ANDOR: The Rogue One Arc (Rogue One Rescore) [AVAILABLE] — Page 5

Octorox said:

I do miss “Oh, it’s beautiful”, but maybe the pacing just didn’t work with where NFBisms wanted to split the episode.

It’s possible to insert the line in as Krennic is watching the explosion. You would have to slow the footage down a bit though, or replace the second shot with the one of him saying the line.

The final scene where Cass and Jyn await their fate should feature “Your Mother is Dead” from season 1 episode 11. That track plays just as Cassian resolves to return to Ferrix and looks off to the sunset- a sky that looks eerily similar to the sky that takes his life at the end of Rogue One. I think the parallel would absolutely stop hearts.

Just got done with season 2 of Andor, can I get a link to this edit please?

NFBisms said:

I think eventually I’m going to just export the movie without any of the music, so that people can do the more radical work they’re looking for themselves though!

Genuinely you would be a saint if you did this. Andor is good enough, and Rogue One is complicated enough that there’s essentially a million ways people could take their edits… it would be such a boon to the edit community and long term discussion and enjoyment of the series.

Rewatched your V1 edits today. Just so grateful to you this exists. Rogue One is so problematic, Andor is so wonderful. This really lines them up so much better.

The music choices at the very closing of episodes 15 & 16 are SO good. Brittel’s themes are so evocative, heart-string-pulling & you laid them in perfectly.

I also want to back you on the post-credits thing. Vader’s hallway scene, while amazing, is now problematic. As the end of Andor’s story, I need to sit with his sacrifice for longer. Transitioning to bad-ass Vader directly after that moment is thematically jarring. Part of what makes Andor so special is that it’s in the world of Star Wars, but it’s a world AWAY from the Force, from the Skywalkers, etc… obviously we all still love those OT elements though… by splitting them apart with the credits, it really sells the transition from gritty-Andor-spy-story back to operatic-Skywalker-Force-monomyth. It’s just brilliant how you achieved that.

In terms of changes others have mentioned, these are the ones I’m most supportive of (I agree with you – too much editing would be beyond your original scope):

1. Integrate the Star Wars logo (droid/helmet thing) into the previously-on’s.

2. The Bor Gullet scene is silly AF, but watching your edit with a couple of Andor-newbies, they were both confused why Bodhi is suddenly out-of-it. Someone here mentioned the idea of keeping Saw’s iconic intro scene & when Saw says “Bor Gullet”, add subtitles that say “Torture him” (or “make him talk” etc) & only cut the actual Bor Gullet scene. I think it’s a pretty elegant fix.

3. More action/tension music throughout final Scarif battle.

4. Don’t touch that R2/3PO moment! Helps sell that this story is crashing (beautifully) into classic SW.

5. Agree with the shortened Krennic/Jyn confrontation.

6. Rebellion Suite cue (2:23) for Star Destroyer crash.

DM NFBisms on Fanedit if you’re a brand new member here! They’re very responsive, and the edit is excellent.

I agree with some suggestions by fellow commenters and don’t quite agree with others, but I’ll try to be concise with what I feel would be valuable for any future fan edits in the community:

1. After the end of Andor season two, the Ring of Kafrene scene feels like the appropriate opening sequence for Rogue.
2. Cassian is unfortunately a supporting character in the film. I believe the best way to affirm his co-lead status and to restructure Rogue as a continuation of Andor would be to create a Jyn centric episode, in the style of Kleya’s in 210, opening with Krennic approaching Lah’mu in the past and ending with Galen’s death in the present. This could be as simple as incorporating the flashbacks into “Stardust” rather than “Jedha.”
3. This may be controversial, but while Shamook has done great work at Lucasfilm, and the deepfakes do better resemble Cushing and Fisher, I find the Tarkin deepfake almost completely expressionless. Certainly, the original CG is over-expressive and zombie-like, but the eyes of the CG model alone feel more “alive” to me.
4. Another controversial opinion: I have no problem believing that the paranoid, rhydo-huffing Saw would use a creature like Bor Gullet and I think Whitaker’s performance is delicious.
5. I think Krennic and Vader has to stay in, if only because Krennic needs to be seen as much as possible and Mendehlson is incredible. I’m also simply a fan of “Be careful not to choke on your aspirations, Director.”
6. Absolutely believe that the Vader/Leia sequence belongs post-credits to parallel Andor season one’s post-credits.

I already commented previously, and I do stick by what I said about perhaps doing some editing/scene swapping at the top of episode 13 to ease the transition better pacing-wise from Andor to Rogue One. I know, NFBisms, that you’re not particularly interested in doing much more actual editing to the film. I think basically everything else is fine as is, but I finished watching 14 and 15 yesterday, and I did find the ending just a tad abrupt. My first suggestion would be, if possible, to move the quick bit with Vader ordering the chase to be one or two cuts earlier. Currently, it’s the last thing we see before the quite short final shot of Cass and Jyn hugging, and that feels a bit odd, emphasis-wise. Aside from that (maybe it’s not even possible tbh), something as simple as adding some slo-mo to the final shots of Cass and Jyn on the beach might help. Just a thought, not even sure if it’d work.

I just watched the three episodes. Nearly flawless work. The Andor score works great. The removal of some scenes and the breakdown in three episodes helps to follow the complicated plot.

chummlargo said:

DM NFBisms on Fanedit if you’re a brand new member here! They’re very responsive, and the edit is excellent.

