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TV’s Frink said:

I think you’ve confused Muppets with puppets.

And a Star Wars puppet making an appearance on The Muppets doesn’t count!

So did Clerks. 😉

And when did Yoda do the Muppet Show?

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Where were you in '77?

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SilverWook said:

It’s a joke. Somebody never saw The Great Muppet Caper. 😛

I have seen it, but clearly it’s been too long. I shall have to remedy that. 😛

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SilverWook said:

TV’s Frink said:

I think you’ve confused Muppets with puppets.

And a Star Wars puppet making an appearance on The Muppets doesn’t count!

So did Clerks. 😉

And when did Yoda do the Muppet Show?

Beats me, I was kinda just assuming.

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TV’s Frink said:

SilverWook said:

TV’s Frink said:

I think you’ve confused Muppets with puppets.

And a Star Wars puppet making an appearance on The Muppets doesn’t count!

So did Clerks. 😉

And when did Yoda do the Muppet Show?

Beats me, I was kinda just assuming.

There was a Muppet Christmas special where Yoda shows up. Or so I’ve heard.

But we digress.

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TV’s Frink said:

Gotta love newbies who think they know everything…so see if you can figure this one out.

Jani-wan said:

“Now Lucasfilm does what Disney says. If Disney says reshoot half the movie, they do.
If Disney says we need X-trooper for no logical reason but to sell, than there will be X-trooper in the movie.”

Jani-wan said:

“All I said is the truth. Like it or not.”

Maybe you should try add something to the project, instead of mocking newbies, who might have more knowledge about the subject than you have.
But unfortunatelly I see your point.
Newbies no nothing, but you know everything because you’ve been here for years, and you are entitled to mocking, even if your reason is that you are wrong.
Really smart.
Don’t know why that Imperialscum user link is posted, and I couldn’t care less.
Please try to restrain yourself from answering my post with mocking, instead of smart arguments. Makes you look bad, and does not help the project.

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Didn’t Adywan say that he had something important to film for ROTJ:R in September? What exactly was that?

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DominicCobb said:

Jani-wan said:

darth_ender said:

Can we elect Jani-wan as the new emperor of the site? He’s always right…someone wise, who makes us all agree! I know he’d be welcomed with thunderous applause!

Im the bad guy, huh?
“Always right”, huh?
Feel free to prove me wrong on anything I said. No one stops you. On the contrary. I would even welcome that, since these arguments are what make projects benefit the most. These are the ones that clear things up, so when it comes to decisions, all the best information is available.
I don’t care if Im right or wrong. I only care about the product. Unlike you.

People who resort to irrelevant personal attacks without actually debating the content of an argument, are either unable to argue, because they are wrong, or not smart enough to argue, and unable to accept what they are.
Seems like you decided you are one of those people, instead of trying to help the project. Too bad.

Or maybe some of us don’t want to muck up ady’s thread with an off topic debate that we’ve already had a million times before?

I see. You don’t wanna do what you just did. I guess it is logical to you.
Instead of debating the content of any project related argument.
Could you just get back to the project, and add something to that, instead of this.

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jani-wan, can you work on your formatting and your attitude?

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.Mac. said:

Okay then, things apparently got a bit out of hand up there…

To bring this back on topic, I guess now is as good as any to throw in my 2 cents about the camo/white armor debate from earlier.

I was initially in favor of the idea with some kind of camouflage armor for (most of) the Imperials on the moon of Endor. This is the concept art that got me completely on board with it:
camo

For camo, I thought the above image displays it quite subtly. It’s not in your face with several, vibrant, earthy colors, but it’s enough to serve its purpose. It makes sense, after all, that they’d have something to help hide themselves in the forest. It also goes along with the Empire having multiple armor designs for designated roles/locations, including the shoretroopers (I know, I noticed there are some differing opinions about them, but I liked them just fine).

However, people here not wanting them to have camo armor have made several good points, and for sure I’d agree with most of those points I’ve read. In addition, I’d also add another con with having camo for Imperials: There must be a distinguishable difference between the Rebels (who already do have camo) from the Imperials, otherwise I can see it getting confusing in certain instances for the audience.

But, here’s an alternative idea I haven’t seen brought up here yet: what about introducing the shadow troopers?
shadow
These guys have armor like your standard stormtroopers, so no alterations to the armor is needed, except they are black (or I’ve sometimes seen very dark gray). Could be relatively easy, too, to adjust the hue of the originally white armor in an editor (for sure easier than adding camo frame-by-frame). Then for shooting extra scenes during the battle, most of the extra Imperial troopers could possibly already be wearing this type of armor; I’m sure there are many good ones out there created by fans.

