I cannot say. I just listen to the music, I never read the credits. So I assume that a bunch of people have been forgotten in the theatrical version AND the scrawl speed has been slightly slowed down (by 10-15% or so, something you wouldn’t spot).
Anyway, does not change anything. The real trick is that the deleted scenes will only be 5 or 6 minutes (far from the expected 20-25 minutes) and there is no hint a teaser/trailer of ROGUE ONE is gonna be an easter egg.
It’s not a ROGUE ONE trailer or something like that, I checked (if it had been, you would already know). The credits last 11’. On album, the music for the end credits is around 7’40’’. So there is indeed 3’ of added material, at least music material :
Album track Medley:
- Rey’s theme
- First Order/Kylo Ren theme
- Poe & Finn escape
- March of the Resistance
- Force awakening theme (Jedi steps)
Bluray end credits Medley:
- Rey’s theme
- Scherzo for X-Wings
- First Order/Kylo Ren theme
- Poe & Finn escape
- March of the Resistance
- Force awakening theme (Jedi steps)
So the credits have been extended, or, as I assume, just been slowed down (I remember in theater it was a little bit hard to follow the scrawl, which was passing too fast, so I guess it has been corrected) with a new track inserted into the medley. Not a big deal.
Don’t know where you’re getting these numbers from but I know that the credits music on the album is shorter than what was actually in the film. In the film the rendition of the March of the Resistance is replaced by the concert version, which adds a couple minutes. This version of the end credits medley can be found in the FYC tracks.
Official album. I still need to get the FYC album.
If it helps anyone, the end credits of TFA run from 2h 07m 07s - the end credits then finish and are followed by the Bad Robot logo and finally the Lucasfilm logo - which then ends and the screen fades to black on 2h 18m 05s.
So 10 mins and 58 seconds of end credits in total.
Chapters are at (I don’t have chapter titles - so just made them up):-
00:00:00 Start Of Film
00:00:09 A long time ago
00:01:43 Scroll down to planet
00:03:51 The First Order descend on Jakku
00:06:12 Kylo Ren’s shuttle descends
00:09:33 The First Order depart Jakku
00:10:43 Finn in the Landing Craft
00:12:35 Rey heads back into town
00:13:39 Rey back at home
00:14:48 Rey meets BB-8
00:16:45 Poe’s interrogation
00:18:04 Unkar’s offer
00:19:21 Finn liberates Poe
00:21:26 “This thing really moves”
00:24:03 Finn comes around
00:26:47 “Water”
00:29:54 Stormtroopers find Finn
00:31:49 BB-8 rolls out
00:35:51 “How did you do that?”
00:36:40 Ren is informed about the escape
00:37:45 “What girl?!”
00:40:19 “Chewie, we’re home!”
00:43:39 Guavian Death Gang
00:45:29 Closing the Blast Doors…
00:49:22 The Falcon escapes
00:51:19 Bypass the compressor
00:54:13 A lot of green
00:59:48 A map to Skywalker himself…
01:04:16 The Force calling
01:08:37 Hux’s speech
01:11:07 “Where’s Rey?”
01:15:16 Incoming at .256
01:16:49 Rey on the run
01:19:37 The Resistance lands
01:20:56 “He was here”
01:25:36 Rey’s interrogation
01:32:12 The Resistance’s plan
01:35:29 Refractional refresh rate
01:36:34 “Sanitation?!”
01:39:28 X-Wing approach on Starkiller Base
01:41:29 “Escape now, hug later”
01:42:57 Enter the base
01:45:00 On the bridge
01:50:33 Ren awaits Finn and Rey
01:53:39 The Trench Run…
01:55:22 Ren vs Rey
01:58:05 “Get back to your station”
02:01:05 R2D2 awakens
02:02:32 Rey leaves
02:07:07 End Credits
Running time 2h 18m 05s
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“Jedi steps and finale” track
Official album: 8’52’’ (“finale” part is 6’40’’)
FYC album (more info here: http://www.jwfan.com/?p=8489): 9’58’’ (“finale” part is 7’47’’)
End credits (leaked file, still needs to be confirmed as official): 10’58’’ (“finale” part only)
It’s entirely possible in the film they swapped out the Rey’s theme part of the medley with the concert version, at least that was something I thought I heard when I saw it in theaters. That would probably add a bit.
Well I guess as soon as I get my copy of the bluray on the 5th I’m gonna have to download one of those crappy in-theater bootlegs and compare to see if anything’s different. I thought TFA would be the last film we’d have to have theatrical reconstructions for. Sigh.
Don’t forget to reconstruct the 3D conversion as well.
Unless I’m missing something, I haven’t seen anyone mention the fact that the bluray will only have three minutes and 41 seconds of deleted scenes (and that’s spread across SIX scenes, the longest being 50 seconds). I’m not a big fan of deleted scenes (I’ll watch 'em once and then forget about them (I love extended/director’s cuts, though)) but that’s significantly less than what Abrams hinted at being on the disc.
As an aside, I’ve never understood why deleted scenes always seem to get the shaft. How many times has a shot that’s been featured in a trailer not been included in the deleted scenes? I can’t imagine it would cost a lot of money since they don’t have to finish them.
