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nto wanting to derail mike's thread, but helping is posting it once in one thread. not in multiple threads and PM'ing people twice with the same thing.
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Is this project still going on? If so how far long along is it?

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Mike, sent you a PM.

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Thats great Mike, I cant wait til after you have completed the movie and have time to update your site.

I know its an on going process but do you have a ballpark idea on when you might complete the movie ?

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Mike, I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on color correction and recovering detail from dark areas from the '04 set. It seems to me that there is a lot more than an across the board CC (it's almost akin to a full DI). Do you think it's possible to return to the original colors, or are you not attempting that? Similarly, with the loss of detail (illustrated nicely in your "Crunch Time" editorial) - isn't there stuff that's gone, never to return?
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In some ways, I'd say it does resemble an atrocious DI, "brute-force" CC, but in reality, it's actually pretty localized. There's no question that someone just cranked the saturation up on a ton of stuff - things like R2-D2's blues, most likely trying to get his completely different ANH-paint formula to match the brighter tones of later films. But also, there are shitloads of super-saturated reds in the film. Lots of lobster people, and lipstick wearing men. And then there are all the glows that were eaten off by Lowry's algorithm. That's a well-known drawback to his methods, by the way, versus doing it frame-by-frame by hand. His algorithms tend to eat the glints out of people's eyes and glow and haze and a bunch of stuff.

In any case, the way I've been getting back to the colors is through a LOT of rotoing, or clever use of remapping colorspace to get finer control. It changes from scene to scene. For example, I might take a scene and remap the colorspace from RGB to HLS so I can bump the saturation without adding artifacts, or compensate for created artifacts. That is, I can extract just the saturation information (or saturation for a specific range of color), and perhaps blur it a touch before (sometimes after) a levels adjustment. Or another thing I've done, when I've had to roll a color temperature around, which undoubtedly creates new artifacts, is isolate those artifacts either by color or finding them in an isolated channel in a different colorspace, and re-applying the source compression to just that channel, recovering a "non-distorted" version of the new color.

Lots of tricks like that, plus some custom software tools keep me artifact-free, while having near-DI control. And like I said, a LOT of roto work. As for the shadow detail, sometimes it's actually in there, and if you pull it out, you have to deal with all the resultant noise you generate, but you totally can. In other cases, I will use bits and pieces from other transfers, to enhance another plate. For example, I might isolate a range of colors from a 2004 scene, and apply them in a sort of transfer to an earlier transfer. But again, you have to do a lot of colorspace remapping to isolate aspects of the image, and then reapply. But you have almost limitless control.

_Mike

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Mike, the level of detail and meticulous care and precision you are using to get the most accurate restoration of the unaltered Star Wars trilogy possible is quite impressive.

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Thanks a lot for your detailed reply, Mike.
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Please excuse my ignorance, but what is DI?

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It's the process of scanning the negative in hi-res (2k or 4k) and then working on the image scene-by-scene (and ususally shot-by-shot) with sophisticated image manipulation software which allows much more in-depth work than traditional color correction, working into specific hues and/or areas of the image. The end result is then usually printed back out to film (although George Lucas, among others, wants it all to be digitally projected one day). It is the computer-age replacement for optical color-timing, although it is possible to do a lot more with a DI, with the consequence that everyone usually does a lot more (see Lord of the Rings et al).
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Mverta, approx how much of ANH percentage wise have you had to alter?
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I thought it was going to be five minutes of Legacy footage . It is amaing what LFL could have done to make them look just a bit better.
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I thought it was going to be 5 mins of Legacy as well.

Thats amazing how good you got that to look in 5 mins time, WHY THE HELL DO YOU TEASE US LIKE THAT. I seriously wish I never saw that because Im always going to be thinking how much of a better version I could be watching (Not that I bought the 06 release) but what a bummer, I am bummed right out and Im starting to realize why so many people are giving up completely on Star Wars anymore.

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Damn... That's pretty darn good.

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Edit

*Had to go off my rocker and be a complete jerk for no good reason*

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Have fun with that. There are plenty of other talented people on this forum to leech off of.
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nicely done Mike - cheers for making the effort to show us what could be possible, if LFL could have been bothered...

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For the record, GhostAlpha, neither you or I will ever have a chance to drive the fastest, most advanced car ever produced. We won't be riding the space shuttle any time soon, either.

... I assume you won't be attending any screenings of the Legacy Edition, then?

_Mike

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