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oojason said:

If people are complaining that TFA was too safe - and now complaining that it is too different - then that is no comment on the quality (good or bad etc) of the film itself. These is no inference in their statements that ‘different is automatically good’ at all.

I suppose to a degree, although criticizing a film for being too safe, does imply it would have been better, if it was less safe. Being safe is percieved as a weakness of the film, meaning it would be stronger without that weakness. Since, TLJ is percieved as not being safe, that would imply it does not have this weakness, even of it may have a host of other weaknesses. I think it goes a bit far to suggest, that a film being too similar or too different isn’t in some way meant to reflect of the quality of the film in question.

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oojason said:

It’ll be interesting to see members’ views after Episode IX is released and we’ve all had time to take in the Sequel Trilogy as a whole.

As of right now, a lot of the differing and passionate opinions on here and throughout the various threads… may well change upon completion and reflection of seeing everything in the ST tied together - as a trilogy in itself, and as part of the whole saga overall.
 

Two down, one to go… 😃

That’s an interesting question indeed. Aside from the ST, I think it’s also interesting to consider how the ST will connect to the rest of the saga. It is meant to be part of a nine part saga afterall. I’m a bit skeptical, but TLJ does make it impossible for Abrams to create ROTJ 2.0, so it may turn out to be the greatest setup in the history of Star Wars.

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The thing is: pretty much nobody in the world knows how Episode 9 will play out. That includes people at LucasFilm. If there ever was a plan for the sequel trilogy, it seems pretty obvious to me that RJ just threw it out of the window because he was trying to be “edgy”. I hope I’m wrong, but it doesn’t seem like they are trying to tell a story spread across three films anymore. Instead, their main incentive seems to be “lets make Star Wars films”. Because of that I’m not really interested in Episode 9. The dream is dead and the odds of JJ Abrams of all people being able to bring it back to life are approximately three thousand seven hundred and twenty to one.

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DrDre said:

oojason said:

If people are complaining that TFA was too safe - and now complaining that it is too different - then that is no comment on the quality (good or bad etc) of the film itself. These is no inference in their statements that ‘different is automatically good’ at all.

I suppose to a degree, although criticizing a film for being too safe, does imply it would have been better, if it was less safe. Being safe is percieved as a weakness of the film, meaning it would be stronger without that weakness. Since, TLJ is percieved as not being safe, that would imply it does not have this weakness, even of it may have a host of other weaknesses. I think it goes a bit far to suggest, that a film being too similar or too different isn’t in some way meant to reflect of the quality of the film in question.

A film can be quality and enjoyable and many positive other things (as well as on the negative side - or just plain shite 😉) - though still be ‘played safe’ overall.

For me, being ‘played safe’ is not a weakness at all - especially for example… the context of TFA (as stated above, the $4b acquisition and coming after the Prequels).

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DrDre said:

oojason said:

It’ll be interesting to see members’ views after Episode IX is released and we’ve all had time to take in the Sequel Trilogy as a whole.

As of right now, a lot of the differing and passionate opinions on here and throughout the various threads… may well change upon completion and reflection of seeing everything in the ST tied together - as a trilogy in itself, and as part of the whole saga overall.
 

Two down, one to go… 😃

That’s an interesting question indeed. Aside from the ST, I think it’s also interesting to consider how the ST will connect to the rest of the saga. It is meant to be part of a nine part saga afterall. I’m a bit skeptical, but TLJ does make it impossible for Abrams to create ROTJ 2.0, so it may turn out to be the greatest setup in the history of Star Wars.

Cough… six part saga… cough… (9 if you wish to count the Ewok films and Holiday Special) 😉

I fully agree with you re JJ and ROTJ 2.0 now - the setup is all there… bring it on 😃

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Dat_SW_Guy said:

A little nice tidbit I found while browsing online is that Rian Johnson missed a detail to Luke’s death during the filming of TLJ. When Luke “became one with the force”, his robotic hand would “clunk” to the ground, and apparently he missed that. So when Luke comes back as a force ghost, he might have one hand missing. Just a little thing I wan’t to share.
Anakin (in any version) isn’t missing most of his body.

