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dahmage said:

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Lol @ the notion that 4k is because people couldn’t make out 1080p for being too blurry

Even if I could read this, I wouldn’t.

Can’t wait till this site supports HDR and Dolby Atmos.

What’s next? Smell-o-vision hdr/dolby atmos? (small joke)

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I know when I first got an HD set, I was a bit disappointed I could see the pixel structure up close. 4K is perfect for that. 8K seems like a waste.

Anyway, don’t we have a tech thread somewhere?

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Oh yeah, Star Trek. I know a lot of people consider The Wrath Of The Khan the “best” Star Trek movie ever made. I hate to say this, but…as much as I love The Wrath Of Khan, I love Star Trek 3 & 4 more. Actually I don’t know which one in that trilogy I enjoy more. I think I love all 3 equally. With Star Wars, it’s easy. I love the OG trilogy, & Return Of The Jedi is my favorite. For trilogies like the Star Trek (within the original six) and Back To The Future, I can’t choose.

The Motion Picture (1979) is much better than people make it out to be imo. I know the cinematic universe kicks in better with Wrath Of Khan, but TMP is that middle ground between TOS and the films. You can tell Gene was more involve (and some people consider that a negative).

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skywalkerfan101 said:

The Motion Picture (1979) is much better than people make it out to be imo. I know the cinematic universe kicks in better with Wrath Of Khan, but TMP is that middle ground between TOS and the films.

While I find both official versions of TMP incredibly boring at points, I wholeheartedly agree with this. The main thing is the opening score and Kirk’s introduction. TWOK is ominous, but TMP is grand, and I think that’s important to bring the series to the big screen. Showing the shuttle come into Starfleet Headquarters, and playing a cue of the theme which is simultaneously grand and sentimental as the camera lifts to reveal Kirk’s face; it’s just perfect. Kirk’s intro shot in TWOK is certainly more visually striking, but as I said, it’s ominous, not grand, or even sentimental.

The Motion Picture and The Final Frontier are the two Star Trek films I’m going to fanedit. They often get the short end of the stick, and with good reason, but beneath all the extraneous fluff, they’re more than decent films.

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I’ve always enjoyed TMP. The effects, the themes, Spock’s evolution — I can’t find much there to hate.

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So, a Rick and Morty writer (/the TNG s08 guy) is now doing the Star Trek animated show:

https://variety.com/2018/tv/news/star-trek-animated-series-cbs-all-access-lower-decks-1202993145/

Developed by “Rick and Morty” writer Mike McMahan, the series will focus on the support crew serving on one of Starfleet’s least important ships.

The animated show would’ve been lighter in tone regardless, but it still seems as if they’re quite desperate about chasing after The Orville.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

TOS has the best tone/feel of all the Trek series’, but I’m not keen on the Technicolor sets/costumes, the episodic storytelling

I’m still catching up on about 6 months of this place, but, my friend,
I. Just. Can’t. Even…

DuracellEnergizer said:

Handman said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

TOS has the best tone/feel of all the Trek series’, but I’m not keen on the Technicolor sets/costumes, the episodic storytelling, or the steadfast focus on Kirk/Spock/McCoy. TNG & especially DS9 did better jobs utilizing and developing their characters.

The Kirk/Spock/McCoy dynamic is the show!

I love 'em, but it would’ve been nice if there’d been some Scotty/Sulu/Uhura/etc.-centric episodes in the mix.

Oh. Yes. Hell yes.
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My favourite Star Trek is the original series and the 2nd and 3rd movies as well as the newer versions

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No love for The Undiscovered Country? It’s up there with Khan for me. Those two are more or less tied for my favorite of the original movies, followed closely by The Voyage Home. The Motion Picture and The Search For Spock are tied with each other as the middle-of-the-road Treks, and then The Final Frontier is last in my ranking, but almost entirely for execution; I actually think its premise is one of the best and most in line with the spirit of TOS.

I haven’t actually seen any of the movies with the TNG crew. I’m at the end of season 6 in my inaugural watch-through of TNG, and I’m looking forward to hitting the movies in a few weeks when I’ve finished.

As far as the Kelvin timeline films go, I don’t really want to integrate them into my ranking of the older movies, at least until I’ve seen the TNG films in between, but I will say that I enjoy them for the most part, and I’d rank Star Trek as best, followed by Beyond, and Into Darkness last.

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The Undiscovered Country was a great way to end the series… only it wasn’t.

