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More info on the x0project.com site.
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It's natural that it looked better on TV since TV's aren't as high resolution as a monitor. As bad as my project looks, it doesn't look as bad on my TV.
Patrick
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It's natural that it looked better on TV since TV's aren't as high resolution as a monitor. As bad as my project looks, it doesn't look as bad on my TV.
Patrick
More info on the x0project.com site.
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<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>
<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>
<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>
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Once I get a finished cowclops disc in my hands, I will definately be using it for my comparison shots. At this stage though I don't think it is 'out' yet.
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A little patience goes a long way on this old-school Rebel base. If you are having issues finding what you are looking for, these will be of some help…
Welcome to the OriginalTrilogy.com | Introduce yourself in here | Useful info within : About : Help : Site Rules : Fan Project Rules : Announcements
‘How do I do this?’ on the OriginalTrilogy.com; some info & answers + FAQs - includes info on how to search for projects and threads on the OT•com
A Project Index for Star Wars Preservations (Harmy’s Despecialized & 4K77/80/83 etc) : A Project Index for Star Wars Fan Edits (adywan & Hal 9000 etc)
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My Projects:
[Holiday Special Hybrid DVD v2]
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[ROTS Theatrical DVD]
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Moth3r, there will be some PAL news soon - what LD player did you use for your capture?
What ever happened to those DVD compares someone was going to post?
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Dr. M
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Im actually pressed for HD space myself and am looking to get myself a new hd..so 2 possibilities...if i do that i could possibly loan you my 120 gig Western Digital...but i would also be willing to say join up with 2 or 3 other people and chip in for a ~100 gig drive
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http://www.dttechnology.com/showproduct.aspx?productid=122
hope this helps
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Originally posted by: Laserman
Moth3r, there will be some PAL news soon - what LD player did you use for your capture?
I look forward to it. My cap was from a D925. Moth3r, there will be some PAL news soon - what LD player did you use for your capture?
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1.) I was wondering if anyone has used and/or plans to try out AVISynth?
2.) As far as screenshots go, I've noticed that it looks like there are comparisons between the first TR-47 transfer and X0 transfer. In the comparisons, aren't the TR-47 frames taken from a finished DVD and not a raw AVI file? I'm not doubting that the X0 is going to provide the best source, but is it a fair comparison if you compare an uncompressed AVI frame to a compressed MPEG-2 frame? I've read that Cowclops cannot provide an uncompressed frame, but wouldn't it be possible to provide an MPEG-2 compressed X0 frame?
Patrick
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I haven't finalised the compression rates that we will be using yet, but I have converted my images down to the same colour space, and they are jpeg-ed so what you are seeing isn't exactly the same as the raw images, but very, very close to what will be on the DVD, and in fact the displayed images are lower quality than our hidef conversion.
On the testing I have been doing, the differences are tiny between the encoded images and the 'raw' images, and at this stage it is too much work to encode them into a DVD format and then re-extract the image to do compares. We will throw up that sort of comparison when we are in the encoding phase of the project.
The comparisons are mainly in the area of colour balance, lack of crosstalk induced video noise, and dynamic range, none of which are going to be changed by the encoding process in any real way.
The large differences shown in those compares isn't going to change much just due to an encode (and it will be nothing less than a dual layer encode)
The fine detail may change a little, but in our testing not by much at all.
The images shown so far are far from finished anyway, there is a lot more work ot be done to them, and they will only improve from here. I'd bet my left nut that the images we are showing now will be *worse* than what is on the final discs!
But yeah, it is worth pointing out for anyone who hadn't thought about that part of it.
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What’s the internal temperature of a TaunTaun? Luke warm.
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I have also signed up for the newsletter as I am curious and excited to see how things are progressing.
AVISynth is definitely a program I'm going to have to learn. I know the power of it, I just don't know which of the 1000's of options to use.
Patrick
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(and let's not forget 'other'
)I just found out about this fan preservation thing, but already I think yours looks the most promising (well, and mverta's for different reasons). I don't have much practical video experience, but if I had the equipment I'm sure I'd be trying something like X0 myself. Until then, I'm glad to offer what little I can to your cause. I don't have any hard drives lying around, I'm afraid, but I've made a small donation through the site. I hope it helps!
A site question (sorry if it's been answered here and I just missed it): Why is there a 'login' form? Or is that just for X0 team members?
Thanks and good luck!
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I want to ask which bitrate encoding method gives the best results. Variable or Constant? I ask because that will probably determine which one I go with on my project.
Thanks.
Patrick
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If the images are on the soft side, and you are going dual layer, then it probably won't make any difference if the bitrates are high enough. Past a certain bitrate you stop getting any improvements at all.
In general, a multi pass variable bitrate is best, just don't set the minimum bitrate too low or your quality might suffer.
The problem really occurs where you have detailed images, or a long movie and are going out single layer. Constant bit rates just can't get high enough for the amount data you want to store *and still fit on the disc*, so if going constant, you get ugly problems. (Basically because you need high bitrates for some scenes to look any good at all, but you don't have the space on the disc to do that)
This is where variable bitrates can help, you save space by having a lower bitrate on the scenes that don't really need a high bitrate, and then can use a higher bitrate for the problem scenes, and still fit it onto your disc. Have too low a bitrate on the easy scenes though and they will get ugly, so it is a balancing act.
At work we run an 8 pass variable bitrate, and then look at any potential problem areas and manually change those.