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I still have hope this might be better than TLJ, since it apparently deals with largely unexplored aspects of SW. I think Rian Johnson works better with relatively plastic characters who he can mold in his own fashion (Rey, Kylo, Rose) than when he has to color inside previously established lines (see: the Luke storyline).

I am still worried about the potential for glib, immersion-breaking “shuttle parkers” style humor though. Not to mention half-baked plotlines like the mutiny arising from Holdo’s bizarrely unexplained secretive decision-making.

Hmm, on second thought, maybe I shouldn’t be so hopeful after all.

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I personally thought he poorly juggled Rey, Kylo, Finn, and Rose. Luke in TLJ seemed like one of the few quality aspects of the film. I kinda think he was very scared to mess up Luke’s character and therefore spent a lot of time with that part of the story. Meanwhile, the other newer characters basically got second-rate care. None of these characters got me excited for the next film, unlike in TFA.

That said, I have no solid ill-preconceptions against Rian Johnson. TLJ was a massive undertaking, and from what I understand, the first blockbuster he directed (cause other than that, there’s Looper and a Breaking Bad episode?) So I’m willing to give him another crack at SW film making. Perhaps he will take what experience he had with TLJ and improve with his trilogy.

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ChainsawAsh said:

Fang Zei said:

They said in the official announcement that this won’t be Episodes X, XI, and XII.

Right, but I 100% guarantee you that Episodes X, XI, and XII are coming after Johnson’s trilogy is finished.

I doubt it. TROS is supposed to finish the Skywalker saga and I think the best follow-up to that would be to go back to the ancient Jedi, before they were the jaded Old Republic Jedi of the PT. It would be the best way to show what happens next while not revisiting the Skywalker saga. I think some classic Jedi from a thousand years before ANH would be awesome and give them a fresh start at the same time.

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You’re saying that after two full trilogies (Benioff & Weiss’ and then Johnson’s), you honestly believe they won’t jump into X-XII?

The numbered saga will never be over. But every third numbered saga film will always be advertised as if it’s the very last one. It’s only a matter of how much time they go in between IX and X, then XII and XIII, then XV and XVI, then XVIII and XIX…

I honestly believe that thinking this isn’t going to be the case is naive.

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ChainsawAsh said:

You’re saying that after two full trilogies (Benioff & Weiss’ and then Johnson’s), you honestly believe they won’t jump into X-XII?

The numbered saga will never be over. But every third numbered saga film will always be advertised as if it’s the very last one. It’s only a matter of how much time they go in between IX and X, then XII and XIII, then XV and XVI, then XVIII and XIX…

I honestly believe that thinking this isn’t going to be the case is naive.

I’m sure you’re right, but I hope they at least wait 15-20 years between each trilogy so that each generation can have ‘their’ nostalgic version of Star Wars.

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That’s best case scenario, yes. And if they wait for D&D’s trilogy to be over (2022, 2024, 2026), and then then do Johnson’s trilogy (let’s say 2028, 2030, 2032), that would mean Episode X comes out in 2034 at the earliest, 19 years after Episode VII kicked off the ST, which itself was 16 years after Episode I began the PT.

That’s assuming they stick to an every-other-year cycle, don’t overlap trilogies, and don’t do standalone movies. If they do one per year and overlap trilogies, Episode X could be as soon as 2028, which is 13 years after VII.

My best guess would be to expect Episode X to come out sometime between 2030 and 2035, and we’ll have until at least 2027 (the 50th anniversary year) for them to pretend IX is really the end before they announce the next numbered trilogy.

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Why are Star Wars fans always so cynical? I don’t think Disney will make a 4th trilogy, they wouldn’t be that lazy.

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Star Wars has grown bigger under Disney, and so has the fan base. Plus look where you’re at on the internet. The whole premise behind this forum built on the presumed cynicism that George Lucas, for its time, and Disney will never release a quality set of the unaltered trilogy. A yearning to return to a time of sweet nostalgia, but yet denied from The Maker. All this baggage Star Wars carries amounts to more cynicism, pervading across years and generations.
Of course, thankfully, technology caught up to allow the fans control over the recovery of what was.

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StarkillerAG said:

Why are Star Wars fans always so cynical? I don’t think Disney will make a 4th trilogy, they wouldn’t be that lazy.

They 100% would be, and are, that lazy. Just look at all the live action remakes of classic animated films in recent years for proof of that.

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The people behind the live action remakes are different than the people behind Lucasfilm. One of the most common misconceptions from Disney Star Wars haters is the idea that Disney is a monolithic entertainment organization where every movie is produced by the same 5 people. In reality, Lucasfilm and Marvel are pretty separate from mainstream Disney.

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I’m just thankful we’re getting the ST, similarities to the OT and all. Imagine an alternate reality, where Disney agreed with Lucas that Star Wars is six movies, and instead decided to flat-out reboot the OT. Considering what’s happened to their animated films, it was totally plausible.

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I still think they’ll do it eventually.

75th anniversary, maybe. If they can wait that long. 60th is probably a better bet.

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StarkillerAG said:

The people behind the live action remakes are different than the people behind Lucasfilm. One of the most common misconceptions from Disney Star Wars haters is the idea that Disney is a monolithic entertainment organization where every movie is produced by the same 5 people. In reality, Lucasfilm and Marvel are pretty separate from mainstream Disney.

