logo Sign In

General Star Wars Random Thoughts Thread — Page 356

Author
Time

I’m saying that I didn’t even realize it was a change in the first place because I played Rogue Squadron 20 years ago so I figured it had always been kosher. I never read these manuals.

Author
Time
 (Edited)

joefavs said:

I’m saying that I didn’t even realize it was a change in the first place because I played Rogue Squadron 20 years ago so I figured it had always been kosher. I never read these manuals.

Ah, the V-Wing - with Cluster missiles 😃

(or the 1968 Buick Electra - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOVX6KhEUcc)

A little patience goes a long way on this old-school Rebel base. If you are having issues finding what you are looking for, these will be of some help…

Welcome to the OriginalTrilogy.com | Introduce yourself in here | Useful info within : About : Help : Site Rules : Fan Project Rules : Announcements
How do I do this?’ on the OriginalTrilogy.com; some info & answers + FAQs - includes info on how to search for projects and threads on the OT•com

A Project Index for Star Wars Preservations (Harmy’s Despecialized & 4K77/80/83 etc) : A Project Index for Star Wars Fan Edits (adywan & Hal 9000 etc)

… and take your time to look around this site before posting - to get a feel for this place. Don’t just lazily make yet another thread asking for projects.

Author
Time

joefavs said:

I’m saying that I didn’t even realize it was a change in the first place because I played Rogue Squadron 20 years ago

Oh yeah… I forgot about that.

Also, Rebel Assault.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

Author
Time
 (Edited)

I mentioned the other day that I was listening to the full cast audiobooks of Philip Pullman’s His Dark Materials trilogy this week in order to refresh my memory before reading his new one, and that Garrick Hagon (Biggs in SW) directed the production and played a role in the first book. Well, I just finished book two, and who turned up in that one but Julian Glover (General Veers in ESB)! I wonder which Star Wars alumni will be in part three.

Author
Time
 (Edited)

joefavs said:

I mentioned the other day that I was listening to the full cast audiobooks of Philip Pullman’s His Dark Materials trilogy this week in order to refresh my memory before reading his new one, and that Garrick Hagon (Biggs in SW) directed the production and played a role in the first book. Well, I just finished book two, and who turned up in that one but Julian Glover (General Veers in ESB)! I wonder which Star Wars alumni will be in part three.

Well, apparently Philip Pullman, author of His Dark Materials, had scathing things to say about LOTR and Narnia. He called Narnia sexist, and racist among other things, and seem to trivialize both series simply because their authors were people of faith. My brother in law says such an opinion is also apparent in the His Dark Materials series itself, so nope. I’m not really interested in reading it anymore. I’m not keen on being lectured why faith is stupid.

He can be agnostic or atheist or whatever, but holding himself as superior for it annoys me.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

Author
Time

chyron8472 said:

Well, apparently Philip Pullman, author of His Dark Materials, had scathing things to say about LOTR and Narnia. He called Narnia sexist, and racist among other things, and seem to trivialize both series simply because their authors were people of faith. My brother in law says such an opinion is also apparent in the His Dark Materials series itself, so nope. I’m not really interested in reading it anymore. I’m not keen on being lectured why faith is stupid.

He can be agnostic or atheist or whatever, but holding himself as superior for it annoys me.

What does this have to do with Star Wars exactly?

Author
Time

doubleofive said:

fishmanlee said:

but he used it to cut into the AT-AT to put the bomb in it

To be fair, he cut open a door release, he didn’t slice open a hole in it.

To be honest he could have just used his lightabler to cut the supports on the legs of the walker…

Who is the more foolish, the fool, or the one who follows him?

Author
Time
 (Edited)

chyron8472 said:

Well, apparently Philip Pullman, author of His Dark Materials, had scathing things to say about LOTR and Narnia. He called Narnia sexist, and racist among other things, and seem to trivialize both series simply because their authors were people of faith. My brother in law says such an opinion is also apparent in the His Dark Materials series itself, so nope. I’m not really interested in reading it anymore. I’m not keen on being lectured why faith is stupid.

He can be agnostic or atheist or whatever, but holding himself as superior for it annoys me.

