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Let us know of ways we can help.  There are various ways to approach and not sure which is best.  Can see setting out a final length for the feature (let's say half hour) then setting aside blocks of time for major steps the community has made.  5 min. intro, 7 minutes on LD, 5 for GOUT, 5 for film, 3 for misc, then 5 for summary.  Not sure if that's a beezey pace or too long...  Or is a list of the projects you feel are important gets timelined and then piece together their innovations and that becomes your backbone, length of doc ends up being whatever it becomes.  Also with this list, the ones which are unseeded or relatively lost can be put back up somewhere.

http://sanrafael.patch.com/articles/documentary-depicts-george-lucas-daughters-rise-as-pro-fighter

Documentary on Amanda Lucas and her MMA career.  But there is behind the scenes family video on location on the sets of RotJ and Indy.  And there's some talk of Marcia Lucas.

The Power of the Force collection of 1998 came with 'Freeze Frame Action Slides'.  Anyone care to speculate on their origin?

Pics here: http://www.rebelscum.com/potf2freezeframes.asp

[don't remember posting this in the Fan Edit section, post maybe so old it's using the old forum numbers.  Move please.]

I have no aspirations for the future of Star Wars.

Was TPM trailer officially released in half or full sbs?  If that's true, might make sense to take your 3d creation system, attempt a shot or two shots and see how they comparison to everyone.

The presentation at the recent Celebration for the AotC 3D had some great photos of the length they were going to get the depths they felt worked.  But they had the 3D geometry to play with.  Two clips they focused on were Obi talking to Dexter and part of the Zam chase.  With the Dexter clip they could ratchet the 3D effect to pull his nose toward camera or foreshorten the character in relation to the background.

skyjedi2005 wrote: an HD doc called Prophets of Sci FI on the science channel

Prophets of Science Fiction was a Ridley Scott production focusing on the connection of stories/entertainment to hard science.

http://science.discovery.com/tv-shows/prophets-of-science-fiction

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophets_of_Science_Fiction

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2091018/

Prophets of Science Fiction S01E08 George Lucas 1080i HDTV DD5.1 MPEG2-TrollHD.ts  (372 days old usenet crap.)

The vague ending might make for the series having a longer life.  I can't help but feel that they would like to install Ashoka as the Yoda of the next group of films, so end the series now.  She figures out some 'side' of the force the Ep1-6 Jedi's forgot, and her older self can play some small pivotal role in the newer movies.

This guy runs through his collection of German super8mm Star Wars's:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsVgXcFC5Jg

Die Star Wars Geschichte auf Super 8

Published on Dec 15, 2012

Liebe Super 8 Freunde, in diesem Video stelle ich euch die Super 8 Schnittfassungen von Star Wars vor. Sie waren die ersten Filme für das Kino zuhause und das noch lange bevor es Video gab!

Indy3 era Japanese documentary on Spielberg and Lucas (SW related bits)

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue134XHrT0A (Skywalker ranch)

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DeqARp-bE8 (Lucas on set, SW bit, ILM models, Lucas interview)

Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKrMC03Xbg4 (Lucas interview)

Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX5hr6wCaFE (Ben Burtt)

Part 6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qjo1A9TFAkQ (Lucas on the Ranch and studio system)

Part 7: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_HYR7osXK0 (more Lucas)  [prophetic end credit music]

Aussie Lucas & Spielberg spoof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W326TlETVjo

Previous Trailer Threads with lists:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/lt-The-Star-Wars-Trailers-Project-gt/topic/5649/

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-Original-Trilogy-Theatrical-and-Home-Video-Trailers-Deconstruction/topic/11744/

Bingowings wrote: Nope none got in there.

I also went to the NY premiere party.  One of those docs that points the camera at a series of people with a dedication to a certain aspect of the culture, but it doesn't pull together and at the end becomes one of those things people might watch to make themselves feel better.  Hey Look at 'those' crazy fanatics, they're such nerds.  If you watch other SW fan docs this one will be in that period, post RotS, when SW inflated past mainstream.  Much of the content is that cliche male 24-35 type shit, as you can gather from their choice of cover.

