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Rogue One - Rescored

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Hi there!

I’m currently working on a Rescore for Rogue One as I thought the music didn’t do the film justice at all. Nothing against Giacchino but I think the score just ended up being too “Disney” and not really adding much on a emotional level.
So I’m cutting together new tracks out of existing scores and if the 5.1. mix has no or little music in the center channel, it should be relatively easy to put it in.

Would you guys be interested in a version with a different score?

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A lot of the music in the movie felt like fan film music. What do I mean by that? It’s music that’s different enough to avoid copyright infringement, but similar enough that you what it’s supposed to be. Like that Imperial theme that’s not quite the Imperial March, but sounds an awful lot like it. The thing is, they have the rights to the songs, so there’s no need to do that.

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My take is that the main saga should have the good music by Williams. Side films like this should follow in line with Clone Wars and Rebels. They use the same themes, but the music is completely different. So I’m good with how the Rogue One score came out. It was Star Wars enough in the same way the film was.

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The score was pants. One thing I liked though was the evocation of the Death Star fanfare and the original Imperial theme. I always thought the PT jumped to the Imperial March too quickly.

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Mink2301 said:

if the 5.1. mix has no or little music in the center channel, it should be relatively easy to put it in.

If it isn’t that simple?

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Thanks guys! I’ll share some more updates along the way!

Jeebus said:

Mink2301 said:

if the 5.1. mix has no or little music in the center channel, it should be relatively easy to put it in.

If it isn’t that simple?

Well, then it might be very difficult to replace any music. The rescore would most likely be too loud because it would need to overpower the original score. It probably won’t sound any good.

But I’ve “rescored” other movies before where you wouldn’t have thought that their mix would leave room for new music (Sunhshine, Prometheus), so finger’s crossed 😃

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I think it really depends on how intensive the rescore is. There are parts of the score that work well and could be left as is. The real issues will arise when you are trying to rescore scenes with dialogue and/or with very loud music. Battle scenes are relatively ok if you can find the correct sound fx to fill in the lost sound. Does the new battlefront have a file folder with rogue one sound files? That would be a good start.

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DigMod said:

I think it really depends on how intensive the rescore is. There are parts of the score that work well and could be left as is. The real issues will arise when you are trying to rescore scenes with dialogue and/or with very loud music. Battle scenes are relatively ok if you can find the correct sound fx to fill in the lost sound. Does the new battlefront have a file folder with rogue one sound files? That would be a good start.

Yes, this would definitely apply to an “unfavorable” mix where the original music is presented rather loud.
Very good idea to check the Battlefront sounds library! Although of course creating a SFX/dialogue only version would be very time consuming if at all possible.

If the rumors are true we’Ll have the blue ray on March 28th, so not that long from now on to find out 😃

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Good luck with this. I would suggest using Shadows of the Empire soundtrack, classic themes but the viewer wouldn’t recognize them as ripped from an old movie.

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Thanks for the suggestion! However, my goal is actually to make the score less Star Wars. Giacchino’s original, albeit largely ignoring the drama and being generic, already has that vibe to it.
What I’m trying is to give the music more depth and impact on an emotional level. Make it more serious. Thematically it’ll probably be less coherent than the original score, but again, putting emphasize on the human drama and an overall adult tone of the film is what I’m aiming for.
However, I’m going to use snippets from William’s original trilogy scores, namely The Imperial March for parts of Vader’s scenes as well as the Death Star motif from A New Hope. I think both of those make sense to be in the movie.

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Mink2301 said:

Thanks for the suggestion! However, my goal is actually to make the score less Star Wars.

Very interesting idea. I might suggest watching some war movies and paying attention to their scores, and trying to emulate that style.

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I’d definitely be more interested in a rescore that tries to make the film sound less Star Warsy.

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Jeebus said:

Mink2301 said:

Thanks for the suggestion! However, my goal is actually to make the score less Star Wars.

Very interesting idea. I might suggest watching some war movies and paying attention to their scores, and trying to emulate that style.

Thank you guys! I’m happy to hear that a more non-classical Star Wars approach is also appealing to some of you 😃
The war movie suggestion is a good one! I might use some of the more serious one’s. There’ll be no Dirty Dozen or Delta Force in it for sure 😉

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The music is unfortunately mixed equally loud across all channels, the Center Channel is full of it.
Unless a SFX/dialogue only track miraculously appears, this project is dead.

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This film really needs to be re-scored. I found the music from the rogue one trailers, featurettes, and celebration reels superior. It had a more emotional feel to me.

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I’ve been using some John Williams War of the Worlds cues in my TFA edit and I think that soundtrack would be a great source for Rogue One. I’ll probably end up using it in my own edit in the near future.

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