ANDOR - Disney+ Series - A General Discussion Thread — Page 27

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I definitely didn’t expect Luthen to be cut out of the chain of command, but it makes sense. He wants to stay on Coruscant, doing his thing. I find it very hard to predict what’s left to do in this show, other than his death. It was nice that they wrote Bix out of Cassian’s life without killing her too.

So I guess what’s left is

• Luthen’s death. Maybe Kleya’s too, but not necessarily.
• Dedra’s death? Some other resolution? Probably death. I expect these last two events to be tied together
• Dedra learning what the kalkite is really for
• Cassian & K2-SO4 working together seems like a good idea, just for showing their friendship more
• More Melshi
• The Rebellion getting wind of the Death Star, or at least Bodhi’s defection
• Writing Vel out somehow to explain why she’s not part of the crew that join Cassian & Jyn
• Cassian’s personal journey as a single guy or however he views himself post-Bix
• A resolution to Wilmon & Dreena, and Wilmon’s relationship w/ Saw
• The breakdown of whatever relations there are between Saw and the Alliance

For those that enjoyed the music in Season 2 of Andor - Episodes 7-9…

Andor: Season 2 - Vol. 3 (Episode 7-9) (Original Score) - 27 tracks by Brandon Roberts; 64 minutes.

www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m3PrVwZTRNVWVVYhDPQ7MUQOcgwNJGc48

& https://open.spotify.com/album/05B5E1D6Sm5UBIPtJJUCVr

Grand Admiral Thrawn said:

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I was having an okay day today, until I saw this:

Bix went back for B2 and they are now living somewhere safe - and will see out the Galactic Civil War. That is the only way I can struggle through with that!

Otherwise, it is this all over again… 😢
 

 
I also got sent this 2 minute montage youtube video which somehow resulted in a lot of dust suddenly being in the room where I was located: My Love, you’re sleeping now | Andor - by ‘Star Wars Alert’ 😢.
 

StruggleNation’s The GREATEST Episode of Star Wars EVER | ANDOR 2x8 | Who Are You? | Reaction youtube video then set me off as well!

Join Andor Creator Tony Gilroy and Star Diego Luna to Celebrate the Series Finale

Watch the special livestream event for a chance to see your questions answered on YouTube May 13 ahead of the Season 2 finale on Disney+ that evening.

www.starwars.com/news/andor-series-finale-livestream-event
 

'It’s almost time to send Cassian Andor off as he takes his final steps to Scarif in the Andor Season 2 finale next week.

To mark the occasion, the end of a five year journey for the cast and crew behind the critically-acclaimed and beloved Star Wars series, Star Wars YouTube will host a special LIVE Q&A — Andor Season 2 with Tony Gilroy & Diego Luna — covering the momentous events of Season 2.

Join creator Tony Gilroy and series star Diego Luna (Cassian Andor himself), Tuesday, May 13 at 12 pm ET / 9 am PT as they’re joined by special guests Denise Gough (Dedra Meero), Kyle Soller (Syril Karn), Elizabeth Dulau (Kleya Marki), Genevieve O’Reilly (Mon Mothma) and Adria Arjona (Bix Caleen) to talk about the journey so far.

“I think the banality of evil runs through the entire show,” Gilroy tells StarWars.com. “Season 1 is about the education and radicalization of Cassian, about the making of a revolutionary. Season 2 is…you could call it the ‘Winds of War.’ It’s a whole bunch of characters that hopefully you really care about and suddenly there’s that inevitable moment where things have just gone too far and the inertia of the Rebellion and Empire conflict is too strong. It’s coming. There’s no way to stop it. And I think it’s about a lot of people, ordinary people, being pressured by this unstoppable force of war that’s coming.”

Like the special look back at Andor Season 1 earlier this year (below), Gilroy and the cast will reflect on their experience making Season 2 while also taking live questions from fans watching the stream from home. Tune in and submit your question through the live chat for a chance to hear it answered on screen!

Then get ready for the series finale of Andor, with the final three-episode arc premiering May 13 at 6 p.m. PT only on Disney+.’
 

