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Was a fascinating and superb match to watch - the first 20 minutes were great, and I couldn't see Barca getting back into it when they went down to 10 men - but fair play to them, they pulled it back.

3-3 with Messi completing his hat-trick in injury time - not bad for a 19 year old. lol



The commentators reckoned E'too was not best pleased about being subbed and at half time - it seems for club stability alone that he may leave at the end of the season... as a Liverpool fan I wouldn't mind seeing him playing for us

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With the way Wegner's been managing I'm surprised Arsenal are now third in the table with Liverpool creeping up behind them.
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a bad patch going out of so many competitions in a short space of time for the Arsenal - and although thier style of football can often be a joy to watch, the other side of the coin of their sportsmanship and attitude let's them down big time.

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Man United 2 Rovers 1

Arsenal 0 Liverpool 1

Chelsea 2 Watford 0

Spurs 1 Reading 1

I think Man United could win this years UEFA Champion's league
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Some nice forecasting of results there (althuogh I hope your last prediction of Man U winning the CL is wrong


Some troubling and disturbing scenes in the European football this week - hopefully it's a blip and won't be repeated anytime soon.



Predictions for tomorrow:-

Arsenal v West Ham : 2-1 to the Arse

Chelsea v Spurs : 3-1 to the classless Chelsea

Portsmouth v Man U : 1-1 draw

Reading v Liverpool : 0-2 to the 'Pool


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oojason I couldn't help noticing your sig about the hillsborough crisis. Last Saturday was the 18th anniversary for the 96 reds
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Just wanted to recap this scoreline cause its still not hitting home with me.

UCL Semi Final 10/4/07

Manchester United 7 AS Roma 1 (Agg 8:3)

Premier football is dominating europe once again. Hoorah.

Even if AC Milan did make the final they will have to beat a top premiership side to lift the cup now. Although a ManUtd vs LFC final would be a dream climax to the season.

Who is the most foolish, the fool, or the fool which follows it?

Also fought in the clown wars, many years ago…and lost…miserably…

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Originally posted by: Scout trooper
oojason I couldn't help noticing your sig about the hillsborough crisis. Last Saturday was the 18th anniversary for the 96 reds




A memorial service was held at Anfield - home ground of Liverpool Football Club on Sunday. http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/archivedirs/news/2007/apr/16/N155617070416-1035.htm


On a slight tangent here is an update from a mother whose son dies at the Hillsborough Disaster - and has been trying t ofind out the key facts of the events surrounding his death (and 95 others) since:-

"Dear All,

It has been 18 years since 96 people, including my lovely son Kevin, sadly lost their lives at the Hillsborough football disaster and still the fight for justice continues. At the inquests, the Coroner imposed a 3.15 pm cut off time stating that all 96 would have been dead or brain dead by that time, so no evidence was heard after that time when Hillsborough was at its worst.

Over the years I have tracked down everybody who helped Kevin that day and to my horror found out that Kevin was not dead by 3.15pm. He died at 4pm in the arms of a police lady calling for his MUM. When the pathologist explained Kevin’s injuries to the jury, he told them that Kevin was the worst of all the 96. I was horrified as I had said goodbye to Kevin and he looked lovely. He just looked asleep; there were no facial markings on him. I consulted a forensic pathologist who told me Kevin did not die from traumatic asphyxia and would not have been dead or brain dead by 3.15pm. Kevin would have been able to speak the word 'MUM' and he would have survived up till 4pm that day when he died in the arms of the police lady. Kevin could have been saved - all he needed was oxygen.

Kevin did not fit into the 3.15pm cut off time so witness statements were changed. I was told lies about my son’s injuries. I then decided to take the system on. I cannot live with all the lies just to protect their own, what I cannot come to terms with is the way the families of the dead and the survivors have been treated.

Myself and five other families went for a judicial review in 1993 opposing the 3.15pm cut off time for the 96, but we were not successful. My numerous submissions to the Attorney General asking him to give me a new inquest into the death of my son Kevin have been refused.