I just love the idea of there being a visual difference from the standard stormtroopers and the Emperor’s “best troops” (assuming his dialogue is left as is, and not condensed to be "An entire legion* of troops awaits them). If Krennic has his death troopers, I believe the Emperor would have certainly hand-picked a selection of “best” soldiers to have custom armor too.

So with this idea for having shadow troopers, A) the black (or very dark gray) will hide them a lot better in a forest environment than white (which was the reason for suggesting camo to start with), B) keeps true with the Empire having primarily white/black armor (which goes along with those who made points against camo armor), and C) of course it would add that extra element of ‘badass’ during the battle.

With that in mind, I believe there should still be some regular white scout/stormtroopers on the moon. Could actually be very interesting to see ordinary stormtroopers being overshadowed (pun not intended) by the prowess and aggressiveness of the Emperor’s “shadow troopers”.

(*) This has been brought up before long ago, but should the Emperor say “legion”? Instead should it be just “garrison” perhaps? Legion sounds overly large, unless of course he was purposefully exaggerating to Luke in hopes of getting him riled up any way possible - If so, I’d buy that for a dollar. So I guess I could go either way about this.

I think Valheru_84 perfectly explained why no need for camotrooper.
Clearly Lucas and Disney concepts are different, and adding something that would not fit the Lucas concept would be wrong IMO.
(NOT ATTACKING DISNEY for people who can’t stand mentioning Disney, but it has a relevance in this, and must mention, since that is what causes the problem)
But Shadowtrooper is different. They would fit the Lucas concept, because they are one of the Imperial colours.
Probably a good idea to have some.
The question is where should they be, and how should they dye.

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Jani-wan said:

TV’s Frink said:

Gotta love newbies who think they know everything…so see if you can figure this one out.

Jani-wan said:

“Now Lucasfilm does what Disney says. If Disney says reshoot half the movie, they do.
If Disney says we need X-trooper for no logical reason but to sell, than there will be X-trooper in the movie.”

Jani-wan said:

“All I said is the truth. Like it or not.”

Maybe you should try add something to the project, instead of mocking newbies, who might have more knowledge about the subject than you have.
But unfortunatelly I see your point.
Newbies no nothing, but you know everything because you’ve been here for years, and you are entitled to mocking, even if your reason is that you are wrong.
Really smart.
Don’t know why that Imperialscum user link is posted, and I couldn’t care less.
Please try to restrain yourself from answering my post with mocking, instead of smart arguments. Makes you look bad, and does not help the project.

Do you mean smart arguments like “you’re wrong” and “I have cold hard facts”? Sorry but that attitude adds nothing to the project no matter how right you claim you are…especially when you (probably) aren’t even right in the first place.

Impscum is never wrong. That’s why you got the link, because you’re acting the same way.

But with that said, since I have to mock with every post I make…you spelled “know” wrong.

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dahmage said:

jani-wan, can you work on your formatting and your attitude?

My attitude is that I don’t like being attacked. No need to change that.
What needs to change is attacking people. Attacking newbies, just because they are new.
That should change.
Don’t see what’s the problem with my formatting. Could you elaborate?

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Jani-wan said:

dahmage said:

jani-wan, can you work on your formatting and your attitude?

My attitude is that I don’t like being attacked. No need to change that.
What needs to change is attacking people. Attacking newbies, just because they are new.

That’s not why you’re being attacked. You’re focusing on the fact that I called you a newbie but that was not the point.

If I could take it back I probably would since it seems to have obscured the point I was actually making.

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TV’s Frink said:

Jani-wan said:

TV’s Frink said:

Gotta love newbies who think they know everything…so see if you can figure this one out.

Jani-wan said:

“Now Lucasfilm does what Disney says. If Disney says reshoot half the movie, they do.
If Disney says we need X-trooper for no logical reason but to sell, than there will be X-trooper in the movie.”

Jani-wan said:

“All I said is the truth. Like it or not.”

Maybe you should try add something to the project, instead of mocking newbies, who might have more knowledge about the subject than you have.
But unfortunatelly I see your point.
Newbies no nothing, but you know everything because you’ve been here for years, and you are entitled to mocking, even if your reason is that you are wrong.
Really smart.
Don’t know why that Imperialscum user link is posted, and I couldn’t care less.
Please try to restrain yourself from answering my post with mocking, instead of smart arguments. Makes you look bad, and does not help the project.

Do you mean smart arguments like “you’re wrong” and “I have cold hard facts”? Sorry but that attitude adds nothing to the project no matter how right you claim you are…especially when you (probably) aren’t even right in the first place.

Impscum is never wrong. That’s why you got the link, because you’re acting the same way.

But with that said, since I have to mock with every post I make…you spelled “know” wrong.

And you can’t stop.
No mention where was I wrong, or why.
Nothing.
Just attacks.
And now the spelling attack too.
Can’t get lower than this.

