4k77 - shot by shot color grading (a WIP) — Page 16

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Get rid of the ! at the beginning of your link. It makes Markdown think you’re embedding a photo and thus breaks the link.

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Brodnation said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Get rid of the ! at the beginning of your link. It makes Markdown think you’re embedding a photo and thus breaks the link.

Thank you very much. I was not sure about how to post images on this fourm. I will get to fixing that link in around an hour when I get home. Btw how do you post images what programs/code do you use to get it in to OT.com?

Oh, okay. If you’re trying to embed an image, keep the ! but get rid of everything inside the brackets, and make sure the URL in the parentheses is to an actual image (ending in something like .jpg or .png). You’ll have to do this one at a time for each image you’re looking to embed.

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Brodnation said:

(https://imgur.com/tdngBjS)]

This is a Comparison of a bunch of CC’s I have seen lately. They were made by taking images from of all the sources as well as a No DNR version of 4K77 and running them through Dr Dre’s Wonderful Colour Matching Algorithm. I personally prefer NevearGreats and Dr Dre’s but please give me your opinions.

Edit: The link is now fully operational!

The 93 Laserdisc is the best for that particular shot in my opinion, but that shot is plain weird anyway not only just color but the shot starts before he even starts acting! That was because they were covering up other shots that were missing. It was probably added late in production, well the shot is longer than it was meant to be.

The R2-D2 and 3P0 in the alone in the corridor has no place in the film at all it’s a promo shot they also used that to cover the Missing scene gap.

Ronster said:

Brodnation said:

(https://imgur.com/tdngBjS)]

This is a Comparison of a bunch of CC’s I have seen lately. They were made by taking images from of all the sources as well as a No DNR version of 4K77 and running them through Dr Dre’s Wonderful Colour Matching Algorithm. I personally prefer NevearGreats and Dr Dre’s but please give me your opinions.

Edit: The link is now fully operational!

The 93 Laserdisc is the best for that particular shot in my opinion, but that shot is plain weird anyway not only just color but the shot starts before he even starts acting! That was because they were covering up other shots that were missing. It was probably added late in production, well the shot is longer than it was meant to be.

I really don’t understand what this means. Takes are frequently used from “before” or “after” an actor “starts acting” (that is, before “Action” is called or after “Cut” is), that’s not unusual in the slightest and there’s pretty much no way to know if this is the case unless someone working on the film explicitly said so, you were there yourself, or have raw on set video/audio to look at.

Plus, what makes you say the shot is “longer than it was meant to be” or that it’s “covering up shots that were missing?” From an editing standpoint, that shot is long specifically to build tension because you expect it to cut away and for action to start, just like the soldier is tense and waiting for the action to start.

If something was “missing” that needed to be “covered up,” there’s tons of other b-roll from this series of takes that could have been used instead of extending a shot that shouldn’t have been extended, which would make the scene feel awkward. But it doesn’t. Because that shot is supposed to be that long because it helps put the viewer in that soldier’s head by abruptly halting the rhythm of the rest of the scene. Intentionally.

So, do you have sources for any of those claims or are you just making stuff up?

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Ronster said:

The R2-D2 and 3P0 in the Corridor has no place in the film either it’s a promo shot they also used to cover the gap.

Ah, okay. Making stuff up. Got it.

no you can just see he goes from getting ready to actually acting. It’s a shame they never got to finish that part off for the special effects, instead they filled it with people looking around.

Ronster said:

no you can just see he goes from getting ready to actually acting.

You’re joking, right?

It’s a shame they never got to finish that part off for the special effects, instead they filled it with people looking around.

Wow, seriously? Okay, tell me. What was supposed to go there?

ChainsawAsh said:

Ronster said:

no you can just see he goes from getting ready to actually acting.

You’re joking, right?

It’s a shame they never got to finish that part off for the special effects, instead they filled it with people looking around.

Wow, seriously? Okay, tell me. What was supposed to go there?

Something like this…

It’s part of the film now… But it would be nice to see what they had for that part. Actually the Shot of the escape pod flying towards camera in the film is from this part that is missing but they moved it to when 3p0 and R2-D2 are in the Pod. I imagine they never had it all sorted like other effects shots missing stuff it was very difficult what they were doing.

