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A general discussion thread on the Mos Eisley Cantina…

 

 

There’s been much discussion of the Mos Eisley Cantina scene on here over the years - yet no dedicated thread; so here goes…

Ever since we first stepped inside the Mos Eisley Cantina, many of us have been enthralled - not only by the array of the alines, creatures, and other intriguing patrons - but also the original iconic setting that was this wretched hive of scum and villainy…

 

 

 

The original unaltered scene in Star Wars of the Mos Eisley Cantina - where Han shot Greedo - without Greedo firing a shot.

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‘STAR WARS: Clip - Cantina (1977)’ - a 7 minute video at the JoBlo Movie Clips youtube channel (before the 1997 Special Edition).

 

 

 

 

A couple of quality resources for the layout of the Cantina - plus bios, images, and locations of the Cantina patrons…

 

1. Who’s Who in Mos Eisley Cantina

 

 

 

 

The Cantina Patrons section - with bios and images for everyone that appears in the Mos Eisley Cantina scene.

 

^ with much more info at https://sites.google.com/site/starwarswhoswho/home/who-s-who-in-mos-eisley-cantina

 

 

2. Cantina Maps & Blueprints

 

 

 

^ 1. Thuku. | 2. Buearacrat #2. | 3. Boelo. | 4. Spaceman #4. | 5. Danz Borin. | 6. Mosep | 7. Spaceman #3. | 8. Leesub Sirlin. | 9. Spaceman #2. | 10. Jenny. | 11. Neesh. | 12. Colonel #2. | 13. Han Solo. | 14. Corellian Pirate. | 15. Debnoli. | 16. Eyvind. | 17. Merc Sunlet. | 18. Jabba’s Henchman. | 19. Local Ugly Man #1. | 20. Local Ugly Man #2. | 21. Brea Tonnika. | 22. Senni Tonnika. | 23. Ariq Joanson. | 24. Little Aunt Beru. | 25. Yerka Mig. | 26. Takeel. | 27. Sai’torr Kal Fas. | 28. Nabrun Leids. | 29. Rycar Ryjerd. | 30. Hrcheck Kal Fas. | 31. Dannik Jeriko. | 32. Wuher. | 33. Dr. Evazan. | 34. Ponda Baba. | 35. Ben Kenobi. | 36. Chewbacca. | 37. Local (Farmer). | 38. Zutton. | 39. Kitik Keed’kak. | 40. Farmer #1. | 41. Farmer #2. | 42. Swilla Corey. | 43. Buearacrat #1. | 44. Tawss Khaa. | 45. Wioslea. | 46. Bo Shek. | 47. Kabe. | 48. Greedo. | 49. Tzizvvt. | 50. Solomahal. | 51. Het Nkik. | 52. Reegesk. | 53. Garouf Lafoe. | 54. C-3PO. | 55. Luke Skywalker. | 56. R2-D2. | 57. Ukchet. | 58. Uutkik. | 59. Jek Nkik.

 

^ with much more info at https://cantinacustoms.tripod.com/id20.htm

 
 

 
 

• Star Wars - Mos Eisley Scene (Original 1977) - 2 minute youtube video; the lead up to entering the Cantina at Mos Eisley…

• Star Wars Cantina Scenes - Raw Footage (1976) - 3 minute video of raw footage from the Mos Eisley Cantina…

• Special Edition vs Despecialized | ORIGINAL Mos Eisley & Cantina - 5 minute comparison video highlighting the differences…

• How we created the STAR WARS Mos Eisley cantina - 18 minute video from the Nick Maley “that Yoda Guy” youtube channel.

• STAR WARS MOS EISLEY BLOOPERS! - a 10 minute insightful video from the Nick Maley “that Yoda Guy” youtube channel.
 

• Rob Bottin (2012 thread)

• Anyone else preferring the way buildings on Tatooine looked like, before the SE and the Prequels? (2022 thread)

• Nice moves, old man (2023 thread; re Han’s “Nice moves, old man - pretty impressive” line to Ben…)

• The original ending of Ponda Baba (2011 thread)

• Whose arm? (2012 thread; Cantina Scene - with input from Lorne Peterson)

 
 

 
 

 
 

Also of relevance / interest…
 

A ‘mini-index’ of dedicated OT•com threads on the subject of Han vs Greedo / ‘Han Shoots First’ in Star Wars

 
 

 

More scene-specific threads can be found in ‘1️⃣ Ⓑ • Scenes, Dialogue, Tropes, & Meta’ category in the Index for OT Discussion.

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I really like the source music for this in the soundtrack. Described as a Benny Goodman tune. Just called Cantina Band 1 and 2.

Some of the creatures, the ones made as action figures I had as a kid but not the rare Snaggletooth.

All cgi creature redos are garbage. It’s one of the things that irks me about the special edition.

Of course, I also only like Han to be the only one who fires, Greedo shooting first really ruins the Cantina scene.

The old masks and the dirtiness of the bar, the smoke etc said it was a den of iniquity and the perfect place for Ben to hitch an illegal ride off Tatooine. Scum and wretched hive of villainy.

Especially the cartoon cgi in Mos Eisley before they enter the cantina, we didn’t need dinosaurs.

