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One would have to obtain the theatrical audio mix for this to happen and I don’t think the higher ups here are keen on “acquiring” TFA materials while it’s still screening in theaters (i.e. making money).

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Possessed said:

I don’t see anybody discussing a project or their intent to do anything about this missing sound effect.

I would assume that something is going to be done about the inconsistency he heard once the official BD is out.

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The first step of a preservation is to determine what the original contained. Before we can discuss any specific preservation, we have to have the discussion about what, if anything is different.

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yotsuya said:

The first step of a preservation is to determine what the original contained. Before we can discuss any specific preservation, we have to have the discussion about what, if anything is different.

The alleged change in question is a “bleep bloop”, which I believe is the correct scientific nomenclature.

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clutchins said:

yotsuya said:

The first step of a preservation is to determine what the original contained. Before we can discuss any specific preservation, we have to have the discussion about what, if anything is different.

The alleged change in question is a “bleep bloop”, which I believe is the correct scientific nomenclature.

Hah.

Really, though, I do agree that a thread like this will be useful if changes are actually found out. I’m not sure how it’s different from other ‘method development’ threads in this section such as super resolution or color matching in that sense.

But it’s probably jumping the gun a bit as the blu-ray isn’t out yet. And it’s unclear at what point in time discussion of the cam will be considered fair game. It’s clearly acceptable around here for episodes II and III (as are 1978 bootlegs of the first film), but it’s understandable if we’re a ways off from that still.

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towne32 said:

clutchins said:

yotsuya said:

The first step of a preservation is to determine what the original contained. Before we can discuss any specific preservation, we have to have the discussion about what, if anything is different.

The alleged change in question is a “bleep bloop”, which I believe is the correct scientific nomenclature.

Hah.

Really, though, I do agree that a thread like this will be useful if changes are actually found out. I’m not sure how it’s different from other ‘method development’ threads in this section such as super resolution or color matching in that sense.

But it’s probably jumping the gun a bit as the blu-ray isn’t out yet. And it’s unclear at what point in time discussion of the cam will be considered fair game. It’s clearly acceptable around here for episodes II and III (as are 1978 bootlegs of the first film), but it’s understandable if we’re a ways off from that still.

Clarity on that would be good. I’d say it’s a safe assumption that everyone here is buying the BD or DVD anyway.

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Plus, if we find that there’s literally no difference between the theatrical and BD, as JJ said, no one will ever have an excuse here to utilize or reference anything other than a 100% legal copy. Which simplifies things for us and shows the studios that we’re more than happy to behave if they’re behaving. 😃

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See I’m convinced JJ was talking nonsense or at least appealing to the people who don’t nit-pick when making that statement.
Almost every single film has changes when it hit home video, even if they’re borderline unnoticeable. Usually it’s just replacing some iffy audio or an awkward cut, but there’s often something there.
So I don’t think he was lying intentionally, but to the average filmgoer I’d say he’s telling the truth.

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Ryan-SWI said:

towne32 said:

clutchins said:

yotsuya said:

The first step of a preservation is to determine what the original contained. Before we can discuss any specific preservation, we have to have the discussion about what, if anything is different.

The alleged change in question is a “bleep bloop”, which I believe is the correct scientific nomenclature.

Hah.

Really, though, I do agree that a thread like this will be useful if changes are actually found out. I’m not sure how it’s different from other ‘method development’ threads in this section such as super resolution or color matching in that sense.

But it’s probably jumping the gun a bit as the blu-ray isn’t out yet. And it’s unclear at what point in time discussion of the cam will be considered fair game. It’s clearly acceptable around here for episodes II and III (as are 1978 bootlegs of the first film), but it’s understandable if we’re a ways off from that still.

Clarity on that would be good. I’d say it’s a safe assumption that everyone here is buying the BD or DVD anyway.

You clearly haven’t been paying attention to the other parts of this forum.

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There is a sound that seems to come from BB-8 in the scene Ryan-SWI noted (from a different cam version). To me it sounds like a squeak from BB-8, or possibly a mistake with the sound of a TIE Fighter blaster shot that occurs a second or two later? - but there is definitely a noise there that’s not present in the other cam version and early bluray rip from last week.

