The Last Jedi: Legendary (Released) — Page 19

Hal 9000 said:

It’s Star Wars tradition to be chock-full of weird sex stuff. Or maybe it was just us all these years.

No, just Duracell. 😉

Hal 9000 said:

Hmm… yes, of course! The Last Jedi is full of latent sexuality. It’s really the key to everything! The milking scene, Rey asking Kylo for a cowl, the touching hands scene, Rey believing she can save Kylo, Holdo emasculating Poe, etc etc.

I totally agree with you (after friendzoning Finn in TFA, Rey declines Ren’s seduction by saber-blocking him in TLJ).

(twist in Episode 9: she’s more into wookiees)

Still : I stand my point that Rey asking Ren to put a cowl goes against this latent sexuality. Her eyes looking elsewhere without saying anything in your workprint v1 bears more meaning in that matter than the theatrical cut does imho.

Hey Hal!

Just watched down the work print, and I love your style! You’re careful and subtle with the changes, so that none of the edits were distracting.

I was most impressed, of course, with the Canto Bight cutdown. Oh man, I can enjoy the movie so much more with that reduction, I think you nailed it!

One thing, though, that I just won’t be able to ever get over watching is the Leia Poppins scene. It’s just too distracting. Ultimately, I think I will want a hybrid of your edit with this scene cut.

So, inspired by the Ivan Ortega videos and my wife’s suggestion for how to eliminate that scene, I tried my hand at a proof of concept edit to see if it can be removed without being too fan-edity. This is the result: https://vimeo.com/268210930
(pw: fanedit)

Does this work at all? One thing I would like to do, with permission, is use the music change Ortega outlined here: https://youtu.be/wq57WLWAqU8?t=10m15s

I love his music transition from Hux to Leia, and that would be my ideal way to finish off the scene. What do you think?

Hal 9000 said:

That is probably the best way that idea can be executed. Great work!

But, I don’t have an impetus to remove the sequence. Especially since we won’t be getting any more Leia.

Fair enough! And thank you!

I think I will use your edit when finished and splice in this bit for myself. Leia Poppins just takes me right out of the movie!

Edit: btw, that YouTube video you linked to is fantastic, thanks for sharing!

Hal 9000 said:

That is probably the best way that idea can be executed. Great work!

But, I don’t have an impetus to remove the sequence. Especially since we won’t be getting any more Leia.

What I find interesting. The two actors that are still alive, have been killed off. The one that is dead. Is still alive.

I also have my reservations about that. But I guess that what stands against Leia’s space sequence outbids what stands for:

• it looks ridiculous
• it doesn’t pay hommage to Carrie Fisher at all (it’s even quite insulting to fail that much what should have been her most important scene in the Saga)
• it has absolutely no impact on the movie (Ren doesn’t shoot, what does it mean in the movie ? Well: nothing. Leia exposes to everyone her Force sensitivity, what is the payoff in the rest of the movie ? Well: nothing. This entire sequence is 100% useless, even Lucas didn’t fail that much during the PT era)

But yeah: next Leia we’ll see will probably a “Laurence Olivier/Gladiator” version of her, so I understand Hal’s feeling about keeping that scene intact, a very hard call, but in the end the edit is his. The thing is that this scene is probably going to be a real deal breaker for many people, so I hope someone will take Hal’s edit and implement into it the best space Leia’s removal possible !

MalàStrana said:
The thing is that this scene is probably going to be a real deal breaker for many people, so I hope someone will take Hal’s edit and implement into it the best space Leia’s removal possible !

MalàStrana, that’s what I want too! The scene is a deal breaker for me.

Here’s my current version (using Ivan Ortega’s music idea for the end of the scene):
https://vimeo.com/268210930 (pw: fanedit)

But I’m wondering what others have done. I’m just looking for the best version to splice into Hal’s edit. Maybe we should make a new topic to keep this out of Hal’s thread?

He’s said before that the Leia scene doesn’t bother him so I think he is going to stick with that. I’m with him on that decision.

I don’t think he’s going to change the title but he’s had a theme of using book titles for his edits so I think he would stick with that. I think Dark Force Rising would fit well with TLJ too, but I don’t think it necessarily needs a new title. Legacy of the blank would make for a cool title though!

Hey Hal,

One thing I noticed when re-watching your Canto Bight sequence (so much better) is that there’s not a lot of setup for the shady people they’re about to see (including DJ), and the stolen weapons dealer’s ship moment is kind of random.

Now, I’m not suggesting adding back in any of the ham-fisted political commentary, but Rose has a simple line after Finn asks, “You know this town, Canto Bight?”
Rose says “From stories”, which is where you cut. This is a bit abrupt, but she also says right after that, “It’s a terrible place filled with the vilest people in the galaxy.”

I think adding that back would help setup the place, and DJ’s revelation about the weapons dealer wouldn’t come out of nowhere. It would be akin to Obi-Wan’s “wretched hive of scum and villainy” line from ANH.