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The Empire Strikes Back - a general Random Thoughts thread — Page 3

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Of all the SE changes, why didn’t LFL get Dennis Lawson to redub his ANH and ESB lines? He worked with them for the Rogue Squadron games, so why not get him to quickly do his bits from those two movies? Heck, it could even put an end to “fake Wedge!”

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Denis Lawson sounded awful in the Rogue Squadron games. There would be no reason to re-dub Wedge’s (somewhat iconic) lines from SW and ESB with middle-aged Denis Lawson giving a vocal performance akin to Temuera Morrison in '04 ESB. Even by George’s special edition standards, Wedge’s original voice dub doesn’t create any supposed continuity problems with future installments.

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Dek Rollins said:

There would be no reason

That’s usually the starting point for LFL.

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Chase Adams said:

Just realised that Boba Fett is the only character in ESB who wins.

What about Veers, who won the Battle of Hoth?

Or Piett, who received a multiple-rank promotion and managed to stay alive after failing Vader twice? That is quite a victory too.

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Yes, but Sabacc night was never the same for Piett after Vader choked Ozzel and Needa.

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SilverWook said:

Yes, but Sabacc night was never the same for Piett after Vader choked Ozzel and Needa.

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I meant by the end of the film, Piett loses big time when the falcon gets away.

Sure, but if you sum everything up, a multiple-rank promotion and miraculously keeping his life outweigh that, and the bottom line is big win situation for him. 😉

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Happy 40th anniversary, TESB.
Where does the time go…

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oojason said:

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Piett: What… How can you do this? This is outrageous! It is unfair! How can you be in command of the fleet and not be an Admiral?

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It’s interesting to think that the only time the big three are together in TESB is in Luke’s medical bay on Hoth.

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And there’s exactly one shot where we see all three together:

Han: Hey Lando! You kept your promise, right? Not a scratch?
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The SE scenes of Vader taking his shuttle from Bespin to his Star Destroyer feature the Lambda-class shuttle from ROTJ, rather than the “inverted TIE bomber” shuttle Captain Needa is glimpsed using during one shot earlier in ESB.

“That Darth Vader, man. Sure does love eating Jedi.”

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I wonder if showing Vader’s shuttle was ever considered back in 1980? I’ve thought it’s not being seen originally was a result of setting a pace for the climax when editing the film.

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If they did it wouldn’t be the ROTJ model, maybe it would have to be the TIE version that Captain Needa used.

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Something I saw on TFN and was motivated to post here:

As JW Rinzler’s Making of ROTJ book attests, the infamous deleted scene where Luke assembles his new lightsaber while Vader calls out to him with the Force was cobbled together in post-production, with Mark Hamill filmed standing in front of a bare-bones set and the footage of Vader being recycled from ESB.

But the latter footage has something unusual: it’s step-printed, with frames being duplicated to create a “dream-like” effect.

IIRC Irvin Kershner only used step-printing once in ESB: during the cave scene on Dagobah, where Luke confronts the vision of himself in Vader’s mask.

So where does the footage of Vader in his meditation chamber with step-printing come from?

“That Darth Vader, man. Sure does love eating Jedi.”

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Would it not be possible to take a negative of regular frame rate material and step-print it (as opposed to printing it normally) to create the staccato effect in the positive print? Is that not how “step printing” works? I mean it is called step printing, not step filming or step developing or something…

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That’s what puzzles me. I wouldn’t think Marquand or Lucas would go out of their way to use step-printing for such a small sequence. And we know the footage was originally done for ESB because the meditation chamber set wasn’t rebuilt for ROTJ. So was the step-printing baked in during ESB for a deleted scene? And if so, what was it?

“That Darth Vader, man. Sure does love eating Jedi.”