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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION — Page 418

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ChainsawAsh said:

Possessed said:

Is the 97 really that red right there?
Jeez. And here we thought the Blu Ray colors were bad. Even the sky is red!

All the home video transfers of the 97 look like garbage color-wise, but supposedly the prints looked great.

No, they don’t. They look like GARBAGE. Adawyn’s looks amazing in comparison. Trust me, I sat through the grossness of the fake(SE) versions of the Star Wars, ESB and ROTJ. They ALL sucked.

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I wish my memories of a print I only saw once 20 years ago was that good!

Anyway, proof of what the SE’s really looked like is coming. 😉

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LordZerome1080 said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Possessed said:

Is the 97 really that red right there?
Jeez. And here we thought the Blu Ray colors were bad. Even the sky is red!

All the home video transfers of the 97 look like garbage color-wise, but supposedly the prints looked great.

No, they don’t. They look like GARBAGE. Adawyn’s looks amazing in comparison. Trust me, I sat through the grossness of the fake(SE) versions of the Star Wars, ESB and ROTJ. They ALL sucked.

Well, I was 8 when I saw the SE in theaters (7 for ANH - ESB was my birthday present), so I couldn’t tell you how they looked, but supposedly the prints were timed to Lucas’ private Technicolor archival prints (at least for ANH) and by all the accounts I’ve heard, the colors were great.

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ChainsawAsh said:

LordZerome1080 said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Possessed said:

Is the 97 really that red right there?
Jeez. And here we thought the Blu Ray colors were bad. Even the sky is red!

All the home video transfers of the 97 look like garbage color-wise, but supposedly the prints looked great.

No, they don’t. They look like GARBAGE. Adawyn’s looks amazing in comparison. Trust me, I sat through the grossness of the fake(SE) versions of the Star Wars, ESB and ROTJ. They ALL sucked.

Well, I was 8 when I saw the SE in theaters (7 for ANH - ESB was my birthday present), so I couldn’t tell you how they looked, but supposedly the prints were timed to Lucas’ private Technicolor archival prints (at least for ANH) and by all the accounts I’ve heard, the colors were great.
We must be rembering different versions.

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Honestly I’m not too picky about colors. I can deal with the Blu Ray colors with some slight blanket adjustments (specified by JawsTDS. Basically a gamma increase, a reduction in red shadows and blue highlights. They don’t look actuate to how they looked in the 70s and 80s but it at least makes them look pleasing to the eyes… Although obviously legitimate thorough “accurate” shot by shot correction what’s done by adywan is great too), But that just looked awful.

But I have a hard time believing you remember what the colors looked like in theaters 20 years ago.

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Perhaps changing one line from Vader to “Don’t be too proud of this technological terror we have constructed”. That way it acknowledges the empty chair at the table without naming him and acts as a warning for Motti to ignore.

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Possessed said:

Honestly I’m not too picky about colors. I can deal with the Blu Ray colors with some slight blanket adjustments (specified by JawsTDS. Basically a gamma increase, a reduction in red shadows and blue highlights. They don’t look actuate to how they looked in the 70s and 80s but it at least makes them look pleasing to the eyes… Although obviously legitimate thorough “accurate” shot by shot correction what’s done by adywan is great too), But that just looked awful.

But I have a hard time believing you remember what the colors looked like in theaters 20 years ago.

I’m referring to the VHS sets.

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Wait, what? I just said that all home video releases were shitty but the theatrical prints were said to be good, and you argued with me about it. But now you say you were talking about the VHS copies, which I already said were shitty. So why exactly did you feel the need to argue about it?

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LordZerome1080 said:

ChainsawAsh said:

LordZerome1080 said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Possessed said:

Is the 97 really that red right there?
Jeez. And here we thought the Blu Ray colors were bad. Even the sky is red!

All the home video transfers of the 97 look like garbage color-wise, but supposedly the prints looked great.

