Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo — Page 246

Possessed said:

Warbler said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Dek Rollins said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Dek Rollins said:

Warbler said:

Well, you said I did the SAME THING when you were temp-banned that I did today. We both agree that today I posted a clapping gif to show agreement with a post of Darth Ender’s. Therefore you must think that when I posted the clapping gif when you were temp banned, I must have been doing so to show agreement with a post of Darth Ender’s. So again I ask, which post of Darth Ender’s do you think I was agreeing with?

it was Ender’s “victim card” post.

Piss off Dek … I was perfectly clear.

You brought up the fact that he posted a gif when you were temp banned, and that seemed to be the biggest issue of confusion in the conversation. When Warb asked for further clarification because he wasn’t fully understanding your statements, you blew him of and didn’t answer the question. And no, I won’t piss off, because I was trying to clarify it simply for Warb when you apparently refused to do so.

He got you to think he was confused. He did post the Orson Welles applauding gif when I got temp-banned because he had already stated he was looking forward to it happening so him doing it in an innocent way was a no brainer and related to his Orson Welles applauding for rule#6 in the updated rules thread. Making innocent is just a loophole.

This gif was Shia LeBouf applauding because he agreed with enders post talking shit about me being a “victim”. Something else warbler has shown approval for. He knew I would get it but he again did it in a way that wouldn’t make it look as if he was “openly” breaking rule #6.

warbler got sloppy with his little modus operandi so I said something. Making himself again looking innocent by saying he doesn’t understand … he’s not as innocent and his posting around the forum shows he’s more knowledgeable than he’s saying he is now.

It’s the last I’m saying on the matter. I hate that I let myself get bent about this stuff but finding ways to circumvent the rules innocently is still breaking the rules. I’m not trying to be a jerk to you Dek, I’m just ticked off that this shit never stops and most everyone is okay with it.

1. I posted the gif when rule 6 was announced because I was agreeing with it and nothing more, it had nothing do with looking forward to seeing you get banned.

2. I posted the gif when you got temp-banned, “for something or another”. If you can prove I was doing because you got temp-banned, prove it.

3. I posted the gif today because I agreed with Ender’s post.

4. None of the three above had anything to do with each other, except they happen to include a clapping gif. They were not part of deep plot or conspiracy to “get you”. n

5. You are completely crazy and deluded.

6. Take your persecution and victim complexes and your conspiracy theories and your tin foil hat and shove them up your ass.

I’ll admit that I sure was glad when you were banned, no bones about it. I hope it happens again too. The sad thing is I’m sure you’re a nice guy but your presence on this forum is a constant irritation. Every time I start to think you’re getting easier to tolerate you stay up with the bullshit again.

Are you talking to me or Jetrell Fo?

He’s talking to Fo.

Yeah, I think he just quoted you by accident.

I quoted you with the intention of only quoting the part where you explained #2 but editing quotes is a pain in the ass on my phone so I just left it. But yeah I wasn’t talking to you. “It’s unknown” who I was talking about.

It was probably neglify.

Possessed said:

I quoted you with the intention of only quoting the part where you explained #2 but editing quotes is a pain in the ass on my phone so I just left it. But yeah I wasn’t talking to you. “It’s unknown” who I was talking about.

It was probably neglify.

Ok then.

DuracellEnergizer said:

“Wow. Such thread. So politic.”

Forum politics are politics too!

My kingdom for an ignore feature.

DuracellEnergizer said:

My kingdom for an ignore feature.

You say that now.

😉

Ryan McAvoy said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

Jetrell Fo said:

CatBus said:

SilverWook said:

Seems like some senators are more interested in grilling Sally Yates over her opposition to Trumpy’s travel ban order than the stuff they’re supposed to be talking about today. A–holes.

The one where her views on the Muslim Ban were quickly and repeatedly vindicated by federal court opinions? That one?

Weird because it was never a “muslim” ban and most of the list was sorted by the Obama administration.

From the Washington Post…

On July 24 last year, Trump sat for an interview with Chuck Todd on “Meet the Press”. Todd prodded Trump on whether his new proposal targeting specific countries represents a “rollback” of his original Muslim ban. Trump denied that it was a rollback at all:

TRUMP: I don’t think so. I actually don’t think it’s a rollback. In fact, you could say it’s an expansion. I’m looking now at territories. People were so upset when I used the word Muslim. Oh, you can’t use the word Muslim. Remember this. And I’m okay with that, because I’m talking territory instead of Muslim.

If you take this in the “muslim ban” context

You are implying there is an “if” there, when there isn’t. It’s Trump’s own words.

Jetrell Fo said:

I could see how one might see it that way

I think you mean “Trump saw it that way”. It’s Trump’s own words.

Jetrell Fo said:

even Muslims here understood the basis for the concern due to the radicals amongst them which they did not support.

That’s irrelvant to the point you were making. You said “it was never a muslim ban”. Trump said it was, it’s Trump’s own words.

The Constitution of the United States implicitly allows the President to make these types of decisions whether you and I like it or not. Instead of requiring only radical muslims to be vetted to hell and back before they can enter it requires all people from those countries including Muslims to go through it before entering. It was done this way so as not to discriminate against religious freedoms.

darthrush said:

This whole debacle has become annoying as shit, regardless of who is in the right or wrong. It literally is sucking all the joy and life of the forum.

I agree 100%. If people who say they aren’t going to get involved and complain about this stuff wouldn’t get involved and then continue drag it out in other threads it wouldn’t get like it does. I can only affect or take blame for my own participation but I am not the only one participating so the others will have to speak for themselves.

