Neverar's A New Hope Technicolor Recreation (Final Version Released!) — Page 26

No offense, but I’m not really sure what you’re talking about much of the time. About that new thread… .

Ronster, you always seem to be blathering about wrong colours and hues, and originally intended vision of George Lucas. There are several great copies of the film out there, representing a very accurate image of the original film, with its original colours - and we have several talented members working on restoring the film back to that original look.
You’re more than welcome to start your own thread/project, if you feel like something should be corrected in another way.

“Questions, comments, complaints, nitpicking, over-analyzing, opinions, speculation, and wild theories are welcome.”

This is in the OP…

I tried to look in to what is the cause of Hue shifting and I came across the term “Fogging” when a film is exposed to heat this can cause color shifting in the negative, we also accept that the BLu-ray master is very Magenta and everyone hates the Magenta / pink problem and we want it all to look right without this. Did “Fogging” occur on the camera negative or on the original master or a combination of both?

The overall Magenta problem has clearly been irradicated here there is no complaint or some sort of theory on George Lucus original vision. This looks about right to me.

What I am calling in to question is when we have a full blown “Magenta Moment” and everything is also off base and out of Hue. We typically find these “Magenta Moments” will totally shift highlights out or the brighter parts particularly explosions don’t look right. This is found in the Blu-ray is it also in the prints too? It’s more noticeable at extremities of brightness.

The first “Magenta moment” in Blu-ray occurs when the Tantive blockade runner get’s hit by a laser and an explosion occurs. The explosion looks totally off and the general color also is. Is this also the same in the film prints?

Another example would be perhaps when R2-D2 get’s his head blown up again it looks wrong it’s meant to be white / yellow not pink magenta.

But Luke going totally pink is outside of this there is no extremity in play it totally just shifts out for no apparent reason in to full on “Magenta Moment” and there is little other color information left.

Generally I found that it’s a straight up swap the magenta for quite a lot of yellow but I don’t think there is a one size fits all to to get rid the problem…

Yes, the OP is asking for feedback. But none of what you’re saying seems to have a basis in reality. the hue shifts you keep vaguely referring to as problems don’t seem to be anything properly defined, but rather just color corrections that you don’t prefer.

There’s nothing to support the points that you keep suggesting. If It’s only your preference, that is fine. There’s a bit of subjectivity in this kind of thing. But generally you’ll notice color correctors going back and forth on small nuances like mint walls, subtle details about skin tone, etc. The previews you’ve made are the darkest renders that I think have been seen . There’s not much to say about the color except that it looks like the blu-ray.

I don’t want to be mean. Learning color correction tools is difficult and fun. But the idea of dismissing the extremely finely tuned work here to discuss the merits of a dark and magenta render, when there is nothing of substance to discuss, is kind of derailing.

edit: I may be mixing some of this up with Dre’s thread, but obviously this is happening there as well.

I think you are being mean… And you are ignoring completely what I am talking about. I am not comparing anything I did with anything anyone else did.

I am talking about a problem in the Blu-ray or 2004 master or whatever it is.

Do you know anything about “fogging”?

Seems like that image on the top left might be having a pretty severe case of the old “Fogging”

But anyway I’ll just Fog off then

Ronster said:

I am talking about a problem in the Blu-ray or 2004 master or whatever it is.

Do you know anything about “fogging”?

Well, I apologize for misunderstanding (though I think in some cases, not ‘fogging’ related, you have). In any case, all the more reason for a new thread.

How does this compare to Adywan’s new color correction of the 2011 blu ray for his HD SW Revisited?

this one is a technicolor recreation. adywan’s is a personal color grade he did for his edit.

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NeverarGreat said:

I’m hoping to get the fully complete version of this out soon, but in the meantime I decided to use the updated Color Correction tools in Premiere 2019 to see if I couldn’t improve one of the shots that I felt never got its due in version 1:

https://diff.pics/hPh52iqZu7jm/1

The second image is the Tech V1, notice the flat and orange skintones versus the update.

While I would say the shot is improved, I still think it could be better. Judging the shot on its own terms, I personally feel it is too contrasty, and the skin tones are still too orange. The orange push that affects the skin tones seems to affect other areas of the frame as well, as officer Bast’s clothes take on a reddish/brownish tone in certain areas. I actually have frames for this shot at home:

The skin tones are less orange, and the overall look of the scene is noticeably cooler, due to the use of blue lighting. Using these frames as a reference, and taking into account the issues I have mentioned, I would grade the shot like this for a technicolor version:

Here’s what it looks like when corrected for the technicolor green cast:

Here’s a comparison:

http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/121JNNNU

Here’s a short video I made to show how the colors look in motion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpKrtzV57Gs&feature=youtu.be

Edit:

Here is a link to download a higher quality version, since the youtube conversion seem to have affected the brightness and saturation somewhat:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dakoKSU56NaFfIpshNGhHF-fvl6-XbDp/view?usp=drivesdk

Any updates on V2?

Thank you for all the hard work on this!