No, they don’t. They look like GARBAGE. Adawyn’s looks amazing in comparison. Trust me, I sat through the grossness of the fake(SE) versions of the Star Wars, ESB and ROTJ. They ALL sucked.

Well, I was 8 when I saw the SE in theaters (7 for ANH - ESB was my birthday present), so I couldn’t tell you how they looked, but supposedly the prints were timed to Lucas’ private Technicolor archival prints (at least for ANH) and by all the accounts I’ve heard, the colors were great.
We must be rembering different versions.

Would you please proofread your posts and stop adding your post to the quote block?

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Could you all please refrain from posting/replying in the quote block?

Thank you.

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I’m not positive, but I think it sometimes happens on accident due to some forum software thing. I feel like it has happened to me once or twice. That’s why I’m asking him to proofread. With that said, he does it all the time, so maybe it’s him and not us. 😉

And in case it wasn’t clear, I didn’t add anything to that quote block.

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TV’s Frink said:

I’m not positive, but I think it sometimes happens on accident due to some forum software thing. I feel like it has happened to me once or twice. That’s why I’m asking him to proofread. With that said, he does it all the time, so maybe it’s him and not us. 😉

And in case it wasn’t clear, I didn’t add anything to that quote block.

I think it’s me. Sorry about that.

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I’m fairly certain it’s too late for this suggestion in Adywan’s work, but I love the idea in Sparkysywer’s thread that DS1 wasn’t actually destroyed in ANH, but rather severely damaged, rebuilt during ESB, and then revealed again for ROTJ. I don’t see the need to change much… a new destruction effect in ANH, and modified crawls for ESB and ROTJ.

I think that it’s an elegant solution to the rehash problem of DS2.

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You don’t partially solve a problem with a movie (which is not really a problem since the rehash thing is part of some kind of trap) by damaging another one. And I don’t even see how implying that DS2 is a rebuilt DS1 would even change anything for ROTJ except making the first real Rebel victory a fake victory after all. Luke got a medal for that ! (“oh by the way Luke, DS wasn’t really destroyed and is being rebuilt… soooo… I’d like to get the medal back, and don’t tell me you can’t because you gave it to Chewie”).

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nhoj3 said:

I’m fairly certain it’s too late for this suggestion in Adywan’s work, but I love the idea in Sparkysywer’s thread that DS1 wasn’t actually destroyed in ANH, but rather severely damaged, rebuilt during ESB, and then revealed again for ROTJ. I don’t see the need to change much… a new destruction effect in ANH, and modified crawls for ESB and ROTJ.

I think that it’s an elegant solution to the rehash problem of DS2.

I love the idea as well, but it seems more “fan-edity” than what Ady’s doing.
And I think he’s against changing the opening text.

I think it’s an idea better suited for another edit.

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Or instead, change the plot of VI so instead of another DS, it is something else. What is funny now when I think about it, in VII, when comparing Star Killer Base, they used the original DS instead of DS2 … so one COULD make an edit that removes a DS2 and it would kind of work for the movie canon … at least based off the next movie after VI!

Anyway, back to IV … fortunately Ady would just need to really, all in all, do some minor things for this release… remove the “electrified” needle, add more green to planet to make it look like Scarif, remove music with Obi & Vader battle (and the spin!), make hyperspeed spin for continuity, add radio noise/talking to his added TIE fighter scene.

Oh yes, and a nice easter egg of a walking K2 unit somewhere in the background at the DS … that would be really neat.

“Because you are a PalpaWalker?”

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I like the partially destroyed Death Star idea. It could even be established in ANH that Yavin is actually Endor (just change the one line in the film establishing this), and it makes sense that the damaged Death Star would remain in orbit around the moon.

There is the issue of Yavin 4 being more tropical than the Sanctuary Moon, but you could even fix this by making the matte paintings more deciduous. Being incredibly bold, you could film one or two people in Ewok costumes and have their shadowy forms peeking out of the woods at this point:
Yavin
So now there’s a reason for the Rebels to protect the planet rather than immediately evacuate, as there’s a native sentient species, and there’s a reason for the Ewoks to treat Leia as royalty, since she may have been known to the Ewoks as a leader of the Rebellion.

