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I’m out of off-topic for a little while, and everyone gets delusions of grandeur.

Seriously though, I have no idea what’s going on here, and I don’t know if I want to know. From what I understand, it seems like Oojason came back just to randomly ban Handman? I don’t remember Handman doing anything wrong, so this seems really weird to me.

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Read a little further back in the thread. And oojason’s post.

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I personally don’t wanna know.

I’m just a simple man trying to make my way in the universe.

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It doesn’t matter if it is someone who we know, like, are a friend, or is someone we don’t know… members get treated the same on here. If it were Fated, Gonk or anyone else who had posted what Handman did they would be having a couple of weeks off instead. Though I have a feeling if it had been one of them (or another member) had been temp-banned for that… there wouldn’t be much posting about it in here.

Yet it is nice to see so many old familiar faces on here again - though I was expecting a few more.

As for it being a ‘rage ban’… no, never done that before in my time here, and haven’t started now. Decisions are measured, thought through, and certainly not taken lightly. They may not be popular, they may even appear harsh, or wrong, the mods may not even want to have to do it, but they are never done in ‘rage’, anger, or somehow riled up (lol), or anything like it - whether for a temporary or perma-ban. This was quite a simple straight-forward temp-ban in comparison to others.

Huh, it seems I’m still a mod on here, afterall. And due to the change in circumstances and in slight alteration to my plan in my previous post… I’ll now be around the site as and when.
 

Happy Christmas everyone.
 

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oojason said:

Huh, it seems I’m still a mod on here, afterall. And due to the change in circumstances and in slight alteration to my plan in my previous post… I’ll now be around the site as and when.

Well, if this is the case, then I won’t be. If this is how the site is being run now, I want no fucking part of it. Mods can step down as mods, leave the site, then unilaterally decide to come back and ban someone they don’t like as part of a personal vendetta? Fuck that.

Bye everybody.

Go fuck yourself, oojason. And all your friends sock accounts.

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ChainsawAsh said:

Mods can step down as mods, leave the site, then unilaterally decide to come back and ban someone they don’t like as part of a personal vendetta?

I’m no part of the dispute, but this seems like twisting the truth a hell of a lot. It doesn’t have to be part of a personal grudge, I think Handman was way out of line in how he spoke to Fated Duelist. I’d want mod action if someone spoke to me that way.

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Fated dualist is one of oojasons socks.

There are many. The mods have ignored this problem for months. I brought it up to them in private in September but they did nothing, aside from tell Jason and then he in turn pm’ed me with a long-winded accusation.

So pathetic, the mods don’t care about the site anymore. That’s the only conclusion that I can draw.

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ChainsawAsh said:

oojason said:

Huh, it seems I’m still a mod on here, afterall. And due to the change in circumstances and in slight alteration to my plan in my previous post… I’ll now be around the site as and when.

Well, if this is the case, then I won’t be. If this is how the site is being run now, I want no fucking part of it. Mods can step down as mods, leave the site, then unilaterally decide to come back and ban someone they don’t like as part of a personal vendetta? Fuck that.

Bye everybody.

Go fuck yourself, oojason. And all your friends sock accounts.

Hey Ash,

I am genuinely sorry to read that.

A ‘personal vendetta?’ - as stated before I like Handman (not that it matters) - and everyone is treated the same on here. If anyone else had posted what Handman had they’d be having a couple of weeks off instead. I am not sure where you are getting the accusation of ‘personal vendetta’ from my actions on this issue, not the ‘sock’ accusations, maybe it is an attempt to deflect away from Handman’s posts.

Let’s not pretend this isn’t the first time you’ve taken shots at the site or me (and also looking for reasons take further aim at us; even my multiple apologies for your previous grievances were not to your liking).

When talking about ‘personal vendettas’ and festering issues,… then you may wish to take a look in the mirror.
 

^ (sent by a concerned member). Going on that screenshot, it seems you haven’t liked how this place has been run for a long time.

“Fuck that place”, & “Go fuck yourself, oojason” indeed.

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dahmage said:

Fated dualist is one of oojasons socks.

There are many. The mods have ignored this problem for months. I brought it up to them in private in October but they did nothing, aside from tell Jason and then he in turn pm’ed me with a long-winded accusation.

So pathetic, the mods don’t care about the site anymore. That’s the only conclusion that I can draw.