Should be interesting when we all get our hands on the official release bluray/dvd/digital downloads…

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Perhaps the BD will offer multiple sound mixes? That would be interesting.

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I saw it. I did not notice a single change, certainly not a single sound effect or lack thereof. And I sure as hell am not going to be losing any bleepin’ sleep over it. I was extremely satisfied with what I saw to say the least. No Lucasing around here. Just a beautiful copy of the film I saw in theaters that looked and sounded awesome. Will be paying for it as soon as they’ll let me.

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Density said:

I saw it. I did not notice a single change, certainly not a single sound effect or lack thereof. And I sure as hell am not going to be losing any bleepin’ sleep over it. I was extremely satisfied with what I saw to say the least. No Lucasing around here. Just a beautiful copy of the film I saw in theaters that looked and sounded awesome. Will be paying for it as soon as they’ll let me.

Literally was just mentioned that there may have been different sound mixes used for various cinemas, meaning that just because the BD resembles what you saw/heard in the theater, it doesn’t mean it’s the same for everyone.

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Density said:

I saw it. I did not notice a single change, certainly not a single sound effect or lack thereof. And I sure as hell am not going to be losing any bleepin’ sleep over it. I was extremely satisfied with what I saw to say the least. No Lucasing around here. Just a beautiful copy of the film I saw in theaters that looked and sounded awesome. Will be paying for it as soon as they’ll let me.

Literally was just mentioned that there may have been different sound mixes used for various cinemas, meaning that just because the BD resembles what you saw/heard in the theater, it doesn’t mean it’s the same for everyone.

OK, well, the original films (first two at least) also had different sound mixes for different prints/theaters. With far more noticeable differences than the one you described that might not even exist…

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Density said:

Ryan-SWI said:

Density said:

I saw it. I did not notice a single change, certainly not a single sound effect or lack thereof. And I sure as hell am not going to be losing any bleepin’ sleep over it. I was extremely satisfied with what I saw to say the least. No Lucasing around here. Just a beautiful copy of the film I saw in theaters that looked and sounded awesome. Will be paying for it as soon as they’ll let me.

Literally was just mentioned that there may have been different sound mixes used for various cinemas, meaning that just because the BD resembles what you saw/heard in the theater, it doesn’t mean it’s the same for everyone.

OK, well, the original films (first two at least) also had different sound mixes for different prints/theaters. With far more noticeable differences than the one you described that might not even exist…

I’ve already had it confirmed from another user that it certainly is there, so it does exist; whether it’s an error or an actual sound effect is another matter entirely.
The first two films having more noticeable differences in the sound mixes is a bit irrelevant though. There’s no denying that this potential sound effect is extremely trivial, but that’s besides the point. It obviously existed in some form or another in one of the releases, and other releases are omitting it, therefore it’s worthy of discussion.

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Bleep bloops aside, hasn’t it already been determined that the end credits have been extended by a couple minutes for the home release?

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joefavs said:

Bleep bloops aside, hasn’t it already been determined that the end credits have been extended by a couple minutes for the home release?

That’d be harder to prove wouldn’t it? Most cams cut off the end credits after a few seconds.

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joefavs said:

Bleep bloops aside, hasn’t it already been determined that the end credits have been extended by a couple minutes for the home release?

Several minutes? How and why would that have happened?

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Sometimes I just don’t understand human behavior.

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towne32 said:

joefavs said:

Bleep bloops aside, hasn’t it already been determined that the end credits have been extended by a couple minutes for the home release?

Several minutes? How and why would that have happened?

It’s been talked about in the TFA Official Review thread in the General Discussions thread, here mate -

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Just a thought: is it the first time that a digital release (dvd, bluray, etc.) of a SW movie (I don’t count Clone Wars) is going to be the true theatrical version ? No line modified ? No sfx changed ? No wipe redone ? Nothing, no alterations, even minor ones ? This is history !

There aren’t any alterations of the kind you mention, but the end credits are apparently longer by about 3 minutes, compared to the theatrical version. The movie is now 138 minutes long.

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clutchins said:

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Do you think we’ll see a version where someone wasn’t happy with some of the sound effects for the blasters/lasers and dubbed over the old-skool sounds?


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