oojason

one for those of us in the UK…

SilverWook said:

http://digg.com/video/star-wars-fan-convention-rogue-one-ending-cosplay

very cool 😃

some pics (99 of 'em) from the SWCO17 - http://imgur.com/a/l1MEB

^ from https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/66gzg1/my_swco_photo_album_99_photos_of_pure_star_wars/

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

I found the cameo jarring. Would’ve preferred to have just seen them in the background on the Tantive IV.

Similar feeling here - C3PO’s line ‘Scarif!? We’re going to Scarif? Why does nobody ever tell me anything, R2?’ seems quite lengthy and breaks up the flow in amongst several quick-moving shots…

Am hoping one the coming Fan Edits trims the line a little - maybe even changed to something like ‘C’mon R2, we’re going’ etc - or just have no C3PO line and keep the scene in…

DuracellEnergizer said:

I’d kinda like to see a sequel to They Live.

Some days mate it seems we’re living it - though Nada lost.

(a sequel would be great 😃)

the full film is here to watch for free - albeit with some Russian subtitles - https://vimeo.com/27092403

kozloz said:

I enjoyed TFA. It was a rehash of Episode 4 yeah but wasn’t that kind of the point?

I found it to be more a re-telling of all three OT films…

This is pretty decent in explaining why (just for consideration) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pueu2wu0M5s (and only 3 minutes long - and also saves me typing out a lot of words! 😉)

I can understand why they went for that - Disney had paid $4b for the franchise, and likely didn’t want to take financial risks with their 1st SW film - whilst also wanting their new films to be of a standard, feel and quality more akin to the Original Trilogy, than the Prequels. Get the familiar beats in there, a director who’d done well with rebooting a tricky Star Trek franchise, and a ton of PR bigging up - and paying homage and tribute to - the Original Trilogy.

And THEN evolve the films in the following stories/films - taking more chances (ie, Rogue One - where the theme, content, style and ‘modernisation’ - as well as aspects not previously shown before, ie the ‘grey’ or dark’ in the Rebellion - the unpleasant face of the Alliance) - with later films.

Here’s to a somewhat different story to what we have seen before with Star Wars in The Last Jedi… 😃

But… but… but… where are you going? Uh… come back!!

Hal 9000 said:

Well, is it time to fire up the offensive weapons via Twitter?

I liked this one - https://twitter.com/originaltrilogy/status/853439448029081600 - very clever - and one to use for the future too 😃

Bingowings said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

CatBus said:

this is really more about getting May out from under that “temporary caretaker government” shadow after Cameron left?

I don’t think she is seen as a “temporary caretaker government” at all, she was the overwhelmingly popular candidate for Party Leader/PM. I think it’s more about shutting up dissenting voices (of all parties) in Parliament of the “Yes we agree you’ve got a mandate for Brexit, Prime Minister… but not this kind of Brexit!” variety. She’s going to ask the country clearly and directly “Do you want a Brexit on my terms?”. The electorate will most probably answer, “Yes please!” emphatically and she can get on with the business of doing just that.

CatBus said:

Is my understanding correct that this isn’t really expected to change anything substantive? i.e. the people, parliamentary percentages, policies, etc, aren’t really expected to change much at all

Not really, I think things will change quite a bit because the Labour opposition party will most likely be wiped out due in large part to how deeply unpopular their leader (and cabinet) is, which I’m sad to say is probably for their own good in the medium to long term. Hopefully the Lib-Dem party will get back some seats after they were annihilated at the last election.

I think the general consensus is that the Conservative party will win.
This is possibly a misjudgement. When Gordon Brown the most unpopular PM for aeons finally got around to doing what May is doing here after inheriting a gulf war mess from Blair all the Tories could manage was a coalition. They were expected to lose the last election or have to make another coalition with UKIP or some other party.
The secret ingrediant to their majority was Brexit. UKIPers flipped sides to insure they got the referendum. Scotland evicted Labour for supporting the Conservatives and the Liberals lost their nice guy image propping up the Tories in coalition and breaking their manifesto pledges.
We have now a slightly different world. Brexit has happenend, it can’t unhappen so UKIP doesn’t need to exist anymore. Austerity isn’t working and isn’t popular. The SNP need someone the can do business with in Downing Street and May is not that PM.
Corbyn has always been anti-EU (just like Tony Benn). The old Labour zealots that voted Tory to get Brexit may return to the fold now that Brexit is unavoidable. The people that voted Tory as a protest against Blair and Brown will now vote Green rather than vote for the Tories.
My prediction Corbyn will suprise everyone by narrowly winning with the remainers voting against the Conservatives with the same zeal that the Brexiteers voted for them.
That’s if he stays of the hills and doesn’t have a heart attack.

