JadedSkywalker said:

I don’t know but shouldn’t an archive of the making of the Original film actually reflect that film, and not some 1990s cgi that was garbage. Even Rian Johnson referred to the special edition as the cartoon versions.

I wish i could find that comment its probably since been deleted.

Please do! Between that and the interview with JJ where he plugs Despecialized, we’d be really set. I’ve personally asked Rian for a comment (he follows @starwarsviscomp), but no go there.

A few interesting inserts on some revisionism - or attempts at revisionism…
 

NeverarGreat said:

George Lucas: When writing the movies, I tried to make sure that aliens and droids got killed, but not people.

Paul Duncan: A lot of stormtroopers died.

George Lucas: That’s right, but you didn’t know they were people. We did kill three humans and that was unfortunate. I was always bothered by it.

Paul Duncan: When was that?

George Lucas: On the Death Star, when Han and Luke go into the prison with Chewie to rescue Leia, they shoot three Imperial guys. The guards drew their guns and fired first, but it’s still a shame.

Paul Duncan: Really?

George Lucas: Yeah, we very consciously didn’t kill very many humans in those movies.

Paul Duncan: What about the stormtroopers? They look robotic, but they’re not.

George Lucas: How do you know what they are?

Paul Duncan: Did you have a different idea of what they were?

George Lucas: Yeah, they started out as clones. Once all the clones were killed, the Empire picked up recruits, like militia.

 

This is so strange to me. Are aliens and clones not people to George? Besides, what about everyone Luke blew up with the Death Star? I guess as long as we don’t see their faces, their death doesn’t count. And what about the good dozen Rebels gunned down by Stormtroopers in the first scene, or Captain Antilles who had his neck crushed, or crispy Owen and Beru…

Like, I don’t want to say this flippantly, but this seems like an artist in willful denial of the content of his art.

^ from the George Lucas’s Sequel Trilogy thread.

Paul Duncan is the author of the officially licensed ‘The Star Wars Archives - 1977-83’ and ‘The Star Wars Archives - 1995-2005’ books.

Fated-Dualist said:

It seems doubleofive got there first and saved it 😃

https://twitter.com/StarWarsVisComp/status/1330530045547438080
 

The original tweet and claim by author Paul Duncan (which he later deleted):-

^ from the Possible ‘proof’ that Greedo was always meant to shoot thread.

This may also be of some interest (though not quite SE revisionism) too - Fated’s updated post in the It seems like nobody involved in the making of the OT has spoken up about GL’s oppression of the OOT thread - on people in and around Star Wars wanting that classic theatrical version of the Original Trilogy release, or it made available etc.
 

https://twitter.com/StarWarsVisComp/status/1378039662195916801

‘This image was not created between 1977-1983.’

^ From Paul Duncan’s officially licensed ‘The Star Wars Archives - 1977-83’ book.
 

That’s a mistake more than revisionism, though I’m not sure how it happened. The rest of the images I’ve seen (so far) are labeled as being SE.

The text of the book however, wowee.

Every example of a matte painting in “Creating the Worlds of Star Wars: 365 Days” is from the SE. I’m sure that was a publisher overriding the author’s wishes.

doubleofive said:

That’s a mistake more than revisionism, though I’m not sure how it happened. The rest of the images I’ve seen (so far) are labeled as being SE.

The text of the book however, wowee.

Apologies - easy to get confused given some of Paul Duncan’s claims and inferences re Star Wars history… 😉
 

^ https://twitter.com/StarWarsVisComp/status/1376601004402225154
 

(I’d encourage anyone interested to check out doubleofive’s Star Wars Visual Comparisons twitter for some informative and insightful facts on Star Wars history).
 

Gotta love Hayden’s lecherous Kubrick stare emblazoned on that card. Just a dash of extra spiciness to make the farce complete.

You guys should see the actual cardback figure for Vader from Hasbro, released to celebrate the 40th anniversary of ROTJ:
 

^ from https://twitter.com/StarWarsVisComp/status/1679545606900002818 - looks like Hayden’s head to me too!

a 15 minute review video of the figure - www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDYwb6UFHGI

(comparisons of this Hayden Vader head with the last model of Sebastian Shaw Vader head start at 3 minutes into the video)

^ Left: is the head model of the previous release for the Vader figure from Return of the Jedi.
Right: is the head model of the 40th anniversary release for the Vader figure from Return of the Jedi.

Most video reviewers also refer to Sebastian Shaw as “Sebastian Stan” for some reason. And don’t realise that the image of Vader used on the front of the card is from the 2004 Special Edition either, and not from the the 1983 original theatrical cut… which is the actual version of the film having its 40th anniversary.

^ Left: Vader from 1983 (the 40th anniversary). Right: Vader from the 2004 Special Edition (not the 40th anniversary)

From Paul Duncan’s “Star Wars Archives: Episodes I-III: 1999-2005” book, released in 2021, for €150, and features a sit down interview with George Lucas:
 

 
George is still trying to rewrite history with the “it was always the tragedy of Darth Vader” retcon. Maybe he now believes it himself?

Edit: I knew something wasn’t “right” about that claim above from George Lucas. I’d read elsewhere that Lucas admitted he wasn’t consciously aware that the six Star Wars films ‘formed the biography of Darth Vader’ until the late 1990s.

I found it in oojason’s ‘George Lucas: Star Wars Creator, Unreliable Narrator & Time Travelling Revisionist’ thread:
 

oojason said:

7. Who is the main character in the Star Wars Saga?

George says it is Darth Vader…

Lucas now claims the 6 Star Wars films ‘form the biography of Vader’… but that he wasn’t aware of this “until 1998”…

 
A screenshot of a 2005 Vanity Fair article (February issue) promoting Revenge Of The Sith:-

^ ‘Taken as a whole, the six Star Wars movies form the biography of Darth Vader — something Lucas claims he wasn’t consciously aware of “until 1998.”’

It appears George cannot even keep his later revisionist claims from contradicting his previous revisionist claims.

Don’t get me started on Archives. The author let Lucas say whatever he wanted and let him edit himself, so there’s huge sections of quotes from him in 2019 next to quotes from him in 1976 and there’s no distinction between the quotes.