The Constitution does not give the President the ability to discriminate against a religion, which is exactly what a Muslim ban does.

TV’s Frink said:

The Constitution does not give the President the ability to discriminate against a religion, which is exactly what a Muslim ban does.

Ric Olie picture inserted here.

The part that is the problem is the VISA’s. There is a clause to the constitutional ammendment which gives the President this ability with regards to protection of people with VISA’s so they are not declined renewal due to Religious affiliation. If they already do not have VISA’s the President can legally keep them from entering, legally.

Sally Yates was fired because she used this clause to say no to the EO without letting it go through the courts first like she was supposed to.

Donald Trump is going to stay in power for the rest of his natural life. The Russia scandal won’t sink him, he might even stop the investigations altogether in the coming weeks. Even if he somehow leaves office after two terms, he has already changed the Supreme Court for the next forty years, so any action against right-wing hegemony will be struck down immediately.

Meanwhile, the standard of living is going to plummet hard, as over half of Americans will be living under the poverty line by 2050, most people won’t even live past sixty, and a few dozen extremely rich families will make more money in a couple hours than 300 million combined in their lifetime. We will be worse off than the poorest African countries are today.

And there is nothing we can do about it.

generalfrevious said:

Donald Trump is going to stay in power for the rest of his natural life. The Russia scandal won’t sink him, he might even stop the investigations altogether in the coming weeks. Even if he somehow leaves office after two terms, he has already changed the Supreme Court for the next forty years, so any action against right-wing hegemony will be struck down immediately.

Meanwhile, the standard of living is going to plummet hard, as over half of Americans will be living under the poverty line by 2050, most people won’t even live past sixty, and a few dozen extremely rich families will make more money in a couple hours than 300 million combined in their lifetime. We will be worse off than the poorest African countries are today.

And there is nothing we can do about it.

Have you ever considered becoming an Alternative History writer?

Jeebus said:

generalfrevious said:

Donald Trump is going to stay in power for the rest of his natural life. The Russia scandal won’t sink him, he might even stop the investigations altogether in the coming weeks. Even if he somehow leaves office after two terms, he has already changed the Supreme Court for the next forty years, so any action against right-wing hegemony will be struck down immediately.

Meanwhile, the standard of living is going to plummet hard, as over half of Americans will be living under the poverty line by 2050, most people won’t even live past sixty, and a few dozen extremely rich families will make more money in a couple hours than 300 million combined in their lifetime. We will be worse off than the poorest African countries are today.

And there is nothing we can do about it.

Have you ever considered becoming an Alternative History writer?

This isn’t alternate history. If you drive to any rural part of this country, the abject poverty is already there. There are states where, if they were seperate nations, would be some of the poorest in the world.

Jetrell Fo said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

My kingdom for an ignore feature.

You say that now.

😉

Quite right. 'Cause if it ever returns, you and Warb might actually ignore one another, leaving me no reason to say it ever again. 😛

generalfrevious said:

Jeebus said:

generalfrevious said:

Donald Trump is going to stay in power for the rest of his natural life. The Russia scandal won’t sink him, he might even stop the investigations altogether in the coming weeks. Even if he somehow leaves office after two terms, he has already changed the Supreme Court for the next forty years, so any action against right-wing hegemony will be struck down immediately.

Meanwhile, the standard of living is going to plummet hard, as over half of Americans will be living under the poverty line by 2050, most people won’t even live past sixty, and a few dozen extremely rich families will make more money in a couple hours than 300 million combined in their lifetime. We will be worse off than the poorest African countries are today.

And there is nothing we can do about it.

Have you ever considered becoming an Alternative History writer?

This isn’t alternate history. If you drive to any rural part of this country, the abject poverty is already there. There are states where, if they were seperate nations, would be some of the poorest in the world.

There is no Russian scandal. There never was. But you and others believing there is … ensures that there was one. Stop being sheople and do your own thinking, your own research, decide for yourself.

Jetrell Fo said:

generalfrevious said:

Jeebus said:

generalfrevious said:

Donald Trump is going to stay in power for the rest of his natural life. The Russia scandal won’t sink him, he might even stop the investigations altogether in the coming weeks. Even if he somehow leaves office after two terms, he has already changed the Supreme Court for the next forty years, so any action against right-wing hegemony will be struck down immediately.

Meanwhile, the standard of living is going to plummet hard, as over half of Americans will be living under the poverty line by 2050, most people won’t even live past sixty, and a few dozen extremely rich families will make more money in a couple hours than 300 million combined in their lifetime. We will be worse off than the poorest African countries are today.

And there is nothing we can do about it.

Have you ever considered becoming an Alternative History writer?

This isn’t alternate history. If you drive to any rural part of this country, the abject poverty is already there. There are states where, if they were seperate nations, would be some of the poorest in the world.

There is no Russian scandal. There never was. But you and others believing there is … ensures that there was one. Stop being sheople and do your own thinking, your own research, decide for yourself.

the Russian scandal is irrelevant to the decades long trend of income inequality in the US. The wealthy earn so much money it’s actually distorting our per capital GDP; factor out the top 1% and we would be much lower ranked than we are now. I don’t think we can even call ourselves a developed country anymore.

CatBus said:

I’m declaring May Alternate History Month.

Yeah but can a month last four years?

If the DNC doesn’t get real and get their shit together a month is going to last 8 years.