Roger Cook presented Kevin’s case in a documentary and helped me uncover more of the Hillsborough cover up, including witnesses that had never been called to give evidence either at the Taylor inquiry or the inquests. These witnesses would have been able to tell the jury at the inquests that people were still alive at the 3.15pm cut off point. Tony Edwards, an ambulance man who the police said was never at Hillsborough, was able to tell me how the police cordoned him off at 3.37pm that day when he had orders to go straight to Lapping Lane as there were fatalities. Tony moved through the cordon and went straight to the goal at Lapping Lane. There were 42 ambulances behind him and they did not follow. People were alive and dying at this time. Tony was horrified, he told the fans to take their friends down to the Penn stone end of the ground, as there were ambulances to help their friends.

Myself and the families of the 96 were always led to believe that they could not get ambulances on the ground due to ramps but Tony tells a different tale. The West Midland police had changed the police lady’s statement and suppressed evidence at Kevin’s inquest. When I submitted the new evidence to the Attorney General, I was again refused. The barristers who had waivered their fees many times have always told me that if Kevin gets his inquest then it will open the floodgates.

The new Labour government promised the Hillsborough families a scrutiny into the events of that day. We were told we could submit any new evidence to Judge Stuart Smith and he would send it to the relevant department. Yet again, the families were stitched up and given no answers. The evidence was just twisted and turned. We had reached the end of the road legally, with nowhere to go.

I decided to write a book to let people know what extremes the system would go to cover up their own mistakes and protect the people who were to blame for Hillsborough. This was my justice; I had not failed my son, though the system had. The truth of what they did to Kevin and the other 95 who died with him will always be there.

Then my solicitor contacted me to tell me about the new European ruling ‘The Right to Life’ which related to Kevin’s case. This is what my solicitor, my barrister and I have been pursuing for the past 4 years. Our first move was to submit all the evidence in this country to give them another chance to give us justice; but again the system failed.

On the 12th August this year I submitted all the evidence to the European court of Human Rights under Section 2 of the Human Rights Act, The Right to Life. Kevin died in the hands of the state and is entitled to a thorough investigation into how he died. As the next of kin, I have the right to a full investigation into how my son died, these rights have been repeatedly denied due to the 3.15pm cut off time.

Europe is the last chance for any sort of justice, I have heard from the courts and they are now looking at Kevin’s case. I have sent all the evidence that I have uncovered over the years, evidence from some of the highest forensic pathologists suggesting that Kevin would not have died by 3.15pm and would be alive today if oxygen had been supplied. I have sent evidence that West Midland Police interfered with witness statements and suppressed vital evidence. I tracked all the Liverpool fans that carried Kevin that day, I just hope that Europe will now give us justice.

Anne Williams"



^ After 18 years of police lies; missing, supressed and changed evidence; cover-ups; broken promises from politicians; the lies of the UK gutter press; Justice may just get a chance in the European Courts. Good luck to Anne.


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back on the football...

it should be interesting to see how Chelsea and Man Utd shape up in the final few weeks as they battle for the Premiership title, FA Cup and Champs Lge - will tiredness/suspensions/ injuries hit them hard? Will Liverpool and Milan face each other again in a repeat of the memorable '05 Final? I certainly hope so

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crunch time tonight and tomorrow...

Liverpool are at home to Chelsea in the 2nd leg of the CL semi-final - the 1st leg finished 1-0 to Chelsea.

On Wednesday Man Utd are away to AC Milan - the 1st leg finished 3-2 to Man Utd, though those 2 away goals for Milan may well come into play...


hopefully both will be exciting matches



top sig ScoutTrooper hope we do it tonight - couldn't sleep last night with all the excitement, nerves et all. C'mon the RedMen.


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Milan vs Arsenal

Barca vs Celtic

Man U vs Lyon

Inter vs Liverpool

Sevilla vs fernabache

R. Madrid vs Roma
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