I hope you’re proven right mate.

CatBus said:

oojason said:

Theresa May, the current British Prime Minister, has called a General Election to be held on Thursday 8th June…

(which is a bit of a U-turn - even for her)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39629603

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/apr/18/theresa-may-uk-general-election-8-june

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-calls-election-times-she-said-there-would-be-no-snap-election-a7688471.html

 

How do you call an early election? - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39630209

Is my understanding correct that this isn’t really expected to change anything substantive? i.e. the people, parliamentary percentages, policies, etc, aren’t really expected to change much at all, but this is really more about getting May out from under that “temporary caretaker government” shadow after Cameron left?

Basically what Ryan McAvoy said - unless there some shocks or leaked surprises coming out soon (cough, election expenses fraud and fallout of, cough) it seems the Tories will likely win this. It’d be interesting if Corbyn came out and stated if Labour got in he would reverse Brexit - or stage a 2nd referendum, or give the Scots a 2nd referendum too - but that is very unlikely to happen.

Labour have struggled to get their message across in the media - a majority right-wing media and a frightened BBC - but just haven’t been able to engage with the floating voters or people who would consider voting for them. That said, they struggled to do that with more centrist Labour politicians in charge too. I don’t see that changing - the media like others have said will target divisions within Labour - and not give time/space to the actual message or pointing out failings/shortcomings of the Govt etc.

So, it looks like we’re in for more ‘austerity’ (when it’s actually under the guise of Tory idealogy) on top of the 7 years we’ve already endured - more cuts to local govt services, more cuts NHS and emergency services, more cuts to social care, more cuts to benefits, more cuts to the disabled, more cuts to schools, less job security, more cuts to freedoms, more cuts to free/subsidised legal access, a country of less equality…

and more money to ‘free’ schools, grammars, more privatisation, more pollution, more children in poverty, more pensioners choosing either heat or food, more food banks and use of, more homelessness, more zero hour contracts, more arms sold to Arab states with horrific human rights, and more money to London at expense of elsewhere - and top of that a higher cost of living due to the coming (and already happening) effects of Brexit.

No wonder the Prime Minster won’t go on a tv debate with the other leaders - it’s a no win situation for her (and debating is not her strong point - not from her displays in the HoC anyway).

She just has to shut up and let the media do the work for her (along with an Opposition still infighting).

Fuck.

Theresa May, the current British Prime Minister, has called a General Election to be held on Thursday 8th June…

(which is a bit of a U-turn - even for her)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39629603

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/apr/18/theresa-may-uk-general-election-8-june

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-calls-election-times-she-said-there-would-be-no-snap-election-a7688471.html

How do you call an early election? - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39630209

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

MalàStrana said:

TV’s Frink said:

I

LOL

ASS

Being a bit harsh on asses there mate. Whilst they are quite stubborn at times they are also quite intelligent, friendly, quite playful, and keen to learn and display their skill sets.

Mala on the other hand has not demonstrated anything like those abilities with his repeated critique of someone else’s opinion of the Rogue One film. Though, to be fair, he did seemingly put his all into it - and am sure his teachers still have hopes for him to improve further when he reaches big school.

Sougouk said:

I have the Single of Batman (1989) soundtrack on cassette. It had Batdance & 200 Balloons.

Batdance! Such a cool album back then - remembering just how hot Kim Basinger was, and how cool it was to have a Batman film out back then 😃

Weirdly, it wasn’t until a lot later than began to fully appreciate Prince - a very underrated guitarist in his own right.

TV’s Frink said:

I had that in college, sold it just after getting out of college. Still love a few songs, especially Looking Glass.

