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I’ll admit, sometimes in TFA, the on-location scenes sometimes don’t look sufficiently Star Wars-ish to me. I think there’s also some compounding factor (color grading? different cameras?) that does make some shots look kind of cheaply made.

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TV’s Frink said:

I’m sorry Wook but I can’t let this go.

ZigZig said:

IMHO, Mary Sue or not, the most interesting thing is that the hero of the new trilogy is a woman, not a man, isn’t it ?

Absolutely! And it was long overdue.

Discussing about her “Marysueness” and about the derogatory aspect or not of this word, is it not already a mysogynous act?

No. Calling out a misogynistic term for being misogynistic is not a misogynistic act. That’s ridiculous.

You forgot the next sentence where I tried to explain my point of view.
Which is maybe ridiculous to you, thank you for your honesty.
I PM you if you want to continue this discussion, as Wook asked to stop it in this thread.

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No thanks, I’ve made my point and I’m good.

JEDIT: Apparently I misunderstood the point of your post (cleared up via PM) and it sounds like we’re in agreement after all. 😃

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ChainsawAsh said:

I might be able to give you ROTS above ROTJ, but certainly not TFA.

TFA is certainly a better film on a technical level, what kills it for me is Starkiller Base and the story. Maybe it’ll grow on me with the release of TLJ. I go back and forth on ROTS vs ROTJ.

TV’s Frink said:

I understand people not liking TFA (especially if the rehash stuff bothers you) but I don’t see how anyone can claim any of the prequels are better-made movies.

If you enjoy them more, I guess I understand that…sort of.

I would certainly rank TFA higher if it were solely about how “well-made” the films are. That ranking in my view would go like this:

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ANH
TFA
R1
ROTJ
ROTS
AOTC
TPM

My previous ranking was just pure personal preference.

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I have no problem with someone ranking TFA or RO or ROTJ at the very bottom on an enjoyment/personal preference basis.

Which isn’t to say I think you aren’t crazy though. 😉

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mfastx said:

ChainsawAsh said:

I might be able to give you ROTS above ROTJ, but certainly not TFA.

TFA is certainly a better film on a technical level, what kills it for me is Starkiller Base and the story. Maybe it’ll grow on me with the release of TLJ. I go back and forth on ROTS vs ROTJ.

TV’s Frink said:

I understand people not liking TFA (especially if the rehash stuff bothers you) but I don’t see how anyone can claim any of the prequels are better-made movies.

If you enjoy them more, I guess I understand that…sort of.

I would certainly rank TFA higher if it were solely about how “well-made” the films are. That ranking in my view would go like this:

ESB
ANH
TFA
R1
ROTJ
ROTS
AOTC
TPM

My previous ranking was just pure personal preference.

Tpm worse made than the other two prequels? Curious

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TV’s Frink said:

Frank your Majesty said:

Did you just pick a random frame from the movie? I don’t see what’s supposed to be so bad about it. Especially compared to the plastic CGI look of Clones and Sith.

Squirrelface, amirite?

Is it any wonder why I lost my temper with him in the Stranger Things thread?

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No, although I’m still reasonably convinced he’s a she, Master.

Also, no, although I am avoiding that thread until I finish the new season.

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MalàStrana said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

TV’s Frink said:

Frank your Majesty said:

Did you just pick a random frame from the movie? I don’t see what’s supposed to be so bad about it. Especially compared to the plastic CGI look of Clones and Sith.

Squirrelface, amirite?

Is it any wonder why I lost my temper with him in the Stranger Things thread?

Poor fragile little thing…

this is your edited post, i wonder what your original was.

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There was an added s to thing. But since I wasn’t replying to both poor things (frthings & durathing) but one I removed the s.

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Possessed said:

mfastx said:

ChainsawAsh said:

I might be able to give you ROTS above ROTJ, but certainly not TFA.

TFA is certainly a better film on a technical level, what kills it for me is Starkiller Base and the story. Maybe it’ll grow on me with the release of TLJ. I go back and forth on ROTS vs ROTJ.

TV’s Frink said:

I understand people not liking TFA (especially if the rehash stuff bothers you) but I don’t see how anyone can claim any of the prequels are better-made movies.

If you enjoy them more, I guess I understand that…sort of.

I would certainly rank TFA higher if it were solely about how “well-made” the films are. That ranking in my view would go like this:

ESB
ANH
TFA
R1
ROTJ
ROTS
AOTC
TPM

My previous ranking was just pure personal preference.

Tpm worse made than the other two prequels? Curious

I’d say TPM is the best prequel. In its non-edited form, it’s at least mildly funny, and it doesn’t really have any connection to the rest of the movies, so it’s easy to ignore. It also didn’t look as CGI-to-hell as the other ones.

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MalàStrana said:

Weird way of thinking indeed (but hardly surprising).

Possessed said:

I’m curious to see some screenshots of episode vii looking worse than the prequels.

Many shots and locations look poor/cheap (such as both villages on Jakku, the Resistance Base, the entire ending helicopter shot), but this one is quite terrible:

(and it’s not only one frame, it’s an entire and very long shot which is probably one of the worst ever seen in a SW movie)

But TFA is nevertheless a SW movie and hence has a few good shots (and locations, even if they are basically rehashing things already seen in the other episodes) here and there, but not enough compared to the 7 other movies ('cause R1 at least got it right, sadly even if the story itself is good the characters are boring).

Sorry but my brain does not compute on what you are saying here is a bad frame and shot? How so?

.Val

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Yeah, that’s honestly one of my favorite shots in the film…

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It’s not shiny enough! The only cgi is the saber! Cheap!

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Trust me, you guys are looking for logic where none exists.

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The color grading of TFA is a bit of an issue with me (purple skin tones, oversaturation in general) but then again I’ve become hyper-sensitized to that sort of thing in the past few years making me into some sort of freak mutant person.

On the other hand, I’m really liking the look of Ahch-To in TLJ.

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SilverWook said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Possessed said:

And about Luke not actually being a great pilot because he gets helped a couple times, agree you forgetting he and wedge are the only ones who even survive?

There’s a Y-wing flying away at the end too.

If only three Rebel pilots survived the DS battle, then who the heck are all these guys?

I presume they were keeping the majority of TIE fighters occupied elsewhere while designated squadrons made the trench runs, and flew off in a different direction once Luke made a successful torpedo shot.

Maybe the pilots at the end of A New Hope are brand new pilots that jumped ship from the Imperial Academy and they just finished their Rebel indoctrination. The awards ceremony at the end of the movie could’ve taken place a few days after the Battle of Yavin unless otherwise stated in the shooting script.