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nevertheless I don’t think it’ll be an issue as Rian didn’t stray too far from TFA’s style to begin with.

Actually, I was very confused as to why people acted like the arguably out-of-place humor of TLJ was new. To me, it was just a continuation of the sometimes borderline parody tone of TFA. Totally seamless.

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Anakin Starkiller said:

nevertheless I don’t think it’ll be an issue as Rian didn’t stray too far from TFA’s style to begin with.

Actually, I was very confused as to why people acted like the arguably out-of-place humor of TLJ was new. To me, it was just a continuation of the sometimes borderline parody tone of TFA. Totally seamless.

Yeah both film have comedy, but not all comedy is the same. The comedy in TLJ was noticeably different to me.

The Abrams and Kasdan team understood how to write dialogue and especially comedy that is more consistent with the OT, which borrows heavily from old Hollywood and especially the screwball comedies of that era. By comparison, many of The Last Jedi’s dialogue and comedic moments are less quick-fire screwball banter and more rooted in more recent popular culture (crank calls, your mama jokes, literally brushing-it-off; some of the jokes felt like modern memes) and stuck out to me immediately.

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pleasehello said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

nevertheless I don’t think it’ll be an issue as Rian didn’t stray too far from TFA’s style to begin with.

Actually, I was very confused as to why people acted like the arguably out-of-place humor of TLJ was new. To me, it was just a continuation of the sometimes borderline parody tone of TFA. Totally seamless.

Yeah both film have comedy, but not all comedy is the same. The comedy in TLJ was noticeably different to me.

The Abrams and Kasdan team understood how to write dialogue and especially comedy that is more consistent with the OT, which borrows heavily from old Hollywood and especially the screwball comedies of that era. By comparison, many of The Last Jedi’s dialogue and comedic moments are less quick-fire screwball banter and more rooted in more recent popular culture (crank calls, your mama jokes, literally brushing-it-off; some of the jokes felt like modern memes) and stuck out to me immediately.

All film is subjective.

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nl0428 said:

pleasehello said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

nevertheless I don’t think it’ll be an issue as Rian didn’t stray too far from TFA’s style to begin with.

Actually, I was very confused as to why people acted like the arguably out-of-place humor of TLJ was new. To me, it was just a continuation of the sometimes borderline parody tone of TFA. Totally seamless.

Yeah both film have comedy, but not all comedy is the same. The comedy in TLJ was noticeably different to me.

The Abrams and Kasdan team understood how to write dialogue and especially comedy that is more consistent with the OT, which borrows heavily from old Hollywood and especially the screwball comedies of that era. By comparison, many of The Last Jedi’s dialogue and comedic moments are less quick-fire screwball banter and more rooted in more recent popular culture (crank calls, your mama jokes, literally brushing-it-off; some of the jokes felt like modern memes) and stuck out to me immediately.

All film is subjective.

Yes. But I think that oversimplifies the very real differences between the two movies.

Why make an attempt at analysis if the conversation just stops at “all film is subjective”?

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Anakin Starkiller said:

nevertheless I don’t think it’ll be an issue as Rian didn’t stray too far from TFA’s style to begin with.

Actually, I was very confused as to why people acted like the arguably out-of-place humor of TLJ was new. To me, it was just a continuation of the sometimes borderline parody tone of TFA. Totally seamless.

I thought Poe’s humor at the start of TLJ was in exactly the same vein as his “who talks first” bit in TFA. It was longer, but the same type of humor.

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Exactly. And it’s situational humor. He wasn’t cracking a joke for the sake of it, he was trying to buy time for his X-wing. It’s something that’s in line with what his character would do.

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John_ said:

Exactly. And it’s situational humor. He wasn’t cracking a joke for the sake of it, he was trying to buy time for his X-wing. It’s something that’s in line with what his character would do.

Granted that Poe’s attitude hasn’t changed, the substantial differences boil down to the length of the joke and how that joke paints the villains of the respective scenes.

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pleasehello said:

nl0428 said:

pleasehello said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

nevertheless I don’t think it’ll be an issue as Rian didn’t stray too far from TFA’s style to begin with.

Actually, I was very confused as to why people acted like the arguably out-of-place humor of TLJ was new. To me, it was just a continuation of the sometimes borderline parody tone of TFA. Totally seamless.

