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Solo: A Star Wars Story — Official Review and Opinions Thread — SPOILERS — Page 11

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And isn’t shot like a soup oprea.

“Get over violence, madness and death? What else is there?”

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paja said:

And isn’t shot like a soup oprea.

This is probably true. I don’t know what it would look like if it was shot like a soup opera, but probably not this.

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Hardcore Legend said:

a_o said:

Han hasn’t been fully double-crossed by Qi’ra, left to become the jaded and cynical smuggler we meet in the first Star Wars film. He was tough (war is hell) and had some moral center (deal with Enfys) but the ‘price on my head, and my best girl left me, you guys can’t be serious about this ~the force~ stuff’ Han Solo doesn’t exist quite yet.

so, this is like the prequels, but for Han Solo and not Anakin Skywalker.

He ends the movie literally seeking out jabba the hutt.

This presumes there is not the intention of more Solo films existing. If the point of this film was to get Han from youth to the guy we meet in ANH, it failed. But I don’t think that was the plan.

There doesn’t even have to be sequels for that to not have to be the plan. Not every prequel has to end with the characters in the exact place we next see them (in fact I remember there being much handwringing that that’s what they’d do).

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Clint Howard’s Gonk Wars was a thing that exists in this movie.

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As a Star Wars origin film, I enjoyed it.

A lot of it felt contrived - there’s a lot of callbacks that will be grating to some but didn’t bother me. The Imperial Officer giving Han a surname reminded me of the “Darth… Vader!” scene from ROTS.

There are plenty of quiet scenes with long dialogue, that I thought gave the story a chance to breathe without the high-stakes frantic action of the other films.

1337 wasn’t as annoying as I feared she could have been. As soon as Lando boasted about her navigational database I figured her brain would have to end up in the Falcon.

And Han shot first! I didn’t see that coming but should have.

I do feel slightly vindicated as I had earlier predicted the film would end with a reference to Docking Bay 94 on Tatooine. That didn’t happen of course, but Han is at least heading in that direction.

Funnily enough the part that grated me most was meeting Chewie - either Han has superhuman strength, or Chewie was going very easy on him for some reason. Also not sure about the other Wookiee we meet - the mask looked like it would fit better on a Planet of the Apes set.

Overall, I put the film slightly below Rogue One and slightly above TLJ.

They told me they’d fixed it!

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Why did he not have a surname? He talks about his dad later…

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That’s an interesting definition of “vindicated.”

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DominicCobb said:

That’s an interesting definition of “vindicated.”

Heh, slightly. As in “still wrong, but not way off base”.

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Kinda like The Last Jedi, I’m not sure exactly what to think of this movie. Darth Maul really KILLED the mood for me. Like, I felt my stomach turn as soon as I realized who it was. I was disgusted (and still am)!

I thought it started a bit slow and took some time to find its footing. Once it did I was quite enjoying it. Then Maul happened and everything fell apart.

I loved Chewie and pretty much everything involving him. He was about as perfect as I could have hoped for and was truly the highlight of the movie for me.

I thought Han and Lando were both good. Not great, but pretty darn good. I don’t have any problem buying these new actors as the classic characters.

Lando’s droid was grating. I thought her design and visual fx execution was awesome, but her personality sucked. But I don’t enjoy people in real life who constantly beat you over the head with their personal idealologies and beliefs so I’m not surprised that I thought a movie character like that was just obnoxious.

I liked the Droid rebellion in theory but in execution it just wasn’t as funny as they clearly wanted it to be. Which was actually an issue throughout the movie for me. The humor just didn’t land, where it should’ve been on par with Raiders of the Lost Ark or ESB in that regard.

The Falcon was handled quite well. No complaints there. The train robbery and Kessel run were both solid action pieces.

So I guess overall I enjoyed the middle of the film a fair bit, but the beginning and ending (not just the Maul bit, but that was certainly the most egregious) both kinda fell on their faces.

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L3 was obnoxious? Huh, that’s a weird interpretation.

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TV’s Frink said:

L3 was obnoxious? Huh, that’s a weird interpretation.

Are you being sarcastic?

That droid believed in a worthy cause (freedom from slavery) but was riding a fine line on becoming 1) A distraction from the movie’s storyline and 2) A caricature of modern SJW’s to whom the term obnoxious does easily apply.

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trimboNZ said:

DominicCobb said:

That’s an interesting definition of “vindicated.”

Heh, slightly. As in “still wrong, but not way off base”.

I’d probably call that way off base but hey, you do you.

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trimboNZ said:

A caricature of modern SJW’s to whom the term obnoxious does easily apply.

Oh ok you’re one of those people who uses insults like SJW. Gotcha.

I’ll refrain from further comment to avoid causing a mod who hasn’t seen the movie yet to get spoiled.

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trimboNZ said:

TV’s Frink said:

L3 was obnoxious? Huh, that’s a weird interpretation.

A caricature of modern SJW’s to whom the term obnoxious does easily apply.

How so? Please explain this, and the difference between that and your ‘droid believed in a worthy cause (freedom from slavery)’ statement.

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oojason said:

trimboNZ said:

TV’s Frink said:

L3 was obnoxious? Huh, that’s a weird interpretation.

A caricature of modern SJW’s to whom the term obnoxious does easily apply.

How so? Please explain this, and the difference between that and your ‘droid believed in a worthy cause (freedom from slavery)’ statement.

Sorry if I’ve upset anyone.

To be clear, I’m not talking about equal rights campaigners. I mean people who actively seek out things to be offended about, then complain about them loudly and persistently.

You don’t have those?