Either way what I think the 93 laserdisc has on Extended Soldier footage is that it is more de-saturated and that is what works in it’s favor. In the rest of the footage not so much perhaps.

^so are you suggesting that the shot by shot color correction of 4k77 also regrade shots that don’t exist?

Why do you think such an effects sequence is missing? What evidence exists to support it?

I’ve updated the color grading for the opening scenes of my shot by shot regrade of 4k77:

I’m also in the process of generating a set of 120 sample frames across the entire film, as I’ve done for Empire and Jedi.

Tack said:

Ronster said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Ronster said:

no you can just see he goes from getting ready to actually acting.

You’re joking, right?

It’s a shame they never got to finish that part off for the special effects, instead they filled it with people looking around.

Wow, seriously? Okay, tell me. What was supposed to go there?

Something like this…

It’s part of the film now… But it would be nice to see what they had for that part. Actually the Shot of the escape pod flying towards camera in the film is from this part that is missing but they moved it to when 3p0 and R2-D2 are in the Pod. I imagine they never had it all sorted like other effects shots missing stuff it was very difficult what they were doing.

Either way what I think the 93 laserdisc has on Extended Soldier footage is that it is more de-saturated and that is what works in it’s favor. In the rest of the footage not so much perhaps.

Ronster, dude, you used to be on to something but you’re reaching so much lately. Those shots are part of the edit, they were chosen deliberately to illustrate the apprehension of the soldiers as the Empire boards their ship, which in turn makes US more anxious to see what these invaders look like.

If you want to suggest fanedit ideas, that’s fine, but these wild presumptions and assertions don’t help anyone.

He let it go months ago, don’t get him started again! 😂

Tack said:

Ronster said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Ronster said:

no you can just see he goes from getting ready to actually acting.

You’re joking, right?

It’s a shame they never got to finish that part off for the special effects, instead they filled it with people looking around.

Wow, seriously? Okay, tell me. What was supposed to go there?

Something like this…

It’s part of the film now… But it would be nice to see what they had for that part. Actually the Shot of the escape pod flying towards camera in the film is from this part that is missing but they moved it to when 3p0 and R2-D2 are in the Pod. I imagine they never had it all sorted like other effects shots missing stuff it was very difficult what they were doing.

Either way what I think the 93 laserdisc has on Extended Soldier footage is that it is more de-saturated and that is what works in it’s favor. In the rest of the footage not so much perhaps.

Ronster, dude, you used to be on to something but you’re reaching so much lately. Those shots are part of the edit, they were chosen deliberately to illustrate the apprehension of the soldiers as the Empire boards their ship, which in turn makes US more anxious to see what these invaders look like.

If you want to suggest fanedit ideas, that’s fine, but these wild presumptions and assertions don’t help anyone.

Honestly my presumption is that the Soldier shot that is well over saturated and looks so different is because it was re-cut late in production. That is all really…

And the shot where the Escape Pod Leaves (exterior space) was taken from this part and used for 3p0 and R2-D2 escape.

It’s not that difficult to understand or a huge outlandish statement.

When the Jawa shoots R2-D2 in the Canyon the effects for the Bolt that come out the gun are there but the Blue is Missing in amongst the smoke… Just FYI it’s a small thing but the Blue in the Highlights are totally gone on this shot of the Jawa shooting towards camera.

Hope all is going well with the project anyway

Nooooooooooooooooooo!

I’ve completed a first pass on the Death Star conference room scene:

Here’s an update of the color grading for the opening scenes of the film to enhance shadow detail somewhat:

Here’s the second pass for the Death Star conference room shots:

Here’s the first pass for the ending celebration:

I have two questions DrDre.

1. How your color graded version will be superior to Sanjuro’s color graded version? I’m asking because version 1.4 seems to have really good colors. It looks like a definite version (when it comes to colors). So much improvement compared to the original 1.1 release. I’m just wondering how in this case color grading could be better, but I suppose it could 😃 Or will it rather be a matter of personal taste and preferences and the changes will be really minimal?
2. When can we expect your version? This year? Can you give us a month +/- ?