Tony Gilroy created Andor’s ‘Rebellions are built on hope’ origin story after his son mocked him - EW article.

Andor’s Tony Gilroy talks revolution, propaganda, and navigating Star Wars cartoon canon - AV Club article

By calling a genocide a genocide, Andor just made its most political point yet - Guardian article (without Grauniad irony).

Say It in Ghor: How Andor Brought a Brand New Language to Star Wars - Consequence Of Sound article

Andor’s Elizabeth Dulau: ‘An iconic hairdo is part of the Star Wars job description’ - Evening Standard article

“The Collective Ambition Was Wild!” | Star Wars: Andor’s Mon Mothma (Genevieve O’Reilly) - 13 minute Virgin Radio video

Andor’s Adria Arjona Talks on Events of Episodes 7-9 (SPOILERS) - ComingSoon article

Andor | The Ghorman Massacre - a 5 minute montage edit video from the SWFT youtube channel.

Andor | Mon Mothma’s Speech - a 2+ minute montage edit video from the SWFT youtube channel.

Luthen Rael | ANDOR - a 5+ minute montage edit video from the SWFT youtube channel.

Ghorman Anthem - choral vocals with English subtitle translation; a 2+ minute video from the RDL youtube channel.

Star Wars: Cassian Andor | Rebellion - a 2+ minute montage edit video from the SWFT youtube channel.
 

“It’s a good speech.”

Follow along with Diego Luna as he takes us behind the scenes of his last day on the Andor Season 2 set.

Genevieve O’Reilly brings us along as she says goodbye to Mon Mothma on her last day on the Andor Season 2 set

Adria Arjona says goodbye to Bix Caleen as she takes us behind the scenes of her last day on the Andor Season 2 set.

 
and just to finish on a lighter note…

Denise Gough and Kyle Soller being chaotic for 14 minutes straight (ft. Ben Mendelsohn) - from the Clem youtube channel.

A few short videos from the insightful and quality Spaceman youtube channel on Andor…
 

Season 1…

Andor Is A Star Wars Masterpiece From 1978 - 16 minute video

Andor’s Historic 11th Hour For Star Wars - 7 minute video

Andor Is Star Wars In 39 Million Minutes - 8 minute video

Andor Is A Message From The Force - 4 minute video

 
Season 2…

Andor Season 2 Is Embracing The Last of Star Wars - 5 minute video

Andor Defends A Beautiful Character Assassination - 5 minute video

Andor Introduced The Force, And It Was Stunning - 5 minute video

Andor Season 2 Explores The Dark Side Carefully (Episodes 1-3) - 6 minute video

Andor Season 2 Is Star Wars Everywhere (Episodes 4-6) - 5 minute video

tba (Episodes 7-9)

tba (Episodes 10-12)

A few long-form / in-depth interviews and videos with the creators of Ardor - at the Backstory Magazine youtube channel…
 

Andor S2 Q&A - Tony Gilroy - Episodes 1-3 - 46 minute interview, with Jeff Goldsmith

Andor S2 Q&A - Beau Willimon - Episodes 4-6 - 55 minute video, with Jeff Goldsmith

Andor S2 Q&A - Dan Gilroy - Episodes 7-9 - 61 minute video, with Jeff Goldsmith

Andor S2 Q&A - Tom Bissell - Episodes 10-12 - 57 minute video, with Jeff Goldsmith

A few more long-form / in-depth interviews and videos - with Tony Gilroy - at the The Ringer TV youtube channel…
 

Tony Gilroy Got Braver and Bolder for ‘Andor’ Season 2 | The Watch : Episodes 1-3; 66 minute video

‘Andor’ Season 2, Episodes 4-6 and the Many Faces of Cassian. Plus, ‘Everybody’s Live.’ | The Watch : 88 minute video

‘Andor’ Episodes 7-9: ‘Star Wars’ Goes Full ‘Jason Bourne.’ Plus, ‘Thunderbolts*.’ | The Watch : 67 minute video

Tony Gilroy on the Final Three Episodes of ‘Andor’ Season 2 | The Watch : Episodes 10-12; 62 minute video
 