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I think it would had been a touching moment for the mechanical hand to fall, but I agree that a Force ghost Luke would have both hands in tact. Ultimately, kind of a non-issue because just as Rian Johnson forgot to film that little detail, I bet many of us that watched it also didn’t think about it, me included.

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TavorX said:

I think it would had been a touching moment for the mechanical hand to fall, but I agree that a Force ghost Luke would have both hands in tact. Ultimately, kind of a non-issue because just as Rian Johnson forgot to film that little detail, I bet many of us that watched it also didn’t think about it, me included.

As with Leila and Chewie ignoring each other after Han’s death isn’t the standard explanation, “because the Force”?

The blue elephant in the room.

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Mrebo said:

TavorX said:

I think it would had been a touching moment for the mechanical hand to fall, but I agree that a Force ghost Luke would have both hands in tact. Ultimately, kind of a non-issue because just as Rian Johnson forgot to film that little detail, I bet many of us that watched it also didn’t think about it, me included.

As with Leila and Chewie ignoring each other after Han’s death isn’t the standard explanation, “because the Force”?

Being honest here, I’m not sure what you’re trying to relate here between that stuff in TFA and Luke becoming one with the Force?

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Why does broom boy in the end of TLJ knows how to use the force? Is the force now like magic is from Harry Potter? Lightsabers chose people, everyone that’s sensitive to it can use it without even knowing…

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oojason said:

Valheru_84 said:

DrDre said:

Sothis said:

DominicCobb said:

What’s funny to me is people complained that TFA played it too safe, now this did the opposite of that and people are still complaining.

this is too real.

Since when is different automatically good?

Someone actually demonstrated as well how TLJ is still generally a repeat of a lot of parts TESB and some ROTJ, it’s just no where near as obvious and in your face as TFA was.

.Val

.Val mate, a point of view in the form of a video for your consideration in regard to TFA… (done before TLJ was filmed)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pueu2wu0M5s

This is the most unbiased video I’ve seen on the matter.

Edit: This is his Rey/Mary Sue video.

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Collipso said:

Why does broom boy in the end of TLJ knows how to use the force? Is the force now like magic is from Harry Potter? Lightsabers chose people, everyone that’s sensitive to it can use it without even knowing…

Even I’m unsure how to make of it. I think the inclusion of broom kid is fine to sell the message that it’s time for the galaxy to rise up, but I also am not a fan of him casually using the Force. People had issue with Rey picking up on the Force too quick, but I at least think it was gradual enough for me to buy it. But all of a sudden, broom boy just has this power? It would had been way better if they removed that Force part and just have the kid raise his broom up like a saber, and that would be it.

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oojason said:

DrDre said:

oojason said:

It’ll be interesting to see members’ views after Episode IX is released and we’ve all had time to take in the Sequel Trilogy as a whole.

As of right now, a lot of the differing and passionate opinions on here and throughout the various threads… may well change upon completion and reflection of seeing everything in the ST tied together - as a trilogy in itself, and as part of the whole saga overall.
 

Two down, one to go… 😃

That’s an interesting question indeed. Aside from the ST, I think it’s also interesting to consider how the ST will connect to the rest of the saga. It is meant to be part of a nine part saga afterall. I’m a bit skeptical, but TLJ does make it impossible for Abrams to create ROTJ 2.0, so it may turn out to be the greatest setup in the history of Star Wars.

Cough… six part saga… cough… (9 if you wish to count the Ewok films and Holiday Special) 😉

I fully agree with you re JJ and ROTJ 2.0 now - the setup is all there… bring it on 😃

I agree, the Holiday Special is still the high point in the saga for me. Why write witty dialogue, if you can put it into song?! 😃

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Projected 68% percent drop in movie ticket sales this weekend; that is Batman vs Superman territory. TFA dropped 39% from its first weekend to its second. We can speculate over the ‘real’ review numbers, but box office numbers will generally indicate how the movie going public really feels about a movie; case in point, The Justice League which will most likely finish its box office run with less than $700 million worldwide.

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Hardcore Legend said:

Shopping Maul said:

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SilverWook said:

Rescued a princess, helped deliver the DS plans to the rebels. He did blow up the first Death Star. Got a medal for it too. If he never did another thing after that, he would be a legend.

The shield generator mission might have not succeeded without Han being there, or Luke making the Ewoks into allies.