An album of our age, likely 😃

Love Timeless Melody, Way Out and Feelin’ too - many a late Saturday night chilling out back at someone’s flat or room and trying to impress the girls back in the day…

Cast did some pretty decent stuff late on too.

^ what Fo says makes a lot of sense - spending some time with them, sharing in their happiness may give you extra information, insight and empathy with the path they have chosen. And to be there for your brother in time of a big decision from him will hopefully bring you even closer together too - as well as his fiance.

Best wishes to you and your family Mike O 😃

Mocata said:

oojason said:
The CinemaSins people will hopefully be doing their take on Rogue One soon 😃

Eww

I like the sound of the bell they use - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvkZ8sCd5EI - ting! 😃

It’s no Earthling Cinema with Garyx Wormuloid, but what is? - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLghL9V9QTN0hRWpPpyh6T7_V2Nmah6rHj

^ beautifully done - really good work - and a very cool idea too 😃

Hope it makes it into the Edit - definitely adds to her character and foreshadows her abilities shown later on.

CinemaWins ‘everything great about Rogue One’ video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJuF9n2c248

The CinemaSins people will hopefully be doing their take on Rogue One soon 😃

Alderaan said:

oojason said:
Wait a minute… you didn’t like Rogue One

Correct.

oojason said:
the whole idea was stupid

Wrong. The execution was laughably bad. It had some good ideas.

oojason said:
and thought it was a bad movie?

It was.

oojason said:
This is brand new information. You should let others know immediately - and in case they don’t acknowledge your views - keep on repeating it ad nauseam.

Actually, in case you don’t know how to read, my post was a compliment for Doug Chiang. The Yavin 4 sets looked authentic. Even the new designs were mostly nice looking.

as stated ‘Maybe, to keep things ‘fresh’ add a line about vaguely liking something from it - I mean, you wouldn’t want to become the forum bore now, would you?’

The fact that you can’t stand any criticism of this movie, and expect this to be a fan thread, or a safe space, and even the sight of someone who dislikes the movie stopping in to compliment one of the artists involved in making it, makes you lose your mind, shows how deeply insecure you are about the quality of the movie you profess to be so good.

lol. If you don’t like it say why, other people have managed to do so, haven’t they? Quite well and thoughtful criticisms too, no? - though they don’t inanely repeat it so much as you it seems.

‘A safe space?’ ‘a fan thread?’ ‘lose my mind’? ‘insecure about the movie I profess to be so good’? ‘can’t stand any criticism of the movie’? Nice reaching and projecting from yourself there - but as already stated above (and previously) others have critiqued it quite well, or just put over how they felt about it, about what it lacked for them, the bad or dull points/bits, what aspects disappointed them, how’d they have liked to have seen it be different, or be improved upon etc - which is, and has been, fine by me. Which nullifies your ‘facts’, as you put it, no?

Now, congratulations on becoming the forum bore - but unfortunately in achieving this goal of yours - you have forgotten that very little of what you say is of interest, to the point where its just so boring and repetitive and I just can’t be bothered to even finish what I was going to say…

Sometimes it seems they are taking the mick with this 40th anniversary celebrations - they should really go with having the 20th anniversary Special Edition celebrations instead…

Or maybe have future anniversary celebrations for the later '04 & '11 versions as well - meaning more opportunities to sell the franchise/merchandise to fans (the same fans who can’t buy the version of the film that kicked the whole Star Wars thing off 40 years ago, and counting…)

Issue 172 (May 2017) of ‘Star Wars Insider’ doesn’t seem to mention the 40th Anniversary much at all…

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Wars_Insider_172
 

Issue 173 does feature 20th Anniversary articles on the Special Edition versions, of course…

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Wars_Insider_173

Alderaan said:

oojason said:

Star Wars: Celebration 2017 - 10 Things We Learned From Doug Chiang’s Rogue One Panel:-

http://www.starwars.com/news/swco-2017-10-things-we-learned-from-doug-chiangs-rogue-one-panel

Doug Chiang did a good job in this movie. I think K2SO’s design was over the top, and the temple extraction stuff was stupid looking, but that whole idea was stupid anyway. Just goes to show you that competent people can do good work in an otherwise bad movie.

Wait a minute… you didn’t like Rogue One, the whole idea was stupid and thought it was a bad movie?

