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Idea: The Last Jedi WITHOUT Cantobight

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I just downloaded and watched poppasketti’s Last Jedi: Rekindled and he has truly outdone himself. This is a marvelous edit and the SPFX changes/additions he made were top notch. This is my go to version of the Last Jedi. With that being said, I was still bothered by the horrible Maz Cameo, Cantobight trip, and lame codebreaker talk/character. This is simply bad writing by Rian and there is no way around that. Or is there…

I’ve been messing around with the Rekindled edit and I think with his added BB-8 to Finn and Rose’s shuttle escape scene, I think it may be possible.

‘The Plan’ - Setting up the new plan of action without Maz and the need for a codebreaker. Quite simple really. The plan fails so it doesn’t have to be well thought out. The theory behind the new plan? Someone (Poe) has learned about Han and Leia’s little maneuver in The Empire Strikes back. Floating away with the rest of the garbage. The rebels are being pursued with ships being destroyed so debris would be constantly passing by ‘The Supremacy’. Finn and Rose would float in space as debris until they are behind ‘The Supremacy’ and then enter from behind. Billie Lourd’s character even says as much. “It’s nothing. Just debris”

Here are the short scenes edited together. “The Plan”

https://vimeo.com/304168845
Password: fanedit

I had a 20 minute video of just Finn and Rose on ‘The Supremacy’ combined with Poe’s takeover and subsequent hyperspace ram, but I need to re-encode that. I can upload that tomorrow. But I really think it works… Thoughts?

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Frankly, I think cutting Canto Bight and DJ out entirely cripples Finn’s character too much, since he’d basically vanish from the story for a massive stretch of time. I don’t think you can get it down any more than Hal did for Legendary (which poppasketti replicated for Rekindled) without it feeling like a fan edit and not a finished film (much like attempts I’ve seen to remove Jar Jar entirely from TPM or removing the Ewoks entirely from ROTJ).

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ChainsawAsh said:

Frankly, I think cutting Canto Bight and DJ out entirely cripples Finn’s character too much, since he’d basically vanish from the story for a massive stretch of time. I don’t think you can get it down any more than Hal did for Legendary (which poppasketti replicated for Rekindled) without it feeling like a fan edit and not a finished film (much like attempts I’ve seen to remove Jar Jar entirely from TPM or removing the Ewoks entirely from ROTJ).

I actually thought the theatrical film felt like a fan edit. The entire side-plot trip to Cantobight, being stuck in jail, and then the time to return and sneak aboard the Supremacy, just didn’t fit with rest of the narrative in regards to time. It felt shoehorned in and made The Supremacy chase feel like slow motion. Speaking of shoehorned in…that Maz Cameo… ugh

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jrs81 mate - your video has been blocked by Disney on copyright grounds. Doh!

It maybe worth uploading it to vimeo (free, easy and quick to register an account and also use) or a similar site - who don’t seem to suffer anywhere near as many of these take-downs as enforced by youtube?

Good luck with it 😃
 

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oojason said:

jrs81 mate - your video has been blocked by Disney on copyright grounds. Doh!

It maybe worth uploading it to vimeo (free, easy and quick to register an account and also use) or a similar site - who don’t seem to suffer anywhere near as many of these take-downs as enforced by youtube?

Good luck with it 😃
 

I was afraid of that. I thought since it was unlisted, it would be okay.

https://vimeo.com/304168845

Password: fanedit

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I definitely re-ordered some scenes. This is actually part of a much larger, and bolder, edit I’m working on for myself which most likely will not to be released as my editing skills are limited and not even close to those of others here. You will notice a few other scenes missing.

I know how much the Cantobight detour bothers others so I wanted to at least offer my thoughts and ideas on the topic. The goals of this particular sequence are as follows:

Eliminate Cantobight completely
Eliminate bad Maz Cameo
Eliminate need for a codebreaker
Shorten the way too long space chase thus shortening the movie

The fact that the rushed plan to hijack the Supremacy ultimately fails, I believe it allows us to move more quickly through these scenes. Again, this idea and attempt would not have been possible without the brilliant
poppasketti Rekindled edit.

Password: fanedit

The Plan (est 2 minutes)
https://vimeo.com/304168845

Finn and Rose (minus Cantobight) (est 11 minutes)
https://vimeo.com/304420054

This is the first attempt and I will probably fine tune it to the best of my ability, especially some of the audio transitions.

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Mate that’s quite good! I’ve been wrestling with an edit of tlj myself and these are really good changes. Well done. I was about to give up but you’ve inspired me to keep going.

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I think the Codebreaker works and you need him for the plan to fail.
And it works better by cutting all the Cantobight sequence.
Just make him appear on the ship with Finn and Rose,the dialog with Poe provides good explanation about that.
The deleted scenes on the Supremacy are interesting for those characters.

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I think “The Plan” is well done, but the Supremacy infiltration is so truncated because of cutting around DJ that it’s a bit confusing.

Is it possible to keep DJ as the code breaker (as 4throck suggested) so you can use more of the Supremacy material to flesh this out? Using more of the deleted scenes could help too. The segment where the officer is following them towards the elevator is actually pretty tense. I wouldn’t use the goofy bit on the elevator itself, though (with the Tom Hardy cameo).

Personally, I don’t think Canto Bight needs to be completely cut, but if it’s a dealbreaker for you, I think it’s a great idea to keep the infiltration. I wish they had made a more focused effort on this part of the plot, because it’s a fun idea, and with Finn there were many opportunities for real tension.

I’m interested to see where you go with this!

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The elevator stuff can be used to keep the tension. You just need to be smart in cutting it.
Don’t want to steal your thread, but take a look at how I did it for personal edit:
https://streamable.com/fi1ba

Yes, there are 2 repeated takes, perhaps you can find a better solution 😉

For the escape I removed the Phasma fight and BB8 on the walker. Here you have only the relevant parts:
https://streamable.com/fx59r

There are a few problems with this, but as I mentioned before, it’s ok for my personal use.
Just sharing it in the hope it helps!