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Ronster said:

All the toxic talk around the new films has just made me not interested in wanting to follow any of it anymore.

I think Frink misunderstood my points and attacked me a bit about it. But I really hate all this political agenda group shite and it unfortunately should be lumbered in with the likes of “Fake News” and be restricted from saturating social media but I quit social media also because it’s Fake and unsociable and has created phone zombies.

But I agree with Frink even though I think he mis-understood me… 😉

I don’t know what any of this is in reference to.

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it’s alright. So your memory is not that good then.

I just feel that when these groups shout. they use excuses that have no real meaning. It will be the are to many men in the film not enough women or vice versa The cast is not ethnically diverse enough and so on.

But if I watch a film, the last thing I about these sorts of questions.

I like films from all over the world and they do not have to be in English. I watch a film to follow the story. But injecting these sorts of view points like it does not have enough of this or it has too much of that and people yelling about stuff that does not even enter my mind. This makes me want to distance myself from anything like this because i hate it and it’s really horrid.

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Ronster said:

it’s alright. So your memory is not that good then.

I just feel that when these groups shout. they use excuses that have no real meaning. It will be the are to many men in the film not enough women or vice versa The cast is not ethnically diverse enough and so on.

But if I watch a film, the last thing I about these sorts of questions.

I like films from all over the world and they do not have to be in English. I watch a film to follow the story. But injecting these sorts of view points like it does not have enough of this or it has too much of that and people yelling about stuff that does not even enter my mind. This makes me want to distance myself from anything like this because i hate it and it’s really horrid.

i don’t recall hearing about any groups shouting those things? maybe you are misremembering… I recall hearing of fringe groups complaining about the exact opposite (that there was an agenda to insert women and racial diversity at the expense of making sense).

I too like to watch my movies and not try to complain about the diversity of the cast.

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I would flame jar jar binks actor too, but then again i would also accept same role for that money and wouldn’t give a flying f about flaming… we grow through contradiction plus its fun ;D

Assimilate THIS!

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Nandi said:

I would flame jar jar binks actor too, but then again i would also accept same role for that money and wouldn’t give a flying f about flaming… we grow through contradiction plus its fun ;D

Not sure if serious or jokey, but in very poor taste either way.

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It was a sarcastic comment, if you accept to do something trivial act accordingly, trivially towards it unless if in the first place trivial act wasn’t trivial to you, which makes you an idiot, which translates entire situation as trivial.

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Nandi said:

It was a sarcastic comment, if you accept to do something trivial act accordingly, trivially towards it unless if in the first place trivial act wasn’t trivial to you, which makes you an idiot, which translates entire situation as trivial.

So he’s an idiot for taking his job seriously?

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Star Wars fandom hits new depths - a couple of days ago someone posted up ‘Rian Johnson had died’ online - with the text of ‘Rian Johnson has been found dead this morning in his L.A home, details are still arising but suicide has yet to be ruled out’.

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Nandi said:

I would flame jar jar binks actor too, but then again i would also accept same role for that money and wouldn’t give a flying f about flaming… we grow through contradiction plus its fun ;D

‘Racism, Misogyny & Death Threats: How Star Wars Fans Turned to the Dark Side’:-

http://observer.com/2018/05/star-wars-fandom-toxic-disney-lucasfilm/

(^ wrote before Ahmed Best’s reveal that he contemplated suicide due to the vicious backlash he received)
 

Fun, eh? Still want to ‘flame’ Ahmed Best himself? (rather than offer a genuine & reasoned criticism of the character he played?)

 

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Yes, its funny but more so pathetic that he takes random words from random people that seriously.

Assimilate THIS!

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It’s wonderful that you’re mocking a suicide survivor. What a great person you must be.

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Nandi said:

Yes, its funny but more so pathetic that he takes random words from random people that seriously.

Yeah not that many saw the movie, he shouldn’t worry so much.

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Nandi said:

Yes, its funny but more so pathetic that he takes random words from random people that seriously.