I happen to think that LOTR succeeds in part because it’s written by a person of faith, since there’s a sense that Tolkien has personal experience with idea of mythology as a source of heroism, beauty, and goodness. While there’s an allegorical aspect to some of his characters, they very much exist as complete characters without such interpretation. However I dislike Narnia’s straight up religious allegory, and I believe that Tolkien thought the same:

“I cordially dislike allegory in all its manifestations, and always have done so since I grew old and wary enough to detect its presence. I much prefer history – true or feigned– with its varied applicability to the thought and experience of readers. I think that many confuse applicability with allegory, but the one resides in the freedom of the reader, and the other in the purposed domination of the author.”

His Dark Materials sounds interesting, and I’ll probably read it sometime.

But back to Star Wars…

You probably don’t recognize me because of the red arm.
Episode 9 Rewrite, The Starlight Project (Released!) and ANH Technicolor Project (Released!)

Author
Time

DominicCobb said:

chyron8472 said:

Well, apparently Philip Pullman, author of His Dark Materials, had scathing things to say about LOTR and Narnia. He called Narnia sexist, and racist among other things, and seem to trivialize both series simply because their authors were people of faith. My brother in law says such an opinion is also apparent in the His Dark Materials series itself, so nope. I’m not really interested in reading it anymore. I’m not keen on being lectured why faith is stupid.

He can be agnostic or atheist or whatever, but holding himself as superior for it annoys me.

What does this have to do with Star Wars exactly?

It was in reference to the immediately preceding post.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

Author
Time
 (Edited)

I wish the rest of my family loved Star Wars as much as I apparently do. My parents used to like it back in the day, but they seem to almost immediately glaze over whenever I mention Star Wars anymore.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

Author
Time

Yes. I saw the previous post, but that one had to do with Star Wars.

Author
Time
 (Edited)

DominicCobb said:

Yes. I saw the previous post, but that one had to do with Star Wars.

Yes, albeit loosely. I opined about the included non-Star-Wars bit of it for all of one post. Such is the nature of conversation. It doesn’t always have to be strictly on topic all the time.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

Author
Time

I just finished reading From A Certain Point Of View (a collection of short stories from various characters in '77 Star Wars for those who don’t read novels) and there were several stories based in the cantina. Every single one has Han shooting Greedo and every time the scene plays out as it does in the original theatrical release.

Does it mean the special edition canon of Greedo shooting at Han is now officially changed or is it (more likely imo) just down to the fear of nerd rage that including that part might provoke?

Whatever the explanation they clearly had a discussion about how the event should be portrayed with all the writers. It’s interesting, as a book like this telling stories from varying povs was a golden opportunity to have either Greedo or Han shooting first with a wink to the reader.

It’s a good book though with a lot of fun (and bonkers) stories.

Author
Time

NeverarGreat said:

I feel I must turn in my Star Wars cred badge.

I just realized that Finn was named after Leia’s cell number.

Leia’s cell number was Finn?

Author
Time

The Dark Empire said:

Hello everyone.

There is a thing in the new Star Wars films that has changed compared to the original trilogy. I’ve already mentioned it somewhere in another topic, and I think I can talk about it again after watching the new trailer for episode 8.

In Episode 8, a ground attack of the Empire can be seen, like in Episode 5.
Even in the first pictures of Episode 7, I was enormously disturbed by the atmosphere flying TIE-Fighters and star-destroyers.

I have several technical manuals at home. So far, the TIE-Fighter has been a pure space ship, which has neither a suitable propulsion for the atmosphere, an ion drive only works in space, nor the repulsor lift required by this bad aerodynamic.

Furthermore, Star Destroyers of the Imperial class are not able to fly in atmosphere like a Venator for example. Thats why they are build in space. They only have ION-engines build for use in space. This was also apparent in Episode 5. There the Star Destroyers could not launch an Orbital Bombardment, since the Rebel Base had a shield. So ground troops had to be sent.

If the great Imperial class star destroyers were capable of atmospheric maneuvers, one would not need any ground troops. Likewise, in such an open terrain, heavy slow ground troops make little sense if thousands of cheap and fast-to-produce TIEs could attack from all directions. In Episode 5, no TIEs were sent to Hoth’s surface. With TIEs, the empire can instantly send an overpower into the battle. You would simply let some of the star destroyers circle a few kilometers above the enemy. From there, they could cover the whole area with laser fires and TIEs.

