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Ikon (by Graham Masterson)

An enjoyable edge-of-the-seat thriller executed in explosive fashion. Based around a secret Russian take-over of America, Ikon poses some devastating political problems, particularly the assassination, resignation and disgrace of some of her presidents - with the implication that they had known about the secret all along…

 

I’ve read it before - but something about the events of today draw me back to it…

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The novelization of Alien Covenant fixes damn near every problem I have with the film and gives me hope that most of these fixes were in deleted scenes.

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STAR TREK: THE WOUNDED SKY – DIANE DUANE

PROS

  • The theistic/philosophical themes are rather interesting.
  • Ms. Duane’s original alien species continue to be wonderfully alien.

CONS

  • The story gets hokey towards the end.
  • Ms. Duane’s insistence on collectively referring to all the sapient species that inhabit the ST Universe as “humanities” is ever irksome.
  • It makes the TNG episode “Where No One Has Gone Before” – which is loosely based on this novel – look like pablum in comparison.

8/10


ODD THOMAS – DEAN KOONTZ

PROS

  • It’s just as fun and witty as the underrated film adaptation.

CONS

  • Minus the inclusion of minor characters/scenes which were omitted in the film adaptation, the book’s story is identical to the film’s. There weren’t enough differences to provide a differing experience.

8/10


BURNT OFFERINGS – ROBERT MARASCO

To anyone who’s seen the film with Karen Black but never read the novel, do it. It’s worth the read.

9/10


GATHERING BLUE – LOIS LOWRY

8/10


STAR TREK: VULCAN’S GLORY – D. C. FONTANA

8/10

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moviefreakedmind said:

Warbler said:

I still in the middle of reading the Bible. I am simultaneously reading it in the KJV and NIV84. I have read Genesis, Job, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, Joshua, Judges, Ruth, 1 Samuel, and 2 Samuel. I an currently reading Psalms. I am at Psalms 106 in the KJV and Psalms 101 in the NIV84.

What kind of order is that? Not that the Bible is chronological, but Joshua through 2 Kings is. NIV is one of the worst translations in my opinion by the way.

I am following a pamphlet. It has the reader going to Psalms after 2 Samuel and then back to 1 Kings. I think it does this because traditionally Psalms is thought to have been written by King David(written by God using King David) and David dies at the beginning of 1 Kings. So, I guess the thinking is that if David wrote the Psalms, he probably finished before the beginning of the events of 1 Kings. The Pamphlet does the same sort of thing with Proverbs. It has the reader going to Proverbs, after the first 4 chapters of 1 kings. But I will agree, the pamphlet does jump around bit.

Why do you think NIV84 is one of the worst translations. As to why I am using it in this reading, that is because the NIV84 is the version my church happens to use as our pew Bible. When I was a kid, our church used to use the KJV. But sometime in the late 80s, we switched to the NIV84.

I want to make clear that I am not using the updated 2011 NIV. When I say NIV84, I mean I am using the version that came out in 1984.

I guess I will now update where I am in reading through the Bible:

I have read Genesis, Job, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, Joshua, Judges, Ruth, 1 Samuel, and 2 Samuel, Psalms, 1 kings 1-4, Proverbs, 1 Kings 5-end, 2 Kings 1-14:20, Joel, 2 Kings 14:21-25, Jonah(KJV). I am about to start reading Jonah in the NIV84.

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I’m guessing that I was referring to the 2011 revision of the NIV when I typed that. That order makes a little more sense now. Aren’t at least 70 or so of the Psalms specifically attributed to David? I know two are Solomon’s.

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moviefreakedmind said:

I’m guessing that I was referring to the 2011 revision of the NIV when I typed that.

no worries. Yeah, the 2011 NIV has received a lot of criticism. Many think it has been politically corrected.

That order makes a little more sense now. Aren’t at least 70 or so of the Psalms specifically attributed to David? I know two are Solomon’s.

possibly. Just to be clear I am not saying the pamphlet I am using is necessarily the best or most correct order of reading the Bible. I’ve just this pamphlet for a while and just wanted to read the Bible in the order it suggested. Maybe at some point I will read the Bible again using a different order.

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Lord Haseo said:

The novelization of Alien Covenant fixes damn near every problem I have with the film and gives me hope that most of these fixes were in deleted scenes.

I’m going to say they’re not and you have Alan Dean Foster to thank. He has a habit of trying to fix things when hired for novelizations. Saw him speak at a convention a year ago and he went on about what a huge pain it was trying to figure out a way to make Starkiller Base make any sense as depicted in the film. He did a ton of research and consulted with astrophysicists and was very pleased when LFL kept all his work in the final book and made it canon.

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suspiciouscoffee said:

Someday I’ll try to read through the entire Bible. Someday…

I have decades ago but I honestly couldn’t tell you which version. Great entirely fictional anthology series.

Half-assedly reading Harry Potter (All-in-one), METRO 2033, THE WITCHER: The Last Wish, and a random H.P. Lovecraft. Was reading Thinner but I lost the bookmark.

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RayRogers said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

Someday I’ll try to read through the entire Bible. Someday…

I have decades ago but I honestly couldn’t tell you which version. Great entirely fictional anthology series.

I see you’re continuing to integrate into the community in a wholly benign, non-confrontational manner. Keep up the effort; you’ll make many friends yet.

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Warbler said:

moviefreakedmind said:

I’m guessing that I was referring to the 2011 revision of the NIV when I typed that.

no worries. Yeah, the 2011 NIV has received a lot of criticism. Many think it has been politically corrected.