I’m sure 30 years on, the stories about Luke have been retold over and over to the point that they only bear passing resemblance to what actually happened.

Yeah, but I’m talking specifically about ROTJ’s climax. The whole build-up throughout the OT was about Luke being the last hope, the only hope, not abandoning his training, not giving in to the quick and easy path etc etc etc. “Only a fully trained Jedi Knight will conquer Vader and his Emperor”. Even Lucas said that Luke’s actions on Death Star II led to the Emperor’s defeat and saving the universe. But that’s just not true. Luke was irrelevant at that point.

Luke was not strong enough to defeat the Emperor on his own. He knew the only way he could do it was to turn Vader. He was willing to sacrifice his life by laying down his weapon and refusing to kill his father in hopes that he would join him in defeating the Emperor. It worked.

Not sure where the confusion is. Did you want Luke to become a superhero and physically defeat 2 full realized Sith despite receiving minimal training?

There is nothing to suggest Luke had any desire to defeat the Emperor at all. Quite the contrary, he threw his weapon aside and declared “I am a Jedi, like my father before me”. There’s no way the broken Darth Vader was in any position to help take down the Emperor at this point. Luke’s only concern in this entire process was a) getting out of the way so as not to endanger the Endor mission and b) turning Anakin to the ‘good side’. In fact he spent the entire process making sure he didn’t fight anybody, and only gave in to battling Vader when he was goaded (which apparently is wrong by Jedi standards).

So, just to recap, Luke didn’t want to fight anyone at all (rendering him entirely useless while an actual battle raged outside), was only concerned about Anakin’s spiritual welfare (again not helpful to the rebellion/battle in any way), and his only tangible contribution to this entire scenario was inadvertently (ie not purposefully because he was only concerned with his Dad’s well-being) preventing Palpatine’s possible escape from the exploding Death Star.

Which is fine (and he recruited the Ewoks as a previous poster mentioned) but none of this grants a shred of credence to the 3-film buildup that suggested Luke was the hope of the Galaxy or that Jedi themselves are a remotely good idea in this universe. If Jedi aren’t allowed to fight, turn irreversibly evil at the drop of a hat, and get cosmically forgiven for ghastly war-crimes if they selfishly save their own flesh and blood at the last minute, then I’m not so sure we want Luke to ‘pass on what he has learned’.

Even more ironically, Vader got his cosmic pardon by brutally killing the Emperor! So apparently trying to kill the Emperor because he’s slaughtering thousands of rebels is a path to the Dark Side, but killing the guy in defence of your own son is infinitely more noble and a path to the ‘good side’?

What are you talking about? The line before what you are clinging to is about how he won’t be turned to the dark side.
Furthermore, he wasn’t useless. As he says (again) he was willing to be blown up on DSII to ensure that the Emperor was onboard while the Rebels destroyed it. His part of the mission was the occupy the two most powerful beings in the galaxy.

His destiny as the Jedi saw it was to kill his father and the Emperor.
His destiny as the Sith saw it was to kill his father and join the Emperor by giving into his anger.
Luke chose a 3rd path. Turn his father to the light and defeat the Emperor.
He was willing to die rather than give into either of the two destinies the two sides saw for him. He brought balance to the Force.

Vader didn’t “brutally kill” the Emperor. He heard his son begging for ‘help’ as he was having the life shocked out of him and he threw the Emperor over a railing.

I feel like perhaps we saw two different versions of the film.

None of the ‘destiny’ stuff had any bearing on the war’s outcome whatsoever. There was no ‘balance to the Force’ in '83, but even if there was - so what? Do you really think the families of all the dead rebel pilots would be thrilled to hear Luke say “hey guys, I brought balance to the Force!”? How did Vader’s killing Palpatine 5 minutes before he would’ve been blown up anyway have any tangible effect other than fulfilling Luke and Anakin’s religious desires?

As for distracting the Emperor, there is NOTHING in the movie that suggests this was Luke’s ‘plan’. Luke’s “soon I’ll be dead, and you with me” line was him being cocky in the belief that Palpatine wasn’t privy to the rebels’ plan. And distracting from what exactly? The plan was going great. Han and Leia were captured, rebel ships were being picked off by the Death Star. What benefit was there to Luke hiding under a staircase and saying “I will not fight you”?

