For info, the 97 SE screenshots for Episodes 4, 5 and 6 of that DVD Active guide were taken from the TB Release. (Come to think of it, so were as the Episode 1 Theatrical version screenshots)
LexX said:After seeing the cover it just hit me - the movie is in NTSC, right? D'oh! Any PAL versions out there?
I live in PAL land and have no problems at all with playing any NTSC DVD. The fact is I prefer them as you do not get that annoying PAL speed up!!!!
EyeShotFirst said:I based it off of the Star Wars Trilogy Sega Pinball back-glass.
Sorry for going off topic but you have not lived until you have tried this game on a PC using Virtual Pinball!!!
Darth Mallwalker said:worst idea?
combining Fan Edits and Preservation Efforts together in the same forum
Seconded.
Check out the majority of threads on this website at the moment and you will get some fantastic ideas for this thread.
I like my Star Wars as I saw it in the theatre. Sorry!!
I am sorry to hear this news as to me there cannot be enough preservations out there - especially as they look to be getting better and better.
Lets hope that the SE Take 2 still happens and good luck with the Blu Ray set.
Back in the day, if you wanted an anamorphic transfer, this was the only real choice you had.
Very good it is too.....
It depends on what you are really looking for??
Let us know and we may be able to help out........
I know I had a copy on my computer once but I have had some drive failures in the last couple of years. If I come across it, I will let you know.
doubleofive said:I grew up on a VHS copy of the CED of ANH. It was time compressed?! I had no idea! I wish my dad still had that tape, I'd love to preserve that nostalgia for myself.
The Starkiller XVID version of ANH would certainly fill that void in your life.....
The Definitive Collection LaserDisc set
The only one I know of is an XVID of Ep IV by The Starkiller.
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Star Wars 1982 CED (Xvid)
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Type.................: Movie
Video Format.........: AVI (Xvid)
Resolution...........: 576 x 432
Source...............: 1982 CED (Capacitance Electronic Disc)
Original Format......: NTSC
Size.................: CD1: 699 MB
CD2: 699 MB
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Posted by............: The Starkiller
Posted to............: alt.binaries.starwars
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I am not aware of any other CED transfers out there, so here you go. This is
really only of interest to the hardcore fans and is more of a curiosity than
anything else.
The 1982 CED features the same version of Star Wars as the 1982 and 1983
laserdiscs. These discs all feature a different pan and scan transfer than all
other home video releases. Other than that, there's nothing extraordinary about
it. That's why I chose Xvid instead of DVD.
There are a few places where the video jumps around and there's some scratches
here and there. Nothing I could do about that.
vbangle said:What the hell has happened to this place? Not at all the same as it used to be years ago...sigh
Without hijacking this thread too much, I cannot agree more.
I hang around here as it is the place to be because I want the best versions possible of the films I saw back in 77, 80 and 83. I do not dislike what Mr Lucas did in 1997 and 2004 but it was not what I first saw. Many people despise, even hate Mr Lucas for doing what he did to those films and that he should have left them alone.
Fast forward to today and this board (ironically called originaltrilogy.com) is packed with people doing their own versions of the OT or PT, doing what Mr Lucas has done but many times worse! To me, they are all raping these films so why is this one any worse.
I do not agree with or like these edits but I do respect individuals rights to do them. However, I do not understand how some people can treat some of these editors like gods yet be so spitefull to others??
If the audio on the initial release is as crap as you say it is, whilst I thought it was the best I have heard through my basic system, I cannot wait to get the new AC3 file added to the copy I have.
Of course, the downside is that I will have to watch TPM again afterwards..........
Forget the official DVD, the bootlegs, the extended versions and the countless edits that are out there, if you are going to watch The Phantom Menace on DVD then this is the version that you must watch.
The video quality is very good as you would expect and the bits inserted in from the TB DVB TV broadcast match the rest of the video perfectly.
However, the real gem in this release is that 5.1 soundtrack. It is simply amazing!! I only have a very cheap and nasty surround sound set up at the moment but it has never sounded so good. Even if you hate the film, just shut your eyes and listen!!!
As stated previously, I have waited a long time to see a top quality release of the theatrical version of this film and this release has been well worth the wait.
The TB "Canal Plus" version has a white + and a blue square next to it in the top right corner.
Firstly, the difference between the theatrical and DVD versions can be seen here... http://www.dvdactive.com/editorial/articles/star-wars-the-changes-part-four.html
It must be over 4 years since I first uploaded the "missing" clips from the TB version for someone to make a theatrical version of TPM using the DVD as a source. That never happened so I am pleased to see this release come out.
Newsgroups! In the UK, any half decent ISP provides them free and has about a weeks retention which is more than enough if you download as something is posted.
Of course, for those people without a decent ISP, you can currently get 180GB of download for $25 which equates to arround $1 to download another fantastic piece of work by ADYWAN. Are those people who are anti-newsgroups saying that this is not worth $1?? Just asking..........
The Look SE and 5 Star DVD5 claim to have DD 5.1
The 5 Star DVD9 even claims to have DD5.1DTS.
These are all from the Laserdiscs but I am not sure how genuine or good they are.
You already have it on the GKar set (amongst others) if I recall correctly.........
specs here http://homepage.ntlworld.com/russdawson/gtf/dvd/SE/special.html
ChainsawAsh said:And I still can't figure out if there was a 1985 remix of ROTJ, or if the 1983 theatrical mix was ever released on LD/VHS ...
I think this one will remain a mystery. My best guess is that as ROTJ was made with Digital Sound and the first release on Laserdisc has Digital Sound so I think they may be the same. By the time that ROTJ came out ANH and ESB had already had the 85 Digital Sound treatment.