Ancient mythology is some of the least politically correct writings in human history. I don’t see why people even try; they should just take it as it is.

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suspiciouscoffee said:

RayRogers said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

Someday I’ll try to read through the entire Bible. Someday…

I have decades ago but I honestly couldn’t tell you which version. Great entirely fictional anthology series.

I wouldn’t go that far. Except it does belong in the Religion section.

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Warbler said:

moviefreakedmind said:

I’m guessing that I was referring to the 2011 revision of the NIV when I typed that.

no worries. Yeah, the 2011 NIV has received a lot of criticism. Many think it has been politically corrected.

Ancient mythology is some of the least politically correct writings in human history. I don’t see why people even try; they should just take it as it is.

Needs to be a more direct translation, IMO. Certain versions leave out more stuff than others.

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The King James is the only one that takes an artful and poetic approach to translating it, which is all I care about when reading it. Scholars probably want it more direct, but if they’re true scholars they’d be studying the original versions in the original languages.

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Can’t put it down!

“First feel fear, then get angry. Then go with your life into the fight.” - Bill Mollison

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Leisurely working my way through . . .

Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn might be my favorite high fantasy series of all time, and it’s delightful and very moving to go back to that world and check in on those characters decades later. I’m deliberately taking my time with this one and savoring it.

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Can we please cut down on the Bible-bashing? I understand many of you don’t believe, but seriously.

I’ve been listening to plenty of unabridged audiobooks lately. I’m currently re-listening to the books in the Ender’s Game universe)–and am currently on book 2 of the Shadow series, Shadow of the Hegemon.

Before that, I was listening to Expeditionary Force, books 1 and 2.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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I assure you, I was not Bible bashing.

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moviefreakedmind said:

The King James is the only one that takes an artful and poetic approach to translating it, which is all I care about when reading it. Scholars probably want it more direct, but if they’re true scholars they’d be studying the original versions in the original languages.

I think many scholars do just that.

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Also the Bible conversation happened over fifteen days ago, which I’m pretty sure means ‘no longer relevant’.

Anyway, I read The Great Gatsby again, and I appreciated it more this time.

I also tried reading Jurassic park before that but didn’t make it past 75 pages before I simply lost interest. Michael Crichton wrote that book as an impossibly boring slog. When something is actually happening and meaningful it’s super interesting and well written, and I’m excited for what’s going to happen next, but then that’s all bogged down by three pages of unnecessary technical explanations for things I don’t care about. It’s like he can’t just get to the point. It took all the fun out of what was otherwise an exremely fun read. I might pick it up again sometime and try to finish it, but I can’t see myself spending any time on it soon.

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chyron8472 said:

Can we please cut down on the Bible-bashing? I understand many of you don’t believe, but seriously.

I’ve been listening to plenty of unabridged audiobooks lately. I’m currently re-listening to the books in the Ender’s Game universe)–and am currently on book 2 of the Shadow series, Shadow of the Hegemon.

Before that, I was listening to Expeditionary Force, books 1 and 2.

I’ve read enders game and speaker for the dead and I loved them. I started to read xenocide a long time ago but, while the story was fascinating, reading it gave me a headache so I gave up on it. Perhaps I should try it again now that I’m an adult. I’ve re-read the first two as an adult and adored them, especially speaker, but I was daunted because of my previous encounter with xenocide. But I was like a freshmen in high school so I should give it another go.

From what little outline I’ve read I won’t be reading the shadow series because I’m not insterested in having ender retconned into being a pawn.

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Possessed said:

chyron8472 said:

Can we please cut down on the Bible-bashing? I understand many of you don’t believe, but seriously.

I’ve been listening to plenty of unabridged audiobooks lately. I’m currently re-listening to the books in the Ender’s Game universe)–and am currently on book 2 of the Shadow series, Shadow of the Hegemon.

Before that, I was listening to Expeditionary Force, books 1 and 2.

I’ve read enders game and speaker for the dead and I loved them. I started to read xenocide a long time ago but, while the story was fascinating, reading it gave me a headache so I gave up on it. Perhaps I should try it again now that I’m an adult. I’ve re-read the first two as an adult and adored them, especially speaker, but I was daunted because of my previous encounter with xenocide. But I was like a freshmen in high school so I should give it another go.

Pretty much my exact experience (well, maybe I didn’t get a headache, but I didn’t finish). I too was a freshman in high school, and maybe I’ll give it another go sometime in the next few years.

Anyway, I’m finally starting Children of Dune, having bought it weeks ago.

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Possessed said:

chyron8472 said:

Can we please cut down on the Bible-bashing? I understand many of you don’t believe, but seriously.

I’ve been listening to plenty of unabridged audiobooks lately. I’m currently re-listening to the books in the Ender’s Game universe)–and am currently on book 2 of the Shadow series, Shadow of the Hegemon.

Before that, I was listening to Expeditionary Force, books 1 and 2.

I’ve read enders game and speaker for the dead and I loved them. I started to read xenocide a long time ago but, while the story was fascinating, reading it gave me a headache so I gave up on it. Perhaps I should try it again now that I’m an adult. I’ve re-read the first two as an adult and adored them, especially speaker, but I was daunted because of my previous encounter with xenocide. But I was like a freshmen in high school so I should give it another go.

From what little outline I’ve read I won’t be reading the shadow series because I’m not insterested in having ender retconned into being a pawn.

This! I think it was a huge mistake to make Bean smarter. I can read the series as an inferior alternate timeline of books, but Ender will always be the best of the best in my mind.