Are you inside his head? Do have any concept at all how words can hurt? Actors and other creative people often suffer depression on a scale other people can’t even imagine. Someone may even have come up to him in person and said something. That it was random smelly fanboy #42 doesn’t matter, because that’s how depression works.
Even someone who’s clearly loved by many people can fall into that abyss and take their life, as has happened with Anthony Bourdain recently.

Kindly stop digging the hole you’re in any deeper before you hit the septic tank.

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oojason said:

Star Wars fandom hits new depths - a couple of days ago someone posted up ‘Rian Johnson had died’ online - with the text of ‘Rian Johnson has been found dead this morning in his L.A home, details are still arising but suicide has yet to be ruled out’.

I don’t even…this is getting beyond sick. Whatever happened to Don’t give into hate?

As dysfunctional as it gets around here, it’s telling that projects are underway to preserve the theatrical TPM and even the 1997 Special Edition.

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SilverWook said:

oojason said:

Star Wars fandom hits new depths - a couple of days ago someone posted up ‘Rian Johnson had died’ online - with the text of ‘Rian Johnson has been found dead this morning in his L.A home, details are still arising but suicide has yet to be ruled out’.

I don’t even…this is getting beyond sick. Whatever happened to Don’t give into hate?

As dysfunctional as it gets around here, it’s telling that projects are underway to preserve the theatrical TPM and even the 1997 Special Edition.

The lad who posted about Rian Johnson dying even knocked up an obituary picture with RIP and other text on it to go with his sick claim.
 

I’m somewhat surprised the 2/3 people in here who’ve made inappropriate comments haven’t started their own ‘Continuing with The Toxic Fandom - Our Stand’ type of thread… instead they try and derail and/or negate this thread, or give feeble hypocritical remarks or explanations as to why it’s okay to do - that it’s fun - that’s it’s actually pathetic someone is actually hurt or affected by them (‘victim blaming’?)… almost like they didn’t think much at all.

A little patience goes a long way on this old-school Rebel base. If you are having issues finding what you are looking for, these will be of some help…

Welcome to the OriginalTrilogy.com | Introduce yourself in here | Useful info within : About : Help : Site Rules : Fan Project Rules : Announcements
How do I do this?’ on the OriginalTrilogy.com; some info & answers + FAQs - includes info on how to search for projects and threads on the OT•com

A Project Index for Star Wars Preservations (Harmy’s Despecialized & 4K77/80/83 etc) : A Project Index for Star Wars Fan Edits (adywan & Hal 9000 etc)

… and take your time to look around this site before posting - to get a feel for this place. Don’t just lazily make yet another thread asking for projects.

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Nandi said:

Yes, its funny but more so pathetic that he takes random words from random people that seriously.

You should start choosing your words more carefully.

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Nandi said:

Yes, its funny but more so pathetic that he takes random words from random people that seriously.

I think depression is a little more complicated, and far-reaching than this. You should never make light of someone else’s pain and suffering. I suspect you don’t know what it’s like to be continually stalked, and harrassed, especially for something as trivial as playing a character in a movie.

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Ahmed Best didn’t deserve the hate he got back then (he played the part he was given and gave George what he wanted) and mocking his depression is wrong. The dude dealt with insane levels of criticism, from both fans and the media.

https://twitter.com/ComicPerch/status/1015813664497065984

When you put time and energy into creating something and the world tells you it sucks, it’s devastating.

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I don’t recall much of the media hype around the movie anymore. I probably tuned a lot of it out anyway because of larger issues in my life at the time. There was some negative buzz about Jar Jar before the movie was even out, I presume from insider leaks? I also recall the unfortunate moniker Mannequin Skywalker was used to describe Jake Lloyd’s performance early on. Critics really should have gone easier on a little kid.

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SilverWook said:

I don’t recall much of the media hype around the movie anymore.

Really? I seem to remember it getting a ton of hate. Mostly well deserved.

It has been a long time now I guess.

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I mean the specific details. I was well aware of the criticisms, but didn’t spend a lot of time reading the stuff. I wasn’t buying magazines like Starlog as much as I used to and the online media wasn’t what it is now.

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