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Jani-wan said:

No mention where was I wrong, or why.

I already said so in the post you originally quoted, but I so enraged you with my calling you a newbie that you ignored it.

And it’s not a spelling attack, it’s a teaching moment.

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Jani-wan said:

DominicCobb said:

Jani-wan said:

darth_ender said:

Can we elect Jani-wan as the new emperor of the site? He’s always right…someone wise, who makes us all agree! I know he’d be welcomed with thunderous applause!

Im the bad guy, huh?
“Always right”, huh?
Feel free to prove me wrong on anything I said. No one stops you. On the contrary. I would even welcome that, since these arguments are what make projects benefit the most. These are the ones that clear things up, so when it comes to decisions, all the best information is available.
I don’t care if Im right or wrong. I only care about the product. Unlike you.

People who resort to irrelevant personal attacks without actually debating the content of an argument, are either unable to argue, because they are wrong, or not smart enough to argue, and unable to accept what they are.
Seems like you decided you are one of those people, instead of trying to help the project. Too bad.

Or maybe some of us don’t want to muck up ady’s thread with an off topic debate that we’ve already had a million times before?

I see. You don’t wanna do what you just did. I guess it is logical to you.
Instead of debating the content of any project related argument.
Could you just get back to the project, and add something to that, instead of this.

Reported.

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TV’s Frink said:

Jani-wan said:

No mention where was I wrong, or why.

I already said so in the post you originally quoted, but I so enraged you with my calling you a newbie that you ignored it.

And it’s not a spelling attack, it’s a teaching moment.

You don’t get to teach anything to anyone, so it is a spelling attack.
And now you lie. You only quoted what I said, and added nothing, but “newbie” mocking, and this Imperialscum link.

TV’s Frink said:

Gotta love newbies who think they know everything…so see if you can figure this one out.

Jani-wan said:

“Now Lucasfilm does what Disney says. If Disney says reshoot half the movie, they do.
If Disney says we need X-trooper for no logical reason but to sell, than there will be X-trooper in the movie.”

Jani-wan said:

“All I said is the truth. Like it or not.”

Nothing points out what is wrong and why, with detailed explanation, that can be proved, and not something you just make up.

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Wow, all this time I thought this was a George Lucas movie, I guess it was actually a Disney movie all along.

Thanks for the facts!

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Knock this bickering off.

The next poster to make a snipe or snarky comment will likely get a couple of days off.

A little patience goes a long way on this old-school Rebel base. If you are having issues finding what you are looking for, these will be of some help…

Welcome to the OriginalTrilogy.com | Introduce yourself in here | Useful info within : About : Help : Site Rules : Fan Project Rules : Announcements
How do I do this?’ on the OriginalTrilogy.com; some info & answers + FAQs - includes info on how to search for projects and threads on the OT•com

A Project Index for Star Wars Preservations (Harmy’s Despecialized & 4K77/80/83 etc) : A Project Index for Star Wars Fan Edits (adywan & Hal 9000 etc)

… and take your time to look around this site before posting - to get a feel for this place. Don’t just lazily make yet another thread asking for projects.

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Here’s the post, simply for transparency. Hopefully this follow-up will make the point clear. If it’s still not clear, then I apologize but it’s the best I can do. There was no lie.

Here’s the post that caused this.
http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1114520

Here’s where it was pulled from…

(Original post here:
http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1113808)

Jani-wan said:

“Now Lucasfilm does what Disney says. If Disney says reshoot half the movie, they do.
If Disney says we need X-trooper for no logical reason but to sell, than there will be X-trooper in the movie.”

(Original post here:
http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1113870)

Jani-wan said:

“All I said is the truth. Like it or not.”

JEDIT: Sorry jason, posted before I saw your post. Last I’ll say on the subject.

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ChainsawAsh said:

DominicCobb said:

doubleofive said:

doubleofive said:

Thanks to him and ImageShack, the mockups are mostly gone, but the list is just private if I had the momentum to clean it up.

Now hosting all the images on the Wordpress, we’re back up.

https://doubleofive.wordpress.com/rotj-fanedit-wishlist/

I remember reading this sometime ago. Some really solid ideas in there (though not all necessarily feasible).

Honestly the thing I probably want fixed most is the focus on the stars in the throne room sequence.

Distracts me every time.

Oh god yes this. How could I have forgotten about this?

The Surface of the Death Star II should be visible from the Window… Just saying it’s an error or a missing horizon. Perhaps not at this angle but at some angles it’s missing.

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DominicCobb said:

Wow, all this time I thought this was a George Lucas movie, I guess it was actually a Disney movie all along.

Thanks for the facts!

PT doesn’t count in this debate 😉

If you want to discuss this particular reference though…it was before the dark times, before the empire.

.Val