The things that saved the rebellion were the intervention of the Ewoks (which as another poster mentioned was thanks to Luke) and Chewie’s hijacking a Scout Walker. Luke’s battle with Vader/Palpatine was completely irrelevant to this process. The only benefit from Luke’s actions was that he accidentally created circumstances that prevented Palpatine’s possible escape from the exploding battle station.

Look, I think that ROTJ (like the prequels) is a great story told badly. I think it would have been better if Luke and the bad guys had at least been at another location - say the bridge of the Executor (without the big crash into the Death Star). I also wish he’d been proactive throughout the battle - never laying down his weapon or hiding under the stairs - but actively defying Palpatine’s actions rather than just trying to keep his Zen cool at all costs. That way you could legitimately say - irrespective of the details concerning Anakin - that Luke Skywalker destroyed the Emperor outright. This is a legend worthy of future admiration and a new Jedi Order. As it stands Luke’s actions come off as a kind of private religious trip with results that have a negligible effect on the actual battle’s outcome.

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Projected 68% percent drop in movie ticket sales this weekend; that is Batman vs Superman territory. TFA dropped 39% from its first weekend to its second. We can speculate over the ‘real’ review numbers, but box office numbers will generally indicate how the movie going public really feels about a movie; case in point, The Justice League which will most likely finish its box office run with less than $700 million worldwide.

Most hardcore fans have seen the film, and Christmas being on a Monday this year means one last full weekend of shopping madness. Also, this is the third SW flick we’ve had since 2015. Arguably there was a lot of pent up demand when TFA came out.

I’m old enough to remember when the holiday season was a terrible time to open a non holiday film/non kid’s movie.

At least the Jumanji remake didn’t beat it. That would have been embarrassing. 😉

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Collipso said:

SilverWook said:

Disney Ruined Star Wars said:

SilverWook said:

If these guys aren’t all being sucked out into space, then a similar emergency field around a small door isn’t a stretch.

Seriously people, we’re nitpicking movies where you can hear sounds in space.

They can have shields that allow for open air on the exterior of the Death Star. Its’ that way when the Falcon lands in the first movie too. But in general I agree with your point, the scientific stuff doesn’t need to be nitpicked as long as its not obvious and really dumb. For instance, the asteroids in the asteroid field would never be that close together in real life. And when the Millenium Falcon flips and spins like it does when it turns around on Bespin, all of the occupants would be thrown around and probably incapacitated if not killed.

Presumably the Falcon’s artificial gravity prevents this. Just like Luke and Han can sit in the gun turrets without seatbelts even though they are facing out the top and bottom of the ship.

Were they? I thought they were both facing forward, but one was at the top and the other at the bottom.

Yes. I wrote a much lengthier post about it some time ago, but the windows you look out in the Gun turrets are flush on the top and bottom of the Falcon. So top gunner is on his back and the bottom gunner is on his belly, relative to the Falcon. ANH is really the only film that actually gets the turrets operation (based on their actual physical design) correct. TFA and TLJ take some major liberties with the physics of how the turrets could really move. Also, even back in the original EU they had the idea that the armored disc the turret window is mounted in could rotate (which is made cannon in TFA) but in reality this would mean the ladder tube you climb up or down into the turrets would not be correctly lined up anymore.



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canofhumdingers said:

Collipso said:

SilverWook said:

Disney Ruined Star Wars said:

SilverWook said:

If these guys aren’t all being sucked out into space, then a similar emergency field around a small door isn’t a stretch.

Seriously people, we’re nitpicking movies where you can hear sounds in space.

They can have shields that allow for open air on the exterior of the Death Star. Its’ that way when the Falcon lands in the first movie too. But in general I agree with your point, the scientific stuff doesn’t need to be nitpicked as long as its not obvious and really dumb. For instance, the asteroids in the asteroid field would never be that close together in real life. And when the Millenium Falcon flips and spins like it does when it turns around on Bespin, all of the occupants would be thrown around and probably incapacitated if not killed.

Presumably the Falcon’s artificial gravity prevents this. Just like Luke and Han can sit in the gun turrets without seatbelts even though they are facing out the top and bottom of the ship.

Were they? I thought they were both facing forward, but one was at the top and the other at the bottom.

