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#1075681
Topic
Star Wars 40th Reunion
Time

suspiciouscoffee said:

SilverWook said:

rodneyfaile said:

Hope there is a live stream and plenty of Original Unaltered Trilogy talk.

I wonder if they will show the movie?

If George is coming, I doubt it would be unaltered. I can imagine them playing an SE, and loudly voicing their disapproval at the many of the changes, all with George in the room with them to hear their hatred for his destruction of their work. Maybe then something would finally click in his head.

I doubt many would do that. I would assume that for most of them, it was just a job.

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#1074985
Topic
George Lucas
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DominicCobb said:

I do think “saved in the editing room” is a bit of a misnomer for Star Wars. That would imply the film was a massive turd to begin with. Most movies start the editing process in a mess (rough 4 hour or so assemblies and such). The things that made Star Wars pop during post-production (trim editing, music, vfx, sfx) are all things that are essential in any film production. Was the editing on Star Wars more extensive than on most films? Sure, considering Lucas was so displeased with Jympson’s cut of the film that he took him off it entirely, but late in the game so he had to replace him with 4 different editors working simultaneously (including himself). But what they ultimately came up with was simply what the film needed to be. “Saved” implies they turned into something completely different, which wasn’t really the case.

Point being, I think “came together in the editing room” is probably the better way to put it than “saved.” And of course, in regards to the thread topic, this was all overseen by Lucas so I don’t think the credit can be taken away there. As with the other elements of the film’s production, the key to the success wasn’t just him or just other people, it was the collaboration.

This.

I would say that “came together in the editing room” applies for just about any film.

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#1074344
Topic
4K restoration on Star Wars
Time

JawsTDS said:

Possessed said:

imperialscum said:

I find the whole Academy Award thing completely useless. Who cares about something irrelevant as Academy Awards. The only important thing is the current and future audience, for which these films should be preserved.

If you had won one and then had the reason you won it for erased you might feel differently.

Disney / Fox won’t care though. A lot of what I have read here is based off of emotion and nostalgia, not reason and fact. The distributor does not care about how you feel AT ALL. How do I know this? I am a home video distributor, albeit a small cult one. When I restore a film, I do it out of personal love, not because fan encouragement, though it can be a factor.

On a corporate level, you will seldom find this. They restore films because there is a market. While there IS a market for the ORIGINAL Original Trilogy, it’s not a big one. This may not seem to be the case, but I firmly believe it’s true. The Blu-rays still sold heaps, and they were some of the worst transfers to ever hit the medium (namely TPM and ESB). They are certainly not losing money by releasing the Special Editions, are they?

They could potentially lose money by releasing the originals though (unless paired with the SEs), and that’s probably what has kept them from doing so lately – not because of Lucas. They hear the fans, but it’s not their priority as it’s not a big money-maker right now. Additionally, it’s a lot of time and money to be put towards “unfinished” films. I hate to say it, but it seems to be the case.

My two cents.

Exactly. People here tend to be unrealistic when they estimate OOT market. Like you said, why would they put any effort when they can just re-release SE and get the same (or even better) effect. Even people around here are still buying every SE they release.

And like I said many times, when you are making billions with something, you do not care about something that might make a few millions.

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#1074336
Topic
4K restoration on Star Wars
Time

Z6PO said:

What about the separation masters, or the technicolor prints ?

Well better than regular film but his expectation of “100% unaltered” is still impossible.

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#1074201
Topic
4K restoration on Star Wars
Time

Possessed said:

imperialscum said:

I find the whole Academy Award thing completely useless. Who cares about something irrelevant as Academy Awards. The only important thing is the current and future audience, for which these films should be preserved.

If you had won one and then had the reason you won it for erased you might feel differently.

First, in general I think Academy Awards are irrelevant crap.

Second, I feel that the audience is far more important than the creators. If someone winning some worthless award was the main reason to release the originals, I would not care one bit. But since it comes to preserving the art for current and future generations, it is a completely different story.

