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Welcome! to… The Astronomy thread!

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China’s Tiangong-2 space lab will fall to Earth in 2019

It will be in orbit until July 2019, and then will be controlled to deorbit.

You can track and see when Tiangong-2 will be over your head with the ‘ISS Detector’ app. Get a peek before it turns to dust.

This is borderline experimental

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Quality idea for a thread paja, mate 😃
 

Some of the other astronomy themed threads on here (for those interested in the subject):-

Seas on Mars? (2005 thread)
Pluto is no longer a planet (2006 thread)
Congratulations, Atlantis (2006 thread)
N.A.S.A. NEWS: A “ROAR” FROM OUTER SPACE RECORDED!!!, ORIGIN OF SIGNAL A MYSTERY (2009 thread)
NASA’s Kepler Mission Discovers a World Orbiting Two Stars (2011 thread)
Curiosity landed on Mars! (2012 thread)
Challenger disaster Super 8 home movie footage released (2012 thread)
The Great American Solar Eclipse, 2017
The Space Program (2006 thread)

7/20/69 (2007 thread)
About the moonlandings (2007 thread)
“We copy you down, Eagle” (2012 thread)

Faster than the speed of light (2007 thread)
UFO’s & other anomalies … do you believe? (2007 thread)
Anomalous phenomenon thread (2006 thread)
Meteor explodes over Russia (2013 thread)

 

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I find that answer vague and unconvincing. Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves?
Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? And say something righteous and hopeful for a change?

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dahmage kindly posted this quality link up the other day - well worth a look at…

dahmage said:

https://www.npr.org/2018/09/27/652195624/-enjoy-standing-on-the-surface-of-this-asteroid-via-new-video

^ Some amazing photos and intriguing info in there.

 


 

‘LIGHT SPEED - Star Wars Science’… by HelloGreedo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvlrEq-d5tI

 


 

‘How the Universe is Way Bigger Than You Think’…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy7NzjCmUf0

 


 

‘In pictures: Blood moon around the world’ - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-44985262

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-44991547/blood-moon-delights-most-of-the-world

and a short cool video of it here https://www.instagram.com/p/BlvoOxIlxLL/

 

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I find that answer vague and unconvincing. Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves?
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What’s the deal with the ‘Goblin’ planet?

she/her

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Mrebo said:

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/7x3ed9/darpa-is-researching-quantized-inertia-a-theory-of-physics-many-think-is-pseudoscience

Sounds promising to me. The dark matter theory has always seemed like make-believe science.

Proposing a too-good-to-be-true engine based on an effect that so far could not be proven to exist and violates some of the most well-tested scientific theories doesn’t sound like make-believe science to you?

Now, I don’t want to completely dismiss it, but I wouldn’t call it promising. Best case, it works and we have a cool new propulsion technology and some interesting physics to explore. Worst case, it doesn’t work and this hypothesis is discarded for good. At least noone can say that these kinds of outsider ideas are supressed by the Illuminati or some other BS, so that’s a good thing.

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Frank your Majesty said:

Mrebo said:

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/7x3ed9/darpa-is-researching-quantized-inertia-a-theory-of-physics-many-think-is-pseudoscience

Sounds promising to me. The dark matter theory has always seemed like make-believe science.

Proposing a too-good-to-be-true engine based on an effect that so far could not be proven to exist and violates some of the most well-tested scientific theories doesn’t sound like make-believe science to you?

Now, I don’t want to completely dismiss it, but I wouldn’t call it promising. Best case, it works and we have a cool new propulsion technology and some interesting physics to explore. Worst case, it doesn’t work and this hypothesis is discarded for good. At least noone can say that these kinds of outsider ideas are supressed by the Illuminati or some other BS, so that’s a good thing.

The engine is merely one possible implication. The fact that such an engine has appeared to work is something I’d call promising. I don’t see where a well-tested theory is violated. As I understand it, the theory reconceptualizes the relationship of gravitational and inertial mass which has been heretofore asserted.

Dark matter is a convenient and perhaps not falsifiable theory created out of whole cloth.

As for suppression of science, I think that’s very real if not 100% effective.

The blue elephant in the room.

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The unity of gravitational and inertial mass is a core principle of the theory of relativity, which has been confirmed again and again during the last 100 years.

Sure, new hypotheses are often met with scepticism, but when there is enough evidence, they are eventually adopted. Ironically, people arguing in favor of “alternative” science and against relativity (or quantum mechanics) seem to forget that these theories were first met with the same scepticism, not too long ago, but they passed the tests and prevailed. Time will tell if quantized inertia will do the same, but I wouldn’t bet my money on it.

As for dark matter, I’m by no means an expert, but we already know particles that are influenced by some of the four fundamental forces, but not by others. For example protons interact via the strong force, weak force, electromagnetism and gravity, whereas neutrinos only interact via the weak force and gravity. It doesn’t seem completely implausible to me that there might be a particle that only interacts via gravity, which is exactly what dark matter seems to do.

