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SilverWook said:

MalàStrana said:

If you were half the man he was !

No TLJ spoilers. 😉

Speaking of that, when are we going to be allowed to talk about TLJ spoilers outside the TLJ Spoiler thread? Not that there’s anything else left to talk about at this point, but…

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Collipso said:

SilverWook said:

MalàStrana said:

If you were half the man he was !

No TLJ spoilers. 😉

Speaking of that, when are we going to be allowed to talk about TLJ spoilers outside the TLJ Spoiler thread? Not that there’s anything else left to talk about at this point, but…

The rules will be relaxed two months from release date, so sometime next week. : )

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darthrush said:

The new Spock doesn’t work. He’s meant to be an emotionless Vulcan but actually translates onscreen to being a constantly grumpy and irritated dude. You also have no reason to believe he would become best friends with the new Kirk who is basically boiled down to being a jock flyboy who’s main thing is just to disobey every order.

TLDR: The new Star Trek movies minus Beyond (which is delightful) are dumb action movies with poorly written characters.

I agree with all of this (Beyond is the best)

NeverarGreat said:

Leonard Nimoy maintained that while his iconic character may have been seen as cold and unemotional, he always played him as “a guy trying to keep his emotions in check.”

Yeah, Nimoy played him as a levelheaded person that every now and then would slip up. Quinto’s portrayal was that of an ever irritated grump. None of the cast of nuTrek really nailed their character except for Bones and to a lesser extent Kirk. Though Kirk suffered the most from being written as a pop culture stereotype of the character.

As for the topic at hand, I’m a big believer in being able to recast an iconic role. But whoever is cast has to be able to capture the spirit of that character. Sean Patrick Flanery was a great young Indy in The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles because he understood that. The jury is still out on Ehrenreich’s Solo but so far the prognosis is not good.

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ray_afraid said:

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Something that hit me today is this whole movie is essentially a giant “Han shot last”. Everyone freaked out at changing Han in ANH from shooting first because it changed his character from a ruthless scoundrel selfish smuggler who has no problem killing who made friends and turned out to be a hero in the end to somebody who was “always good” and would never shoot first, or at least without provocation. This movie will unavoidably portray Han in a heroic light (because that’s what Star Wars is) which completely undermines his OT arc worse than shooting last did in the SE.

I had similar reservations at first, but I really don’t buy that Han was a horrible person pre-OT anyway.
Law breaker? Yeah.
Drug smuggler? Yeah.
Arrogant? Yeah.
Kill rather than be killed? Yeah.
“No problem with killing”? No, he’s not a murderer and I don’t believe he’s the kinda guy who kills without reason.
I have friends who fit this description. And while they aren’t involved in shootouts on the reg, I assure you they (and me) would rather shoot than be shot and wouldn’t wait for the gun pointed at them to go off before pulling the trigger. (again, it’s not a situation we find ourselves in, but I don’t have to wonder what would happen.)

Fair enough. That makes sense. However, I don’t believe he would have pulled off any heroic activities at all, like this movie undoubtedly will, until ANH.

Even with all that said, I just doubt anybody could play the character and make me believe it’s Han. He’s my favorite character to ever appear in anything. If not for Han, I’d never have gotten into StarWars. I’m willing to give it a chance though.

Pretty much 100% agree.

darthrush said:

The new Spock doesn’t work. He’s meant to be an emotionless Vulcan but actually translates onscreen to being a constantly grumpy and irritated dude. You also have no reason to believe he would become best friends with the new Kirk who is basically boiled down to being a jock flyboy who’s main thing is just to disobey every order.

TLDR: The new Star Trek movies minus Beyond (which is delightful) are dumb action movies with poorly written characters.

I don’t agree with this because I don’t believe the Abrams Spock is precisely the same character as Nimoy’s Spock. He’s much less concerned with keeping his emotions in check in the Kelvin universe because of all the different events that happened. He even admits as much when he questions Kirk about offering assistance to Nero and when Kirk said he thought he’d “like that” he said basically “nope”. This is not the same Spock.

I haven’t seen Beyond yet but I kept hearing everywhere that it was much more authentic than either ST 09 or Into Darkness.

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MusicallyInspired said:

I haven’t seen Beyond yet but I kept hearing everywhere that it was much more authentic than either ST 09 or Into Darkness.

I thought it was just more of the same personally.

As for Han yeah he should still be the guy who said “better her than me” or even worse.

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‘9 new images and insights from Solo: A Star Wars Story’…

http://ew.com/movies/2018/02/07/solo-a-star-wars-story-pictures-deep-dive/

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ray_afraid said:

Oof… They’ve Trek’09ed it.

I don’t think it’s too fair a comparison. This is after all the Falcon when it was Lando’s ship. And it makes a lot of sense that a ship belonging to a guy who owned a place that looked like this, would own a ship that looked like the EW picture above, as opposed to the ANH screenshot (which is more appropriate for two smugglers less concerned about aesthetics).

We haven’t really gotten that good of an idea what the rich and classy looked like in SW, apart from the PT. After all the OT mostly focused on military bases and backwater places like Tatooine. The closes we got was Cloud City, which was very shiny and elegant. But even that was referred to as a “small mining operation.”

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Oh my so that was the Falcon? I feel dumb now.

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Ehrenreich looks more like Han Solo in the picture shared above than in most shots of the trailer imo.

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Yeah but your Luke avatar looks like a green robot so what do you know?

(I agree btw, that was a weird picture to try and make the point with.)

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ZkinandBonez said:

That’s quite a change in appearance.

Also I never realized before just how dirty the Millennium Falcon was.

Uh. Are we supposed to believe that in a mere ten years the Falcon goes from brand-spanking new to the trash heap we see in Star Wars?

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pleasehello said:

ZkinandBonez said:

That’s quite a change in appearance.

Also I never realized before just how dirty the Millennium Falcon was.

Uh. Are we supposed to believe that in a mere ten years the Falcon goes from brand-spanking new to the trash heap we see in Star Wars?

A lot can happen in ten years, just look at Doctor Who.

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pleasehello said:

ZkinandBonez said:

That’s quite a change in appearance.

Also I never realized before just how dirty the Millennium Falcon was.

Uh. Are we supposed to believe that in a mere ten years the Falcon goes from brand-spanking new to the trash heap we see in Star Wars?

you can believe whatever you want.

looks like it got flood damage to me 😃

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The Falcon is not the only ship of its model either. Maybe it’s another one?

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What would you expect it to look like? It wasn’t first made that dirty. Are the corridors of the hammerhead corvette ship also too “ST '09?”

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ZkinandBonez said:

That’s quite a change in appearance.

Also I never realized before just how dirty the Millennium Falcon was.

I see Chewie in the same spot

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It has wall paneling. It makes sense that Han would take that off.