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Today is Life Day and the 43rd anniversary of the Holiday Special.

Happy Life Day everyone.

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Star Wars Holiday Special - Full Movie with RiffTrax jokes - Upgraded SWHS Video for Life Day’:-

www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyykN8e_WXw - a 1 hour and 44 minute video at the official RiffTrax youtube channel.
 

The blurb:-

‘LIFE DAY As seen on TV - Star Wars Holiday Special with Commercials! Young Mark Hamil, Carrie Fisher, Harrison Ford and LUMPY - www.rifftrax.com/the-star-wars-holiday-special

 

Just Released: The Star Wars Holiday Special RiffTrax! 2007 OT•com thread : IMDB : TVTropes : Twitter : Website

 
 


 

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If Pablo is inferring there is a ‘high quality’ version of the Holiday Special in their archives… then hopefully one day we’ll see it up on Disney+. After all, there is not much point in such a version being kept in there and remaining unseen by the fans…

We already have a master tape copy, I don’t think it gets much higher quality than that.
Your average Joe is probably used to seeing 7th generation copies.

It seems some additional work may have been done to The Holiday Special…

As well as the article below, this also may be of some interest - https://twitter.com/nickytea/status/1459090754018504709

 

Disney+ Releases First Official Footage Of Star Wars Holiday Special (In HD)’:-

Disney+ releases their first official footage of the infamous Star Wars Holiday Special, upgrading the original movie to high definition quality.

https://screenrant.com/star-wars-holiday-special-hd-footage-watch-online
 

‘Both sets of footage are interspersed with George Lucas reflecting on the special, saying, “they were doing this Holiday Special, and there wasn’t much of our involvement.”’
 

^ as stated in the article… despite George Lucas always seemingly trying to distance himself from his involvement in the 1978 Holiday Special… yet George himself did write a six page treatment for it.

 


 

Some general further reading (including contributions from George himself - before he “had walked away from it”)

The Dark Side: An Oral History of The Star Wars Holiday Special’:-

www.mentalfloss.com/article/72863/dark-side-oral-history-star-wars-holiday-special
 

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Maybe a bit of an unpopular opinion, but I actually enjoy the Holiday Special. I wouldn’t say it’s good or bad, it’s just weird. When I watch it I do genuinely find enjoyment out of it.

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A Disturbance in the Force, a new documentary on the making of the 1978 Star Wars Holiday Special, airs soon:

https://comicbook.com/starwars/news/star-wars-holiday-special-documentary-disturbance-in-the-force-premiere-sxsw/
 

"A documentary diving into how the infamous The Star Wars Holiday Special came to life has been in the works for years, with the first details of this year’s South by Southwest Film Festival selections confirming that A Disturbance in the Force is set to make its world premiere at the event. At this rate, it’s currently unknown if the documentary will make its premiere at SXSW and then be made available widely or if it will play the festival circuit in the coming months, though with announcements about the project dating back years, knowing that the film is getting any public release is exciting news for Star Wars fans. The South by Southwest Film Festival will kick off on March 10th.

The film is described, “In 1977, Star Wars became a cultural phenomenon that single-handedly revitalized a stagnant film industry, and forever changed how films were sold, made, and marketed. Movies would never be the same again. A year later, neither would television. In 1978, CBS aired the two-hour Star Wars Holiday Special during the week of Thanksgiving and was watched by 13 million people. It never re-aired. While some fans of the franchise are aware of this dark secret, this bizarre two hours of television still remains relatively unknown among the general public. Simply put, we will answer how and why did the Holiday Special get made.”

Talent featured in the documentary includes Seth Green, Weird Al Yankovic, Taran Killam, Gilbert Gottfried, Bonnie Burton, Paul Scheer, Bruce Vilanch, Lenny Ripps, Donny Osmond, and Miki Herman. A Disturbance in the Force was directed by Jeremy Coon and Steve Kozak, who also serve as producers, as do Adam F. Goldberg and Kyle Newman.

The Star Wars Holiday Special is one of the most infamous relics from the galaxy far, far away, largely due to how obscure the project was for years, as it was only available through bootleg VHS tapes. Thanks to the Internet, the Special has been discovered by countless fans, with official Star Wars creatives even incorporating elements from the Special into official Star Wars canon. Still, Lucasfilm has been quite adamant that it will never release the Special in any official capacity on any platform."
 

This new documentary must surely be more fun to watch than the Holiday Special itself?! I am kind of intrigued by this doc. Not enough to actually watch the Holiday Special again, but it could be amusing and may turn up something new on it.

