawn...]

There is a Storyboard thread in the General forum: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Story-Boards-Thread/topic/13004/

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#630207
Topic
Starlog Magazine at archive.org
Time

As they have full .txt for each issue, if all the .txts are downloaded, most modern OSs can parse all the text in normal file searches.  So made an excel doc which creates the file links:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtjXdIjRQo5NdDRObnRSZ1gtcEI1OVFTZmNlZ3lJQXc&usp=sharing

Copy the links into jDowloader or some other automated downloader and we can now search the issue for terms.  (all the 228 .txt files is 73.2 mb)

"Star Wars" returns 222 issues

"George Lucas" returns 215 issues

"Luke Skywalker" returns 122 issues

"Greedo" returns 2 issues

"Gary Kurtz" returns 190 issues

"Dave Prowse" returns 49 issues

"Jawa" returns 9 issues

"Tippett" returns 36 issues

In the excel doc is also the .pdf linkage for mass downloading.  (~51GB) Throw out a term/s and I can do the search.

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#629333
Topic
Idea: Star Wars Fan Preservations Documentary
Time

Here's a series of related projects/threads/lists which could make one train of thought / chapter:

Started out with the goal of:
Restorations / Recreations / DeSpecialized Versions
aka picking and choosing best sources to recreate the 1977 experience
but maybe this is better as
'Special Edition to DeSpecialized'


-+- The Change -+-

1997.01
Star Wars Special Editions

+Find several quotes of Film historians critical of the SEs+
+there's a couple quotes from 1997 which eloquently attempted to alert the public of this revisionism+

-+- Identifying the Changes -+-

1997.??
Red5.net.au Special Edition page
http://web.archive.org/web/19970624035356/http://www.red5.net.au/special/

1997.08
Paul Ens' Star Wars Special Edition Annotations - started in rec.arts.sf.starwars.misc (usenet)
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/6251
http://www.theforce.net/swse/index.html (1998.01)

1997.??
StarWars.com Special Edition changes article
http://www.starwars.com/???????

1999.11
dvdfile.com article "Star Wars changes we weren't told about"
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.movies/browse_thread/thread/1aa38db7cc6cf00d/d11fd08ab90a35e3?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=special+edition+changes#d11fd08ab90a35e3

+Could touch upon the continuous edit wars over the wikipedia SW changes page+

-+- The Changes Continue -+-

2004.09
Star Wars Trilogy DVD set
First time original trilogy in DVD format.

2004.10
Star Wars: The Changes by DVDactive.com
http://www.dvdactive.com/editorial/articles/star-wars-the-changes-part-one.html

+at this point maybe point out the Episode addition and other changes made during the early days+

-+- We can 'Unlearn' -+-

2004.10
Using the '04 version to restore teh original
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Using-the-04-version-to-restore-teh-original/topic/1168/page/1/

2004.10
Star Wars Legacy Version 1
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Using-the-04-version-to-restore-teh-original/post/69143/#TopicPost69143
http://www.starwarslegacy.com

2004.??
StarWars.com 2004 Changes article

2004.11
Thought on de-SE'ing the DVD by ADigitalMan
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Thought-on-de-SE-ing-the-DVD/topic/1532/

2005.01
Any Interest In A Corrected 2004 DVD? by Neil S. Bulk
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Any-Interest-In-A-Corrected-2004-DVD/topic/1711/

2005.01
Prototype Mono Pre-ANH "XP77:4EB" Edit by Molly
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Prototype-Mono-Pre-ANH-XP77-4EB-Edit/topic/1757/
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/russdawson/gtf/dvd/OT/molly.html
Sources : Mysterious Mysteries (EditDroid) LD with ITV mono mix audio

2005.01
Wookie Groomer Split Screen by Wookie Groomer
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Greetings-from-Wookie-Groomer-Split-Screen-News/topic/1773/
Would have implications a few years later.

2005.05
Star Wars: Classic Edition [V1 and V2] by ocpmovie
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-Classic-Edition-by-Ocpmovie/topic/2270/

2005.05
70mm ESB Differences
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/70-mm-print-of-the-Empire-Strikes-Back-Differences/topic/2321/

2005.06
Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope (Darth Editous Edition) - v1 thru v5?
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/The-Darth-Editous-Episode-IV-DVD-Info-and-Feedback-Thread-a-partially-de-specialed-DVD/topic/2425/

-+- Identifying the Changes - Audio -+-

2005.??
Starkiller's Guide to the Mono Sound Mix
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/russdawson/mono/

2005.12
The "Darth Editous / ADigitalMan" Hybrid Edition
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/The-Darth-Editous-ADigitalMan-Hybrid-Edition-Info-and-Feedback-Thread/topic/3923/

2006.??
"We want you to be aware that we have no plans—now or in the future—to restore the earlier versions."
http://originaltrilogy.com/Lucasfilm_PR_response.cfm

2007.03
The Empire Strikes Back - The Vintage Edit by PaulisDead2221
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/The-Empire-Strikes-Back-The-Vintage-Edit/topic/7634/

+slight detour but helps explain the years that pass as this topic went semi-dormant+  [well according to this list, probably missing...  a great many things]

2006.07
Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope 'Revisited'
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/STAR-WARS-EP-IV-2004-REVISITED-ADYWAN-720p-HD-version-coming-after-ROTJ-R/topic/5942/

2008.04
Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope 'Revisited' PURIST Edition
http://www.originaltrilogy.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=9&threadid=5942

2009.07
The Phantom Menace Theatrical Version by Adywan
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/The-Phantom-Menace-Theatrical-Version-NTSC-DVD-ADYWAN-NOW-AVAILABLE/topic/10615/

+return to main topic+

2010.05
Star Wars Trilogy "Partly Despecialized Edition" by Harmy
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Harmys-STAR-WARS-TRILOGY-Partly-Despecialized-Edition-HD-These-version-are-now-obsolete-Look-for-Despecialized-Editions-instead/topic/11587/

-+- Identifying the Changes - Revisited -+-

2010.09
doubleofive's SE Visual Changes thread:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Complete-Comparison-of-Special-Edition-Visual-Changes/topic/11927/

2011.04
Star Wars - Despecialized Edition v1 by Harmy
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Harmys-STAR-WARS-Despecialized-Edition-HD-REMASTERED-v21-AVCHD-is-now-out/topic/12713/

2011.09
Star Wars released in Blu-ray

2011.??
Star Wars - Despecialized Edition v2 by Harmy
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Harmys-STAR-WARS-Despecialized-Edition-HD-REMASTERED-v21-AVCHD-is-now-out/topic/12713/


Would love to be able to find the first mentioning of despecializing.