I would also guess that those theatres that were THX capable in 1983 had a different mix to the one that more basic theatres had but that basic mix is what the Laserdisc got.
PM sent........
ChainsawAsh said:If anyone has DarkJedi's ESB Standard Play and ROTJ "First Issues" discs, could you send me a PM and work out a trade or something? Those are the LDs that have the original theatrical mixes of each of those films (at least, as far as I can tell) and they're not time-compressed like the ANH/ESB Extended Play discs are (the "First Issue" discs of those).
I realised as part of hacking together this mega-thread that the main web-site resource I used to help out with sourcing the Dark Jedi preservations - davisdvd.com - shut down over 3 years ago. However, using the magic of Google and a site called web.archive.org I found it again and the links are below
http://web.archive.org/web/20060206031246/www.davisdvd.com/misc/ep4.htm
http://web.archive.org/web/20050924185548/www.davisdvd.com/misc/ep5.htm
http://web.archive.org/web/20050924185726/www.davisdvd.com/misc/ep6.htm
So, to answer ChainsawAsh, both the Ep4 and 5 Standard play laserdiscs were the first laserdisc releases that were not time compressed and also the last release which had the original theatrical soundtracks prior to the 1985 DigitalSound re-mastering.
From what I can make out, the Ep6 audio on the First Issue is the same as that used right up to the remastering for the Definitive Collection ie, the First Issue, the Special Widescreen Edition, the Japanese Special Collection and 1992 Pan and Scan
dark_jedi said:.......and that list is getting bigger LOL.
That is why I thought I would take this chance to re-introduce everyone to your work and get all the threads/projects listed in one place.
Now that Dark Jedi is back among us doing more Star Wars projects, I have been looking back at previous work that he has been involved with. Unfortunately, there has been no single thread with each project having one all of its own. Hence here is a mega-thread listing all current and previous projects with all known links to those threads.
For those not around in 2005 and 2006, Dark Jedi was a very prolific preservationist capturing most if not all different US NTSC Laserdiscs, the Japanese Special Collection as well as a couple of Pan & Scan US NTSC VHS tapes. The full list is below.
The Very latest project…
Star Wars Original Trilogy Theatrical Edition’s Info, ALL versions! (SEE FIRST POST FOR INFO AND AVAILABILITY)
The original projects
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/russdawson/gtf/dvd/OTHERS/dj.html
Dark Jedi First Issues Collection (3)
Source - The 1982/1985/1986 CLV Extended Play set
Dark Jedi Standard Play Collection (2)
Source - 1985 CAV Standard Play set
Dark Jedi Special Widescreen Edition (4 inc incredible shrinking ratio Ep 4)
Source - The Special Widescreen Edition set
Dark Jedi Pan and Scan (3)
Source - 1992 US NTSC Pan and Scan set
The Dark/Sega Special Collection Transfer Project (3)
Source - 1993 Japanese NTSC Special Collection set
The Dark Jedi Special Collection UnSubbed Letterbox (3) - never released
Source - 1993 Japanese NTSC Special Collection set
The Dark Jedi Special Collection UnSubbed Widescreen (3) - never released
Source - 1993 Japanese NTSC Special Collection set
Dark Jedi Definitive Collection (3)
Source - 1992 US NTSC 1993 Definitive Collection Boxset
Jedi/Feta Definitive Collection (3)
Source - 1992 US NTSC 1993 Definitive Collection Boxset
The Dark Jedi Faces Transfer (3)
Source - 1995 US NTSC Faces set
The Dark Jedi Faces “Fullscreen Edition” VHS Transfer (3)
Source - 1995 US NTSC Faces “Fullscreen” VHS set
Dark Jedi Star Wars Trilogy '97 Special Edition (4 inc Bonus DVD)
Source - 1997 US NTSC Special Edition set
Jedi/Feta Star Wars Trilogy Special Edition (4 inc Bonus DVD)
Source - 1997 US NTSC Special Edition set
The DARKSVN Special Edition (1)
Source - 1997 US NTSC Special Edition set
Dark Jedi Special Edition VHS Fullscreen
Source - 1997 Special Edition VHS Fullscreen set
attempting to preserve my copies
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/attempting-to-preserve-my-copies/topic/1957/
97’ SE laserdisc transfer set including extras…
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/97-SE-laserdisc-transfer-set-including-extras/topic/2708/
SW “pan & scan” “def. collection” @myspleen
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/SW-pan-amp-scan-def-collection-myspleen/topic/3163/
some specs on my releases
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/some-specs-on-my-releases/topic/3076/
star wars 97 se trilogy “fullscreen”
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/star-wars-97-se-trilogy-fullscreen/topic/4006/
“FACES”
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/FACES/topic/3424/
The Official Dark/Sega Special Collection Release Thread (Not an SE Transfer)
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/The-Official-Dark-Sega-Special-Collection-Release-Thread-Not-an-SE-Transfer/topic/3138/
Special Collection : UnSubbed Edition
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Special-Collection-UnSubbed-Edition/topic/4323/
SIX fantastic brand new preservation projects…
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/SIX-fantastic-brand-new-preservation-projects/topic/3780/
Star Wars Trilogy JSC “Take 2” (3) (work in progress)
Source - 1993 Japanese NTSC Special Collection set
Star Wars Trilogy 97 SE “Take 2” (3 or 4) (possible project)
Source - 1997 US NTSC Special Edition set
Star Wars Trilogy JSC “Take 2”
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-Trilogy-JSC-Take-2/topic/10521/
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dark_jedi said:I have just been saying for a long time that I was going to re-do this and now I am,
About 4 years if I recall!!! I look forward to see how you get on.