Rogue One * Spoilers * Thread — Page 25

SilverWook said:

They digitally covered up Natalie Portman for the Your Highness trailer. 😉

I really miss there was no room for a “Slave Padmé” scene in the PT…

SilverWook said:

ROTS and TFA were PG-13 though.

And was the Force Awakens submitted to the MPAA or the BBFC with Chewbacca ripping the aliens arms out of it’s sockets in the bar?

Hell no.

Studios self censor them selves the film boards now just stamp it whatever points it get’s. I doubt there is much re-submission of films these days. It’s all pre-prepared for submission so as any unpleasant surprises can be avoided and there is no skating on the limit.

The censors won, movie studio’s lost and don’t want to fight like they used to. Or try to get away with having more fun. I can understand ROTS getting PG-13 but the TFA was like a weak PG nobody had an argument about anything apart from Kylo throwing a tantrum. Zero Abrasiveness.

I think the interrogation/torture scenes pretty much warrant a PG-13 rating. Someone on TheForce.net claims that in one of their viewings parents covered their kids eyes when Kylo was mind probing Rey. Even as a 21 year old man I have found myself kind of uncomfortable when viewing that scene.

There are other things like Finn saying “Hell no”, his horrific injury at the hand of Kylo Ren, Poe’s face being bloody during the interrogation scene etc. that makes it obvious why this is a PG-13 film.

Lord Haseo said:

I think the interrogation/torture scenes pretty much warrant a PG-13 rating. Someone on TheForce.net claims that in one of their viewings parents covered their kids eyes when Kylo was mind probing Rey.

Seriously if you watch he never touches Rey and he also takes his mask off changing him from a monster to a softly spoken young lad. There is nothing remotely hinting at torture in the scene. You can bet there was a version where he kept his mask on though. To top it off Rey succeeds in torturing the bad guy’s emotions (Kylo Ren) whilst tied up using the force to read his mind.

@Frank it was filmed but removed but it was to do with the joke made in star wars about “Let the Wookie win”. Maz Katana’s bar.

Ronster said:

Lord Haseo said:

I think the interrogation/torture scenes pretty much warrant a PG-13 rating. Someone on TheForce.net claims that in one of their viewings parents covered their kids eyes when Kylo was mind probing Rey.

Seriously if you watch he never touches Rey and he also takes his mask off changing him from a monster to a softly spoken young lad. There is nothing remotely hinting at torture in the scene. You can bet there was a version where he kept his mask on though.

He touched and violated her mind with the Force. He even made one of the most rapey statements I ever heard when he said “I can take whatever I want”. Him taking off the mask is an interesting event as it could hint he knew her somehow pre TFA. I hope a version of the interrogation scene does surface when Kylo has the mask on as it would be good for the fanediting community

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaand this is why I don’t bother dissecting trailers.

MalàStrana said:

SilverWook said:

They digitally covered up Natalie Portman for the Your Highness trailer. 😉

I really miss there was no room for a “Slave Padmé” scene in the PT…

Duracell sock confirmed.

I believe the opening sequence was enough for a PG-13 rating:

• old man being killed (off screen though) ;
• villagers being executed (off screen again but the amount of violence implied is enough) ;
• and there is the dying trooper finger painting blood on Finn’s helmet ;
• not to mention the frighten and desparate alien being arrested by the troopers.

And yeah the first mind probing sequence is cherry on top. You also get three guys (one trooper by Finn, one samurai guy in Rey’s vision, and Indiana Jones) getting saber pierced in front shots.

It’s not as violent as ROTS is, but I can understand the rating… in the US/UK at least.

Lors San Tekka’s death was shown on screen. It wasn’t an up close shot like Kylo killing Han or “The Clan” member but it was definitely shown.

In the UK ESB was a U.

Lord Haseo said:

Ronster said:

Lord Haseo said:

I think the interrogation/torture scenes pretty much warrant a PG-13 rating. Someone on TheForce.net claims that in one of their viewings parents covered their kids eyes when Kylo was mind probing Rey.

Seriously if you watch he never touches Rey and he also takes his mask off changing him from a monster to a softly spoken young lad. There is nothing remotely hinting at torture in the scene. You can bet there was a version where he kept his mask on though.

He touched and violated her mind with the Force. He even made one of the most rapey statements I ever heard when he said “I can take whatever I want”.

Foot massage?

It was always going to be PG by today’s strictness it’s just how close to R/15 it would be and that is nowhere near R or 15 and It does not make a film better by being more violent or what ever but it also does not help all this worrying about offending people or getting obsessed with studio’s doing self censorship before submission. Political correctness is stiffling.

A film still needs to be fun and also needs to be educational at the same time. What messages you can take away from censoring somone with a grazed head are not only odorous but also ominous. What is the point?

SilverWook said:

You can say “Hell” and even “Damn” in a G rated film. At least one used to be able to.

Just FYI I watched Zatoichi (well half of it) last night, it was getting a bit late but I referred to Donnie Yen’s character being blind and compared his character to zatoichi.

Whilst watching the film the English subtitles instead of referring to Zatoichi as being “Blind” the subtitles exclaimed him as “Visually impaired”.

This is the world we live in now. But I do not understand why a condition someone suffers, and may I add is not said in malice to explain such a condition that they have should be altered to please some nutter.

Ronster said:

Lord Haseo said:

Ronster said:

Lord Haseo said:

I think the interrogation/torture scenes pretty much warrant a PG-13 rating. Someone on TheForce.net claims that in one of their viewings parents covered their kids eyes when Kylo was mind probing Rey.

Seriously if you watch he never touches Rey and he also takes his mask off changing him from a monster to a softly spoken young lad. There is nothing remotely hinting at torture in the scene. You can bet there was a version where he kept his mask on though.

He touched and violated her mind with the Force. He even made one of the most rapey statements I ever heard when he said “I can take whatever I want”.

Foot massage?

???

What messages you can take away from censoring somone with a grazed head are not only odorous but also ominous. What is the point?

Nothing. I hope they add it back. They’re marketing this as a war film so we should see some gore. I don’t want Quentin Tarantino type gore but something. If it’s okay to see Aunt Beru and Uncle Owen’s burnt corpses then it should be okay to see blood on a guy’s forehead.

SilverWook said:

Lord Haseo said:

I think the interrogation/torture scenes pretty much warrant a PG-13 rating. Someone on TheForce.net claims that in one of their viewings parents covered their kids eyes when Kylo was mind probing Rey. Even as a 21 year old man I have found myself kind of uncomfortable when viewing that scene.

There are other things like Finn saying “Hell no”, his horrific injury at the hand of Kylo Ren, Poe’s face being bloody during the interrogation scene etc. that makes it obvious why this is a PG-13 film.

You can say “Hell” and even “Damn” in a G rated film. At least one used to be able to.

It was a simpler and better time back then.

ZkinandBonez said:

Ronster said:

Just FYI I watched Zatoichi (well half of it) last night,

Huh? Zatoichi is like 25 films and a whole TV series, how do you watch “half” of it in one evening.

The Kitano remake is simply called “Zatoichi”.

ZkinandBonez said:

MalàStrana said:

ZkinandBonez said:

Ronster said:

Just FYI I watched Zatoichi (well half of it) last night,

Huh? Zatoichi is like 25 films and a whole TV series, how do you watch “half” of it in one evening.

The Kitano remake is simply called “Zatoichi”.

Ah, right. I completely forgot about that version.

And since we’re at it, you mentioned 25 films earlier: don’t forget the 26th episode released in 1989. Still don’t know why Criterion (and Wild Side in France) didn’t release this one (it can however be found as a zone 1 edition).