No body groups would be needed.

In the old triology, the imperial military was militarily logically structured.
Now it feels illogical. I’m keeping the TIE-Fighter out of the air.

Rogue One was more logical in this regard, because the TIE striker used there is
"specialized for in-atmosphere missions, the atmospheric fighter is identifiable by its horizontal high-speed wings and large central pod." And it has repulsorlifts.

That makes sense and shows that the TIE flying in atmosphere is wrong. Therefore i can not watch TIEs standing on there panels. I hate it because nothing that flies would be standing on this filligrane components.

I know that it is quite technically realistic what is going on in my mind and I know that it is only films, but the Technical Manuals do so if everything was real.

Whats your oppinion on this?

TIE’s seem to have had no difficulty operating in the atmosphere on Bespin.


The old making of ESB paperback mentioned an FX shot of Rebel troops on Hoth looking up and seeing a Star Destroyer in the sky, but this obviously didn’t make it into the finished film.

Forum Moderator

Where were you in '77?

Author
Time
 (Edited)

dahmage said:

NeverarGreat said:

I feel I must turn in my Star Wars cred badge.

I just realized that Finn was named after Leia’s cell number.

Leia’s cell number was Finn?

JEDIT: OH… her Death Star cellblock unit number in A New Hope. Not her cellphone number.

To be fair, Han says “2187” very fast in that scene.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

Author
Time

dahmage said:

NeverarGreat said:

I feel I must turn in my Star Wars cred badge.

I just realized that Finn was named after Leia’s cell number.

Leia’s cell number was Finn?

Thank you for the laugh.

Author
Time
 (Edited)

chyron8472 said:

DominicCobb said:

Yes. I saw the previous post, but that one had to do with Star Wars.

Yes, albeit loosely. I opined about the included non-Star-Wars bit of it for all of one post. Such is the nature of conversation. It doesn’t always have to be strictly on topic all the time.

Since this is my thread (despite Neverar’s failed attempt at an end-run) I have decided that posts have to be strictly on topic all the time, but this only applies to your posts.

Author
Time

doubleofive said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

It’s time for me to come clean with you guys…I’ve never seen the unaltered OT.

And yet you still argue that Hayden in ROTJ makes more sense than Shaw.

LOL

It’s not like I’ve never seen the footage. I don’t think I need to see it within the context of the whole movie to take a stance on it. To me, Shaw as Anakin is a plot hole.

Old good guys die, ghosts are old men. Old bad guy dies, ghost is young man. It makes more sense that he looks like someone you (and Luke!) saw 5 minutes before than someone you haven’t seen in 6 hours (during a marathon) and Luke has never seen in his life.

If he’s the same guy from 5 minutes ago, why does isn’t he bald and gray?

Author
Time

The Dark Empire said:

Furthermore, Star Destroyers of the Imperial class are not able to fly in atmosphere like a Venator for example. Thats why they are build in space. They only have ION-engines build for use in space. This was also apparent in Episode 5. There the Star Destroyers could not launch an Orbital Bombardment, since the Rebel Base had a shield. So ground troops had to be sent.

The shield would’ve stopped any starfighters.

Author
Time

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

DominicCobb said:

Yes. I saw the previous post, but that one had to do with Star Wars.

Yes, albeit loosely. I opined about the included non-Star-Wars bit of it for all of one post. Such is the nature of conversation. It doesn’t always have to be strictly on topic all the time.

Since this is my thread (despite Neverar’s failed attempt at an end-run) I have decided that posts have to be strictly on topic all the time, but this only applies to your posts.

“Manny” Both-Hanz died to bring us this information.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

Author
Time

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

DominicCobb said:

Yes. I saw the previous post, but that one had to do with Star Wars.

Yes, albeit loosely. I opined about the included non-Star-Wars bit of it for all of one post. Such is the nature of conversation. It doesn’t always have to be strictly on topic all the time.

Since this is my thread (despite Neverar’s failed attempt at an end-run)

I would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn’t for you meddling kids!

You probably don’t recognize me because of the red arm.
Episode 9 Rewrite, The Starlight Project (Released!) and ANH Technicolor Project (Released!)