J.W. Rinzler wrote a blog post about Supersnipe:

http://starwarsblog.starwars.com/index.php/2013/02/21/george-lucas-and-comic-books-an-early-link/#more-20365

Here's more of the story:

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2012/11/23/comic-book-legends-revealed-394/

COMIC LEGEND: Nearly thirty years after the fact, Lucasfilm allowed a Hungarian bootleg adaptation of Star Wars to be officially finished.

STATUS: True

Reader Robert V. filled me in on a fascinating occurrence in Hungary. During the 1980s, there was a Hungarian comic book adaptation of the first two Star Wars films.

However, they never actually asked for permission and when Lucasfilm found out about it, they forced them to stop the adaptation. They had finished the first two films, but not Return of the Jedi.

Well, fast forward to just this year and Lucasfilm has actually allowed the local Hungarian Star Wars Fan Club to commission the original artist on the adaptations, the great Attila Fazekas, to do a 500 copy print run (absolutely no more than 500 copies) of an adaptation of Return of the Jedi!

It just came out last month!

Info about release:

http://www.kepregeny.net/fazekas-attila-a-jedi-visszater/

http://www.comicbitsonline.com/2012/12/14/attila-fazekas-and-the-legal-bootleg-star-wars/

In 1982 – without the permission of Lucasfilm – he (Attila Fazekas) made a very good adaption of Star Wars, which was sold over 600,000 copies (yeah, no mistake: 600, 000) in Hungary. And two years later he produced an adaption of The Empire Strikes Back.

 

After 1990 the original US comics were published in my country too, but the Hungarian Star Wars fans have never given up dreaming about having a Fazekas-Return Of The Jedi. Now the dream comes true: Lucasfilm has kindly given permission to the Hungarian Star Wars Fan Club to publish Return Of The Jedi but limited to no more then 500 copies and for FREE (i.e. no licence fees were requested).

If you are referring to the white dashed like line, that seems more like a video artifact.  Glue splices are not this precise or travel single file like this thing. 

Maybe those dashes are a set of broadcast data which in the old days wouldn't be seen as tv tubes overscan would cut this off.  Did CAV's have a form of copyright protection?

I think your interpretation of this article's title is wrong.  The Library of Congress did not have it's Copyright application prints replaced.  The original prints given in the year of the films release are still there. 

1977 - Star Wars : http://lccn.loc.gov/96512247
1980 - Empire Strikes Back : http://lccn.loc.gov/96512208
1983 - Return of the Jedi : http://lccn.loc.gov/96501520
1997 - Star Wars A New Hope Special Edition : http://lccn.loc.gov/97510343
1997 - Empire Strikes Back Special Edition : http://lccn.loc.gov/98502262
1997 - Return of the Jedi Special Edition : http://lccn.loc.gov/2006642053
1999 - The Phantom Menace : http://lccn.loc.gov/99468631
2002 - Attack of the Clones : http://lccn.loc.gov/2002636427
2005 - Revenge of the Sith : http://lccn.loc.gov/2005644161
2008 - The Clone Wars : http://lccn.loc.gov/2008636030

It was the copy that was given (maybe) in 1989 as part of the National Film Registry which could have possibly been swapped.  But I've been told conflicting reports, A: the swap story and B: the one where they never got a print in the first place.

I need to reach out to them again to find out what happened after ESB was included to the NFR a few years back.  Last time I got a reply they had not been given a print, but that was a month or two after the announcement, way too early.  Tried a year later but didn't hear back, need to try again.

Recent update to the 'Black Angel' story:

http://www.wired.com/underwire/2012/12/20-12-pl_blackangel/

Christian is still debating how to share Black Angel with fans.

I've referenced a project which uses this spreadsheet to create something.  The project is called AARRSSTW - WTSSRRAA and it resorts the Star Wars 1997 Special Edition by shot length.  FAQ: http://www.noneinc.com/AARRSSTW-WTSSRRAA/AARRSSTW-WTSSRRAA.html  OT.com thread: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/AARRSSTW-WTSSRRAA/topic/15036/  The project contains how to files which can help others begin to experiment with spreadsheet fan editing.

As this current release utilizes an obsolete format, when I can learn new software the disc may be converted to some 'modern' format. 