The original used universe of griminess, grit and imperfection seemed real. It’s often overstated but in this case, this is verisimilitude.

I really like the western feel meets Kurosawa when Ben slashes Ponda Baba.

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There’s two new creatures, well, technically just one creatively decorated to look like two distinct characters, which fits in perfectly with the ethos of making a Star Wars film, and it’s a good old fashioned puppet, not CG.

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The scene with the two thugs bothering Luke is probably my favorite scene in all of Star Wars.
“He doesn’t like you!”
“I’m sorry!”
“I don’t like you either!”

It’s just so brilliantly dry. Always cracks me up. Also, Obi-Wan showing his badass side for the first time right after. What’s not to like?

Also: Cantina band 2 is better than 1, even though 1 is more famous. Fight me.

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Just your typical SE rant I’m afraid…

The reason the original cantina scene was so iconic and worked so well was the fact that, prior to entering the cantina itself, there was no evidence of anything particularly exotic or out of the ordinary beyond what we’d already seen in the film at this point - some Jawas, some Stormtroopers, some droids, some vehicles etc. Obi Wan says “…only watch your step, this place can be a little rough…” and then BOOM - it’s a creature fest! It was crazy and funny and sinister all at once, and it was so iconic.

The SEs killed all that IMO. Now Mos Eisley is this massive CGI future city bursting with domes and spaceships and giant dinosaurs etc etc. The whole shock/surprise of entering the multi-creature cantina is dulled by the preamble that is the Mos Eisley special effects extravaganza. It kills the gag.

I think George forgot this. Even when he made RoTJ he was all about how disappointed he was by the cantina in Star Wars and how he’d done it better in Jabba’s palace with ‘more articulated creatures’. But the articulation wasn’t the point - it was all in the timing and mood and surprise element.

Another reason to thank the Force for 4K77, Harmy, this site etc etc…

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^ Spot on, mate. All of it. 👍

 
 

Star Wars Cantina Scenes - Raw Footage (1976)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsKRDKTKIFw - a 3+ minute video form the 70sSciFiBoy youtube channel.
 

The blurb: 'Star Wars Cantina Scenes - Raw Footage (1976). A lot of raw test footage was shot for the Iconic Cantina scene in Star Wars. This video shows a few of the original aliens that didn’t make it into the final cut, as well as Han Solo’s girlfriend “Jenny”.

George Lucas played with a couple of variations to the scene with Walrus man (Ponda Baba) and Ben Kenobi, the other more well known version shows his dismembered arm (with a flipper). The beheading was deemed too severe as it would give Luke a bad impression of Ben.

A longer (but lower quality) version can be found here: • ‘Cantina Raw Footage Star Wars 1977’
 

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I remember the deleted scenes from the behind the magic cd-rom I do remember someone captured them and put them on a DVD in times long ago.
Alternate Greedo footage, i think. Jenny. The black and white was half Kurosawa and half Flash Gordon with temp audio and some silent parts. For the Cantina.

Of course you also had the Biggs meets Luke and the Gang and Luke and the Macrobinoculars. And then the scene of Biggs telling Luke he is joining the rebellion.

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^ Was that on here? That definitely rings a bell (someone ripping the old ‘Behind The Magic’ for additional scenes)…
 

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An informative video - with lots of BTS photos and some interviews from the people worked on the film…

 

The Mos Eisley Cantina | Behind the scenes of the Star Wars Cantina | The Jedi Beat

www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-jPqScS81U - 26 minute video from the ForceCenter youtube channel.
 

The blurb: 'The Mos Eisley Cantina in A New Hope is one of the most iconic Star Wars scenes, and yet, it was almost a disaster. From budget problems to mask ventilation issues, it took a lot of movie magic to make this scene work. So how did the Star Wars production team pull it off? And why has this scene become so beloved amongst fans? On this episode of the Jedi Beat, go behind the scenes of that legendary watering hole in a galaxy far far away!

From the minds of Ken Napzok (comedian, host of The Blathering), Joseph Scrimshaw (comedian, writer, director of Dead Media), and Jennifer Landa (actress, YouTuber, crafter, contributor on StarWars.com) comes the ForceCenter Podcast Feed. Here you will find a series of shows exploring, discussing, and celebrating everything about Star Wars. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts and Google Podcasts. Listen on TuneIn, Stitcher, Spotify, and more!’

^ with timestamps in the youtube description…
 

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benduwan said:

https://youtu.be/J7ygjomkfXQ?si=hFGzLOOxStfiK6xO
https://youtu.be/d1AAd1tsPds?si=CcVYp0DL6ejkh26R

Great minds think alike - or something like that! I was about to post those, too. 😃
 

Star Wars: A New Hope - Cantina Archeology Part 1: Behind The Scenes of the Mos Eisley Cantina - UK - 50 minutes

Star Wars: A New Hope - Cantina Archeology Part 2: Behind The Scenes of the Mos Eisley Cantina - US - 50 minutes

^ both are from The Credible Nerds youtube channel; with Pablo Hidalgo and Tom Spina from their 2017/18 panels. 👍
 

If you find any more similar videos or articles please post them up, mate.
 

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there 2 more about Jedi and Holiday Special too…😃