The Imperial need for control is so desperate because it is so unnatural. Tyranny requires constant effort. It breaks, it leaks. Authority is brittle. Oppression is the mask of fear.

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I just watched the Holiday Special. It has 3 major problems. Well 4. For one it is 1978 TV quality. But the other 3 are more integral. 1st, the Wookie scenes are in Wookie and not subtitled. 2nd, the musical numbers are very dated. 3rd Harvey Corman. Love him in a good comedy sketch, but he was so very wrong for this. In a perfect world where we could see an official SE of this, I would remove 2 of Harvey Corman’s characters and replace them with something modern but retro. Same with the music. And subtitle the Wookie scenes so the audience knows what they are talking about. And redo the horrible animation for the Boba Fett cartoon. Do that and it could be a charming little show, but as it is, it is mostly a horror that you had to live through to appreciate.

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You could film a new series where Lumpy is much older now and he’s on Kashyyyk and we come across things we saw in Jedi Fallen Order, but it’s all worn down and falling apart. A boy goes missing and Lumpy begins his search for him. He could run across something that he wasn’t supposed to see as he tries to find the boy. The boy leaves clues behind as Lumpy follows close by. It is close to Life Day and he must find this boy.

Lumpy saves the boy after this amazing adventure they both go on. When the two finally reach home we see the Falcon land and Han Solo disembarks the Falcon down the ramp, as the boy runs up to him and calls him Dad. Chewbacca follows Han Solo from the Falcon and Lumpy gives his father a big hug.

Han Solo would be a body double just like Luke Skywalker in Mandalorian. They all celebrate Life Day and Han Solo tells Ben they need to get back home because his mom is worried about him. We watch Han, Chewie and Ben Solo take off at dusk on the Falcon and once in space go to light speed.

Something like this using previous things we’ve seen before and some special effects. I think it would be an interesting Holiday Special sequel story and as a backstory for Ben Solo.

You could even have Snoke making his first contact with Ben Solo.

I don’t know. What do you think?

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The trailer for the “A Disturbance in the Force - Trailer: Star Wars Holiday Special Documentary”:
 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtkpVWeWN-Q (90+ seconds, at IGN Movie Trailers)
 

official synopsis:

“In 1977, “Star Wars” became a cultural phenomenon that single-handedly revitalized a stagnant film industry, and forever changed how films were sold, made, and marketed. Movies would never be the same again. A year later, neither would television. In 1978, CBS aired the two-hour “Star Wars Holiday Special” during the week of Thanksgiving and was watched by 13 million people. It never re-aired. While some fans of the franchise are aware of this dark secret, this bizarre two hours of television still remains relatively unknown among the general public. Simply put, we will answer how and why did the “Holiday Special” get made.”
 

https://www.slashfilm.com/1216168/a-disturbance-in-the-force-trailer-new-doc-looks-back-at-the-maligned-star-wars-holiday-special

‘A Disturbance in the Force" does not yet have a release date, but look for some initial reactions and possibly some news on that front following its premiere at SXSW next week.’ (it premieres at SXSW on the March 11)
 

I am actually looking forward to watching this when it gets released! I have no idea why, maybe nostalgia goggles and that it may be fun?
 

There is even a poster for this on the documentary website at https://www.holidayspecialdoc.com

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An exclusive interview with the two directors of A Disturbance in the Force:

https://www.slashfilm.com/1223532/a-disturbance-in-the-force-directors-uncover-the-secrets-of-the-star-wars-holiday-special-exclusive-interview
 

Some reviews of A Disturbance in the Force, from the SXSW screening:

https://variety.com/2023/film/reviews/a-disturbance-in-the-force-review-1235550643
https://www.indiewire.com/2023/03/a-disturbance-in-the-force-review-star-wars-holiday-special-doc-1234817622
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-reviews/a-disturbance-in-the-force-review-star-wars-1235348343
https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/star-wars-holiday-special-truth-disturbance-in-the-force
https://www.slashfilm.com/1225169/a-disturbance-in-the-force-review-a-star-wars-holiday-special-doc-sxsw
https://www.thedailybeast.com/obsessed/new-sxsw-doc-reveals-secrets-behind-star-wars-awful-holiday-special
https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-reviews/star-wars-holiday-special-a-disturbance-in-the-force-sxsw-doc-george-lucas-harrison-ford-variety-show-1234692639
 

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Another AI HD remaster of The Holiday Special up on YouTube:
 

The Star Wars Holiday Special 1978 HD Remaster - 1080p60fps AI Restoration

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAG3uAIF-Rc - an 89 minute video at the UE Media YouTube channel.
 

