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Using that, my prediction still keeps pretty much the same, although I belive Brazil can move a bit further.

1- Argentina
2- Holland
3- Brazil
4- Italy
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i havent seen holland play yet so i cant comment. but i didnt find italy that convincing, ill have to watch them more closely.
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Using that predictor I got:

1. Brazil
2. Germany
3. England
4. Czech Republic

England met Brazil in the semis and sadly I had to bet against them (although I think on a good England day and a bad Brazil day, England could be victorious, and if it was an England Germany final, England would lose on penalties).

Originally posted by: Shimraa
my bets for the final are england, cezh, brasil, or argentina.
Glad you're getting into it Shim, just like You, Sybe, Zion and Dayv got me into Hockey.

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hahaha yeah i have always been a fringe soccar fan. the only reason i am not as big on it as i am with hockey is cause there is no coverage in North America. but yeah i love soccer, the two sports i play the most are soccer and hockey, so its just natural now that there's coverage i am all into it.
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Ecuador go through to the knockout stages of the World Cup after beating Costa Rica 3-0 - was a pretty decent game too.

Seems like Ecuador and Germany will go through to meet one of England, Sweden, Paraguay or Trinidad & Tobago in the next round...

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Whoa, Trinidad almost put one in, but a last ditch HUGE save by a field player with the keeper out of the net. Halftime, still 0-0.
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Originally posted by: maddog00
Whoa, Trinidad almost put one in, but a last ditch HUGE save by a field player with the keeper out of the net. Halftime, still 0-0.
Yeah, John Terry is officially my hero. Hotrod's right - England still need to sort it out, but all in all I'm happy with their performance, and both goals were good-uns. At least they haven't conceded a goal yet, but then again they haven't really faced any major opponents. Sweden on Tuesday will be about the toughest challenge so far, but I'm pretty sure we can take 'em.

And so far my bet is still alive, but I really need USA to win on saturday...

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They are reporting that Ronaldo felt sick, with some migraine, and was rushed into a hospital in Frankfurt. Last time he got sick in a World Cup, back in 1998 when he had a seizure hours before the final against France, Brazil turned apathic and lost. I am quite sure the same will happen this time. Ronaldo is the past.
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We can only wonder at what is reallygoing on with Ronaldo behind closed doors. '98 was (and still is) a big mystery.

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yeah that is very strange, 98 was too long ago for my to actually remember much. all i know is that france won that year.
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Have to say England were dull tonight - bereft of attacking ideas and any fast paces incisive movement. One of the few pluses is that obviously we are through to the next round - but will have to improve dramatically if we wish to progress any further.

If teams like Paraguay and Trinidad & Tobago can stifle England, I'm sure the better teams will attempt to do so too - whilst carrying more of a goal threat themsleves...


It seems so many things are wrong with the current selection - Neville has been injured for a qute a bit of the season - yet Sven does not bring a 2nd choice natural right back. Carragher is head and shoulders above Ferdinand as a central defender - yet Sven picks Rio instead. Ashley Cole looks half the player we know he can be - it is apparent he is not fit enough to perform anywhere like his best - yet the 2nd choice left back hasn't played that much either...

Gerrard and Lampard still don't look right in centre midfield - one of them has to be dropped so the other has the freedom to do what they do so well at club level - with a proper defensive midfielder behind them. The one time Gerrard got into that position he scored - Lampard had about 3 opportunites and missed - whilst doing very little else. Joe Cole on the left is very limited - if he does drift inside he has to play the ball in to an unfit Owen - which is a low percentage tactic. I can't recall him staying wide and putting in a cross for Crouch in the two games so far. Worryingly Owen looks far from match fit - he is labouring and feeding off Crouch's scraps - and not doing that too well either. Hopefully a return to form will come soon - but again a lack of matches this seaon and Sven picking no cover leaves him with little choice...

Rooney did ok considering he has been out for so long - yet he did look a little sluggish - understandably. More games and he should get back in to the rythymn he so needs. Beckham did well on the cross for the goal - yet was upstaged by Lennon's cameo performance - as a captain he failed miserably too. Again, maybe Lennon doing so well will give him the kick up the arse he needs to get back to playing well. Very strange that Sven took Carragher off at right back and brought Lennon on as right wing - with Beckham playing almost as a wiong-back - sends out the wrong meessage to any good team scouting England on that performance - and about Sven's lack of bottle in general.

I've had a bit to drink - and not all of this may make sense in them orning when sober - but right now am glad we won - but we have looked incompetent against 2 sides that we should have brushed aside more convincingly display-wise.


Forgot to say - kudos to Trinidad & TObago for holding England so well - 10 minutes away fom securing their 2nd point of the World Cup and giving themselves a great chance of qualifying if they beat Paraguay in their final game - gotta feel for them - played really well and admire them for it.

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You know, after seeing all these problems Ronaldo has been going through, one thought came to mind: what if he's doing drugs?
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
You know, after seeing all these problems Ronaldo has been going through, one thought came to mind: what if he's doing drugs?
I'm positive there is some dark secret behind Ronaldo's 'health' problems. I'm thinking he's either on drugs, or he has some weird mental problem where he just doesn't want to play and makes an excuse (maybe the pressure of being, at one time, the most talked about man in football?), or maybe he is being threatened by some sinister group to throw games. I don't know, but there's something not right.

EDIT: And I agree with everything oojason said, even if he is drunk - he's still making more sense than Sven.

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you wanna know the funny thing? no one would be talking rumours about ronaldo if he was playing for the US. *shrug*

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Half the USA team could fall sick tomorrow and it probably wouldn't have as big an effect on the World Cup as Ronaldo being out and Brazil possibly losing their drive as a result.

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Last night was another unconvincing performance from England, although we got the result, we need to improve if we are to make it beyond the last 16.

I'd like to see us knock several goals past Sweden on Tuesday to give T&T a chance of qualifying, but our international record against them is abysmal.

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Have been told by someone who has links with Madrid that Ronaldo is suffereing from 'renal problems' - partly brought on my dieting unhealthily (after almost binging) combined with the physical demands of being a pro footballer. If so a shame - but goes to show what happens if you abuse your body for years whilst being a pro sportsman - eventually it will catch up with you - and in a big way.

Apparently he is alos having problems with his agent and his close cirlce of friedns at the moment - so his head may be not be 'right' recently either...

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Argentina are 3-0 at half-time vs Serbia & Montenegro - a qaulity display throughout by the Argies - esp the 2nd goal - a 24-pass move cutting open the Serbs and resulting in a fine finish.

They do look very good...

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Originally posted by: oojason
They do look very good...
Yeah they do. Final score: 6-0.

I hate Argentina though.

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Holland are looking very good at the mo as well: 2-0 up with 30 mins gone...
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i think ppl underestimate argentina.

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No Way - they are one of the most feared teams. I just hate them because they seem arrogant and play dirty.

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Argentina is known for blatantly cheating and playing dirty, but that's how they play.
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a bit off topic, but i am digging the hell out of watching the games streamed live on my work desktop. espn360 is my best friend at work. of course, i'd rather watch them on my home television, but this is better than nothing.