Just to be clear, I said that as a direct response to you saying Disney wouldn’t do it because Disney isn’t lazy:

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Why are Star Wars fans always so cynical? I don’t think Disney will make a 4th trilogy, they wouldn’t be that lazy.

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When I said Disney, I was referring to Lucasfilm specifically. Guess I fell victim to that misconception too. 😉

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Johnson’s trilogy will never happen. Disney is not that stupid.

This guy has completely polarized the fanbase like no other.

It’s worse than the backlash against the PT and Abrams hiring combined.

Movies are done for the time being after TROS.

They have high hopes for The Mandalorian and the Obi-Wan series. They are less sure about the Cassian series.

And they know fans want more Clone Wars.

As far as Star Wars being bigger than ever, well, that is b.s.

Solo was a colossal flop mostly due to TLJ backlash.
Toy and EU merchandise money is way down.
Galaxy’s Edge is not going as well as they initially hoped.
And they are worried about TROS. They feel like they have lost a sizable chunk of the fanbase forever.

Trust me. I am in this world and I own a ton of Disney stock. I specialize in currency arbitrage, but I know the common stock and commodities markets just as well. In fact, Disney is under suspicion for lying about their profits.

If anything, they will go with those Game of Thrones guys for any future movies. At some point, we will wake up to find that Disney and Johnson have parted company.

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^ mate, this is a thread for Rian Johnson’s new Star Wars Trilogy - not to bash on Disney, TLJ, RJ, parks etc; there are several other threads which address and discuss those issues on here.

Though, if you are going to post claims such as this (which seemingly reads like something you picked up from a negative youtube video channel) please post them in a more relevant thread. Though be prepared to be asked for some facts or evidence to back your claims up - or to give credence to them.
 

In the interests of balance… a random recourse to similar claims you have made in here, yet taken from another thread…

Rodney-2187 said:

Two movies in the top 10 all-time domestic box office list and a third at #12 is tanking? I bet a lot of people wish they could tank like that.

1.The Force Awakens - $936,662,225

2.Avengers: Endgame - $858,041,646

9.The Last Jedi - $620,181,382

12.Rogue One - $532,177,324

Plus, a new streaming service with various new and made-for Star Wars content, 2 new film trilogies, theme parks, hotels, rides, considerable new animated content aimed at younger fans, new blu ray film releases, rumoured 4K releases, more comics and books released, games too, as well as a range of merchandise aimed for wider groups of fans than ever before…

Disney also recouped it’s outlay to purchase Lucasfilm a year or so ago from cinema takings of the film revenue alone…

A small, but vocal corner of fandom online may not like a new film or two (or have issues with the supposed direction) - though seems the franchise itself is doing just fine (racist, sexist, homophobic trolls, bots, troll farms, toxicity and monetised agenda-led clickbait apart).
 

On Rian Johnson himself… he delivered a main Saga film seemingly without the production issues suffered on some other Star Wars films, on budget, on time, which made a $1.3billion on cinema tickets alone worldwide, and sold 3 million blu rays & 1 million DVDs in the US alone in 7 months. Disney seem so impressed with his work and abilities that they have trusted him to come up with a new & separate Star Wars Trilogy…

Nothing much has changed since - though some information about the new trilogy would be most welcome 😉

 

Now back on topic…
 

A little patience goes a long way on this old-school Rebel base. If you are having issues finding what you are looking for, these will be of some help…

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… and take your time to look around this site before posting - to get a feel for this place. Don’t just lazily make yet another thread asking for projects.

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Darth Hade said:

Johnson’s trilogy will never happen. Disney is not that stupid.

This guy has completely polarized the fanbase like no other.

It’s worse than the backlash against the PT and Abrams hiring combined.

Movies are done for the time being after TROS.

They have high hopes for The Mandalorian and the Obi-Wan series. They are less sure about the Cassian series.

And they know fans want more Clone Wars.

As far as Star Wars being bigger than ever, well, that is b.s.

Solo was a colossal flop mostly due to TLJ backlash.
Toy and EU merchandise money is way down.
Galaxy’s Edge is not going as well as they initially hoped.
And they are worried about TROS. They feel like they have lost a sizable chunk of the fanbase forever.

Trust me. I am in this world and I own a ton of Disney stock. I specialize in currency arbitrage, but I know the common stock and commodities markets just as well. In fact, Disney is under suspicion for lying about their profits.

If anything, they will go with those Game of Thrones guys for any future movies. At some point, we will wake up to find that Disney and Johnson have parted company.

You own Disney stock? Why aren’t you representing this forum’s interests at stockholder meetings? 😉

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After TROS I am looking forward to this 😄

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Oh my god this will be awful if it ever comes out.

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He is incredibly busy so much so he hasn’t been able to direct any of the Disney plus shows. I doubt this trilogy ever happens, or not at least until Knives out 3 is released.

Its about as certain as episodes X, XI and XII. and i’d bet more on that happening than Rian’s trilogy.

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Rian Johnson’s trilogy not happening would be a real tragedy, because unlike other writers/directors working at Lucasfilm, he’s not interested in appealing to fan nostalgia and actually wants to explore new concepts.