Yes. I wrote a much lengthier post about it some time ago, but the windows you look out in the Gun turrets are flush on the top and bottom of the Falcon. So top gunner is on his back and the bottom gunner is on his belly, relative to the Falcon. ANH is really the only film that actually gets the turrets operation (based on their actual physical design) correct. TFA and TLJ take some major liberties with the physics of how the turrets could really move. Also, even back in the original EU they had the idea that the armored disc the turret window is mounted in could rotate (which is made cannon in TFA) but in reality this would mean the ladder tube you climb up or down into the turrets would not be correctly lined up anymore.



Okay, so I know this is really nerdy, but can you explain where the bunk bed in TFA/TLJ came from? IN ANH that entire area is a kind of messy black wall (you can see it when the Stormtroopers board the Falcon).

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Maybe it was formerly a smuggling compartment re-purposed into a sleeping area?

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SilverWook said:

Maybe it was formerly a smuggling compartment re-purposed into a sleeping area?

I like it! Thanks SilverWook - now I can sleep easy! Have a great Xmas/Festivus/Life Day…

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Dat_SW_Guy said:

A little nice tidbit I found while browsing online is that Rian Johnson missed a detail to Luke’s death during the filming of TLJ. When Luke “became one with the force”, his robotic hand would “clunk” to the ground, and apparently he missed that. So when Luke comes back as a force ghost, he might have one hand missing. Just a little thing I wan’t to share.

Seriously?

I guess Vader Never vanished but practically he is more machine than man… 😃

Having a giggle about this

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Shopping Maul said:

canofhumdingers said:

Collipso said:

SilverWook said:

Disney Ruined Star Wars said:

SilverWook said:

If these guys aren’t all being sucked out into space, then a similar emergency field around a small door isn’t a stretch.

Seriously people, we’re nitpicking movies where you can hear sounds in space.

They can have shields that allow for open air on the exterior of the Death Star. Its’ that way when the Falcon lands in the first movie too. But in general I agree with your point, the scientific stuff doesn’t need to be nitpicked as long as its not obvious and really dumb. For instance, the asteroids in the asteroid field would never be that close together in real life. And when the Millenium Falcon flips and spins like it does when it turns around on Bespin, all of the occupants would be thrown around and probably incapacitated if not killed.

Presumably the Falcon’s artificial gravity prevents this. Just like Luke and Han can sit in the gun turrets without seatbelts even though they are facing out the top and bottom of the ship.

Were they? I thought they were both facing forward, but one was at the top and the other at the bottom.

Yes. I wrote a much lengthier post about it some time ago, but the windows you look out in the Gun turrets are flush on the top and bottom of the Falcon. So top gunner is on his back and the bottom gunner is on his belly, relative to the Falcon. ANH is really the only film that actually gets the turrets operation (based on their actual physical design) correct. TFA and TLJ take some major liberties with the physics of how the turrets could really move. Also, even back in the original EU they had the idea that the armored disc the turret window is mounted in could rotate (which is made cannon in TFA) but in reality this would mean the ladder tube you climb up or down into the turrets would not be correctly lined up anymore.



Okay, so I know this is really nerdy, but can you explain where the bunk bed in TFA/TLJ came from? IN ANH that entire area is a kind of messy black wall (you can see it when the Stormtroopers board the Falcon).

In ESB, you see Luke on the same bed.
(Basing from memory of course)

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Dat_SW_Guy said:

Shopping Maul said:

canofhumdingers said:

Collipso said:

SilverWook said:

Disney Ruined Star Wars said:

SilverWook said:

If these guys aren’t all being sucked out into space, then a similar emergency field around a small door isn’t a stretch.

Seriously people, we’re nitpicking movies where you can hear sounds in space.

They can have shields that allow for open air on the exterior of the Death Star. Its’ that way when the Falcon lands in the first movie too. But in general I agree with your point, the scientific stuff doesn’t need to be nitpicked as long as its not obvious and really dumb. For instance, the asteroids in the asteroid field would never be that close together in real life. And when the Millenium Falcon flips and spins like it does when it turns around on Bespin, all of the occupants would be thrown around and probably incapacitated if not killed.

Presumably the Falcon’s artificial gravity prevents this. Just like Luke and Han can sit in the gun turrets without seatbelts even though they are facing out the top and bottom of the ship.