This seems to be an unpopular opinion among the American monomyth enjoyers, but

I don’t think Luthen and Kleya “have” to die. I don’t think characters that we don’t see in the OT have to die. I don’t think that characters who have done questionable things for the rebellion don’t get to experience and participate in rebuilding the new, better world, and heal together with the more pure of heart characters. Luthen has been cut out of the chain of command, and there’s no reason he can’t have continued to be a spy on Coruscant or something through the war. The rebel life he leads is one of the riskiest of all the people in the rebellion, but it would definitely be a nice subversion of the cowboy trope for the guy who’s sacrificing everything for “a sunrise he knows he will never see” to actually be one of the few OGs that do get to see that sunrise in the end.

As for Dedra, I think she finds out what they’re really doing with those rocks, and I don’t know what’s going to happen, but probably the obvious thing would be for her to eventually be posted on the Death Star, right?

Anyway, I agree with all the praises of the show’s nuanced writing and music and stuff, obviously. There is room for different genres in Star Wars, but I do miss this level of subtlety in other shows (namely whenever Filoni does a politics-related plot or whenever anyone but Zahn writes Thrawn…)

I don’t understand; how is it “missing” if they rewrote the episodes after they realized that episode had to be cut?

It’s honestly such a small nitpick. It really feels like people are trying to find something to complain about…

Today at 12 pm ET / 9 am PT - or 5pm UK time / 6pm CET - or 2am AUS…
 

Andor Season 2 with Diego Luna and Tony Gilroy LIVE | Now Streaming on Disney+

www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvkpcedAtXs - a live video from the official Star Wars youtube channel.
 

The blurb: ‘In anticipation of the three-episode series finale of Andor, join Diego Luna and Creator & Executive Producer Tony Gilroy as they take us behind-the-scenes of the show’s final season. Diego and Tony will be joined by special guests Adria Arjona, Denise Gough, Elizabeth Dulau, Genevieve O’Reilly and Kyle Soller for live questions and reflections across their Star Wars journeys. With special appearances by some of your favorite creators including @HeroesReforged, @CatherineLaSalle, and @MaceAhWindu.’
 

^ more info: www.starwars.com/news/andor-series-finale-livestream-event

The End of ‘Andor’: How Diego Luna and Tony Gilroy Revolutionized ‘Star Wars’ Storytelling - article at Variety

‘Andor’ Creator Tony Gilroy on Series Finale’s Biggest Moves and ‘Rogue One’ Links - article at The Hollywood Reporter

Tony Gilroy On The ‘Andor’ Season 2 Finale, Cassian’s Sister & Disrupting ‘Star Wars’ Canon - article at Deadline

Andor Finale: Creator Tony Gilroy Breaks Down the Star Wars Spy Saga’s Gut-Wrenching Ending - article at Vanity Fair

The final 3 episodes of Andor air 10 years to the day that Diego Luna was officially announced for Rogue One - Diego Luna

Andor Cast Reacts to Series Finale | Season 2 Episode 12 - 2+ minute TVLine youtube video (massive spoilers) + 30 sec extra clip

‘Andor’ Season 2 Spoiler Interviews With Diego Luna, Adria Arjona, Denise Gough And More! - 12 minute CinemaBlend video.

Andor cast and writer REACT to the series finale and reveal their thoughts on the Star Wars epic - 21 minute RadioTimes video

Andor’ Star Elizabeth Dulau Talks Kleya’s Necessary Choice - an article from The Hollywood Reporter

Say goodbye to the cast of Andor - 40 second clip from the official Star Wars twitter.

Andor fans notice subtle credits scene nod to 1977 Star Wars movie - an article from The Independent.

Tony Gilroy Says There’d Be No Andor Without Kathleen Kennedy - an article from Gizmodo.