Explanation of the Process of Resorting a Video File

SWSELT00-Explanation.txt
  - this file -

File Location:

http://noneinc.com/AARRSSTW-WTSSRRAA/ProcessFiles

http://noneinc.com/AARRSSTW-WTSSRRAA/Spreadsheets

[General Note : if you attempt this yourself these files are guides.  You'll need to replace various pieces to get them to work on your system.  File names and locations for example.]

SWSELT01-ShotList.xlsx
File contains the Shot Start/End points for the Star Wars Special Edition LaserDisc Lee Thorogood capture.  Shot length data originated from negative1's GOUT analysis.  %20 confirmed and expanded where things went off or shots were missing.  Then the data was expanded to the Special Edition's formation.

Believe I have found an automated solution.  There is an After Effects' plugin called 'Magnum - The Edit Detector', have run it on part of The Phantom Menace and it worked extremely well.  Haven't thought up / figured out a way to export the edits Magnum would find to a spreadsheet or text file.  Hopefully it'll be as easy as processing the .aep file or a modified export.


SWSELT02-XML-PreSort.xlsx
File contains the Shot List and the conversion/re-organization tab, which in later versions is sorted to produce AARRSSTW and WTSSRRAA.  The later two tabs are the partial XML conversion, one for video, one for audio.

Note: When transitioning from step to step, formulas of the previous spreadsheet version are often removed.  In later steps the resorting would not work 100% if the formulas are left intact.


SWSELT02-XML-PreSortBasicXML-ProRes4444-25to24.txt
File contains the basic .XML structure and the two zones in which the reorganized video and audio will be dropped in the next step.  The header information is specific to the video file type your files are saved as.  (in this case ProRes4444 with the conform 25 fps to 24 fps)  To figure out your header information, create a video editing file with your unedited video in it, then export as .XML.  I cut out sections of the .XML code to get as bare bones a file which could accomplished my goal.


SWSELT03-XML-AARRSSTW.xlsx and SWSELT04-XML-WTSSRRAA.xlsx
Files contain the resorted/reorganized shot data.  Ascending and Descending.  In descending not just by shot length but by reverse original order.

SWSELT03a-XML-AARRSSTW-4csv.xlsx and SWSELT04a-XML-WTSSRRAA-4csv.xlsx
Simplified version, removing extraneous columns not required for .CSV (Comma Separated Values) export which is to be used for the JavaScript with After Effects in Step 05.

SWSELT03a-XML-AARRSSTW-4csv - AARRSSTW-4csv.csv and SWSELT04a-XML-WTSSRRAA-4csv - WTSSRRAA-4csv.csv
The raw exported .CSV data which will be used to fill out the text fields in After Effects.  (Errors will return if there is a blank field, especially in the 'text' columns.)

SWSELT03b-XML-AARRSSTW - AARRSSTW-XML-Audio.tsv and SWSELT03b-XML-AARRSSTW - AARRSSTW-XML-Video.tsv
SWSELT04b-XML-WTSSRRAA - WTSSRRAA-XML-Audio.tsv and SWSELT04b-XML-WTSSRRAA - WTSSRRAA-XML-Video.tsv
The google spreadsheet exported text version of the .XML data for Audio and Video.  Data needs to be cleaned up to removed extraneous spaces.  File location needs to be find/replaced.  And if you are using a Stereo Mix you'll need to create Audio Left and Right possibly.


Data from SWSELT03b and SWSELT04b can then be dropped into SWSELT02-XML-PreSortBasicXML-ProRes4444-25to24.txt and the file renamed to .XML.  Import the .XML into the video editing program of your choice.


SWSELT05-AfterEffects-CSVtoTextLayers-mod-inPointoutPoint.jsx
This is the JavaScript to insert spreadsheet data (Step 03a) into existing text objects in After Effects.  The script was found online but was modified so that the new objects would act similar to a subtitle.  The script was modified to add inPoint/outPoint data, pulled from the spreadsheet.  The script finds a text object with the same name as one of the columns in the .CSV file, each spreadsheet row becoming a new composition element.

Found that my system would greatly slow down the importing of data when the entries passed the 200 count.  So split the .CSV into 10 chunks and saved each one individually.  Then imported the .AEP pieces into the final After Effects file.  

This is probably not the most efficient way but it did the job.


