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I'll never understand the attitude of people who oppose the release of the unaltered original trilogy. — Page 3

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SilverWook said:

I refuse to believe anybody loves Maclunkey. Even the guy who played Greedo is baffled.😛
https://www.empireonline.com/movies/features/star-wars-greedo-maclunkey-disney-plus-exclusive-interview/

And where are people getting the idea this is any sort of final definitive version? I’ll believe that when George says he’s done with it.

Star Wars: The George Lucas “I May Have Gone Too Far in a Few Places” Director’s Cut

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Haarspalter said:

A few weeks ago some guy commented on my “Gary Kurtz on the Star Wars Special Edition” youtube upload, saying:

“I completely disagree with this man’s stance.”

I asked him why and he answered:

“I love the special editions.”

I stayed polite and tried to get a more detailed argument out of him by remarking:

“That is completely fine if you love them. Which version of the Special Edition do you like the most? To this day there are four versions of Special Editions: 1997 - The first Special Edition, 2004 - The DVD Special Edition (Haydens Ghost added to ROTJ, Ian McDiarmid added to ESB), 2012 - The Blu ray Special Edition (Darth Vaders ‘NOOO’ added to ROTJ), 2019 - The Disney + Special Edition (Greedos ‘Maclunkey’ added to ANH).”

His answer:

“2019. Those are the final definitive versions.”

Since he stayed by his one-sentence-replys, i had no desire to deepen the discussion any further.

This is what they all say though, as if it somehow invalidates everyone else’s thoughts and opinions. The thing is even if I did find the Special Editions to be superior, I would still want the original versions to be preserved and readily available in equal quality to the SE. There actually are several films in which I do find an alternate cut to be superior to the theatrical, but I wouldn’t want the theatrical cut to not be available just because I personally preferred a different version. It is this which I do not understand. People can like whichever version they want, but why does that mean that no other version should be available?

I can’t even remember the last time I watched any of the other versions of Blade Runner besides the Final Cut, but I am glad they were made available and I wouldn’t not want to own them. In the case of Close Encounters of the Third Kind, I actually watch the Theatrical cut most often as that is the one I prefer. What is being done with the Star Wars films is to me a travesty, and should have never been allowed to happen to any film, let alone one coming from a man who once spoke in front of congress to bring awareness and advocated for the prevention of this exact scenario from happening.

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It’s vexing that Gary Kurtz is being routinely dismissed by these people. He’s only the second name you see on the closing credits on SW and ESB.

If Rick McCallum ever speaks his mind in the years to come, I expect some fanboys will rev up the shuttlebus.

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Where were you in '77?

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I fixed the confusingly worded thread title.

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The 'Naysayer Guide’ by people who DON’T want an official unaltered theatrical release of the Original Trilogy

^ an OriginalTrilogy•com info & discussion thread cataloguing some of the oft-repeated claims, statements & comments made by some people who seemingly have issues with an official release of the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy being available - or even with fans simply asking for such a release.

The thread also hopefully includes some… clear, concise, informative, and reasoned replies.

 
 

2023 Edit…

Kellythatsit & Juno Eclipse’s posts in the ‘A topic that might upset the entire forum; (I’m sorry)’ thread are also well worth a read.
 

^ Especially for those not around at the time of the ‘fan purges’ of the early-mid 2000’s, or are unfamiliar with the censorship, threats, bans, and also death threats and abuse that fans of the unaltered theatrical cuts endured for simply wanting to talk about these original versions on certain fan forums. Or even for simply talking about issues with the various Special Editions over time, alterations made to the Original Trilogy films to ‘fit better’ with the Prequels, or Lucas’ re-writing and altering of Star Wars history. As well as the welcome influx of censored and purged fans joining this and other similar forums as a result.

That is before we get into the unfortunate continuation of such abuse and threats, since aimed at fan preservationists and fan editors on here - from our early days online - right through to 2021 2022. Similar abuse and death threats also aimed at people highlighting Marcia Lucas’ role in Star Wars history - notably in promoting the recent Icons Uncovered documentary, or for perceived sleights at George Lucas made to Alexandre Philippe for making of his The People vs. George Lucas program. To Jamie Benning for his Star Wars Begins filmumentary, and adywan for his Star Wars Revisited Edits. Even to myself for the apparent “Lucas hating & lying bullshit” of the George Lucas: Star Wars Creator, Unreliable Narrator & Time Travelling Revisionist info thread.

There are unfortunately a number of others on the OT•com over the years who have been on the receiving end of abuse and threats too - I won’t list them, as unlike the people listed above, they haven’t publicly disclosed these threats (other than to the site staff/authorities). Yet it is important to highlight that such abuse, attempted manipulation, and serious threats do still occur.

 

The ‘Fandom’ section of An Index & Help Thread for Original Trilogy Discussion may also be of interest / for further reading.

^ Plus the ‘Other websites / communities issues with the OT•com, the Original Trilogy, or the unaltered theatrical cuts’ section.
 

A little patience goes a long way on this old-school Rebel base. If you are having issues finding what you are looking for, these will be of some help…

Welcome to the OriginalTrilogy.com | Introduce yourself in here | Useful info within : About : Help : Site Rules : Fan Project Rules : Announcements
How do I do this?’ on the OriginalTrilogy.com; some info & answers + FAQs - includes info on how to search for projects and threads on the OT•com

A Project Index for Star Wars Preservations (Harmy’s Despecialized & 4K77/80/83 etc) : A Project Index for Star Wars Fan Edits (adywan & Hal 9000 etc)

… and take your time to look around this site before posting - to get a feel for this place. Don’t just lazily make yet another thread asking for projects.

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Certainly not everyone, but I see so many who appear to take a contrarian stance just for attention. Those are the discussions to avoid. There’s no point.

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I’ll never understand the attitude of people who against the release of the unaltered original trilogy!
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I think arguing about that is like trying to argue with a brick wall, you can but it won’t matter or change anything.

I’m just a simple man trying to make my way in the universe.

Star Wars has 3 eras: The eras are 1977-1983(pre Expanded Universe), (1983-2014) expanded universe, or (2014- now) Disney-bought version. Each are valid.

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