Yeah both film have comedy, but not all comedy is the same. The comedy in TLJ was noticeably different to me.

The Abrams and Kasdan team understood how to write dialogue and especially comedy that is more consistent with the OT, which borrows heavily from old Hollywood and especially the screwball comedies of that era. By comparison, many of The Last Jedi’s dialogue and comedic moments are less quick-fire screwball banter and more rooted in more recent popular culture (crank calls, your mama jokes, literally brushing-it-off; some of the jokes felt like modern memes) and stuck out to me immediately.

All film is subjective.

Yes. But I think that oversimplifies the very real differences between the two movies.

Why make an attempt at analysis if the conversation just stops at “all film is subjective”?

I did write an analysis, check earlier on the thread and you’ll find it.

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Some info on Episode IX from John Boyega in Empire magazine (in the 2nd column if people wish to read it)…

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I like how the time span of each trilogy has gotten shorter. The Prequels were 13 years, the Originals 4 years, and the Sequels a little over 1 year.

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I think it’s utterly ridiculous. How are they gonna cram all the inevitable spinoff material?

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It would be cool if they did something like Shadows of the Empire.

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The fact that the War has no name is a testament to how underdeveloped this setting is.

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What was the war in the OT called? And was it ever said on screen?

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No, but the ST war hasn’t even been named offscreen, which is impressive, given the reputation of Star Wars’s EU.

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I’m very curious to see what positions Rey and Ben are in just a year after the events in The Last Jedi.

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Well since this war has literally only lasted like a day or two in universe, I really don’t mind that they haven’t already named it. It’ll probably get an official name after Episode IX.

Not specifically related to Anakin’s comment, but it feels like can’t we have any mystery anymore but instead it’s just a sign of underdevelopment when the people at Lucasfilm don’t want to give people everything at once. It’s like things aren’t moving fast enough for people. If we don’t have all the information and backstory immediately, then it must be a weak story filled with plot holes and a sign that they have no plan.

The Sequel Trilogy started development in 2012-2013 and won’t be done until 2019. So give or take six to seven years. We’re not going to learn all of the details until it is over because they don’t want additional material to contradict the movies before they even come out. Just feels like people are more impatient than they used to be, or can’t be satisfied with their imagination filling in the gaps until then.

Wookiepedia refers to it as the First Order-Resistance War, but I’ve also heard the First Order-Resistance Conflict. I personally like to call it the First Order Crisis, which I think has a better ring to it and not as long-winded.

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RogueLeader said:

Well since this war has literally only lasted like a day or two in universe, I really don’t mind that they haven’t already named it. It’ll probably get an official name after Episode IX.

Not specifically related to Anakin’s comment, but it feels like can’t we have any mystery anymore but instead it’s just a sign of underdevelopment when the people at Lucasfilm don’t want to give people everything at once. It’s like things aren’t moving fast enough for people. If we don’t have all the information and backstory immediately, then it must be a weak story filled with plot holes and a sign that they have no plan.

The First Order’s seemingly infinite resources is a strange topic. I could see the Resistance stumbling upon a Star Forge or something to explain why they don’t bat an eye to the destruction of a literal planet sized system destroyer, a mini Death Star dreadnought, and their capital ship the size of the Netherlands. That would explain a lot. But this is never setup as a mystery, and right now it comes across more as writing incompetence.

The Republic is another faction I wish we had seen more of. The Resistance could meet up with the remnants who explain what it was like, and how there were First Order sympathizers. This is kinda setup with the outer rim allies, but it’s just the outer rim not the core.

So while I’d love to see these in 9, I am doubtful of them considering there hasn’t been any setup so far. Although if J.J. adopts the subversion technique… maybe no setup is a positive?

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Not specifically related to Anakin’s comment, but it feels like can’t we have any mystery anymore but instead it’s just a sign of underdevelopment when the people at Lucasfilm don’t want to give people everything at once. It’s like things aren’t moving fast enough for people. If we don’t have all the information and backstory immediately, then it must be a weak story filled with plot holes and a sign that they have no plan.

Let’s just say there’s a difference between not naming Yoda’s species and not naming Jaylah’s species.

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We all should have known what Yoda’s species was when he made his first appearance. He’s a muppet!

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