I agree with some suggestions by fellow commenters and don’t quite agree with others, but I’ll try to be concise with what I feel would be valuable for any future fan edits in the community:

1. After the end of Andor season two, the Ring of Kafrene scene feels like the appropriate opening sequence for Rogue.

Agreed. The time jump needs explanation, esspeicially for folks who haven’t watched RO yet.

2. Cassian is unfortunately a supporting character in the film. I believe the best way to affirm his co-lead status and to restructure Rogue as a continuation of Andor would be to create a Jyn centric episode, in the style of Kleya’s in 210, opening with Krennic approaching Lah’mu in the past and ending with Galen’s death in the present. This could be as simple as incorporating the flashbacks into “Stardust” rather than “Jedha.”

Interesting idea. I’m not sure that there is enough material to get a Jyn centric episode, though.

3. This may be controversial, but while Shamook has done great work at Lucasfilm, and the deepfakes do better resemble Cushing and Fisher, I find the Tarkin deepfake almost completely expressionless. Certainly, the original CG is over-expressive and zombie-like, but the eyes of the CG model alone feel more “alive” to me.

Both are flawed, but Deepfake wins for me.

4. Another controversial opinion: I have no problem believing that the paranoid, rhydo-huffing Saw would use a creature like Bor Gullet and I think Whitaker’s performance is delicious.

Please no Bor Gullet 😉

5. I think Krennic and Vader has to stay in, if only because Krennic needs to be seen as much as possible and Mendehlson is incredible. I’m also simply a fan of “Be careful not to choke on your aspirations, Director.”

Love the edit the way it is. Not just because the scene is fan service, but more so because Vader uses the Force. And up until this point there is no clear force usage in Andor / Rogue One. Of course Chirrut uses the Force but that’s stuff which could be explained by skill and belief.
If you’re new to Star Wars and start by watching Andor / RO before the OT, you get slightly more immersed into the concept, just like we did when we watched Luke training.

6. Absolutely believe that the Vader/Leia sequence belongs post-credits to parallel Andor season one’s post-credits.

The question here being: How do you make the transition, now that we are able to reorder or cut scenes? The “official” order feels stupid and repeating.

Nevermind, will review after I watch. Thanks!~

Someone else is working on Andor-ized version of the movie, but still as one movie. They did some tweaking to the ending and shared the video here. Specifically in the final few second, they added a nice little flashback to Cass’s sister, which is a beautiful touch, but also serves the purpose of lengthening out those final moments appropriately. In case you’re looking for ideas.

I just wanted to say that I was able to watch the versions that are uploaded right now after completing Andor, and I am amazed at how much the music can change the feeling and tone of what is being watched. And I imagine that now that all the music from season 2 is available and we have the full context, this edit can only get even better.

With all this, I also wanted to comment on an idea that I couldn’t stop thinking about while watching the end of the last chapter of this edit, although I understand that it could be a change that would somewhat deviate from what this version of the film seeks.

It would be to include a shot of young Cassian with his sister as a brief flashback, replacing the shot of Cassian in the elevator with Jyn or on the beach itself when they see the explosion. I feel like this would close the circle regarding the series’ theme of his search for her at the very beginning. It could also represent that he almost sees Jyn as the embodiment of what he would have liked to have done with his lost sister, making Jyn’s inclusion feel less external to the rest of the Andor series despite her significant role at the end, but rather a closure to how everything began for him. A brief shot of them or Cassian looking for his sister could also be included in the recap at the beginning of that episode so that it doesn’t seem to come out of nowhere.

But well, it’s just an idea. Something I kept thinking at the end.

This likely goes beyond the remit of the edit - but after working through Andor S2 (twice!) followed by R1, aside from the clear tonal shift into an adventure movie etc - I’m struck by Andor clearly concluding in the late stages of S2E12, and the narrative building in R1.

I’d be really interested in seeing an edit that can smooth it out a bit. As the narrative for R1 is moments from the conclusion of S2E12, then perhaps that episode could do with being edited too? Content from it could be shifted into the R1 arc, and visa versa.

Just finished watching this. I am a huge Andor fan and have always been indifferent to Rogue One. I think it was amazing, it will be included anytime I do a Andor re-watch.

I’m so excited to watch this! Would love a link (have to wait a week to PM).

Rewatching Rogue One after Season 2 of Andor is what made me finally decide to dig in to maybe doing my own fan edit, which of course led me here.

PM FOR LINK

Could you PM me the link? I haven’t been a member long enough to PM you yet.

Learning how to post in here lol

In regards to whether or not the Darth Vader hallway scene should be at the end of the movie or an ‘end credits’ scene, we must first remind ourselves that Star Wars has NEVER had an end credit scene, at least from what I can remember. But I do agree that it doesn’t make sense to have it immediately after the closing shot of Cassian and Jyn. A compromise I think would be good is to instead have a ‘mid-credit’ scene, so you show only some of the credits, then show the hallway scene, then have the remainder of the credits. Some people might not know the scene will be in there otherwise.

Also, as someone else mentioned, I DO like the conversation between Krennic and Vader, but ONLY if the dub is used where they fixed Vader’s voice to sound like he did in ANH.

You have done great work!

frionelherosw said:

we must first remind ourselves that Star Wars has NEVER had an end credit scene, at least from what I can remember.

Andor itself has an end credit scene, the Death Star being built scene in season one.