SWSELT06-XML-AARRSSTW-CompMarkers.tsv and SWSELT06-XML-WTSSRRAA-CompMarkers.tsv
SWSELT06z-XML-AARRSSTW - AARRSSTW-XML-Compression Markers.xml
Turns out multi-angle DVDs require extremely similar GOP (Group of Pictures) information.  This option is typically used when a movie wants to change a shot.  In this case the entire two movies are dissimilar.  But we can make them similar by inserting Compression Markers. (just about everywhere)  These files take the inPoint data and sets a Compression Marker in .XML.  When the Compression Markers from each film are applied to each video file, the hope is that the DVD making program will consider them as having the same GOP structure.  Luckily Compression Markers can be unlimited, in this case the two movies each have 2291 scene changes so these files insert 4582 Compression Markers.

SWSELT99a-Subtitles-Converter.txt
Not completed in this version of AARRSSTW-WTSSRRAA.  Couldn't find a working subtitle track or convert an existing one into something which conformed.  Got many of the spreadsheet reconfiguring math to semi-work, but not sure if the problems were with the frame rate calculation.


Other issues along the way.

Originally imported the .XML for AARRSSTW and WTSSRRAA in different Final Cut Pro files.  But even with the same compression markers this returned different GoP structures which didn't convince DVD Studio Pro that they were similar enough.  So eventually dropped everything into one FCP file and this worked.  Also since there was a compression marker a couple frames from the end of the file, added 12 frames of blank.

Had difficulties with video compression.  Compressor I think would run out of memory towards the end of some of the processing so multiple versions would be the wrong size or had artifacting towards the end.  Specifically WTSSRRAA which is more active at the end.  Also when the compression lowered below the 3.85 threshold that also gave WTSSRRAA bad renders.  Needed to delete programs to clear out about 9gb of free space, to get everything to work.

The Chapter Markers turned out to be a waste of time.  Typically set up 50-99 chapter markers so there are places to jump to.  (two groups which remained were for the Title and Copyright shots [which happened to be back to back] and the flip over point for the DVD9 disc)  Had set up markers at the first time a shot jumped tens, same with the defending.  DVD Studio Pro to get the main feature to have active buttons requires special button highlight markers and as the HD HVDVD_TS format limits to 48 buttons, during the video, to have the buttons constantly active you are limited to the number of Chapter Markers.  So ended up deleting many markers.

The HVDVD_TS format is the betamax of the high definition DVD wars.  Using this format was another happy accident to reinforce the shit nature of technology at this time, society is inventing new techniques to make things obsolete and to make sure things are difficult for the next generation to view.  Were also make new tech which doesn't work with the older formats.

Screen Caps (half res)

http://noneinc.com/AARRSSTW-WTSSRRAA/AARRSSTW-WTSSRRAA-Pic0296.jpg

http://noneinc.com/AARRSSTW-WTSSRRAA/AARRSSTW-WTSSRRAA-Pic0297.jpg

http://noneinc.com/AARRSSTW-WTSSRRAA/AARRSSTW-WTSSRRAA-TitleAARRSSTW.jpg

http://noneinc.com/AARRSSTW-WTSSRRAA/AARRSSTW-WTSSRRAA-TitleWTSSRRAA.jpg

http://noneinc.com/AARRSSTW-WTSSRRAA/AARRSSTW-WTSSRRAA-Copyright.jpg

http://noneinc.com/AARRSSTW-WTSSRRAA/AARRSSTW-WTSSRRAA-Pic0957.jpg

AARRSSTW - WTSSRRAA
The Star Wars 1997 Special Edition made Specialier.
A multi-angled double feature.

“Continuing the legacy of projects which overcome great technological hurdles, but
provide little to zero entertainment value, viewer reward, societal insight or benefit.”

A reconfiguring fan edit by %20
Assistance by the fabricated :F:L:I:M:S:I:P:L:A:S:T: 😄:A:T:A:B:A:S:E:

Disc Information:
Type…: HVDVD_TS (defunct)
Size…: 8.xx GB
Video Format…: H.264
Video Resolution…: 1280 x 720 letterboxed (1280 x 544)
Audio Format…: Dolby Digital Professional 2.0 AC3
Subtitle Data Mask…: Yes

Source Info:
LaserDisc UK PAL : Star Wars Special Edition (1997)
http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/18974/EE-1232/Star-Wars-Trilogy:-Special-Edition-(1997)
Preservation by Lee Thorogood
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/LeeThorogoods-PAL-LaserDisc-Preservation-Project-97-SE-Finished-95-THX-Finished-97-SE-Uploaded-95-THX-Uploaded-to-the-newsgroup/topic/11824/

DVD-ROM Content:
Guide and files to help you make your own.  .csv, .jsx, .txt, .xlsx, .xml + more.