It is strange how nearly all your sock accusations have been members on here speaking up for the site, or vs trolls and wums - for example vs ‘eviloojason’ or ‘imp-ardni’ troll accounts (amongst others) some time ago.

I PMd you with questions not long after your accusations (twice I think?), to which you left the conversations each time. If you have been on the site you mentioned where you alluded to it could be ‘oojason’s friends from there’ (and you probably have) you’d know that Fated is certainly not a sock.

As Wook stated before don’t accuse others of being socks - it against site rules, yet you know that.

As also stated to you before, I don’t have socks - just people looking for dirt, stalkers, and other people who throw mud apparently.
 

Accusing the mods of not caring? You seemingly have no idea on the work, time and effort they put in to keep this site going and the stuff they deal with. And it is not the first time someone in your group has made that accusation.

Honestly, it seem you are only here of late to post shite or snark at the site, mods or me.

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oojason said:

Accusing the mods of not caring? You seemingly have no idea on the work, time and effort they put in to keep this site going and the stuff they deal with. And it is not the first time someone in your group has made that accusation.

Honestly, it seem you are only here of late to post shite at the site, mods or me.

Please stop twisting people’s words. I said the only conclusion I can draw is they Don’t care anymore. That means they did care at one point and I certainly acknowledge that Silverwook put tons of time into this site.

But they clearly don’t anymore, You’re the only mod filling this site with posts and banning people.

And it probably seems like I’m only here when things blow up with you, but that’s probably because I’m waiting for the other mods to do something about you, before this site is worth returning to.

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dahmage said:

oojason said:

Accusing the mods of not caring? You seemingly have no idea on the work, time and effort they put in to keep this site going and the stuff they deal with. And it is not the first time someone in your group has made that accusation.

Honestly, it seem you are only here of late to post shite at the site, mods or me.

Please stop twisting people’s words. I said the only conclusion I can draw is they Don’t care anymore. That means they did care at one point and I certainly acknowledge that Silverwook put tons of time into this site.

But they clearly don’t anymore, You’re the only mod filling this site with posts and banning people.

And it probably seems like I’m only here when things blow up with you, but that’s probably because I’m waiting for the other mods to do something about you, before this site is worth returning to.

No twisting of words - they are there for all to see.

Still on the sock accusations, eh? Despite your previous acknowledgement to the mods they could well be ‘oojason’s friends from there’ etc - of which you know at least one member on here is (but for some reason you don’t want to talk about).

Nice ignoring of the reminder / warning not to accuse people of having socks on here (it is against the rules).

Parhaps you can contact the mods with an apology when you deem this site worthy of returning to (that’ll be without your continuing ‘sock’ accusations, accusations of ‘rage bans’, snark and digs at the mods on here).

As you are seemingly angling for a ban on here with the ongoing sock accusations and mud slinging, you can have one. Seemingly it is some sort of badge of honour for some?

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oojason said:

Huh, it seems I’m still a mod on here, afterall. And due to the change in circumstances and in slight alteration to my plan in my previous post… I’ll now be around the site as and when.

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What a wonderful sight to wake up to. oojason giving out negative waves like they’re candy.

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SONIC RACES THROUGH THE GREEN FIELDS.
THE SUN RACES THROUGH A BLUE SKY FILLED WITH WHITE CLOUDS.
THE WAYS OF HIS HEART ARE MUCH LIKE THE SUN. SONIC RUNS AND RESTS; THE SUN RISES AND SETS.
DON’T GIVE UP ON THE SUN. DON’T MAKE THE SUN LAUGH AT YOU.

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Dek Rollins said:

What a wonderful sight to wake up to. oojason giving out negative waves like they’re candy.

"Pleasure’s fun. It’s great, but you can’t keep it going forever; just accept the fact that it’s here and it’s gone, and maybe then again, it will come back, and you’ll get to do it again. Joy lasts forever. Pleasure is purely self-centered. It’s all about your pleasure: it’s about you. It’s a selfish, self-centered emotion, that is created by a self-centered motive of greed. Joy is compassion. Joy is giving yourself to somebody else, or something else. And it’s a kind of thing that is, in its subtlety and lowness, much more powerful than pleasure. You get hung up on pleasure; you’re doomed. If you pursue joy; you will find everlasting happiness.” - George Lucas

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Stardust1138 said:

Dek Rollins said:

What a wonderful sight to wake up to. oojason giving out negative waves like they’re candy.