The last 5 episodes of Andor: S2 all scored 9.5 or higher on IMDB - as seen in this 20 minute finale video from Film Obsessed - ‘the first TV show in history that for 5 straight episodes got a 9.5 or higher rating on IMDB’…

a ‘behind the scenes’ look at Episodes 10-12 of Andor: Season 2 (warning: contains major spoilers)…
 

Andor Season 2 Declassified: Farewell | Contains Spoilers Eps 10-12

www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-sI-Iz_zyo - a 15 minute video form the official Star Wars youtube channel.
 

The blurb: ‘Content contains spoilers. Andor’s cast and crew bid farewell and take us behind the scenes of the series’ final three episodes. All episodes of Andor Season 2 are now streaming on ‪@disneyplus‬.’

Episode Guides for Eps 10-12 are now up on the official Star Wars site: www.starwars.com/series/andor#s2arc4

‘Andor Explained’ for Eps 10-12 are also there too: www.starwars.com/news/andor-season-2-finale-episodes-10-11-12

Secrets from the Set - Week 4 (Eps 10-12): www.starwars.com/news/andor-trivia-guide-week-4

The Secrets of Ghorman, Mina-Rau, and More: Creating the Worlds of Andor Season 2 - Updated - at StarWars•com

StarWars•com’s Databank for Andor: www.starwars.com/databank/andor-all

StarWars•com’s official youtube playlist for Andor: www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL148kCvXk8pC2fMmEFdKns2Zvyvob6h9X

StarWars•com’s Andor - Season 2 Recaps: www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL148kCvXk8pARjuC9IHQUH3YpHeW8UzP_

‘ANDOR Season 2: Episodes 10-12 Breakdown’ - a 50 minute video from ScreenCrush: youtube.com/watch?v=qJomWHnBicw

‘ANDOR Season 2: Episodes 10-12 Breakdown’ - a 44 minute video from New Rockstars: youtube.com/watch?v=6ESl0McAoAc

 
Class act.

Stone and Sky.
 

Wow, I would have killed for more of this show. But so thankful for what we got! Hot take, but I think this final arc was my favorite of the season. Hard to deny last week’s though, so I’m not ready to lock that in. Definitely going to need to rewatch. If I didn’t have work in a few hours, I’d throw on Rogue One right now!

Also, really enjoyed the classic SW score that kicked in towards the end of the credits.

amazing just amazing
one thing i saw on twitter that i agree a lot with is that different from the others shows, Andor fells like essential to watch star wars, is something that the other shows despite their subjective quality feels like just just optional stuff, that is more fine with the cartoons but the live action shows not so much.
9/10

Finale was great! I’m still kind of bugged by

what they ended up doing with the character of Bix (i.e. pretty much nothing except making her this unachievable dream for Cass), but yay Vel, yay Kleya, good that they showed Perrin, even though they probably shouldn’t have cut the scenes with him from the previous arc. Yikes what a poetically cruel ending for Dedra,

and agreed Vladius vis-a-vis Rogue One (even though it’s still not the best movie imo lol - but this for sure enriches it).

The time-jumping did rob us of a lot of on-screen character development and I still like season 1 more, but man what a show huh?

I was disappointed there wasn’t more Saw in the last two arcs, maybe something with his group doing something so bad as to explain why the Alliance pushes them away. On the other hand, I underestimated how much the Alliance pushing him away can mostly be in his head.

Having him saying “You have no idea where I am!” when they know and we know that he’s definitely on Jedha was perfect.

Bail’s remaining on Coruscant was necessary simply by way of the fact that we already knew both he and his daughter are active members of the Senate right up to its dissolution. When he was saying that his place was there, he just had to stay, I think part of his reasoning was that he can’t risk his family being scrutinized or taken into custody; he knows he has one of the two people most likely of being someday capable of taking out the Emperor and Vader.

I did not see Partagaz’s suicide coming, but Anton Lesser really sold it. Incredible performance. I had always thought he was fond of Lonni; I was so so so so glad they brought back Nemik’s manifesto. Of all the monologues in this show, it’s the one that sticks with me.
Partagaz was such a likeable guy, it was maybe a little too good to have him turn, though this was obviously the saddest way to do that. I think there’s still a lot to process there.

I could not be more pleased with how things turned out for Heert and Meero, and Perrin for that matter.