"This video was upscaled and cleaned up with AI programs.

DISNEY BLOCKED THE BOBA FETT CARTOON PART

The Star Wars Holiday Special is a 1978 American television special that originally aired on November 17, 1978, on CBS. It is set in the universe of the sci-fi-based Star Wars media franchise. Directed by Steve Binder, it was the first Star Wars spin-off film, set between the events of the original film and The Empire Strikes Back (1980). It stars the main cast of the original Star Wars and introduces the character of Boba Fett, who appeared in later films.

In the storyline that ties the special together, Chewbacca and Han Solo attempt to visit the Wookiee home planet of Kashyyyk to celebrate “Life Day”. The special introduces three members of Chewbacca’s family: his father Itchy, his wife Malla, and his son Lumpy.

The special is notorious for its extremely negative reception and has never been rebroadcast nor officially released on home video."

“Don’t tell anyone… but when ‘Star Wars’ first came out, I didn’t know where it was going either. The trick is to pretend you’ve planned the whole thing out in advance. Throw in some father issues and references to other stories - let’s call them homages - and you’ve got a series.” - George Lucas

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LOL it’s still awful. I wonder why they kept it looking like a TV broadcast with the frame rate, is that more authentic?

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Mocata said:

LOL it’s still awful. I wonder why they kept it looking like a TV broadcast with the frame rate, is that more authentic?

I couldn’t watch more than 5 minutes of it. It looks all “nice and sharp”, but I know nothing about preservations or AI upgrades.

I do know 5 minutes is usually how long it takes of watching the Holiday Special before I have to switch it off! 😃

“Don’t tell anyone… but when ‘Star Wars’ first came out, I didn’t know where it was going either. The trick is to pretend you’ve planned the whole thing out in advance. Throw in some father issues and references to other stories - let’s call them homages - and you’ve got a series.” - George Lucas

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Sideburns of BoShek said:

Mocata said:

LOL it’s still awful. I wonder why they kept it looking like a TV broadcast with the frame rate, is that more authentic?

I couldn’t watch more than 5 minutes of it. It looks all “nice and sharp”, but I know nothing about preservations or AI upgrades.

I do know 5 minutes is usually how long it takes of watching the Holiday Special before I have to switch it off! 😃

Ha! I’m the same, I can’t remember the last time I sat down and watched the Holiday Special in one sitting. 5-10 minutes of various parts, sure. And the animated Boba Fett segment is still cool to watch every now and then.

The Imperial need for control is so desperate because it is so unnatural. Tyranny requires constant effort. It breaks, it leaks. Authority is brittle. Oppression is the mask of fear.

Formerly Emre1601 - computer hard drives are brittle too!

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That upscale really brings out the layers of pancake makeup on Mark Hamill’s face.

“The Anarchists are right in everything; in the negation of the existing order and in the assertion that, without Authority there could not be worse violence than that of Authority under existing conditions. They are mistaken only in thinking that anarchy can be instituted by a violent revolution… There can be only one permanent revolution — a moral one: the regeneration of the inner man. How is this revolution to take place? Nobody knows how it will take place in humanity, but every man feels it clearly in himself. And yet in our world everybody thinks of changing humanity, and nobody thinks of changing himself.”

― Leo Tolstoy

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I’ve only ever been able to watch the entire thing once. Reading about the production of it and watching reviews of it is much more fun (the Red Letter Media review of it is hilarious for example). Whenever people ask me about it I always warn them not to watch it.
I am very interested in that documentary. I’m not sure when they’re releasing it, but the production history of that thing is so fascinating to me.
I love that when Harrison Ford was asked whether he’d seen it, he said “I was there, man. I didn’t have to see it.”

All his life has he looked away… to the future, to the horizon. Never his mind on where he was. Hmm? What he was doing. Hmph!

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The local hipster video store had this around 2005, even with a homemade ad for the store at the start of the tape. It was cool. All through the 90s I heard how bad the special was, but it’s kind of innocuous and “is what it is.” Bea Arthur’s cantina song is pretty good actually.

I haven’t seen this recent upscale but previous ones gave it a thick lined look like video game upscalers, which is fine for animation but unrealistic for photo sources. Is this one better? And the frame rate should probably be 30/1.01 if it’s changed to progressive scan; 60/1.01 might be fine but double frames unless the intermediary frames are faked by the AI. If it’s changed to pure 60 there could be stuttering. If someone took the care for SW Holiday Special like the Ds9 upscale guy, there might be some impressive results.

JFS