However, there is one field where I would agree that it’s in a dead end and that is string theory. So far, none of its big predictions came true, but it seems almost too big to admit this and start over, as so many people have already put so much work into it. Instead, they are turning it from a theory of everything to a theory of anything, which is ultimately a theory of nothing.

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Frank your Majesty said:

However, there is one field where I would agree that it’s in a dead end and that is string theory. So far, none of its big predictions came true, but it seems almost too big to admit this and start over, as so many people have already put so much work into it. Instead, they are turning it from a theory of everything to a theory of anything, which is ultimately a theory of nothing.

Reminds me of a certain popular sci-fi and/or fantasy franchise.

TRANSMODERNISM > POSTMODERNISM > MODERNISM > PREMODERNISM

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Astronomers find pairs of black holes at the centers of merging galaxies’…

For the first time, a team of astronomers has observed several pairs of galaxies in the final stages of merging together into single, larger galaxies. Peering through thick walls of gas and dust surrounding the merging galaxies’ messy cores, the research team captured pairs of supermassive black holes—each of which once occupied the center of one of the two original smaller galaxies—drawing closer together before they coalescence into one giant black hole.

https://phys.org/news/2018-11-astronomers-pairs-black-holes-centers.html
 

^ so cool, fascinating and hopefully a lot more intriguing images to come (20 years of Hubble images 😃)
 

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Exoplanet discovered around neighbouring star’…

Astronomers have discovered a planet around one of the closest stars to our Sun.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-46196279
 

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Soyuz Rocket Launch Captured On Incredible Video From ISS’…

https://www.techtimes.com/articles/235726/20181124/look-soyuz-rocket-launch-captured-on-incredible-video-from-iss.htm

& https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouBfzCgXHgk

 

Some cracking and informative videos up on the ESA youtube channel - https://www.youtube.com/user/ESA/videos

and obviously NASA too - https://www.youtube.com/user/NASAtelevision

 


 

Nasa Mars landing: InSight lander nears Red Planet for mission to examine how it formed’…

Lander is space agency’s first attempt to land on Martian surface in six years.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/nasa-mars-insight-landing-red-planet-space-agency-latest-a8651481.html

 

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Live streams of the landing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwMDvPCGeE0 & https://www.nasa.gov/nasalive

^ starts at 2pm ET, 11am PT, and 7pm for the UK, 8pm most of Europe, 6am in Aus.
 

https://twitter.com/nasainsight & https://twitter.com/NASA

https://www.theguardian.com/science/live/2018/nov/26/mars-insight-lander-nasa-probe-live-updates

 


 

1st picture sent back from the InSight Mars landing…

 

2nd picture sent back from the InSight Mars landing…

^ Sorry - couldn’t resist 😉
 

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How do you predict the universe will end? I personally think the Big freeze is the most plausible

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China’s Moon mission sees first seeds sprout

"Seeds taken up to the Moon by China’s Chang’e-4 mission have sprouted, says China National Space Administration.

It marks the first time any biological matter has grown on the Moon, and is being seen as a significant step towards long-term space exploration.

The Chang’e 4 is the first mission to land on and explore the Moon’s far side, facing away from Earth.

It touched down on 3 January, carrying instruments to analyse the region’s geology."

This is borderline experimental

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Possible ‘marsquake’ detected for first time on red planet’…

A Nasa probe has detected and measured what scientists believe to be a “marsquake”, marking the first time a likely seismological tremor has been recorded on another planet, the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in California.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2019/apr/24/possible-marsquake-detected-for-first-time-on-red-planet

&

https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-s-insight-lander-captures-audio-of-first-likely-quake-on-mars (with video)
 

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‘Events Celebrating Apollo’s 50th Anniversary’:-

https://www.nasa.gov : https://www.nasa.gov/specials/apollo50th/events.html : https://twitter.com/NASA : https://twitter.com/NASAMoon : https://twitter.com/NASAhistory : https://www.youtube.com/user/NASAtelevision

 

Some great info on this site, from the Aldrin Family Foundation & The People’s Picture:-

https://thepeoplesmoon.com/50-years

 

BBC info on the 50th anniversary of the Moon landings:-

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/cdx524q7474t/apollo-11-moon-landing

 

as well as the usual helpful wikipedia page:-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_landing
 

 

My voice-over for “CAPCOM GO!” The Apollo Story. Planetarium show celebrating the 50th anniversary of Apollo 11’ thread - by Mielr
 

 

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^ Wow, they are superb pics, and you are right - Reid Wiseman is well worth following on twitter for more interesting images, articles and quality links etc on all things astronomy. Thanks V.I.N.Cent 😃

Tighten Up and then turn it all the way up to 11!