Were they? I thought they were both facing forward, but one was at the top and the other at the bottom.

Yes. I wrote a much lengthier post about it some time ago, but the windows you look out in the Gun turrets are flush on the top and bottom of the Falcon. So top gunner is on his back and the bottom gunner is on his belly, relative to the Falcon. ANH is really the only film that actually gets the turrets operation (based on their actual physical design) correct. TFA and TLJ take some major liberties with the physics of how the turrets could really move. Also, even back in the original EU they had the idea that the armored disc the turret window is mounted in could rotate (which is made cannon in TFA) but in reality this would mean the ladder tube you climb up or down into the turrets would not be correctly lined up anymore.



Okay, so I know this is really nerdy, but can you explain where the bunk bed in TFA/TLJ came from? IN ANH that entire area is a kind of messy black wall (you can see it when the Stormtroopers board the Falcon).

In ESB, you see Luke on the same bed.
(Basing from memory of course)

No, that’s a different bunk.

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Sothis said:

DominicCobb said:

What’s funny to me is people complained that TFA played it too safe, now this did the opposite of that and people are still complaining.

this is too real.

Since when is anything for everybody?

There were people who didn’t like Star Wars in '77.
There were people who liked Star Wars in '77 who didn’t like ESB in '80.
There were people who liked Star Wars in '77 and ESB in '80 but not ROTJ in ‘83.
This has happened with every film. Nothin’ new at all. This is the way everything works.
Nothing is for everybody. No big deal.

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Dat_SW_Guy said:

Shopping Maul said:

canofhumdingers said:

Collipso said:

SilverWook said:

Disney Ruined Star Wars said:

SilverWook said:

If these guys aren’t all being sucked out into space, then a similar emergency field around a small door isn’t a stretch.

Seriously people, we’re nitpicking movies where you can hear sounds in space.

They can have shields that allow for open air on the exterior of the Death Star. Its’ that way when the Falcon lands in the first movie too. But in general I agree with your point, the scientific stuff doesn’t need to be nitpicked as long as its not obvious and really dumb. For instance, the asteroids in the asteroid field would never be that close together in real life. And when the Millenium Falcon flips and spins like it does when it turns around on Bespin, all of the occupants would be thrown around and probably incapacitated if not killed.

Presumably the Falcon’s artificial gravity prevents this. Just like Luke and Han can sit in the gun turrets without seatbelts even though they are facing out the top and bottom of the ship.

Were they? I thought they were both facing forward, but one was at the top and the other at the bottom.

Yes. I wrote a much lengthier post about it some time ago, but the windows you look out in the Gun turrets are flush on the top and bottom of the Falcon. So top gunner is on his back and the bottom gunner is on his belly, relative to the Falcon. ANH is really the only film that actually gets the turrets operation (based on their actual physical design) correct. TFA and TLJ take some major liberties with the physics of how the turrets could really move. Also, even back in the original EU they had the idea that the armored disc the turret window is mounted in could rotate (which is made cannon in TFA) but in reality this would mean the ladder tube you climb up or down into the turrets would not be correctly lined up anymore.



Okay, so I know this is really nerdy, but can you explain where the bunk bed in TFA/TLJ came from? IN ANH that entire area is a kind of messy black wall (you can see it when the Stormtroopers board the Falcon).

In ESB, you see Luke on the same bed.
(Basing from memory of course)

I thought so too, but it’s not in that location.

Funnily enough, I never really had a sense of the Falcon’s interior despite years of watching the OT on VHS over and over. I knew that some extra stuff had been added for TESB, but that was merely in places that hadn’t been shown in ANH.

In TFA they really did a big walkaround in the Falcon - almost like a kind of Star Tours thing. I was suddenly like “no way, that’s how it all fits together?”. So I got interested and googled ‘Millenium Falcon Interior’ and got all these perspectives from the various movies. I’m fascinated by how the makers of the new film/s recreated the set, and how much they had to accomodate discrepancies between ANH and TESB, as well as 30 years’ wear and tear (it was a similar thing with Luke’s Tatooine homestead in AOTC).

Suffice to say, if you google ‘Millenium Falcon Interior A New Hope’ you’ll see there’s no bunk bed in that spot!

I really have no life! Merry Xmas!