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trimboNZ said:

oojason said:

trimboNZ said:

TV’s Frink said:

L3 was obnoxious? Huh, that’s a weird interpretation.

A caricature of modern SJW’s to whom the term obnoxious does easily apply.

How so? Please explain this, and the difference between that and your ‘droid believed in a worthy cause (freedom from slavery)’ statement.

Sorry if I’ve upset anyone.

To be clear, I’m not talking about equal rights campaigners. I mean people who actively seek out things to be offended about, then complain about them loudly and persistently.

You don’t have those?

No worries (and you haven’t upset me) - am just asking what the difference is between the two? - As in equal rights campaigners will complain loud and persistently to get their point across or highlight or promote their cause - how do they differ (in being recognised) from those who seek out things to be offended about?

As it seems in the film she was only highlighting the droid rights/equality issue, yes?

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I quite liked the droid rights subplot. It’s a massive injustice in the galaxy that’s been strangely glossed over by our heroes, and to have a droid be an advocate for the cause is totally earned for me. Also, this is no protocol droid, so it probably doesn’t care what people think of it or if it’s grating. I found it refreshing that it wasn’t quiet or tactful.

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dahmage said:

Has anyone seen this twice yet?

No but I want to see it again

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trimboNZ said:

Funnily enough the part that grated me most was meeting Chewie - either Han has superhuman strength, or Chewie was going very easy on him for some reason. Also not sure about the other Wookiee we meet - the mask looked like it would fit better on a Planet of the Apes set.

Overall, I put the film slightly below Rogue One and slightly above TLJ.

Han was wearing armor when Chewie was throwing him around.

The other Wookiee looked kinda off, but I put that down to him being a slave and abused.

It seems like people are really embracing the new characters. In fact, the big question people ask me now about Star Wars is, “Are Finn and Poe gay lovers?” And really how the f*ck would I know? My second husband left me for a man, so my gaydar isn’t exactly what you’d call Death Star level quality. ----Carrie Fisher

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lovelikewinter said:
The other Wookiee looked kinda off, but I put that down to him being a slave and abused.

Yeah, the slave wookies are intentionally skinny and malnourished looking.

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snooker said:

lovelikewinter said:
The other Wookiee looked kinda off, but I put that down to him being a slave and abused.

Yeah, the slave wookies are intentionally skinny and malnourished looking.

I think I saw patches of fur missing too. I will have to check again when it comes out on blu-ray.

It seems like people are really embracing the new characters. In fact, the big question people ask me now about Star Wars is, “Are Finn and Poe gay lovers?” And really how the f*ck would I know? My second husband left me for a man, so my gaydar isn’t exactly what you’d call Death Star level quality. ----Carrie Fisher

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TV’s Frink said:

L3 was obnoxious? Huh, that’s a weird interpretation.

Yeah, I wouldn’t have expected you to understand or agree with that opinion because (and I mean no personal offense by this) you kinda have a similar personality.

It wasn’t her ideas that bothered me, but the way she’s CONSTANTLY and forcefully “bible thumping” everyone around her with her own (almost always unsolicited) beliefs. I find that really obnoxious, whether I agree with said beliefs or not.

I didn’t hate her as a character, and I don’t mind there being characters that I personally don’t love (variety is a good thing). But she was annoying (thankfully not in an insufferable Jar-Jar kind of way) and I rolled my eyes at her more than once.

Oh, and all the implied sexual stuff was just weird and unnecessary, which also didn’t help my opinion of her as character.

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Overall it was a good story. Really fun at times, but also pretty boring. I think more jokes would of helped kept the slower scenes exciting.

I have watched some reviews that say the film lacked substance… this is not the case for me. It’s a story about a teenager learning about the dangers of the outside world, and to never trust anyone. Han undergoes a positive change without “joining the rebellion”, Han being much more cynical later on makes sense given the time gap. Alden doesn’t give a perfect Han impersonation, but instead creates a new younger take on the character.

Lando was excellent. L3 was hilarious as a parody of SJWs. They kept playing up the monkey guy like he was some hilarious pilot but I didn’t think much of him. I wasn’t too sure about Beckett until the end, his message is superb. I would of preferred if Nest was a marauder, but at the very least don’t make her a 15 year old.

I thought Emilla Clarke did a bad performance. Whenever her and Alden were on screen together it felt like she was reading from the script, although I am interested to see what happens next.

Darth Maul’s cameo was amazing… at first. When they didn’t show his face I was really excited with his appearance (I knew he was coming but thought he’d been in the background like those cantina guys), him leading the Shadow Collective sets up so many stories. They could create an entire cinematic universe with the characters they’ve set up. That being said, they should of cut right after he showed his face. The CGI was worse than Battlefront II and I cringed when the lightsaber turned on for no reason. Would of worked better as a post credit scene.

Story wise I thought the beginning was convoluted, they should of cut Correlia or the Battle Planet. I did like the “crawl” of sorts they did. Once they went to Vos the story started for real. Liked everything after that.

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You guys really believe that the droid was supposed to be an SJW parody even when it was created by a man who thinks it’s a good idea from a commercial point of view to talk about the sexuality of one of the characters during the film’s promotion?

The “problem” with the “slavery is bad” point of view is that we talk about MACHINES. AKA tools. My computer doesn’t have human rights. My fridge doesn’t have human rights. The coffee machine which created the coffee I am drinking right now is not my SLAVE, it’s a tool which was created for making my life slightly easier. Star Trek did it correctly - I guess most of you (or maybe even everybody) has seen The Measure of a Man, the writer was so much smarter than Kasdan Jr. She gave questions, but no answers. I miss subtleties in current scripts.