Also, don’t expect much from the TNG movies.

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The Undiscovered Country may be my favourite TOS film. I’ll have to rewatch both it and Search for Spock to be sure.

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The even numbered ‘rule’ for early ST films really did seem to work out for me. III was probably the best of the odd numbered films for me.

Loved TVH & TUC, as well as TWOK - enjoyable movies I’d still tune into if shown on tv right now; can’t really say that about of some of the other Trek films. I did enjoy First Contact as a film in itself - though not so much as a continuation of TNG Trek.
 

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Even the odd numbered TOS films have something going for them that they’re enjoyable enough for me. Search for Spock is definitely the best of them, but kind of just ends up being a “bottle episode” to explain why Spock is in #4. TMP is great but needs a tighter edit and more character moments. Final Frontier has the great character moments, and some great themes, but is filled with just too much silliness for it to really work.

Honestly, as time goes on, and I keep seeing what they’re doing with Trek now, those movies only get better and better.

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I don’t get the “even numbered ST films = good ST films” thing. I don’t think The Voyage Home is anything special, and Nemesis is straight-up garbage.

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I think The Voyage Home is special, but the idea that The Search for Spock isn’t fantastic is beyond me. The theft and Destruction of the Enterprise, the death of David, the outcome of Genesis. What’s not to love?

And as I’ve kept saying, The Final Frontier is a great movie underneath a bunch of silly baggage that can easily be edited out. Nothing is really missing from the film, it just needs to be trimmed of the out of place humor.

The Motion Picture is missing something, so even when the fat is trimmed it won’t be on quite the same level as the others.

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Folks complaining that Discovery can’t be Prime Timeline because things don’t look right are really clinging to the idea of canon a little too tightly. TMP, the other “TOS-movies” and TOS all being in the same timeline as each other doesn’t even make sense with that standard.

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Yeah, really the problem is that things like TNG’s holodeck version of NCC-1701’S bridge and the time travel incidents set a precedent which modern show runners aren’t willing to follow because it would constrain them too much. They could never make Discovery if they were beholden to the aesthetic of the 60s, but some people don’t want a change in precedence.

Of course, I also think the Augments Klingom retcon was silly, so what do I know.

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The way they’re doing the Discovery version of the Enterprise would have been tolerable.

What they did not only to the design of the Klingons but their culture as well in season 1 absolutely precludes it being part of the Prime Timeline.

And that’s ignoring the ridiculous Star Wars holograms throughout the series.

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They could never make Discovery if they were beholden to the aesthetic of the 60s, but some people don’t want a change in precedence.

And that’s why it shouldn’t have been set when it’s set. Nothing about it aside from who her adopted parents are necessitate it being set pre-TOS.

And if they really wanted her tied to Vulcan they could have made her Spock’s adopted daughter instead of sister.

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They could never make Discovery if they were beholden to the aesthetic of the 60s

Why? I love the 60s aesthetic! It’d get me to watch this show, anyway.

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Handman said:

They could never make Discovery if they were beholden to the aesthetic of the 60s

Why? I love the 60s aesthetic! It’d get me to watch this show, anyway.

I assume the-powers-that-be want the show to appeal to demographics beyond the hardcore Trekkies who like retro kitsch.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

Handman said:

They could never make Discovery if they were beholden to the aesthetic of the 60s

Why? I love the 60s aesthetic! It’d get me to watch this show, anyway.

I assume the-powers-that-be want the show to appeal to demographics beyond the hardcore Trekkies who like retro kitsch.

Whoever said I liked Star Trek? 😮

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I’m sorry, but I didn’t hear about that “odd numbered=bad; even numbered=good” thing until I got older. I never followed it in any way. To me, it is complete bogus, or in other words bullsh*t.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

Handman said:

They could never make Discovery if they were beholden to the aesthetic of the 60s

Why? I love the 60s aesthetic! It’d get me to watch this show, anyway.

I assume the-powers-that-be want the show to appeal to demographics beyond the hardcore Trekkies who like retro kitsch.

Most people would’ve been satisfied if they recreated this:

with some modern “movie” sensibilities. Not as unnecessarily shiny-white as JJ Abrams did, but that’s the idea. You can make it look like the same in universe time period without making it look like low budget '60s TV again. The Cage didn’t even have the excessively colorful lighting the series would have so the original look of the sets translate really well to a more realistic look.

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