Another edition with more bonus material (and the 3D version) is likely to be released end 2016, or a few weeks prior to EpVIII release.
There, I’ve done it – I finally seen this movie. My final thoughts?
I liked the production values, I liked the budding chemistry and banter between Rey & Finn, I liked BB-8, and I liked the Scottish & Asian smugglers Han briefly runs into before the rathtar scene. As for everything else, however? The First Order villains? The Starkiller plot device? The execution of Rey’s burgeoning Force powers? The lightsaber duel? It was all very – how shall I put this? – uncaptivating.
I didn’t hate this movie, but I didn’t like it either; once the Starkiller base reared its uninspired stratosphere, I rapidly fell into boredom and just couldn’t wait for the plot dominoes to fall in their predictable order and lead into the end credits.
Now that it’s out of the way, I have no intent or interest in ever seeing this movie again.
6/10
About damn time 😃
EDIT: You should watch it a second time in like a week or two to reaffirm your position. It’s definitely a film that should be seen a second time.
About damn time 😃
EDIT: You should watch it a second time in like a week or two to reaffirm your position. It’s definitely a film that should be seen a second time.
Completely agree. For me, I found the initial Jakku sequence to be quite long and tedious on the first viewing. The second time the whole movie was phenomenal. Looking forward to seeing it a third time in just a week. 😃
I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.
There, I’ve done it – I finally seen this movie. My final thoughts?
I liked the production values, I liked the budding chemistry and banter between Rey & Finn, I liked BB-8, and I liked the Scottish & Asian smugglers Han briefly runs into before the rathtar scene. As for everything else, however? The First Order villains? The Starkiller plot device? The execution of Rey’s burgeoning Force powers? The lightsaber duel? It was all very – how shall I put this? – uncaptivating.
I didn’t hate this movie, but I didn’t like it either; once the Starkiller base reared its uninspired stratosphere, I rapidly fell into boredom and just couldn’t wait for the plot dominoes to fall in their predictable order and lead into the end credits.
Now that it’s out of the way, I have no intent or interest in ever seeing this movie again.
6/10
Wow, we’re on the same wavelength! 😄
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Wait, didn’t you give it a B- on another thread? 6/10 is a D- right?
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Wait, didn’t you give it a B- on another thread? 6/10 is a D- right?
Jumanji (1995) – C+
Mission: Impossible (1996) – B-
I, Robot (2004) – C-
300 (2006) – C
Collateral (2004) – B
Daredevil (2003) – C
Blood and Concrete: A Love Story (1991) – B+
The Devil’s Arithmetic (1999) – B
Hard Target (1993) – B
Kindergarten Cop (1990) – B-
Life as a House (2001) – B
The Seventh Sign (1988) – C
Dead Calm (1989) – B+
Ablaze (2001) – C-
Sleeping with the Enemy (1991) – B+
Sliding Doors (1998) – B
The Enforcer (1976) – C+
Ethan Frome (1993) – B
Absence of the Good (1999) – C+
Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (2015) – B-
So it would seem
If you’re grading on a 4-point scale 6-7/10 is a B-
I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.
I guess but this is why I don’t convert between the point rating system and the alphabet rating system because they don’t mesh. I have the film at an 8.2/10 and God knows what that would be in the alphabet rating system.
There, I’ve done it – I finally seen this movie. My final thoughts?
I liked the production values, I liked the budding chemistry and banter between Rey & Finn, I liked BB-8, and I liked the Scottish & Asian smugglers Han briefly runs into before the rathtar scene. As for everything else, however? The First Order villains? The Starkiller plot device? The execution of Rey’s burgeoning Force powers? The lightsaber duel? It was all very – how shall I put this? – uncaptivating.
I didn’t hate this movie, but I didn’t like it either; once the Starkiller base reared its uninspired stratosphere, I rapidly fell into boredom and just couldn’t wait for the plot dominoes to fall in their predictable order and lead into the end credits.
Now that it’s out of the way, I have no intent or interest in ever seeing this movie again.
6/10
Wow, we’re on the same wavelength! 😄
It seems I’m on your wavelength too. But I really only liked the production value… and BB-8 a little, I guess. So I’m like, hanging on the edge of the wave 😉.
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Wait, didn’t you give it a B- on another thread? 6/10 is a D- right?
I consider 6 to be somewhere between mediocre and good – the better side of okay, you could say.
Personally, I don’t know exactly how to convert a 6 to a letter rating; like Haseo said, the two systems aren’t exactly compatible. I usually settle on C+ or B-.
Iv seen it 5 times now and would give the first act a 10/10. It literally made me buzz with pure joy during Rey’s introduction and the escape with Poe and Finn it just was so great. But the second and third act would get like a 7/10 at best. They just lost the engaging feel of the plot so if episodes 8 and 9 are as captivating at the first act of TFA then that would be awesome.
Agreed though the second act is an 7.5/10 for me. Third act is the weakest though due to it feeling rushed.
But if somebody puts star killer base blowing up Hosnian system during the attack on the base during third act like that idea posted in the fanedit thread then I think it could (if done well) turn the third act to like an 8/10