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jarbear said:

Anyway, back to IV … fortunately Ady would just need to really, all in all, do some minor things for this release…

Actually, everything has to be re-done. Ady doesn’t have his original working files, and besides, none of that would upscale to HD. Plus he’s said he won’t be reusing images of ships and such from other parts of other films, it’ll all be completely brand new shots. Which is great, because the Star Destroyers from Empire are one of the little things that pull me out of the movie when watching.

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Biggs in ANH edit idea
ROTJ opening edit idea

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If he does decide to use the imperial march again this time around, I wonder if he’ll use over of the alternate takes this time so it’s not so similar sounding to TESB. I seem to recall reading in the ESB thread years and years ago that he had regretted not doing this when he made ANH revisited.

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ray_afraid said:

jarbear said:

Anyway, back to IV … fortunately Ady would just need to really, all in all, do some minor things for this release…

Actually, everything has to be re-done. Ady doesn’t have his original working files, and besides, none of that would upscale to HD. Plus he’s said he won’t be reusing images of ships and such from other parts of other films, it’ll all be completely brand new shots. Which is great, because the Star Destroyers from Empire are one of the little things that pull me out of the movie when watching.

Sorry I wasn’t too specifically what I meant. Naturally he would need to start from scratch to properly “upscale” to HD. My
Comment was mostly based on his original release … essentially how man changes/additions he would do for the HD release.

I do like his decision on not using shots from other movies, specially the star destroyers. If he can remake those scenes on his own and make it appear seem less on his edit I say great!

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NeverarGreat said:

I like the partially destroyed Death Star idea. It could even be established in ANH that Yavin is actually Endor (just change the one line in the film establishing this), and it makes sense that the damaged Death Star would remain in orbit around the moon.

There is the issue of Yavin 4 being more tropical than the Sanctuary Moon, but you could even fix this by making the matte paintings more deciduous. Being incredibly bold, you could film one or two people in Ewok costumes and have their shadowy forms peeking out of the woods at this point:
Yavin
So now there’s a reason for the Rebels to protect the planet rather than immediately evacuate, as there’s a native sentient species, and there’s a reason for the Ewoks to treat Leia as royalty, since she may have been known to the Ewoks as a leader of the Rebellion.

I think that is pretty amazing! But yeah jungle vs forest and universe shrinkage goes agaist it.

Very cool idea I must admit and how you developed it…

Last year before christmas i fooled around with the battle of Yavin Revisited and I provided Ady with a link and i am not sure he took a look at it. It was unfinished rough edit but I did really want him to atleast see some of the ideas I had even if he might have agreed with them but wanted to do them slightly differently or did not agree with them and did not like the ideas…

I am going to post some gifs of some of these ideas as I never intended to edit the whole film but i offered my take on colors already but it was fun for some ideas i had and let’s remember this is about having fun together. I will share a few gifs tonight it is mostly new or edited shots spliced in and I think you might find them interesting or I hope you do…

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These ideas seem to be going way beyond what Ady’s goals are.

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Darth Lucas said:

These ideas seem to be going way beyond what Ady’s goals are.

Well you might be right there… I wont be posting any gifs now because i am still trying to get home at the moment… But i think they were somewhat in the vein of what Ady might do. It did not change the story at all they were visual and action orientated really.

I don’t have time to do much of anything apart from work so it’s just nice to have a chat honestly.

Thinking about it though i actually did quite a alot with it. To actually talk about it as a study would be a lot to digest and it was not the plan but i might bullet point what my plan was as i was testing what i was capable of achieving and just trying to learn stuff really.

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Maybe start a separate thread for your ideas? Especially since Adywan has said multiple times that he’s not taking suggestions for ANH:R:HD…

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I’m sure if someone suggested something that he liked that he hadn’t yet thought of he would consider it for AR:SE.