Just to clarify, that isn’t a good thing.

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Dek Rollins said:

Stardust1138 said:

Dek Rollins said:

What a wonderful sight to wake up to. oojason giving out negative waves like they’re candy.

Just to clarify, that isn’t a good thing.

Oh, it’s not. Just a bit of bad sarcasm on my part.

Have a lovely Christmas!

"Pleasure’s fun. It’s great, but you can’t keep it going forever; just accept the fact that it’s here and it’s gone, and maybe then again, it will come back, and you’ll get to do it again. Joy lasts forever. Pleasure is purely self-centered. It’s all about your pleasure: it’s about you. It’s a selfish, self-centered emotion, that is created by a self-centered motive of greed. Joy is compassion. Joy is giving yourself to somebody else, or something else. And it’s a kind of thing that is, in its subtlety and lowness, much more powerful than pleasure. You get hung up on pleasure; you’re doomed. If you pursue joy; you will find everlasting happiness.” - George Lucas

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ChainsawAsh said:

oojason said:

Huh, it seems I’m still a mod on here, afterall. And due to the change in circumstances and in slight alteration to my plan in my previous post… I’ll now be around the site as and when.

Well, if this is the case, then I won’t be. If this is how the site is being run now, I want no fucking part of it. Mods can step down as mods, leave the site, then unilaterally decide to come back and ban someone they don’t like as part of a personal vendetta? Fuck that.

Bye everybody.

Go fuck yourself, oojason. And all your friends sock accounts.

Was disappointed to see Ash banned when I tried to send him a PM about my edit. Granted, I’ve only occasionally lurked off topic these past few years as it’s not nearly as active as it’s once been, so I’m not super caught up, but this seems like an alarming turn of events. Would be nice to see some transparency from the staff team about how they’re running things. It’s one thing to ban bots, troll accounts, etc, but when you start banning people like Ash who actually materially contribute to the projects that people come to this site for, that’s a cause for concern. In all the years Ash has been on this site, I’ve never known him to be anything other than an upstanding poster. If he’s making such accusations, I personally would take them seriously.

It seems like it’s a common bit of confusion around these parts in regards to oojason’s status and whether other accounts are associated with him or not. Surely there’s some way to check IP addresses and put this matter to bed once and for all? It’s a shame to see mod drama get in the way of the forum itself. This site has been a fantastic resource for connecting with a smart and collaborative community of creative people. It’s sad to see that be put aside for what seems like petty reasons.

I mean, I gotta admit I’m really confused here. Obviously Ash saying “go fuck yourself” is against the rules, but what did dahmage do exactly? Is merely complaining about a mod (who wasn’t even supposed to be a mod or even be here?) against the rules now? Am I about to get banned for this post? If so, could you please let me know ahead of time so I can relocate my project, I’m in the middle of getting feedback on my workprint right now so it’d be unfortunate to get locked out.

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Nobody is getting banned on Christmas. I will have more to say on recent events later. In the meantime…
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Damn…

This place… is on fire…

Not in a good way…

Goddamn…

I’m…What?

Well, after all, I don’t have the skull and cross bones avatar for nothing, so…

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I felt like I understood what is going on slightly more, but just when I thought I did, the Great Purge of 2018 happened all over again. From being on the internet for long enough, it seems like the natural life cycle of an internet forum is for the mods and the users to turn on each other.

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StarkillerAG said:

From being on the internet for long enough, it seems like the natural life cycle of an internet forum is for the mods and the users to turn on each other.

The inconvenient truth, we can’t just solely blame one or the other, obviously I’m not privy to the reasons behind all the tension but I have been on niche internet communities before and they seem to turn sour when either side isn’t kept in check, hope the community can handle it and carry on with as little bitterness as possible. The members I’ve interacted with here mods included have all been pretty cordial and level headed, if a bit passionate at times. Hope everyone, mod or user, banned or unbanned, can have a happy remainder of their holidays!

Merry Christmas everyone, wherever you all are!

“The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force.” - DV

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Whoa, what the hell happened in here? I usually end up blissfully unaware of most of this kind of drama.
I don’t know who’s lying and have no way to be able to.

I’ll look forward to SilverWook’s thoughts with hope, but it’s been shit losing some of our good old-timers recently.

Well done. I will disengage self-destruct initiative.