This is brand new information. You should let others know immediately - and in case they don’t acknowledge your views - keep on repeating it ad nauseam.

Maybe, to keep things ‘fresh’ add a line about vaguely liking something from it - I mean, you wouldn’t want to become the forum bore now, would you?

^ 😃

Rogue One team talks about the tricks they used to make the film authentically Star Wars…

https://www.polygon.com/2017/4/14/15306190/making-of-rogue-one-star-wars-celebration?

SWCO2017: 5 Things We Learned from The Making Of Rogue One Panel…

http://www.starwars.com/news/swco-2017-5-highlights-from-the-making-of-rogue-one-panel

Felicity Jones and Forest Whitaker interview SWCO2017 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDDzHbhRgGQ

TV’s Frink said:

oojason said:

George does not look happy to be there.

I can’t remember the last time I saw a Star Wars photo op that he was happy/smiling in. Seems a bit selfish / self-centered not to even try and smile out of respect for the others there, especially given more and more people involved in those films are no longer with us. Though maybe he just doesn’t like smiling these days…

Just my two penneth.

Jetrell Fo said:

oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Napolitano wrote on March 16: “Sources have told me that the British foreign surveillance service, the Government Communications Headquarters, known as GCHQ, most likely provided Obama with transcripts of Trump’s calls.”

Notice he uses the words “most likely”. That is not him saying “it was absolutely” what happened. If anyone here thinks for one second that there is absolutely NO possibility beyond a doubt, that this couldn’t happen between close allies, you’d be kidding yourself. I never said it happened this way either but I do believe that the possibility that it did is far more likely.

There is no way allies would tell the world they committed a “treaty violation” to help out another nation. They would not want anyone to be considering such a thing that is why they wouldn’t want someone saying it publicly … it would put them in a spot they were trying to stay out of by being quite about it.

“Jetrell Fo said:
Why did they deny it vehemently when the story first broke but now they own up to it?”

Then there is nothing to own up to then at all, no? Despite your words clearly claiming ‘but now they have own up to it’)…

Well mate … there’s these … what do you make of them?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/17/andrew-napolitano-legal-analyst-first-claimed-gchq-asked-wiretap/

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/apr/13/british-spies-first-to-spot-trump-team-links-russia

Well, one of those articles was one of the three I posted originally. So what are you asking exactly?

I am only asking your opinion on their content, nothing more.

Ok, thought you may have wanted the contrast between the two.

The Telegraph piece highlights the ex-Judge’s unsubstantiated and uncorroborated claims - and seems none of his ‘three intelligence sources’ had much of an idea of what was actually going on - so much so it is surprising an ex-Judge, who apparently ‘an experienced legal affairs expert’, went ahead with those claims which were basically ‘hearsay’.

The Guardian piece is an account (like a fair few others around that time) of how British Intelligence tipped off the US, and other allies, about strange patterns of meetings between Russian agents (or suspected Russian agents) and some of Trump’s people, after monitoring/spying on the Russians.

Quite how you managed to link the 3 original pieces I listed to what this ex-Judge has incorrectly claimed recently (and then wrote ‘Why did they deny it vehemently when the story first broke but now they own up to it?’) is beyond me - I thought you were being deliberately ignorant or obtuse, were on a wind-up, or seemingly hadn’t read the full articles - as I’m struggling to come up with other reasons as to how/why you did.

As I stated I before…

'I thought the accusations from weeks ago were of British Intelligence spying on Trump/ Trump Towers on behalf of the American Security Services? Whereas the news linked by me is of the British giving a heads-up to their US counterparts after trailing/spying on Russian counterparts and possible Russian agents - going back some time - and as to a pattern emerging over meetings with Trump’s people (along with article that has the ex-MI6 Chief thinking that Trump may have borrowed money from Russia to help keep his empire afloat around the time of the financial crisis in 2008(-ish)).

I think they are two very different things - and the British Services were correct in denying that were spying on Trump/Trump Towers on behalf of the US Services.

The US and Brits, along with other allies often keep each other abreast of information and goings on (though likely keep the really interesting stuff from each other 😉)’

Thankfully, it seems we’ve moved on to other subjects.