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#1074039
Topic
4K restoration on Star Wars
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Ronster said:

“Today is the 40th Anniversary of Star Wars something unforgettable we remember” (next Paragrapgh)

If you remove the rest of first paragraph, it just makes it ambiguous and unclear. It would be another stupid blunder like the last time that reporter asked Kennedy. That kind of ambiguous crap is perfect for LFL because it makes it really easy for them to dodge it.

To be honest, I would prefer something really short, clear and direct like: “What is LFL current position on unaltered theatrical version of Original Trilogy (77, 80, 83)? Are there any plans for releasing it in HD?”. Maybe keeping the first paragraph just for introduction.

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#1073702
Topic
4K restoration on Star Wars
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Amano said:

But the people who we are addressing were alive back then. Those should be the focus of the letter.

Like I said, that would make it look like you are doing it for a specific group of people who will eventually be gone. They might even say: “Why would we even bother doing it for a few old-timers?”. The focus should be on preservation for everyone now and future generations.

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#1073697
Topic
4K restoration on Star Wars
Time

I think focusing on nostalgia, especially nostalgia of people who actually saw it in 77/80/83, is a bit off. They might think “ah it is just a few old people”. There are many of us here who were not alive in 77/80/83, or even saw SE first, and we still want OOT.

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#1073545
Topic
4K restoration on Star Wars
Time

Mocata said:

stop getting all worked up until they actually provide real news.

The main point is that they should provide the news, whatever it might be. They have not even provided the very basic thing, such as what is the company’s policy/stance regarding theatrical versions. It is completely normal that people are getting “worked up” because of that. You cannot expect people to just wait like some losers.

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#1073087
Topic
The Worst Star Wars Characters
Time

Ratio Tile said:

That’s a tough call. I’m tempted to say TPM Anakin but then I think about how Christensen is an older actor and should have done a better job. I mean, whose fault is it that Little Annie was such a lame character? Certainly not the kid, he was like nine years old or something …then again, can Christensen even be blamed? He’s not an inherently bad actor (I don’t think, I’m not sure) so blame would fall on the writers, directors and whoever cast him for that particular role.

The character was written and directed to be a whiny unlikeable jerk. If actor delivers such character, that means he did a good job.

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#1071990
Topic
The Force Awakens: Official Review Thread - ** SPOILERS **
Time

Disco_Lobot said:

You know what the funniest thing about people who hate TFA is? They are almost all either OT purists who hate the PT OR huge PT fans that are pissed off people have been bashing the PT forever and are trying to get revenge for being trolled in the Internet.

If you add “people with common sense who simply dislike shitty films”, you basically get everyone who does not like TFA. Well maybe they already overlap with “OT purists who hate the PT” part.

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#1071945
Topic
Explain Your Username / Avatar / Title / Signature
Time

Darth Id said:

TV’s Frink said:

Handman said:

Title: I don’t think these exist anymore.

They don’t. I believe they were site-assigned in the early days. By the time I joined you could pick your own, and I used to have lots of fun making up silly ones. I miss that function.

Don’t worry buddy.
You’ll always be the Grand Douche of Off Topics to me…

Good one. 😃

It brings back memories of just how much more annoying and childish he used to be.

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#1071816
Topic
The Force Awakens: Official Review Thread - ** SPOILERS **
Time

Tantive3+1 said:

imperialscum said:

rodneyfaile said:

I guess the answer is that Rey must have more midichlorians.

No, the answer is: TFA is shit.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw0IR6fJlV0

Great video. At 2:33, he partially confirms what I have been saying so far. Even though Luke was supposed to be a central part of the story and plot objective, the film goes on about completely unrelated crap. Instead of Luke’s disappearance driving the plot through gradually uncovering mastery behind his past decisions and actions, the film is a random collection of rehashed elements that does nothing for the plot.

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#1071755
Topic
General Star Wars Random Thoughts Thread
Time

Alderaan said:

Those “rules” are what makes a movie good though. They aren’t arbitrary.

Rules? Don’t be silly. This is art, not your mom’s house.

Alderaan said:

What screenwriting rules does ESB break?

None because there are no rules. As long as things make sense and are relevant to the plot, they are fine. TFA sucks because 2/3 of the things are not relevant to the plot.

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