What is AARRSSTW - WTSSRRAA?
The 1997 Star Wars Special Edition resorted by shot length.  Ascending and Descending the 2291 shots of 0002 to 1765 frames.  %20’s attempt to create a possibly equally perplexing retelling, which lives up to the “Specialer” moniker.

History:
Members of OriginalTrilogy.com (OT.com) have been pursuing and documenting aspects of the Star Wars films as the community attempts to preserve the films or at least inform the world of their significance so a proper restoration will take place.  Two projects influenced the creation of AARRSSTW - WTSSRRAA.  The first, by zombie84, was an attempt to document the changes between Star Wars variations by chronicling the shots modified.  The second, by negative1, was a documentation of the 2006 DVD (GOUT) release’s shot length.  User none expanded the zombie84 Special Edition change documentation so that it listed every shot and then cross referenced with the negative1 GOUT data.  At that point %20 thought about what could be accomplished now that this data was public.  AARRSSTW-WTSSRRAA was started to showcase the ability of spreadsheet fan editing and the promotion of a more robust data intensive spreadsheet.  In which the next group of cultural reformers can create something else, or at least have as a nice reference.

Acknowledgements:
Thanks to Lucasfilm for making a popular yet contentious movie.
Thanks to originaltrilogy.com and fanedit.org who support fan participation in culture.
Lee Thorogood for the LaserDisc transfer.

Process:
The initial spreadsheets were created using online spreadsheet tools.  As the initial shot data was a documentation of the 2006 DVD, a conversion was done to insert the scenes added in 1997 for the Special Edition.

Figured out the .XML code by reverse engineering an exported video editing project.  The spreadsheet was configured to insert the resorted shot length data into the .XML format.  The resorted movie in .XML format can then be imported into most video editing software.  The resorted video and audio were then exported for the DVD authoring.

To expand the final presentation, in the top black bar space, multiple fields of the spreadsheet were inputted using Comma Separated Value’s (.CSW) and JavaScript (.JSX) coding in an expanded subtitle like process.  (capitalizing on the inPoint/outPoint feature in After Effects)

To provide a viewer participation aspect the multi-angle DVD feature was used.  This required the Group Of Pictures (GOP) structure to be identical.  As AARRSSTW and WTSSRRAA do not share any common frames, luckily the edit points could be reused to create ‘i’ key frame compression markers which with both edits applied to one feature, gave enough GOP structure so the DVD authoring software would consider them GOP equals.

The LaserDisc capture was horizontally stretched from anamorphic to full resolution 720 HD.
[more detailed process discussion is in the DVD_ROM folder’s support files]
Released in the defunct HD DVD HVDVD_TS format.

Playback:
For those that can find a playback solution for the obsolete HVDVD_TS, the presentation has active buttons for on the fly switching between AARRSSTW and WTSSRRAA.  The video and audio’s can be switched and the information data bar in the top can be blacked out with a subtitle option.  To switch using a remote, the number keypad’s 1 and 2 control the video, 3 and 4 turn the data on and off and 5 and 6 switch the audio.  Button 7 is an empty button which will remove all reference to their being buttons.

Full FAQ and Project Files: http://www.noneinc.com/AARRSSTW-WTSSRRAA/AARRSSTW-WTSSRRAA.html

The Disney / Netflix deal http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/12/04/netflix-bests-starz-in-bid-for-disney-movies/ gives them a platform to release on-demand any of the old versions.  They'll probably put up a year or two after the current SW is first put out, some of the old versions starting with GOUT.

More about the late addition to ESB can be found in tMoESB Rinzler book, pg. 333-334. 

Although not the same character as was being talked about a page back, but another info tidbit from this shot.

http://www.theforce.net/episode1/hidden/hidden_stuff_page_07.asp

The lead animation supervisor Rob Coleman has a brief cameo behind Jabba and Gardulla the Hutts at the pod race.